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I found odd that Rivers is hitting free agency instead of straight out retiring, (...)

He has a lot of kids to support Grin
LOL, maybe he wants to keep himself distracted so he does not add a few kids to his family. Tongue

You are right about him not being an upgrade to most of the NFL teams. The Chargers always strike me as a bit of a messy organization, so I would like to see what he could do elsewhere. But QB needy teams will just draft a new QB and the others are not really in need, because they have QB's of the caliber of Rivers already (like Broncos, Jags, Panthers).
Another possibility is that even if he does not find a starting job right away he could wait until there is a QB injury on a SB contender and then accept the job to try to save their season until their QB can come back.

Also it seems the negotiations between Dak Prescott and the Dallas Cowboys are going nowhere, he is simply asking too much money and while he has the right to ask whatever he wants at the same time the Dallas Cowboys can refuse if they think the price is not right, this most likely means the franchise tag will be applied to him and now there are some crazy rumours stating that Brady may be headed to the Cowboys, I do not believe it but if it were to happen it will be one of the biggest media storms we have ever seen.

I don't think Prescott is that good tbh. He is a product from that very good O-Line and Zeke, but his throwing abilities I don't know. So I wouldn't pay him elite money.

I would love Brady going to the Cowboys and think this is a team that fits his needs (good O-Line, good running game, good WR's) and playing style nowadays. But I would only love it for all the circus that comes with it Cheesy
It is fun to speculate with it but realistically it does not seem likely, if Dallas tried to get Brady then they will need to franchise tag Dak and then trade him to another team, but which team that is desperate for a QB will want to make Dak the highest paid player for the time being when they can take their chances with a rookie or one of the many veteran QBs available during this free agency?

I would hate to see Brady going to the Cowboys.  I've always liked Brady and have been rooting for him throughout his career.  The conflict of rooting for one of my favorite players while rooting against the team I love to hate might be too much.
As a NE fan I would like for Brady to stay but if he has to go there are two teams I would absolutely hate he goes to play for and those are Dallas and Miami, I would rather see Brady in an Indianapolis uniform than to see him with those two teams, fortunately it does not seem likely he will go to those teams.

Not that any of this really matters.  All the speculation about free agency in the middle of February is just that; speculation.  There might be three highly experienced veteran quarterbacks hitting free agency this year; Brady, Rivers, and Brees.
I cannot find a link but it seems Brees is only considering playing another year for NO or retirement and it does not seems likely he will hit free agency.
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The Cowgirls' biggest issue isn't with their quarterback, or anything related to their offense.

Yep, thats why I wouldn't break the bank for someone like Prescott. "Any" QB can do well behind that line and all the weapons at hand. Imagine what the Cowboys offense could do with someone like Brees, Rodgers or Mahomes.

A dominant O-Line does so much to your offense. It gives your QB time when going through the air, it gives the WR time to get free and finish their routes, it opens up space for your RB. When you have a bad O-Line, this all collapses - it's a domino effect. I know what I am talking about, since the Giants had an awful O-Line for years and you can have the best QB, the best WR, the best RB, but without a good O-Line this means nothing.

Defensively they always did only what is necessary in the last years, trying to get away with just injecting average talent (and some criminals). They just spend 25.84% of their cap on defense.
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I found odd that Rivers is hitting free agency instead of straight out retiring, (...)
He has a lot of kids to support Grin

Lol, you aren't kidding.  (See what I did there?)  I had no idea he had so many kids, nine as of last March!  I thought I was asking for it with four of my own.  He'll be raising teenagers for over 20 years, poor guy!  Good looking family, though.  I wish him luck.




But on a more serious note, I often wondered why athletes torture themselves by playing up to their late 30's or even into their 40's and the answer is simple: They love what they are doing. And iirc Rivers never had any serious injuries, so he should still feel good playing football. Earning very good money with a thing you love is not easy to give up - even when you have more than you could ever spent probably. Rivers always gave me the feeling of really enjoying being on the field, so if he is still comfortable competing, why not.

You are right about him not being an upgrade to most of the NFL teams. The Chargers always strike me as a bit of a messy organization, so I would like to see what he could do elsewhere. But QB needy teams will just draft a new QB and the others are not really in need, because they have QB's of the caliber of Rivers already (like Broncos, Jags, Panthers).

I've always liked Phillip Rivers, I think he's a classy guy, and probably one of the smartest QBs to ever play the game.  He's always struck me as a Payton Manning type of quarterback, almost like a coach who suits up.  I agree that the Chargers seem like dysfunctional organisation, and have been so for decades now.  With Rivers at the helm it seems like they would have been perennial contenders if they had their shit together.


Also it seems the negotiations between Dak Prescott and the Dallas Cowboys are going nowhere, he is simply asking too much money and while he has the right to ask whatever he wants at the same time the Dallas Cowboys can refuse if they think the price is not right, this most likely means the franchise tag will be applied to him and now there are some crazy rumours stating that Brady may be headed to the Cowboys, I do not believe it but if it were to happen it will be one of the biggest media storms we have ever seen.
I don't think Prescott is that good tbh. He is a product from that very good O-Line and Zeke, but his throwing abilities I don't know. So I wouldn't pay him elite money.

I would love Brady going to the Cowboys and think this is a team that fits his needs (good O-Line, good running game, good WR's) and playing style nowadays. But I would only love it for all the circus that comes with it Cheesy

The Cowgirls' biggest issue isn't with their quarterback, or anything related to their offense.  They need to beef up their defense, have Jerry Jones step back from day to day operations, and give more authority to their coaches.  I've said it before, but I'll say it again; I think the Cowboys' biggest problem is the owner having more say than the coaching staff, and the players are well aware of this dichotomy.

I would hate to see Brady going to the Cowboys.  I've always liked Brady and have been rooting for him throughout his career.  The conflict of rooting for one of my favorite players while rooting against the team I love to hate might be too much.

Not that any of this really matters.  All the speculation about free agency in the middle of February is just that; speculation.  There might be three highly experienced veteran quarterbacks hitting free agency this year; Brady, Rivers, and Brees.  The players will be looking for top dollar, while teams are looking at them as a possible bargain.  In most of these situations there can be a big gap between what the players expect and what the teams are willing to pay.  After testing the market we might see a couple of these guys decide it's time to retire, or take a pay-cut and stay with their current team.
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I found odd that Rivers is hitting free agency instead of straight out retiring, (...)

He has a lot of kids to support Grin

But on a more serious note, I often wondered why athletes torture themselves by playing up to their late 30's or even into their 40's and the answer is simple: They love what they are doing. And iirc Rivers never had any serious injuries, so he should still feel good playing football. Earning very good money with a thing you love is not easy to give up - even when you have more than you could ever spent probably. Rivers always gave me the feeling of really enjoying being on the field, so if he is still comfortable competing, why not.

You are right about him not being an upgrade to most of the NFL teams. The Chargers always strike me as a bit of a messy organization, so I would like to see what he could do elsewhere. But QB needy teams will just draft a new QB and the others are not really in need, because they have QB's of the caliber of Rivers already (like Broncos, Jags, Panthers).

Also it seems the negotiations between Dak Prescott and the Dallas Cowboys are going nowhere, he is simply asking too much money and while he has the right to ask whatever he wants at the same time the Dallas Cowboys can refuse if they think the price is not right, this most likely means the franchise tag will be applied to him and now there are some crazy rumours stating that Brady may be headed to the Cowboys, I do not believe it but if it were to happen it will be one of the biggest media storms we have ever seen.

I don't think Prescott is that good tbh. He is a product from that very good O-Line and Zeke, but his throwing abilities I don't know. So I wouldn't pay him elite money.

I would love Brady going to the Cowboys and think this is a team that fits his needs (good O-Line, good running game, good WR's) and playing style nowadays. But I would only love it for all the circus that comes with it Cheesy
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Philip Rivers will not return to the Chargers and will be a free agent. I immediately thought about Brady going back to California, but they are no contenders in my book, so can't imagine that. According to this article, Rivers moved his family to Florida recently and though the article mentions Tampa maybe being interested in him, I would think it's more likely he will land at the Jaguars somehow.
I found odd that Rivers is hitting free agency instead of straight out retiring, I do not really see a lot of teams being interested in him when this season his numbers took an important hit and he does not have a reputation of being a winner, would he accept a job as a backup? Because it will be difficult for him to get a starting job.

Also it seems the negotiations between Dak Prescott and the Dallas Cowboys are going nowhere, he is simply asking too much money and while he has the right to ask whatever he wants at the same time the Dallas Cowboys can refuse if they think the price is not right, this most likely means the franchise tag will be applied to him and now there are some crazy rumours stating that Brady may be headed to the Cowboys, I do not believe it but if it were to happen it will be one of the biggest media storms we have ever seen.
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I heard the xfl was back, I haven't caught a game yet, wasn't sure if it was actually worth it's salt or going to be around in a couple of years. I'll have to catch a game.

Pretty much interesting to expect for more good games for this team, and this brings more entertainment to American fans worldwide. This is very exciting, since it's been a long silence they're totally coming back for good and many opportunities to come for those who missed previously. I'll be hoping for greener pasture on their career wish them all the best.
With there only being 8 teams in total how are they setting up the schedule, I mean that seems pretty spare or will it be similar to baseball with multiple games with the same teams?

They have two divisions, Western and Eastern, each with four teams.  Each team in either division plays each of their divisional rivals twice; once away and once at home.  They also play each team in the other division once, for ten total games.  The two teams with the highest win percentage in each division face each other again for the one playoff game, then the two remaining teams play for the league championship.


 
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I heard the xfl was back, I haven't caught a game yet, wasn't sure if it was actually worth it's salt or going to be around in a couple of years. I'll have to catch a game.

Pretty much interesting to expect for more good games for this team, and this brings more entertainment to American fans worldwide. This is very exciting, since it's been a long silence they're totally coming back for good and many opportunities to come for those who missed previously. I'll be hoping for greener pasture on their career wish them all the best.
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Philip Rivers will not return to the Chargers and will be a free agent. I immediately thought about Brady going back to California, but they are no contenders in my book, so can't imagine that. According to this article, Rivers moved his family to Florida recently and though the article mentions Tampa maybe being interested in him, I would think it's more likely he will land at the Jaguars somehow.

It will add some spice to the draft too. Bengals will take Burrow at #1, then you have Redskins, Lions, Giants that are not really in need of a QB and Dolphins and Chargers sitting at 5/6, who should be very interested in Tagovailoa and will both maybe try to move up to get him.
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Thanks to Nutildah for hosting last season's NFL thread, that was a lot of fun.  I've decided to start this thread as a general discussion for anything relating to American Football.  Feel free to discuss anything related to the NFL, free agency, the draft, the new XFL league, college football, gambling, or whatever might be related to football.


I've had the XFL games on the TV while doing some work around the house, not paying close attention, but checking out the big plays.  It's actually not bad at all.  The players are mostly selected from those who barely didn't make it onto NFL teams' 53-man rosters.  Some were on NFL practice squads as well.  Many are definitely good athletes, and look like they could easily play in the NFL.

There are some different rules that make the games flow a bit faster, which means fewer commercials.  They also allow three options for the extra-points try following a touchdown which are pretty interesting.

Overall, I think this one of the better attempts I've seen to compete with the NFL.  Previous attempts to create a new pro-football league have largely failed because the quality of football wasn't there.  If the new XFL teams can keep some decent players on their rosters, I think they might survive longer than one season, lol.



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