Topic: The ban was a mistake. I need admin’s attention (Read 3606 times)

hilariousandco, Thank you for your decision.

Thank you for leaving your positive feedback. You have made your contribution into my unban.

It's time to close this thread.

Good to see mods acting in a positive and ethical ways. Keep it up!

And congratulations to Tvplus006 for the unban, stay safe here after.

I asked theymos for the reports against you and it seems like it was just that copy and paste that got you banned. I unbanned the account.

Let's just agree to disagree, sure I can understand that it's hard work to expose 60+ scams, but I agree with hilariousandco when he says that it's just a clear case of plagiarism.
Besides, I'm sure I'll get a lot of flak for saying this, I do not actually hold the opinion that most scam busting is all that useful.

Hear me out, it's basically trying to empty the ocean with a thimble.
I think it's much more valuable to educate people to not fall for these scams in the first place, than it is to try and "bust" every individual scam.
Sure, you might prevent some people from losing their money, but most of those people who were already thinking of spending money on a questionable service, would probably just do it again when there's no-one around to stop them.

Now I do concede that it's a very good thing to point out the more elaborate scam attempts, especially when a fair bit of research is involved.
Just not when it's all painfully obvious. So, is OP a net positive contributor on Bitcointalk? For me, the scam busting doesn't automatically mean he is, but that's just my opinion.

One last thing that really baffles me, it takes more time to copy paste that message than to just quote it and add a couple of words yourself.
I mean someone who's been on this forum for so long as OP should really know better. I don't believe in "forgetting" to quote, copy/pasting is such a deliberate action in most cases that it's not hard to avoid doing.

That's the last I'll say about this case.

Thank! I hope that this story ends and i get unbanned.

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[BAN] Hero Member tvplus006 - 501 merits [all earned]
#freetvplus006

There's no evidence to suggest that. Sometimes you can tell when someone's just accidentally fucked up a quote. I PMd theymos to see if he has an archive of the reports against you.

I believe that is the mistake theymos was talking about:

Well it clearly is and you saying it cannot be considered plagiarism is just wrong. I don't even know if that was the post you were actually banned for but it's plagiarism regardless of what you and a couple of others may claim or think.

I have not even considered the post as plagiarism. It may be seen that I have tried to help one of the participants by incorrectly quoting one of bounty manager’s post, which was very big. I was inexperienced, as up to that point I have only been on forum for 2 month, that is why I did not know, that you could simply delete unnecessary information from the quoted text. You can follow the link to see where the fragment came from and indeed it is placed in the same bounty  topic.
It is not about payment since signatures from bounty posts are not included in the campaigns. It is clearly seen, that my aim was to help one to find an answer to the question.

They also write about it here:

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[BAN] Hero Member tvplus006 - 501 merits [all earned]
#freetvplus006

Where exactly is the refutation of this post below because it's pretty cut and dry plagiarism to me:



I'm happy to not issue another sig ban at all and just leave accounts banned forever if you think that would be more fair. Several factors are involved with issuing them but there's no set criteria and every mod may have different reasoning.

It looks like this site is applying a double standard. On the one hand, user was banned for several copied lines.
On the other hand, someone can be easily forgiven for a stolen article https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/the-stolen-article-5157468

You are totally wrong, there is actually a reason for Tvplus006 to deserve a second chance, as he is more net positive to the forum overall than other banned members.

You are just ignoring the good work old man!


Let them complain and if they are surely net positive to the forum, one deserves a second chance. That's the exact reason theymos give temp ban powers recently to the mods here if you don't know.

Yes, I wish a global moderator would comment on why tvplus006 has been overlooked for a temporary ban. I think he was definitely a net positive. Now I see many people that got the temp ban have had their temp ban expire and are posting now. tvplus006 have had several members requesting he get his ban removed. I hope a global moderator or administrator considers out pleas.

Interesting.

Then how all other accounts are getting unbanned? Looking at it from my perspective I see: account is banned because they c/p post and that maybe wasn't malicious attempt to blatant copy/paste someone's hm..."work"? for post count, maybe user really wanted to be helpful but instead putting things under quotation marks they just c/p post.

Maybe it is just me and I am defending scam busters (60+ scams exposed), well, I'll be damned if that is not millions dollars saved in investards pocket.

That is net positive. It is damn time consuming, I can tell you that from first hand. It is much easier to go to gambling section and spam 20 messages to say how you agree that LUCK IS NEEDED for fucking win!

Banning users who are exposing scams while keeping users who are discussing "If I gamble and I pick nose at the same time, will I win?" is wrong!

It would be OK to say why this user does not deserve a second chance!

Bravo! Did you create an account to write this? https://i.ibb.co/F0PzGd2/3453234.png

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[BAN] Hero Member tvplus006 - 501 merits [all earned]
#freetvplus006

Spam it`s not mistake 

To punish good users for good behaviour to prevent bad users from saying that they do the same? Well, most times moderator can see, which case is it in exact situation. If it is not clear, I prefer to give another chance to several intruders till they make an obvious mistake than to ban permanently even one good guy. Noone said any bad word about OP in this topic, so #freetvplus006.

Just my 2 cents:

I don't think you're going to get unbanned, since you've been asking for so long and multiple mods would have seen your topic a bunch of times by now.
Looking at it from a mod's perspective, I don't actually see a reason to unban you.

You've clearly just copy/pasted a reply. It probably wasn't done maliciously, but I reckon that if they made an exception for you, it would just give other plagiarists even more excuses.

Read more here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.51844566

   
[BAN] Hero Member tvplus006 - 501 merits [all earned]
#freetvplus006

Why do you think this can not be considered plagiarism ?

It was an exact copy/paste of the post of another user.
You didn't forget to quote it properly, you didn't express any opinion. You simply just copy/pasted it.

If you just wanted to help someone / answer questions, why not either just quote it or use your own words ?

I don't think this falls under the category of mistakes mentioned by theymos.


IMO this is very clearly plagiarism.. anyway.. i wish you good luck getting your account back.