Topic: The ban was a mistake. I need admin’s attention - page 3. (Read 3528 times)

Thug life!

And there was me thinking it was only noobs that don't read the thread and make moronic comments as a result.
I guess you learn something new everyday, thanks for educating everyone.

No. My account is still blocked.
I am almost always on the site in hope to see the message that my account has been unlocked.


No. I will not have enough strength  to go through this again.


Nice hashtag!

# freetvplus006

Makes Another Account

Did you manage to get your account back today then?
I see someone is online on your account at least #3809: https://web.archive.org/web/20190711210844/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2349237.msg29725462
I hope it's you and not a scammer!

I also doubt that a scammer would have that much influence, but it looks that way. 
As I said looks can be deceiving.

Usually there are 5, 10, 15, 20 even more copied posts.

Here there is one instance  which is gray and or subject to interpretation as to whether it was plagiarism.

Since intent is not clear that he was plagiarizing.

When you look at the over all quality of his posting and you look at the one in question it simply looks like he
was repeating rules to a question.

Thus the ban looks like it is more likely in retaliation for his scam work.

I think it is not true, but it does give that appearance.

If more bad posts exist it should be that they are shown.

I highly doubt that a scammer had any influence over mod's decision to ban him. Afair he was banned with many other accounts in early/mid May in a huge ban wave.

I've been thinking about hilariousandco's reply for "no handled reports in the queue" and what it means. In my experience with reporting plagiarism there are three possible scenarios/outcomes:

• 1. reported message - it gets deleted - account isn't banned
• 2. reported message - it gets deleted - account is banned
• 3. reported message - message is not deleted - account is banned

I don't pretend to know how SMF mod panel works but what if there was another msg reported, it was then deleted (hence no longer visible/in the queue)?

Idk i'm just thinking out loud, regardless of what happened he should be unbanned (time served), first batch of 60-days-temp-banned-accounts are getting "free" in a couple of days.

#freetvplus006 

I will give it a bump.

I also reviewed more of your scam-busting work and I gave you 4 more merits.


@  all staff and all admin.    This looks like shit.

It looks like he popped a heavy hitting scammer and that scammer influenced the ban.

Now we all know things can look one way and be something else so in no way am I saying that a scammer

forced the ban.  I am saying it looks that way.  So once again I ask is that one instance all there is against

him?

Thank you. I was so close to the “Hero Member” rank) Now, I can be the first forum user, who will get the rank, while being banned.


It seems like a mistake, which cannot be recognized now.

I believe theymos aware about this thread but unfortunately we had not got any response. OP deserve second chance but at least we have right to know the exact reason of ban. Even OP has been done mistake but if we compare with other user who have got second chances then OP have right for ask second chance. As we see lot of reputated user support this OP for second chance.

I will request to theymos reconsider that case.

I sent a pm just now asking for Theymos to look at this thread.

Great analogy, except that death does not come to everyone the same exact way, people die for different reasons and on different times, speaking of death , capital penalty is different for everyone, you could kill someone for self-defense or in a car accident and you won't be treated the same way as someone who shot a man sleeping in his bed while trying to rob his house, applying the same penalty on the 2 different scenarios mentioned above is plain "stupid".

The plagiarism ban thing here is the exact opposite of "logical" , a decent member announces a PUBLIC announcement and gets banned for it just the same way a useless shitposter would copy paste a common shitpost of " This is great project, when lambo?".



Since this has been going on for over a month, I think OP should do exactly what you mentioned, PMing theymos might help as well, I would like to believe that Theymos have not read/seen this thread and that is why nothing has been done yet.

Same here.

I read some of your work on scams. It is good. I gave your banned account some merits.


    When I see this kind of stuff happen I get depressed about Bitcointalk.
I would hope your ban is lifted with time served.

It's so pathetic for such valued member to get banned because of plagiarism. We all know the law that plagiarism is never allowed here but considering him might warrant other people to post or display such attitude relating to that since is copying and paste bounty

So op does 491 of 500 good scam busts.

He does a border line plagiarism since you have to have intent to truly do plagiarism and that single instance does not smack of intent to me.

I will put  webster's dictionary definition of plagiarism

 https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/plagiarism

"plagiarism noun
pla·​gia·​rism | \ ˈplā-jə-ˌri-zəm also -jē-ə-  \
Definition of plagiarism
1 : an act or instance of plagiarizing
2 : something plagiarized"

So  we need look at:

 https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/plagiarizing


"plagiarize verb
pla·​gia·​rize | \ ˈplā-jə-ˌrīz also -jē-ə-  \
plagiarized; plagiarizing
Definition of plagiarize
transitive verb
: to steal and pass off (the ideas or words of another) as one's own : use (another's production) without crediting the source
intransitive verb
: to commit literary theft : present as new and original an idea or product derived from an existing source"


I fail to see the one example provided at this moment meeting those definitions I carefully quoted above.


he gave an answer to a question.

If I ask does anyone know the 4th commandment?  and some one writes

 "Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy"  it is simply stating a fact.

  another example.

In what year did the mets lose to the yankees in the world series.?

"the mets lost in 2000"


A better one in the earth is flat thread  how many times are laws of physics repeated?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newton%27s_law_of_universal_gravitation

"Newton's law of universal gravitation"


'"Newton's law of universal gravitation states that every particle attracts every other particle in the universe with a force which is directly proportional to the product of their masses and inversely proportional to the square of the distance between their centers.[note 1] This is a general physical law derived from empirical observations by what Isaac Newton called inductive reasoning.[1] It is a part of classical mechanics and was formulated in Newton's work Philosophiæ Naturalis Principia Mathematica ("the Principia"), first published on 5 July 1687. When Newton presented Book 1 of the unpublished text in April 1686 to the Royal Society, Robert Hooke made a claim that Newton had obtained the inverse square law from him."


So if I say " that every particle attracts every other particle in the universe with a force which is directly proportional to the product of their masses and inversely proportional to the square of the distance between their centers"   in the earth is flat thread most people will know I paraphrased newton.

If I say that to my mom she will think damn my son is smart and not realize I ripped the idea off.

So in one case I am a sneaky guy in the other case I am arguing with peers about a known fact.

the op of this thread clearly was simply stating facts to help someone out.  At least I see it that way. Since he repeated those rules to help someone no more no less.

Unless you can prove the guy that asked the question  was an alt of the op  then  he is not so good.

Law of nature does apply though. For instance, death, regardless of how good, bad, interesting, useful a person is, there is no guarantee he will live to see another day before he goes to sleep. You know what I'm saying?

On to the topic, OP should send a message to Cyrus since they're running a team of active team recoveries and link them to this thread. Theymos isn't all that harsh on the accounts if they're quality contributors on the forum.

How often do we see quality members like tvplus006 ? I say very seldom, if he was banned for what SM quoted then it's certainly unfair, he was simply re-announcing something from the OP's posts, it is pretty clear that he was not passing it as his own work, SM or anybody else should report such posts, but it's the mod's job to take these things case by case and even if they make a "mistake" they should be able to correct it.


but even if we were to assume that rules are rules and he must quote everything, exceptions should be given to valuable members, there is no single law on earth that applies to everyone regardless of the circumstances, this is terrible to say the least.

Sadly we had not got answer why OP got ban, mercy is the second step. How many thread need to create for that answere? I am curious to know why everyone from admin and moderns avoiding this thread/question?

   I still don't have a clue why mercy has not been granted to tvplus006. I've seen other accounts get a signature ban or have their ban lifted in much less time. Any particular reason why this net positive member has to languish?