The Barry Silbert segwit2x agreement with >80% miner support. - page 11.

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Quote from: -ck on July 19, 2017, 04:29:06 AM

A few are holding out or have reverted while they get clarification on the latest problem with the fork as pointed out to them by gmaxwell here https://github.com/btc1/bitcoin/issues/85 . They're waiting to see how bad an issue it might be in the real world before deploying it (+/- again).

Is this why f2pool and bitfury still holding? Yesterday Bitfury was signaling bip 91, today they changed to segwit.

I'm tracking this through xbt.eu

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Clueless!

I mean let's just wrap this up before the next bit of drama (everyone groan and say 2mb hard fork together) .... (Bitcoin the hot mess bi-polar girlfriend you can't live without)

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Quote from: -ck on July 19, 2017, 04:29:06 AM

A few are holding out or have reverted while they get clarification on the latest problem with the fork as pointed out to them by gmaxwell here https://github.com/btc1/bitcoin/issues/85 . They're waiting to see how bad an issue it might be in the real world before deploying it (+/- again).

That's not a very probable "issue". It was very good that gmaxwell caught it but I don't think it will a serious cause for concern. There are manual methods the nodes can ensure that they communicate with each other. But I suppose it's the prudent thing to do.

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Ruu \o/

A few are holding out or have reverted while they get clarification on the latest problem with the fork as pointed out to them by gmaxwell here https://github.com/btc1/bitcoin/issues/85 . They're waiting to see how bad an issue it might be in the real world before deploying it (+/- again).

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Quote from: allinvain on July 19, 2017, 04:08:18 AM

Oh oh, someone is playing some games. BIP 91 was at 81 briefly now it dropped to 79%? hmm

Bitcoin.com switched from BIP91 to BU.

Sigh....

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Oh oh, someone is playing some games. BIP 91 was at 81 briefly now it dropped to 79%? hmm

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Quote from: e-coinomist on July 19, 2017, 03:57:27 AM

Quote from: allinvain on July 18, 2017, 06:27:14 AM

Quote from: -ck on July 18, 2017, 06:23:59 AM

Quote from: ComputerGenie on July 18, 2017, 06:18:53 AM

... and for the love of all that is Bitcoin, take all of your BTC out of anywhere where you don't control the keys.....

Definitely do this too. Right now everyone should be pulling everything out of the exchanges they've been treating as banks.

It boggles the mind why people keep on doing this.

Calling for a BANKRUN?

Somehow, Bitcoin needs to make it onto the newspapers

Pssh, a bankrun is no biggie when the sky is falling!

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Quote from: allinvain on July 18, 2017, 06:27:14 AM

Quote from: -ck on July 18, 2017, 06:23:59 AM

Quote from: ComputerGenie on July 18, 2017, 06:18:53 AM

... and for the love of all that is Bitcoin, take all of your BTC out of anywhere where you don't control the keys.....

Definitely do this too. Right now everyone should be pulling everything out of the exchanges they've been treating as banks.

It boggles the mind why people keep on doing this.

Calling for a BANKRUN?

Somehow, Bitcoin needs to make it onto the newspapers

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Quote from: allinvain on July 18, 2017, 06:44:02 PM

Slush started signalling SW in case anyone is wondering.

Yes I was wondering.

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Don't worry, I promise we'll be gentle on you. We'll wear latex gloves and apply aloe vera lotion to your skin, and once you've arrived at your destination we'll give you a free SegWit cookie! Wink

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Quote from: allinvain on July 18, 2017, 10:15:13 PM

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with networked watch-only wallet running atop Bitcoin Unlimited, on my non-mining, fully validating node.

Eewwwww, Bitcoin Unlimited Cheesy

*plugs nose*. I kid, I kid.

It's even worse - it's an older version from before the DoS attacks / bug failures - not the newer patched and hardened variety. Oh-the-hugemanatee!.gif

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So you gonna join the great SegWit revolution?

Only if forced, kicking and screaming. I will never accept SegWit coins as being the true equivalent of Bitcoins. For they are not. They are but a cheap substitute. With a vastly inferior security model.

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Quote from: jbreher on July 18, 2017, 09:35:08 PM

Why? Can't exchange without exchanging. I'm up over a full Bitcoin in just the last two days by capitalizing on the volatility.

True, but I was thining of the people who use the exchange wallet as a "savings account" . These people are not really traders. Traders I totally understand needing to leave some btc on the exchange's hot wallet.

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with networked watch-only wallet running atop Bitcoin Unlimited, on my non-mining, fully validating node.

Eewwwww, Bitcoin Unlimited Cheesy

*plugs nose*. I kid, I kid. So you gonna join the great SegWit revolution?

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Quote from: jbreher on July 18, 2017, 09:23:52 PM

Quote from: mindrust on July 18, 2017, 02:57:15 AM

Quote from: -ck on July 18, 2017, 02:49:24 AM

Quote from: allinvain on July 17, 2017, 09:49:54 PM

I lol so hard at the BU blocks. Why? Why oh why! -edit- looks like the BU blocks are slowly dying so whoever was running BU nodes is slowly migrating.

Never fear, the big blockers will be back with their next hard fork coup attempt in the guise of bitcoinABC.

And Band of UASF Brothers will be waiting for them again. We till throw them into the sea just like the last time.

Yes. We tremble in fear from the image of pasty geeks trying to look tough grasping poorly maintained implements of vegetation maintenance.

Roll Eyes

True story!! Cheesy

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Quote from: allinvain on July 18, 2017, 06:27:14 AM

Quote from: -ck on July 18, 2017, 06:23:59 AM

Quote from: ComputerGenie on July 18, 2017, 06:18:53 AM

... and for the love of all that is Bitcoin, take all of your BTC out of anywhere where you don't control the keys.....

Definitely do this too. Right now everyone should be pulling everything out of the exchanges they've been treating as banks.

It boggles the mind why people keep on doing this.

Why? Can't exchange without exchanging. I'm up over a full Bitcoin in just the last two days by capitalizing on the volatility.

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Even an SPV wallet is better!

For some use cases, yes. For others, no.

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At least with those you own the private keys. If the exchanges have issues your coins could be locked away until they sort out their problems.

An acknowledged risk. Which is why I hold the bulk of my BTC on an airgapped system Armory install, with networked watch-only wallet running atop Bitcoin Unlimited, on my non-mining, fully validating node. But I do have a small portion of my BTC on exchange. The return has been demonstrated to be well worth the risk

Oh look! Price just dropped to my next standing buy order. Pocket another 23 mills of profit, enter corresponding sell. Lather, rinse, repeat.

^^ that's why.

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Quote from: mindrust on July 18, 2017, 02:57:15 AM

Quote from: -ck on July 18, 2017, 02:49:24 AM

Quote from: allinvain on July 17, 2017, 09:49:54 PM

I lol so hard at the BU blocks. Why? Why oh why! -edit- looks like the BU blocks are slowly dying so whoever was running BU nodes is slowly migrating.

Never fear, the big blockers will be back with their next hard fork coup attempt in the guise of bitcoinABC.

And Band of UASF Brothers will be waiting for them again. We till throw them into the sea just like the last time.

Yes. We tremble in fear from the image of pasty geeks trying to look tough grasping poorly maintained implements of vegetation maintenance.

Roll Eyes

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Slush started signalling SW in case anyone is wondering.

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Ruu \o/

Quote from: BrewMaster on July 18, 2017, 09:57:19 AM

signalling means changing a variable. this variable is the block version.
to support BIP91 which SegWit2x implemented you change that variable to 0x20000010 and to support more than one BIP you add the bits to this number for example to support both SegWit2x (BIP91) and SegWit you change it to 0x20000012 (addition of bit 1 and bit 4 if i am not mistaken)
SegWit alone is 0x20000002

for these stuff you don't need to run a specific client, you just edit a single line of code.

you may also run btc1 client and change your useragent to something different to mask the fact that you are running that client, maybe to protect against getting DDoSed Grin

No. Changing just one bit is not enough to be safe with the BIP91 fork because part of running BIP91 means orphaning any blocks that aren't signalling segwit once support is over 80%

Quote from: BitcoinNewsMagazine on July 18, 2017, 09:28:47 AM

@-ck what client you running? Bitnodes shows only 64 btc1 clients while BIP91 is almost 65% at xbt.eu. Almost no one is running Garzik's client just signaling BIP91 it seems.

I run a custom coin daemon but the extra code for BIP91 comes from here:
https://github.com/segsignal/bitcoin

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Quote from: BrewMaster on July 18, 2017, 09:57:19 AM

...you may also run btc1 client and change your useragent to something different to mask the fact that you are running that client...

Precisely the reason that most counts don't count. Undecided

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Quote from: BitcoinNewsMagazine on July 18, 2017, 09:28:47 AM

@-ck what client you running? Bitnodes shows only 64 btc1 clients while BIP91 is almost 65% at xbt.eu. Almost no one is running Garzik's client just signaling BIP91 it seems.

signalling means changing a variable. this variable is the block version.
to support BIP91 which SegWit2x implemented you change that variable to 0x20000010 and to support more than one BIP you add the bits to this number for example to support both SegWit2x (BIP91) and SegWit you change it to 0x20000012 (addition of bit 1 and bit 4 if i am not mistaken)
SegWit alone is 0x20000002

for these stuff you don't need to run a specific client, you just edit a single line of code.

you may also run btc1 client and change your useragent to something different to mask the fact that you are running that client, maybe to protect against getting DDoSed Grin

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