Topic: The Barry Silbert segwit2x agreement with >80% miner support. - page 47. (Read 120029 times)

Pretty much this. A lot of the wallets, both online and standalone are not that smart with respect to fees and have been manually adjusted to higher levels and haven't been adjusted back down. Anyone running bitcoin core/qt which has a dynamic fee estimator would have noticed the drop in recommended minimum fees to just over 100 satoshi per byte over a week ago.

This site has been showing it for a while too if people have been paying attention instead of using some braindead default:
https://bitcoinfees.21.co/

yes it is. are you already married? 

They're infamous for doing shit like that purely to save face from having to admit they're backpedalling on their BU stance. It's just a coinbase message so it doesn't cost them anything in terms of risk to leave it in there. BU was always just a bargaining tool for them in the first place once UASF was mentioned. Now that they have a way to make it look like they're not actually agreeing to core, even though they actually are, they can finally get rid of it but they're proving their usual level of inertia with previous claims. Most of the other pools that are either covertly or overtly under bitmain's control are still doing the same thing. These morons need to get off their arses and be clear about their message and stop adding conflicting messages to their coinbase. The joke got tired a long time ago.

Segwit2x support over 24 hours is now over 55% making it higher than any activation signal to date and looks set to easily get to the 80% required to start signalling in mid July. Adding the existing BIP141 signalling pools to the total means segwit is a surety unless something happens for them to start backpedalling on their agreement.

This whole approach was really stupid in the first place by the mining agreement and I'm just glad someone stepped up to the plate to make their incompatible bit4 nonsense compatible with existing core nodes and segwit activation.

Kindly help a not-so techie a bit, as the term 'SegWit2x' is confusing for me:

BIP148, USAF, SegWit, I understand those. But SegWit2x, that confuses me; I assume that SegWit2x is just another name for SegWit2Mb ?

or more possible because wallet failed to calculate right the fee right now. Today even a transaction with zero fees has confirmed

I pointed out the drop in mempool spam a few weeks ago and nobody commented. What's interesting is fees haven't gone down, probably because the blocks are still full and people have their fees cranked up to avoid stuck transactions. Since the blocks are full, I'm guessing that fake volume with a lot of inputs was clogging the mempool. I also saw last month 1000s of transactions that were invalid, that slowed the network down, indicating an actor with high technical knowledge.

I'm hoping somebody who is more technically knowledgeable than me can figure out who was/is spamming. I know it's not that easy to attribute the transactions. Chances are we could at least get a source IP address, and then work from there...

Oh please... You were about a sarcastic as Janet Yellen delivering a report to congress.

We're in a visual medium here, so you can't use icons like to end your otherwise drooling-newbie mistaken posts and have other people imagine that you were just being sarcastic.

Worse yet, if you were being sarcastic, you would have been defending the core dev team with that statement... And then turned around seconds later to tear them down, accusing them of " hurling more unfounded accusations of the hardware guys." -Which is ludicrous but that's another argument.

So it couldn't have been sarcasm. Give it up.

BTW, Amir Taaki is back in town from the frontline (w/ AK47) in Syria. things could get funny again.

Every time "the price of tx frees" is mentioned in all of this, I taste a little bit of sick in my mouth. It's sad to see the politicized buzz-words/phrases that get tossed into this mix.

The thing that we're going to have to understand is that if the miners want to do this and if we don't agree we can simply stop using the currency all together and stick to using the one we love, we don't have to follow in their hard fork if you don't want to. I do fully support it think this is the best for Bitcoin, but I don't really know what the others hear think about it.

I'm going to be with this guy and just simply get the point of simply praying that this will be the end all be all for this debate. Maybe the fucking TX fees will go down from the insane prices they're at now as well, please miners?

Lol, save fail.

Perfect evidence that the concepts of sarcasm and irony are entirely over your head.  


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BTW, "what is going on with bitcoin" is the same pissing match that has gone on for the last 30 years (the software guys are crying in their Mommies' panties over the fact that they haven't been able to monetize a protocol in the same manner that the hardware guys have [as evidenced by the thousands of times the software guys (who "only" make hundreds of thousands of dollars to develop a free piece of software) have extended the anti-hardware campaign by repeatedly hurling more unfounded accusations of the hardware guys (who make millions of dollars from physical devices and the use of those devices - ergo "profiting twice") using "covert" asicboost because they know that Joe Average is above demanding evidence for such accusations]).

the code change for support will be at 16 July. For now they can comment to their blocks whatever they like.

It's confusing to you that Jihan would signal both of the clients that are in opposition to the Core devs and would help oust them?

Perfect evidence that you simply have no clue what is going on with bitcoin.

Im' cornfuzzed!
Antpool is signaling Segwit2x and BU:
https://btc.com/stats/pool/AntPool
 

As far i know getting Segwit via miners is saver than UASF with a possible chain-split. I thought it is compatible with Bip48. If they cheat uss then we dont run there client and ore PoW change.
I still see them as suspicios especially with there rushed HF.

More miners has signaled Segwit2x.

I almost can't wait for a year from now when Bitcoin is "suffering" from the next "lack of innovation" and all those that made the base argument that segwit "will lead to new innovation" have to eat crow. 

criticism accepted. truly. I fact I take that the problem is a governance one. If there are priorities (high fees due to a bottleneck in tx proccessing) we should have a way to define an agenda and a way to focus proper action whatever it is. What is horrendous it's to play games and meassure our egos over bitcoin* because this is not just cryptocoolness and alt-glamour. This is now people's money.
*by no means I am implying you here but us all

This summer storm was good in a sense because we could see that bitcoin is stong enough to endure the tension (We still have to make it through august, though). But we have to learn a lesson from this. We may not be the ones taking decisions in this forum but some better way must be found.

Now, governance is a tricky thing. I drop the idea but I reckon that I have no idea of any governance system with which I would be completely confortable in the first place.

Signalling means nothing so far! The miners can still play stupid games with us. And some of them will! That's for sure!
Furthermore I will take SegWit and will be happy about that. But a few months later they can fork off if they want! I will definitely not run their client and will definitely not be part of this huge block network they are trying to build.

Basically the ones that didn't sign the agreement. Many of the pools that were already signalling segwit haven't added NYA to their signature (they didn't sign the agreement in the first place), and some that haven't made any decision still haven't made any decision.