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sr. member
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February 12, 2013, 08:33:08 PM
Welp, looks like Dave isnt willing to help much, since hes gone silent it looks like. So, Im pretty damn sure hes on this whole fuckin mess too..

If you recall his "announcement" when the mess started.... He repeatedly say he still believe Tom will carry this project forward blah blah.... Tom is a good stand up man. blah blah...

If hes not in on this, hes the most clueless(retarded) person on this board.




Sorry disagree

Dave was paid to do a job, he was an outside contractor and as long as he personally did not break the law or know about it. Then his hands are clean.
It is the OWNER/DIRECTORS of companies that are ultimately responsible for any actions perpetrated under an organizations name.

Certainly there is some 'dirty business' in this forum, posts are deleted, records removed and even some members of the "Admin" team do not have clean hands in this affair.
But ultimately that will reflect on the forum and the implemented ethical standards, certainly if it was a company  it would not be allowed to operate as it has been doing in the last few weeks.

But the members are just as responsible for this, because they tolerate it.



Tom will magically appear when he thinks it's all died down...



Dont you love the censorship in this forums? Posts magically disappeared. Not even a fcking msg to the original poster.

Sounds like they've learned media control from chairman Mao.
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February 12, 2013, 08:02:53 PM
Welp, looks like Dave isnt willing to help much, since hes gone silent it looks like. So, Im pretty damn sure hes on this whole fuckin mess too..

If you recall his "announcement" when the mess started.... He repeatedly say he still believe Tom will carry this project forward blah blah.... Tom is a good stand up man. blah blah...

If hes not in on this, hes the most clueless(retarded) person on this board.




Sorry disagree

Dave was paid to do a job, he was an outside contractor and as long as he personally did not break the law or know about it. Then his hands are clean.
It is the OWNER/DIRECTORS of companies that are ultimately responsible for any actions perpetrated under an organizations name.

Certainly there is some 'dirty business' in this forum, posts are deleted, records removed and even some members of the "Admin" team do not have clean hands in this affair.
But ultimately that will reflect on the forum and the implemented ethical standards, certainly if it was a company  it would not be allowed to operate as it has been doing in the last few weeks.

But the members are just as responsible for this, because they tolerate it.



Tom will magically appear when he thinks it's all died down...

legendary
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February 12, 2013, 08:00:00 PM
Its fairly clear, at this point, since dave hasnt helped us one bit past the stupid CC refunds (mostly to cover his own ass) ... Im pretty sure Dave is in on this whole BTC scam as well. I mean, he should be more upset about this than any of us if he was being honest bout what his part in btcfpga is...
But NOO,  hes gotta play the "I gotta protect tom card"(as fairly evident in his recent posts)... I mean duh...thats evidence enough.
sr. member
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February 12, 2013, 07:52:08 PM
Holy crap you're abrasive...newbie.

Dave said on more than one occasion that he and Tom were nowhere near each other. Hell lots of us spoke with Tom on the phone...big deal. If Dave actually believed everything that Tom said then why did he tell everyone to do chargebacks? That was clearly not in Tom's best interest.

You post prove my point of him being the most idiot again  Roll Eyes

Has Dave ever wondered what his job is? like really?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGS2tKQhdhY


Any scammer would love to pay some idiot to do "PR" for him.
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February 12, 2013, 07:48:09 PM
Holy crap you're abrasive...newbie.

Dave said on more than one occasion that he and Tom were nowhere near each other. Hell lots of us spoke with Tom on the phone...big deal. If Dave actually believed everything that Tom said then why did he tell everyone to do chargebacks? That was clearly not in Tom's best interest.

PS...perhaps a switch to boxers is in order?
sr. member
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February 12, 2013, 07:40:35 PM
If hes not in on this, hes the most clueless(retarded) person on this board.

That is a pretty bold statement considering all the morons on here that have been and continue to be scammed, I would say he is closer to the back of the line in being clueless.

Idiot, Hes the only one who was in contact with Tom. His involvement should have given him more clues than anyone got on here.

Whos the moron now?


That would be you asshole he would only know what Tom told him if he hid the truth way from him like the rest of us then he would have been in the dark too. PLONK.

Can you fcking read?

Did you just agree with me Dave is the most retard? by implying he trusted what Tom told him?

Atleast hes the only one able to have direct contact with Tom, heck even "working" together with him.

Ass licking much?

SAC
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February 12, 2013, 06:54:35 PM
If hes not in on this, hes the most clueless(retarded) person on this board.

That is a pretty bold statement considering all the morons on here that have been and continue to be scammed, I would say he is closer to the back of the line in being clueless.

Idiot, Hes the only one who was in contact with Tom. His involvement should have given him more clues than anyone got on here.

Whos the moron now?


That would be you asshole he would only know what Tom told him if he hid the truth way from him like the rest of us then he would have been in the dark too. PLONK.
sr. member
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February 12, 2013, 04:31:39 PM
If hes not in on this, hes the most clueless(retarded) person on this board.

That is a pretty bold statement considering all the morons on here that have been and continue to be scammed, I would say he is closer to the back of the line in being clueless.

Idiot, Hes the only one who was in contact with Tom. His involvement should have given him more clues than anyone got on here.

Whos the moron now?
SAC
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February 12, 2013, 04:24:58 PM
If hes not in on this, hes the most clueless(retarded) person on this board.

That is a pretty bold statement considering all the morons on here that have been and continue to be scammed, I would say he is closer to the back of the line in being clueless.
sr. member
Activity: 462
Merit: 250
February 12, 2013, 04:02:26 PM
Welp, looks like Dave isnt willing to help much, since hes gone silent it looks like. So, Im pretty damn sure hes on this whole fuckin mess too..

If you recall his "announcement" when the mess started.... He repeatedly say he still believe Tom will carry this project forward blah blah.... Tom is a good stand up man. blah blah...

If hes not in on this, hes the most clueless(retarded) person on this board.


legendary
Activity: 2450
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February 12, 2013, 02:09:54 PM
Welp, looks like Dave isnt willing to help much, since hes gone silent it looks like. So, Im pretty damn sure hes on this whole fuckin mess too..
legendary
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February 12, 2013, 11:08:57 AM
hi, anyone with wire transfer waiting for refund?

thanks
Agath is, I believe. I don't think he's heard anything either.
newbie
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February 12, 2013, 10:44:41 AM
hi, anyone with wire transfer waiting for refund?

thanks
hero member
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February 12, 2013, 04:46:27 AM
See this thread:

"LEGAL COURSE of ACTION Discussion --- bASIC / BitcoinASIC":

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.1521157

||bit
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February 11, 2013, 10:34:58 PM
Make sure you hit the Scam Accusation thread.. he still had a cloak of support and "team tommy" supporters for whatever reason(s)..

BTCtalk is giving him a "couple more weeks" before officially laying the scam label on him.. very laughable..
legendary
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February 11, 2013, 10:17:19 PM
Tom intended to scam us all from the start, its so god damn obvious. Ugh...
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February 11, 2013, 09:00:56 PM
The Accounts have been erased for the site

https://www.bitcoinasic.net/

prior to 10th feb 2013

But as of recently the whole site is taken down......
And now points to a 'safe' page.

A fraud case has been filed with the HK Cyber crime department.
Full details , pictures, address details have been passed over, which basically means if someone were to visit HK/China, it is likely they would be flagged at immigration.

It's the little thankyou's than matter.
legendary
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February 11, 2013, 08:39:18 PM

All,
I don't know. But I'm wondering if a new thread should be started to organize the victims of bASIC to collaborate on a legal course. For example, collectively search for a lawyer online, and invite him/her for consultation. Consultation would probably need to be at least over phone, but the use of a chat thread might be of help to consolidate information on exact complaint(s), kinds of evidence and any questions for the lawyer(s).  Some things might need to be held confidentially, in order to prevent Tom and any others from circumventing whatever evidence is discussed.

Perhaps, one or more of of us can represent the group. A collective fund could pay for said lawyer...etc...

Thoughts?

||bit

+1 we need to do somthing!

Team Tommy is just gonna wait this one out -unless his hand is forced...

either we lawyer up, or drive to NYC and 'talk' Tom into returning our BTC, or whatever BTC assets he may still hold.

With all due respect, please refer to da man as Pastor Tom.
sr. member
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Technology and Women. Amazing.
February 11, 2013, 03:25:27 PM
I was finally able to login to btcfpga after remembering my 19 character email password lol Sad
Please change my status on the list to:  Payment Address Requested

Although I've already emailed both Tom and Dave an address to send refunds to. Dave replied saying he's no longer involved in the project at all, and no response from Tom.

Who's ready to bust out some pitchforks and torches?
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February 11, 2013, 10:24:14 AM

All,
I don't know. But I'm wondering if a new thread should be started to organize the victims of bASIC to collaborate on a legal course. For example, collectively search for a lawyer online, and invite him/her for consultation. Consultation would probably need to be at least over phone, but the use of a chat thread might be of help to consolidate information on exact complaint(s), kinds of evidence and any questions for the lawyer(s).  Some things might need to be held confidentially, in order to prevent Tom and any others from circumventing whatever evidence is discussed.

Perhaps, one or more of of us can represent the group. A collective fund could pay for said lawyer...etc...

Thoughts?

||bit

+1 we need to do somthing!

Team Tommy is just gonna wait this one out -unless his hand is forced...

either we lawyer up, or drive to NYC and 'talk' Tom into returning our BTC, or whatever BTC assets he may still hold.
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