* Order date 29/09/2012
* Order number 7xx
* Quantity BASIC01 (the $1069.99 72GH/s unit) x1
* Quantity BASIC02 (the $599.99 36GH/s unit)
* Quantity BASIC02 --> BASIC01 upgrade
* Order status currently shown on website n/a
* Payment type Bitcoin
* Date refund was requested 10/01/2013
* Date refund was received ...
Almost a month since the refund was requested. I didn't get the email requesting the return btc address either; however I did send this unprompted along with the refund request. No sign of a refund for the shipping upgrade either.
Topic: The bASIC Refund Tracking Thread - page 12. (Read 41044 times)
BASIC01 x1 unit, Order ID: #1648, Date Added: 22/10/2012, refund requested: 18.01.2013 (Dave), status: Payment Address Requested, Payment type: BTC, refund was received: NO, name: Karasur
Dave,
What is Tom's contact info? How can a person submit for a refund request now that you aren't helping? I'd really not like to have to escalate this matter if possible.
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Best email address I'm aware of is [email protected]
Dave,
Do you still have a master refund request list? How do I get on it?
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Dave. Do you still maintain the list?
PS - Dave, please note that your Bitcointalk profile is still pointing to the CAN-ELECTRIC (latest in the long list of shady web page edits to come out of Upstate New York) webpage.
Dave, for your own protection right now I strongly suggest you hold onto copies of any information you hold related to BTCFPGA. The whole CAN-ELECTRIC fraud is very likely a criminal offence and investigators are probably going to want to talk to everyone who was associated with BTCFPGA about what's transpired over the last few weeks and how that fraud came about.
PS - Dave, please note that your Bitcointalk profile is still pointing to the CAN-ELECTRIC (latest in the long list of shady web page edits to come out of Upstate New York) webpage.
Count me in for the refund waiting list:
Order #88X paid via mtgoxUSDCode to tom for 3 "big" basics.
Order #172X paid via Bitcoin "the DHL upgrade.
Refund requested Jan 13.
on Jan 18 reply of Dave -> forwarded to Tom
buttfuct i feel so far, meaning:
no refund yet received
Order #88X paid via mtgoxUSDCode to tom for 3 "big" basics.
Order #172X paid via Bitcoin "the DHL upgrade.
Refund requested Jan 13.
on Jan 18 reply of Dave -> forwarded to Tom
buttfuct i feel so far, meaning:
no refund yet received
And once again, those who actually payed in the currency we're trying to promote get the short end of the stick.
AFAIK, two people know who is owed what - Tom Van Riper and Dave Carlson. Because it seems that Tom is unwilling to do so, I'd like to see Dave provide this community with an anonymized list of BTC refunds requested from Tom along with the associated addresses so that we can:
- Verify if and when refunds are paid.
- Get a handle on HOW big a swindle this really is.
Yes, I personally believe that a publicly available list of refunds requested and a publicly verifiable resource which can be cited in order to publicly quantify how LARGE a swindle this has turned out to be would be worthwhile. At the very least, a SUM of the total BTC left to be refunded seems to be in order. (AFIK no BTC refunds have been processed since we were promised EVERY SINGLE CUSTOMER WILL BE REFUNDED. PERIOD.)
PS - Dave, please note that your Bitcointalk profile is still pointing to the CAN-ELECTRIC (latest in the long list of shady web page edits to come out of Upstate New York) webpage.
If you believe that, I've got a bridge for sale.
There's certainly no reason to believe that Can Electric's email account has been compromised. The very first "Tom's out" "Dave's out" post on the new website was very much in the style of Tom's previous drunken postings - some of which were made before he claimed his accounts had been hacked.
There's certainly no reason to believe that Can Electric's email account has been compromised. The very first "Tom's out" "Dave's out" post on the new website was very much in the style of Tom's previous drunken postings - some of which were made before he claimed his accounts had been hacked.
From the standpoint that Ari has acknowledged he is not responsible for the new site (is this really true?), it's certainly possible that Ari's own identity was compromised in order for *somebody* to use it for this purpose. Perhaps somebody knows him and just used his details, or somebody with something more sophisticated in mind is using his persona (stole his ID).
lol, for the obvious part: the person who is changing bitcoinasic.net is reading the forums very frequently, especially this thread. everytime someone mentions something wrong with the page it gets updates within a day. Just sayin
Then they now know that we know it's a fraud and that the owner of the real Can Electric is aware of the fraud. If I was Tom, I'd be just a little worried right now because he's the one who lawyers and/or police are going to be contacting and I doubt they're going to buy the "I was hacked" story.
lol, for the obvious part: the person who is changing bitcoinasic.net is reading the forums very frequently, especially this thread. everytime someone mentions something wrong with the page it gets updates within a day. Just sayin
Dave,
What is Tom's contact info? How can a person submit for a refund request now that you aren't helping? I'd really not like to have to escalate this matter if possible.
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Best email address I'm aware of is [email protected]
Dave,
Do you still have a master refund request list? How do I get on it?
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wow.... Is Tom (CablePair) really that crazy that he would setup a fake website with all that fake info to attract more investors?
yes
Didn't Tom get hacked, or at least have some of his accounts compromised recently?
If you believe that, I've got a bridge for sale.
There's certainly no reason to believe that Can Electric's email account has been compromised. The very first "Tom's out" "Dave's out" post on the new website was very much in the style of Tom's previous drunken postings - some of which were made before he claimed his accounts had been hacked.
Didn't Tom get hacked, or at least have some of his accounts compromised recently?
If Ari has confirmed he has nothing to do with BTCFPGA, then it stands plausible that both Tom and Ari had their (email) accounts compromised from which point the culprits 1) forwarded Tom's old domain to a new one and 2) bought a new domain probably under Ari's identity and created the whole "takeover" story in an attempt to funnel Bitcoins their way. It's a poorly done job overall, so nobody should fall for it at this point.
If Ari has confirmed he has nothing to do with BTCFPGA, then it stands plausible that both Tom and Ari had their (email) accounts compromised from which point the culprits 1) forwarded Tom's old domain to a new one and 2) bought a new domain probably under Ari's identity and created the whole "takeover" story in an attempt to funnel Bitcoins their way. It's a poorly done job overall, so nobody should fall for it at this point.
wow.... Is Tom (CablePair) really that crazy that he would setup a fake website with all that fake info to attract more investors?
Guess the only thing to do is for everyone to open up a suit against him. Seems to be only way to get somthing out of this whole thing.
As it's now been confirmed by the owner of the real Can Electric that the revised bASIC website is fraudulent, I think Tom's in for a world of legal hurt.
Guess the only thing to do is for everyone to open up a suit against him. Seems to be only way to get somthing out of this whole thing.
Exactly, but I'd be surprised if this happens.
Guess the only thing to do is for everyone to open up a suit against him. Seems to be only way to get somthing out of this whole thing.
new basic address?
https://www.bitcoinasic.net/index.php?route=information/contact
CAN-ELECTRIC
Ayinda 1 city- Block G, No.21 Erbil/Iraq
P: +964 750 344 6566
https://www.bitcoinasic.net/index.php?route=information/contact
CAN-ELECTRIC
Ayinda 1 city- Block G, No.21 Erbil/Iraq
P: +964 750 344 6566
I'm not convinced this is legitimate. It's one digit off the phone number for the real Can Electric and I've had no reply to an email I sent to Can Electric (the real one) asking whether they've ever heard of Tom and his project. Nothing on the real Can Electric's website suggests that they have any experience whatsoever in developing computing technology, let alone any ability to handle the entire process in-house.
Next step is trying to contact Ari Asmar - the owner of the real Can Electric on the number on Can Electric's website.
Dave,
What is Tom's contact info? How can a person submit for a refund request now that you aren't helping? I'd really not like to have to escalate this matter if possible.
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Best email address I'm aware of is [email protected]
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