Topic: The bASIC Refund Tracking Thread - page 25. (Read 41031 times)
Twisted cablepair Tom said he refunded $200.000 and over $100.000 in BTC.
I think he paid just a few of his "friends" back so they will not burn him at the forums... and jacked the rest of it.
Another one we can add to the long list of bitcoin scammers like .........pffffffffffff
Cheers Tom
I think he paid just a few of his "friends" back so they will not burn him at the forums... and jacked the rest of it.
Another one we can add to the long list of bitcoin scammers like .........pffffffffffff
Cheers Tom
Well that would explain everything! Nobody got before the 20th of Jan a refund!
Twisted cablepair Tom said he refunded $200.000 and over $100.000 in BTC.
I think he paid just a few of his "friends" back so they will not burn him at the forums... and jacked the rest of it.
Another one we can add to the long list of bitcoin scammers like .........pffffffffffff
Cheers Tom
I think he paid just a few of his "friends" back so they will not burn him at the forums... and jacked the rest of it.
Another one we can add to the long list of bitcoin scammers like .........pffffffffffff
Cheers Tom
You'll have to ask him. If it makes you feel better though, I also got my credit card refund on the 12, and it hit my bank account about a week ago.
You won't get a refund before every cc refund has been sent and till now, NO cc refund has been recorded!
People who have received their refunds still paid a cost, an actual monetary one if they paid with anything other than USD (BTC, Euro etc) due to exchange rates. In any case they lost due to opportunity cost by placing orders with bASIC in all cases they made a choice to not deal with one of the alternative manufacturers and lost out on earlier delivery.
Just to confirm, my order was 25 units, I requested a refund for the credit card transactions around the 11th Jan from Dave and I got the money back this morning in my online statements, I did loose a few percent on the $USD vs EUR exchange rate. But that could have had gone the other way, it just sucks to see the EUR gain so much in the last few weeks :-) And for 4 months my money was tied up and I could not use it for normal business, which could have gained me a lot more.But at least they are keeping their word on the refunds.
My personal cost in this unfolding drama (comedy) is that I gave away 6 Avalon reservations (have fun Maurilio!) that in hindsight I should have kept. But the optimistic estimated delivery projected by BFL and bASIC made me place orders at them instead, so now I have the queue again to try and get more Avalon units...
Can we have a confirmation, a REAL confirmation, that he really got the money? Like a scan or something?
You won't get a refund before every cc refund has been sent and till now, NO cc refund has been recorded!
People who have received their refunds still paid a cost, an actual monetary one if they paid with anything other than USD (BTC, Euro etc) due to exchange rates. In any case they lost due to opportunity cost by placing orders with bASIC in all cases they made a choice to not deal with one of the alternative manufacturers and lost out on earlier delivery.
Just to confirm, my order was 25 units, I requested a refund for the credit card transactions around the 11th Jan from Dave and I got the money back this morning in my online statements, I did loose a few percent on the $USD vs EUR exchange rate. But that could have had gone the other way, it just sucks to see the EUR gain so much in the last few weeks :-) And for 4 months my money was tied up and I could not use it for normal business, which could have gained me a lot more.But at least they are keeping their word on the refunds.
My personal cost in this unfolding drama (comedy) is that I gave away 6 Avalon reservations (have fun Maurilio!) that in hindsight I should have kept. But the optimistic estimated delivery projected by BFL and bASIC made me place orders at them instead, so now I have the queue again to try and get more Avalon units...
You won't get a refund before every cc refund has been sent and till now, NO cc refund has been recorded!
anyone get a refund yet?(BTC)
... 90% of new businesses fail. ...
All businesses fail. Just like people.
... 90% of new businesses fail. ...
All businesses fail. Just like people.
Dave seems to be going through and refunding CC payments today, my status and others have been changed to refunded. Now for the BTC portion.
Any positive sightings of Bitcoin refunds? I'm holding on to faith that those of us who have put our trust fully in this new currency by attempting to purchase mining equipment with Bitcoin (thereby completing a theoretical loop) will not be left in the cold.
BTC
BTC I am over this total lack of accountability...oh well i now understand where the community is at
Hey I dont really care what u do or dont do ...i have a CC charge back so good luck with your BTC return payment
Toms a good guy stop being mean to him .....lol
Going to focus on positive stuff..if u want to let people steal your money then good luck to u
It's got nothing to do with being nice, it's about legal realities. You can make a report to the computer crime unit of your state police - they'll then forward it to their counterparts in New York. Nobody from NSW Police is going to hop on a plane to investigate or try to extradite Tom to Australia. Because the AFP has limited resources, they have very strict guidelines about what they investigate and the amount Australians have lost is likely to fall well below their threshold. If grounds for fraud prosecution did exist - and failure to pay refunds alone does not prove fraud - then the best case could be made in Tom's own jurisdiction based on complaints made by customers in the US.
Yeah, if it can be proved that the chips were never ordered, that a deposit was never paid for the chips and that Tom has been spending pre-order money on hookers and blow then you have a shot at establishing fraud - but business failure due to incompetence, unforeseen circumstance, under-capitalisation, etc isn't fraud. 90% of new businesses fail. That's something people need to remember every single time they hand over their BTC to a Bitcoin enterprise and don't immediately get something in return. Your Bitcoins are safest when they are under your direct control.
It's not about being mean or being nice. Cops literally don't give a sh1t about theft here, that's what guns are for.
Dave seems to be going through and refunding CC payments today, my status and others have been changed to refunded. Now for the BTC portion.
Dave seems to be going through and refunding CC payments today, my status and others have been changed to refunded. Now for the BTC portion.
I dunno where you live, but police around here do nothing save eat donuts and ask if you have insurance. Course if you're jaywalking or driving without a seatbelt...well then my friend you'd better be ready to see barney fife up close and personal like.
Fucked if I know why he's telling people to call the police. Here in Australia it's a breach of contract issue rather than a criminal matter. It's typically not worth the cost of taking civil action internationally for small claims.
I am over this total lack of accountability...oh well i now understand where the community is at
Hey I dont really care what u do or dont do ...i have a CC charge back so good luck with your BTC return payment
Toms a good guy stop being mean to him .....lol
Going to focus on positive stuff..if u want to let people steal your money then good luck to u
I dunno where you live, but police around here do nothing save eat donuts and ask if you have insurance. Course if you're jaywalking or driving without a seatbelt...well then my friend you'd better be ready to see barney fife up close and personal like.
Fucked if I know why he's telling people to call the police. Here in Australia it's a breach of contract issue rather than a criminal matter. It's typically not worth the cost of taking civil action internationally for small claims.
I dunno where you live, but police around here do nothing save eat donuts and ask if you have insurance. Course if you're jaywalking or driving without a seatbelt...well then my friend you'd better be ready to see barney fife up close and personal like.
meh - YipYip is just yapping like a little ankle dog.. more annoying than anything of substance..
I dunno where you live, but police around here do nothing save eat donuts and ask if you have insurance. Course if you're jaywalking or driving without a seatbelt...well then my friend you'd better be ready to see barney fife up close and personal like.
This all reeks of CON ARTIST TRADECRAFT
Call the police...this is all bullshit...It would take them 6 hours to process 1000 orders
Everyday is another day of lies...THE BTC guys are fucked ...even CC chargeback can take upto 90 days +
1 more day and thats it SCAMMERS @ what point did pirate get his tag
1-2 months after he stopped paying everyone?Call the police...this is all bullshit...It would take them 6 hours to process 1000 orders
Everyday is another day of lies...THE BTC guys are fucked ...even CC chargeback can take upto 90 days +
1 more day and thats it SCAMMERS @ what point did pirate get his tag
No wonder BTC community is easy prey
We enable all these scammers.....it creates an enviroment where scamming is accepted
As i said 1 day to process all repayments ..its not the fucking great wall of china
Anything less is call the police time
This all reeks of CON ARTIST TRADECRAFT
Call the police...this is all bullshit...It would take them 6 hours to process 1000 orders
Everyday is another day of lies...THE BTC guys are fucked ...even CC chargeback can take upto 90 days +
1 more day and thats it SCAMMERS @ what point did pirate get his tag
1-2 months after he stopped paying everyone? Call the police...this is all bullshit...It would take them 6 hours to process 1000 orders
Everyday is another day of lies...THE BTC guys are fucked ...even CC chargeback can take upto 90 days +
1 more day and thats it SCAMMERS @ what point did pirate get his tag
Wishful thinking here, but wouldnt it be awesome if this shutdown announcement is fake and our bASICs magically arrive in march? =P hahahaha...
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