Whales do not really manipulate as much as they used to and right now we are seeing what the whaleless bitcoin is doing. The price of it doesn't move because small timers do not have time or money to make it move that much, also there is really no reason for manipulation because they are small timers and thousands of them has to come together to make a manipulation which is an organizational hell and wouldn't happen.
So, I would say that halving caused a lot of whales to scare away, or maybe it was the pandemic that caused it, whatever it was I could say that we are far away from being volatile and that means 2020 price should be something close to what it is today. Of course, that is only if this continues for the rest of the year, if anything changes about that, the price would change accordingly as well.
Topic: The bitcoin halving, whales manipulations and its 2020 price valuation (Read 794 times)
July 18, 2020, 03:26:35 PM
July 18, 2020, 05:33:48 AM
Everyone thought there would be a Bitcoin bull market in 2020 and all the indicators and so on. We know whale wants to shakeout as much as they can. And this time the world situation is not good, whales use this panic of the Corona virus to manipulate the market. I hope the market will recover well after halving bitcoin.
But of course, there is a bull run for Bitcoin this year already. May be you don't notice it. If with all that the pandemic has done to global economy still keeps Bitcoin above $9,000, don't you think Bitcoin would've surpassed the 2017 ATH by now? Various financial institutions and companies are recording losses, yet we can't say that for Bitcoin. Remember that a few months ago before the pandemic or start of it Bitcoin traded below $4,000. So, what could still be keeping it at the current price of $9k+ if not a bull surge?I'm thinking about that and I cannot picture out on what will be the price if there's no halving came, But luckily we are in this season since provably we are experiencing a dump right now. Halving shed some light of the investors but hopefully this is not the ATH and when year 2021 came we can see a big spikes coming.
But I don't really know if this will happen but let's see.
July 18, 2020, 02:08:41 AM
Everyone thought there would be a Bitcoin bull market in 2020 and all the indicators and so on. We know whale wants to shakeout as much as they can. And this time the world situation is not good, whales use this panic of the Corona virus to manipulate the market. I hope the market will recover well after halving bitcoin.
But of course, there is a bull run for Bitcoin this year already. May be you don't notice it. If with all that the pandemic has done to global economy still keeps Bitcoin above $9,000, don't you think Bitcoin would've surpassed the 2017 ATH by now? Various financial institutions and companies are recording losses, yet we can't say that for Bitcoin. Remember that a few months ago before the pandemic or start of it Bitcoin traded below $4,000. So, what could still be keeping it at the current price of $9k+ if not a bull surge? April 04, 2020, 06:59:15 PM
Everyone thought there would be a Bitcoin bull market in 2020 and all the indicators and so on. We know whale wants to shakeout as much as they can. And this time the world situation is not good, whales use this panic of the Corona virus to manipulate the market. I hope the market will recover well after halving bitcoin.
It for sure the market will recover. We've been in the hard times before and even suffered harder than this but still, we are able to recover away from that. And there is no reason why we have to give up and being hopeless this time.
Regarding whale's participation, I believe they are out of this. This is a global market problem and a pandemic effect resulting in the market to fall as all business suffered difficulties in their operation.
April 04, 2020, 12:22:31 PM
Everyone thought there would be a Bitcoin bull market in 2020 and all the indicators and so on. We know whale wants to shakeout as much as they can. And this time the world situation is not good, whales use this panic of the Corona virus to manipulate the market. I hope the market will recover well after halving bitcoin.
April 04, 2020, 03:24:47 AM
From now till halving in May is most important time to watch the activity of whales. At whales alert on Twitter I see a lot of buying bitcoin in huge numbers this days and send to unknown wallets. We expect good prices in the days to come but at the same time whales are going to still manipulate prices for better gain for them.
Better you are not too worry with them because they cannot moves the market in a short time. They need time to start moves the market, and that will need huge money to move all of the markets. What we need to do right now is take as much profit as we can while the whales are not yet moving, but if they already move, then we could still trying to make the profit. Just calm down first before you decide, or you cannot see the sign to buy at a reasonable price.
April 03, 2020, 09:20:45 PM
There is no whale bigger then the ocean, they all float within it. BTC has a valid but volatile market most likely, the easiest way to spot a common high or low price is reference to previous action and repeats of patterns. If many can observe that it becomes a regular trend until a larger influence occurs to disrupt that pattern of buying. I find thats often repeated so I generally ignore the idea of false buying, we have traders thats normal but not a conspiracy especially. The biggest danger is exchange corruption or false reporting I think, so long as we dont rely too much on one place.
April 03, 2020, 06:36:23 PM
Whales manipulation is about to end soon...I miss how they play the market through hypes (they are gone already).
Halving event is coming but we we are also in troubled fighting for life and death as coronavirus hits us. Its gonna be a rough year for crypto again. I do hope that halving could help but we'll not expect much for it. I do believe that this gonna be over soon and the market starts to recover but of course, it won't be instant and it takes months.
Well, you should wait and you will see them after this pandemic. The market is a bit sideways you might be surprise if it would start to rise as you didn't expect it. But then again there's no reason for it to suddenly rise since the world is in crisis and people are having a hard time to get the money to move here and there due to the lockdown. Bitcoin halving is fast approaching I wonder what could be the price before and after the halving.Halving event is coming but we we are also in troubled fighting for life and death as coronavirus hits us. Its gonna be a rough year for crypto again. I do hope that halving could help but we'll not expect much for it. I do believe that this gonna be over soon and the market starts to recover but of course, it won't be instant and it takes months.
April 03, 2020, 01:23:18 AM
From now till halving in May is most important time to watch the activity of whales. At whales alert on Twitter I see a lot of buying bitcoin in huge numbers this days and send to unknown wallets. We expect good prices in the days to come but at the same time whales are going to still manipulate prices for better gain for them.
April 02, 2020, 06:12:23 PM
Whales manipulation is about to end soon...I miss how they play the market through hypes (they are gone already).
Halving event is coming but we we are also in troubled fighting for life and death as coronavirus hits us. Its gonna be a rough year for crypto again. I do hope that halving could help but we'll not expect much for it. I do believe that this gonna be over soon and the market starts to recover but of course, it won't be instant and it takes months.
Well, you should wait and you will see them after this pandemic. The market is a bit sideways you might be surprise if it would start to rise as you didn't expect it. But then again there's no reason for it to suddenly rise since the world is in crisis and people are having a hard time to get the money to move here and there due to the lockdown. Bitcoin halving is fast approaching I wonder what could be the price before and after the halving.Halving event is coming but we we are also in troubled fighting for life and death as coronavirus hits us. Its gonna be a rough year for crypto again. I do hope that halving could help but we'll not expect much for it. I do believe that this gonna be over soon and the market starts to recover but of course, it won't be instant and it takes months.
Im not expecting that much in talks of halving event but this is where everybody is focusing on and do still hope that this event would give out some light on this declining market.
I agree into your sentiment which this isnt the right time for investment but pretty sure that whales did already make their move on accumulating cheap coins when they are still on their lowest low.
We do see atleast some small increase but we know that this market can surprise us anytime.
I wonder why people aren't buying since the price is a bit cheap but I think some are already buying that's why Bitcoin suddenly hit $7,100 but it doesn't last that long though since it dropped already to $6,800 again.
Basically this had put every people into fear by now, since the world was still facing total economic crisis which really affected their finances. We need to understand and be patient at this moment, because cheaper value price is always available by the time huge investors will soon gain back their confidence once crisis will be surpassed.
April 02, 2020, 05:35:49 PM
Whales manipulation is about to end soon...I miss how they play the market through hypes (they are gone already).
Halving event is coming but we we are also in troubled fighting for life and death as coronavirus hits us. Its gonna be a rough year for crypto again. I do hope that halving could help but we'll not expect much for it. I do believe that this gonna be over soon and the market starts to recover but of course, it won't be instant and it takes months.
Well, you should wait and you will see them after this pandemic. The market is a bit sideways you might be surprise if it would start to rise as you didn't expect it. But then again there's no reason for it to suddenly rise since the world is in crisis and people are having a hard time to get the money to move here and there due to the lockdown. Bitcoin halving is fast approaching I wonder what could be the price before and after the halving.Halving event is coming but we we are also in troubled fighting for life and death as coronavirus hits us. Its gonna be a rough year for crypto again. I do hope that halving could help but we'll not expect much for it. I do believe that this gonna be over soon and the market starts to recover but of course, it won't be instant and it takes months.
Im not expecting that much in talks of halving event but this is where everybody is focusing on and do still hope that this event would give out some light on this declining market.
I agree into your sentiment which this isnt the right time for investment but pretty sure that whales did already make their move on accumulating cheap coins when they are still on their lowest low.
We do see atleast some small increase but we know that this market can surprise us anytime.
I wonder why people aren't buying since the price is a bit cheap but I think some are already buying that's why Bitcoin suddenly hit $7,100 but it doesn't last that long though since it dropped already to $6,800 again.
April 01, 2020, 06:12:42 PM
Whales manipulation is about to end soon...I miss how they play the market through hypes (they are gone already).
Halving event is coming but we we are also in troubled fighting for life and death as coronavirus hits us. Its gonna be a rough year for crypto again. I do hope that halving could help but we'll not expect much for it. I do believe that this gonna be over soon and the market starts to recover but of course, it won't be instant and it takes months.
Well, you should wait and you will see them after this pandemic. The market is a bit sideways you might be surprise if it would start to rise as you didn't expect it. But then again there's no reason for it to suddenly rise since the world is in crisis and people are having a hard time to get the money to move here and there due to the lockdown. Bitcoin halving is fast approaching I wonder what could be the price before and after the halving.Halving event is coming but we we are also in troubled fighting for life and death as coronavirus hits us. Its gonna be a rough year for crypto again. I do hope that halving could help but we'll not expect much for it. I do believe that this gonna be over soon and the market starts to recover but of course, it won't be instant and it takes months.
Im not expecting that much in talks of halving event but this is where everybody is focusing on and do still hope that this event would give out some light on this declining market.
I agree into your sentiment which this isnt the right time for investment but pretty sure that whales did already make their move on accumulating cheap coins when they are still on their lowest low.
We do see atleast some small increase but we know that this market can surprise us anytime.
April 01, 2020, 06:09:19 PM
This year could be different from the other halving because, many people are expecting the price of Bitcoin to go up due to the halving especially when there is a high possibility for Bitcoin to set a new all time high this year or the next. In addition, the current pandemic could support greatly the upcoming rally because, of the impending demand due to the quarantine for the outbreak.
But, as long as the pandemic is still at large, stock markets could still be down making the standing of Bitcoin low and might not break the barrier of $7,000 value next month.
But, as long as the pandemic is still at large, stock markets could still be down making the standing of Bitcoin low and might not break the barrier of $7,000 value next month.
We are facing a big crisis right now, it's different compared to the past, this is the worst crisis I have experience in my life, people can't operate their business and they can't go to work, the result will be the economic collapse.
One big reason for the pump is the FOMO, with people struggling with their finances, it's hard to expect a bull run at this time.
This is true however, go to google trends and the search term "buy stocks" is actually pretty high. Basically more search interest than in 2008-2009 recession. Even though people aren't working, there are many that got tons of money in their savings accounts and they want to get a good deal.
With bitcoin its no different. Its halving is approaching so less supply and with the fed printing money, there is going to be huge inflation and so makes bitcoin pretty attractive to those new investors. All it would take is some catalyst like breaking 2019 high or breaking the ATH and that would get the retail to flow in.
I would like to see that new ATH soon, yes, people will certainly consider buying crypto it will only rise as adoption increases.
Thanks for sharing the info about google trend, I haven't check it, I only saw how the stocks are down significantly at the moment.
Those downfall will lead to a huge buys after the pandemic ends and its good decision to buy now while people are in panic but I'm also doubting to see those things regarding on ATH since we cannot tell on what will be the outcome on future since people are in starting phase again, but there's still a hope since halving still ongoing to come.
Halving would bring the price bullish but we don't know when the pandemic will be over, that's the big hindrance and if we like to know the best price to buy, that was when bitcoin dump to $4,000, now it has recovered already but still this price is a good buy.
If bitcoin would at least rise $12k by the end of the year, then this should already bring us good profit.
April 01, 2020, 05:26:45 PM
Whales manipulation is about to end soon...I miss how they play the market through hypes (they are gone already).
Halving event is coming but we we are also in troubled fighting for life and death as coronavirus hits us. Its gonna be a rough year for crypto again. I do hope that halving could help but we'll not expect much for it. I do believe that this gonna be over soon and the market starts to recover but of course, it won't be instant and it takes months.
Well, you should wait and you will see them after this pandemic. The market is a bit sideways you might be surprise if it would start to rise as you didn't expect it. But then again there's no reason for it to suddenly rise since the world is in crisis and people are having a hard time to get the money to move here and there due to the lockdown. Bitcoin halving is fast approaching I wonder what could be the price before and after the halving. Halving event is coming but we we are also in troubled fighting for life and death as coronavirus hits us. Its gonna be a rough year for crypto again. I do hope that halving could help but we'll not expect much for it. I do believe that this gonna be over soon and the market starts to recover but of course, it won't be instant and it takes months.
April 01, 2020, 05:12:07 PM
Whales manipulation is about to end soon...I miss how they play the market through hypes (they are gone already).
Halving event is coming but we we are also in troubled fighting for life and death as coronavirus hits us. Its gonna be a rough year for crypto again. I do hope that halving could help but we'll not expect much for it. I do believe that this gonna be over soon and the market starts to recover but of course, it won't be instant and it takes months.
Halving event is coming but we we are also in troubled fighting for life and death as coronavirus hits us. Its gonna be a rough year for crypto again. I do hope that halving could help but we'll not expect much for it. I do believe that this gonna be over soon and the market starts to recover but of course, it won't be instant and it takes months.
April 01, 2020, 12:53:59 PM
I am not entirely sure if we will go back to "oh there was halving let me invest" levels all that easily. Sure the pandemic will pass and yes bitcoin price will go up for sure, there is no doubt in my mind that in 2021 we will peak to a higher price for sure. However, people are forgetting that maybe it will not actually go up as much as you imagine it might? Or at least not as quickly as you think it will?
Pandemic may stay around and lock us down to our homes probably for another few months, by this summer it will probably start to get better and when it comes to September-October months we will probably be able to walk around like nothing happened, but even after that for a few months or so people will not suddenly start thinking about investment, they will probably first think about themselves and spend some freely outside then start to think about investments.
Pandemic may stay around and lock us down to our homes probably for another few months, by this summer it will probably start to get better and when it comes to September-October months we will probably be able to walk around like nothing happened, but even after that for a few months or so people will not suddenly start thinking about investment, they will probably first think about themselves and spend some freely outside then start to think about investments.
April 01, 2020, 07:18:33 AM
This year could be different from the other halving because, many people are expecting the price of Bitcoin to go up due to the halving especially when there is a high possibility for Bitcoin to set a new all time high this year or the next. In addition, the current pandemic could support greatly the upcoming rally because, of the impending demand due to the quarantine for the outbreak.
But, as long as the pandemic is still at large, stock markets could still be down making the standing of Bitcoin low and might not break the barrier of $7,000 value next month.
But, as long as the pandemic is still at large, stock markets could still be down making the standing of Bitcoin low and might not break the barrier of $7,000 value next month.
We are facing a big crisis right now, it's different compared to the past, this is the worst crisis I have experience in my life, people can't operate their business and they can't go to work, the result will be the economic collapse.
One big reason for the pump is the FOMO, with people struggling with their finances, it's hard to expect a bull run at this time.
This is true however, go to google trends and the search term "buy stocks" is actually pretty high. Basically more search interest than in 2008-2009 recession. Even though people aren't working, there are many that got tons of money in their savings accounts and they want to get a good deal.
With bitcoin its no different. Its halving is approaching so less supply and with the fed printing money, there is going to be huge inflation and so makes bitcoin pretty attractive to those new investors. All it would take is some catalyst like breaking 2019 high or breaking the ATH and that would get the retail to flow in.
I would like to see that new ATH soon, yes, people will certainly consider buying crypto it will only rise as adoption increases.
Thanks for sharing the info about google trend, I haven't check it, I only saw how the stocks are down significantly at the moment.
Those downfall will lead to a huge buys after the pandemic ends and its good decision to buy now while people are in panic but I'm also doubting to see those things regarding on ATH since we cannot tell on what will be the outcome on future since people are in starting phase again, but there's still a hope since halving still ongoing to come.
April 01, 2020, 06:35:23 AM
This is true however, go to google trends and the search term "buy stocks" is actually pretty high. Basically more search interest than in 2008-2009 recession. Even though people aren't working, there are many that got tons of money in their savings accounts and they want to get a good deal.
With bitcoin its no different. Its halving is approaching so less supply and with the fed printing money, there is going to be huge inflation and so makes bitcoin pretty attractive to those new investors. All it would take is some catalyst like breaking 2019 high or breaking the ATH and that would get the retail to flow in.
It seems to me that today there are a lot of factors that can affect the decrease or increase in cryptocurrency prices. In any case, today many investors are looking for alternative sources of investment, which is why the cryptocurrency market attracts more and more attention. In addition, every time a halving is carried out, situations happen in which it is very difficult to track the effect of dividing the reward for miners by half on the price of bitcoin. In 2016, the cryptocurrency market was influenced by increased investor interest, and in external conditions, the coronavirus pandemic also affects all areas of the financial and economic spheres of human activity. therefore, it is very difficult to specifically determine the effects of halving if the cryptocurrency market is currently responding to other annoyances. With bitcoin its no different. Its halving is approaching so less supply and with the fed printing money, there is going to be huge inflation and so makes bitcoin pretty attractive to those new investors. All it would take is some catalyst like breaking 2019 high or breaking the ATH and that would get the retail to flow in.
April 01, 2020, 05:34:20 AM
This year could be different from the other halving because, many people are expecting the price of Bitcoin to go up due to the halving especially when there is a high possibility for Bitcoin to set a new all time high this year or the next. In addition, the current pandemic could support greatly the upcoming rally because, of the impending demand due to the quarantine for the outbreak.
But, as long as the pandemic is still at large, stock markets could still be down making the standing of Bitcoin low and might not break the barrier of $7,000 value next month.
But, as long as the pandemic is still at large, stock markets could still be down making the standing of Bitcoin low and might not break the barrier of $7,000 value next month.
We are facing a big crisis right now, it's different compared to the past, this is the worst crisis I have experience in my life, people can't operate their business and they can't go to work, the result will be the economic collapse.
One big reason for the pump is the FOMO, with people struggling with their finances, it's hard to expect a bull run at this time.
This is true however, go to google trends and the search term "buy stocks" is actually pretty high. Basically more search interest than in 2008-2009 recession. Even though people aren't working, there are many that got tons of money in their savings accounts and they want to get a good deal.
With bitcoin its no different. Its halving is approaching so less supply and with the fed printing money, there is going to be huge inflation and so makes bitcoin pretty attractive to those new investors. All it would take is some catalyst like breaking 2019 high or breaking the ATH and that would get the retail to flow in.
I would like to see that new ATH soon, yes, people will certainly consider buying crypto it will only rise as adoption increases.
Thanks for sharing the info about google trend, I haven't check it, I only saw how the stocks are down significantly at the moment.
April 01, 2020, 03:43:06 AM
The price of Bitcoin is not often exposed to the pump due to halving.
I believe that halving can well raise the price in a zone of a neutral situation, but not now.
A global crisis has begun in the world, but not everyone is aware of it. Also, do not lose sight of a pandemic.
At this time, even halving does not make a pump.
I believe that halving can well raise the price in a zone of a neutral situation, but not now.
A global crisis has begun in the world, but not everyone is aware of it. Also, do not lose sight of a pandemic.
At this time, even halving does not make a pump.
About the pandemic crises, you are right, but during the crises, bitcoin had fallen o $3800 and had increased to $6700. Now, the price of bitcoin is $6300. These are usaul happenings of bitcojn price fluctualtion. The pandemic will not last for long anymore and world will see a way to fight it. People will still think about the halving and invest.
The crises affected the price 80% indirectly, due to panic that the price was fallen. So, bitcoin is not reducing again for now and expect that the people that gain in the last bit I in price fall will still invest to gain again.
About the halving effect on price valuation, I said it can not have significant direct effect, the significant effect will be indirect and will be due to whales maniohlations and retail invesrors investment due to anticipations.
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