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legendary
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September 16, 2011, 07:06:47 PM
I don't know whether this has been mentioned, but Bruce just made a new "better" forum (bitcoinscene).
The first post is by a user called "Penis."  How appropriate.
edit: oh damn it was the 4th post Tongue

Says that other forum is started by Kevin, the guy who ended up with $12,000 of MtGox's money after the hack in June, and was claiming he should keep the money because it was MtGox's screw up, and he got it fair and square. What ever happed to that situation with Kevin/Toasty, anyway?
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bitcoin hundred-aire
September 16, 2011, 06:08:57 PM
I don't know whether this has been mentioned, but Bruce just made a new "better" forum (bitcoinscene).
The first post is by a user called "Penis."  How appropriate.
edit: oh damn it was the 4th post Tongue
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September 16, 2011, 06:05:49 PM
In another Bruce update for you fans

http://elbitcoin.org/cual-es-el-estatus-legal-de-bitcoin/

translated from spanish

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What is the legal status of Bitcoin? - Interview with Matt Wagner Bruce Hutchins

by Majamalu on 15/09/2011 in MEDIA , OPINION
Spanish translation of excerpts highlights of the interview with Matt Wagner Bruce Hutchins , the first lawyer Bitcoin, in episode 44 of The Bitcoin Show - issued by OnlyOneTV on September 8, 2011:

Bruce Wagner: The legal implications of Bitcoin are so complex and fascinating as its technical aspects - although in very different ways: one is extremely logical and the other is extremely legal ... [laughs].

Matt Hutchins: Well, let's say the legal aspect has its own logic. I feel a great admiration for Gavin and his entire technical team are making a great contribution to the community ... in fact the Internet as a whole, to develop this technology we call Bitcoin. Every new technology has legal implications. I'm not here to talk about particular applications of existing laws to Bitcoin, but rather to explain why some people should consider these legal issues from the perspective of law, and consider legal advice.

BW: We need to know many things about it. (...) We have old laws can not be easily applied to new technologies, especially something as revolutionary as Bitcoin.


MH: (...) When dealing with legal questions, we must take into account all the possible answers, and think through all the words we use, how they can be interpreted. What perspective can outweigh?, What perspective can serve my interests? ... What will most likely be taken by either party? - Such as a prosecutor or a regulator. We can not ignore that.

BW: The same term can have a very different meaning in the street and in court. So for example Bitcoin can be defined by many as virtual money, but what is money?, Is it virtual? That bitcoin.org Bitcoin say that money does not mean it fits the legal definition of money. And even from the legal point of view there may be differences between states, countries, etc.

MH: Right. If you look at the French court case - which has generated much interest in the community Bitcoin - one of the aspects under discussion is whether or not it is Bitcoin money. Because if it is considered money, falls under a regulatory regime, but if it is merely an intangible form of property, then you will apply other regulations.

As a store of value one can actually use anything as long as one considers that this will preserve value over time. Gold is generally accepted as a means of preserving the value, but as a medium of exchange is not really very practical. So, for their resemblance to gold, is likely to Bitcoin also has an important role as a means of preserving the value. But in many ways be said to be better than gold because it is very easy to transfer, it is potentially safer (just a good password to secure possession of bitcoins) is a great facilitator of transactions (although the economic infrastructure is under development, and many people are reluctant to spend bitcoins just for his optimism about the future of the system).

One of the most important aspects of the legal definition of money is it has to have a national identity. Bitcoin has never been used as currency, but do not rule out the possibility, under certain ciscunstancias, a country could abolish its own currency and adopt Bitcoin as national currency. How would that affect the legal status of Bitcoin?, Would it change from such a decision by a government?

One reason could be considered a Bitcoin as a form of money is that exchange markets exist, and therefore in practice bitcoins are treated as money. (...)

Unlike most commodities tangible, the bitcoins are electronic, have virtually no transaction cost, fungible, extremely divisible, and can be exchanged quickly through large amounts of monetary signs through the Internet, paving the conversion between currencies.

BW: And cancel the geographical distances and political boundaries. It is so extraordinary ... Let's see, what other ways can be defined Bitcoin?

MH: There are many categories in which Bitcoin would fit, and are not all mutually exclusive. Could be characterized as a title or value. I think it is wrong because they have securities or corporate issuer. In my opinion it looks more like a commodity ; bitcoins own is like owning an amount of carbon stored in a container. This ownership is transferable. If you own shares of, say, Microsoft, the value of what you have will depend on future earnings of the company, ie the decisions of their principals, market conditions, etc.. There are no future gains in terms of bitcoins; the bitcoins itself generated no profits will be distributed among the owners of bitcoins (a bitcoin today will be a bitcoin in 10 years).

Bitcoin regards as a store of value (as the typical legal definition) ... a definition seems attractive, but Bitcoin not involve a contract - based on which a claim may in the future value. Bitcoins Have not imply a relationship with an issuer.

I would say Bitcoin is a commodity -mail. But even this definition does not close at all. You do not have a number of bitcoins it, have a rather equivalent bitcoin have the authority to transfer ownership of that bitcoin to another person, who really do not get a bitcoin but - in turn - the authority to transfer ownership that bitcoin. This forms a chain: the chain of blocks. In other words, all one has is a private key that allows you to sign a transaction (transferring ownership of bitcoins). It is this key which has a fluctuating value. (...)
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September 16, 2011, 05:52:22 PM
Despite what some people say about him, I still think Bruce has done a lot of good for the Bitcoin community.  Maybe I'm just naive, but I don't really think he is behind the MyBitcoin theft/scam/loss.

Agreed
legendary
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September 16, 2011, 01:25:49 PM
From the bitcoin show episode 47

Quote from: Bruce Wagner
The public's memory is about 2 and a half weeks.. that's all.

Well that's convenient for him :/



I wish Bruce and Yifu would shut up sometimes,
but the show overall wasn't so bad.. Stefan Thomas and Gavin Andresen are interesting guests.
legendary
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September 15, 2011, 08:26:10 PM
Posted to the other forum today (just copy/pasting from digest E-mail)
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Topic: POS needed Yesterday

Bruce Wagner <[email protected]> Sep 15 08:34AM -0400 ^

Yesterday I was contacted by a major national chain restaurant with more than 500 locations nationwide.

The guy said, "Your show was an inspiration, and the primary reason we now accept bitcoins."

WOW!

They want my help in setting them up to accept Bitcoin ASAP.

They plan to install Bitcoin POS in about 3 locations, as a test, THIS WEEKEND!

Only Love,

Bruce


If anyone believes this tripe, I have some prime land in Arizona to sell to all of you - at prime BTC value!

Any specific reason you're trying to sell it?


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September 15, 2011, 08:18:51 PM
Posted to the other forum today (just copy/pasting from digest E-mail)
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Topic: POS needed Yesterday

Bruce Wagner <[email protected]> Sep 15 08:34AM -0400 ^

Yesterday I was contacted by a major national chain restaurant with more than 500 locations nationwide.

The guy said, "Your show was an inspiration, and the primary reason we now accept bitcoins."

WOW!

They want my help in setting them up to accept Bitcoin ASAP.

They plan to install Bitcoin POS in about 3 locations, as a test, THIS WEEKEND!

Only Love,

Bruce


If anyone believes this tripe, I have some prime land in Arizona to sell to all of you - at prime BTC value!
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September 15, 2011, 09:50:44 AM
Despite what some people say about him, I still think Bruce has done a lot of good for the Bitcoin community.  Maybe I'm just naive, but I don't really think he is behind the MyBitcoin theft/scam/loss.
legendary
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September 15, 2011, 08:54:26 AM
Posted to the other forum today (just copy/pasting from digest E-mail)
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Topic: POS needed Yesterday

Bruce Wagner <[email protected]> Sep 15 08:34AM -0400 ^

Yesterday I was contacted by a major national chain restaurant with more than 500 locations nationwide.

The guy said, "Your show was an inspiration, and the primary reason we now accept bitcoins."

WOW!

They want my help in setting them up to accept Bitcoin ASAP.

They plan to install Bitcoin POS in about 3 locations, as a test, THIS WEEKEND!

Only Love,

Bruce
legendary
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September 14, 2011, 10:59:00 PM
Is Wagner still even doing this?  I thought he was in hiding.

He just stays off the forum

http://twitter.com/brucewagner is one place he is active.  He also started (or at least has participated in) a Google group about Bitcoin, I forget the title, but have it emailed to me in digest form.

Good or bad about Bruce, he is very much involved in Bitcoin and I wouldn't expect the many connections and progress he has made to slow him down because people online released his information and spread it to other people online.

I just watched his hour long show on alpaca socks.  Or parts of it.  He's pumping a new on-line wallet service believe it or not!  One of the SA guys pointed out on a different thread that he is due in court in a few days, presumably as fallout from his mortgage scamming operation.  Wonder if _that_ will slow him down.  The SA guys claims that the records show him to have skipped his last few court appearances, but I could not see that conclusively in the records the guy pointed to.

I'm still waiting for the footage from 'inside Mt Gox'.  They, the bonus guys, and the 'upscale Chipotele' guy, still seem to have a cozy relationship with Bruce judging by the sponserships.  When I got interested in BitCoin Bruce seemed to have big wood for Tradehill and even seemed to deprecate Mt Gox to some extent.  Now it seems like Tradehill is non-grata on his shows for some reason.  Sometimes I wish I were a fly on various walls.
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September 14, 2011, 04:25:04 PM
Is Wagner still even doing this?  I thought he was in hiding.

He just stays off the forum

http://twitter.com/brucewagner is one place he is active.  He also started (or at least has participated in) a Google group about Bitcoin, I forget the title, but have it emailed to me in digest form.

Good or bad about Bruce, he is very much involved in Bitcoin and I wouldn't expect the many connections and progress he has made to slow him down because people online released his information and spread it to other people online.
legendary
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September 14, 2011, 03:59:46 PM
Is Wagner still even doing this?  I thought he was in hiding.

He was away in Tokyo for a week, and said he is still working on editing those shows before he'll post them, but he's still releasing new shows back home in NY, and apparently still has sponsors. Don't know if they are paying him.
legendary
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September 14, 2011, 11:40:52 AM
Is Wagner still even doing this?  I thought he was in hiding.
legendary
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September 14, 2011, 07:58:56 AM
ok Bruce, watched a bit of the new show, David Forster seems to be a cool guy... however the VIDEO ASPECT RATIO IS STILL MESSED UP.

Are you use it's not just you? I'm not noticing anything wrong. Maybe it's just a BIT off and I can't tell?
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September 14, 2011, 07:27:22 AM
ok Bruce, watched a bit of the new show, David Forster seems to be a cool guy... however the VIDEO ASPECT RATIO IS STILL MESSED UP.
Instead of complaining and moving on, this time I am going to try to help.

From: http://www.google.com/support/youtube/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=146402


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To add formatting tags to a video file you're about to upload:

    Sign into your YouTube account, and click Upload from the top of the homepage.
    On the next page, click Upload video then select the file you'd like to upload from your computer.
    As the video file's uploading, you'll see the Tag category below the upload progress bar. Depending on how you'd like to format your video, type one of the following tags into the Tags section:

        Tag: yt:crop=16:9
        (Zooms in on the 16:9 area, removes windowboxing)

        Tag: yt:stretch=16:9
        (Fixes anamorphic content by scaling to 16:9)

        Tag: yt:stretch=4:3
        (Fixes 720x480 content that is the wrong aspect ratio by scaling to 4:3)

    Once your video uploads to the site, it should be formatted according to the formatting tag you added while the video was uploading.

To add formatting tags to a video you've already uploaded:

    Sign into your YouTube account.
    Click your username located in the top right-hand corner of the YouTube homepage. A drop-down menu will appear; click My Videos.
    Click the Edit button below the video you wish to add formatting tags to.
    Depending on how you'd like to format your video, type one of the following tags into the Tags section on the left:

        Tag: yt:crop=16:9
        (zooms in on the 16:9 area, removes windowboxing)

        Tag: yt:stretch=16:9
        (fixes anamorphic content by scaling to 16:9)

        Tag: yt:stretch=4:3
        (fixes 720x480 content that is the wrong aspect ratio by scaling to 4:3)

        Tag: yt:quality=high
        (default to a high quality stream, depending on availability)

For the love what whatever thing you value most, please fix your aspect ratio.
hero member
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September 14, 2011, 12:21:02 AM
I just read this whole thread through and... I'm still not convinced Bruce is guilty of anything. Foolish? Maybe. Misguided? Occasionally. But a bad person? I refuse to believe it. He's always been so open kind and generous to me...

Perhaps its because of your username?
newbie
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September 13, 2011, 07:25:07 PM
Bruce Wagner is so full of shit, he's practically busting the seams of his pants. It must be rough knowing that your dream is crashing all around you.

Fuck that pole bouncer for lying to every one.

I feel betrayed.
newbie
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September 13, 2011, 04:46:02 PM
Bruce doesn't want anyone to know he gives a crap we're discussing Bold Funding when he really sees the future of his show unraveling before him.
legendary
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September 13, 2011, 01:49:27 PM
..he sure does seem shifty lately

I agree, and I've noticed it since the beginning.  Anyone who is familiar with body language "tells" should be able to get a read on Bruce as being deceptive or hiding something.  Ever notice how many times he touches his nose when talking, especially when he seems to be 'embellishing' the truth?

what do you think he knows?
what do you think he going to do?
what do you think he has done?
newbie
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September 13, 2011, 01:37:40 PM
..he sure does seem shifty lately

I agree, and I've noticed it since the beginning.  Anyone who is familiar with body language "tells" should be able to get a read on Bruce as being deceptive or hiding something.  Ever notice how many times he touches his nose when talking, especially when he seems to be 'embellishing' the truth?
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