Topic: The Cycling Thread - page 4. (Read 1567 times)

I wouldn't take this as an obstacle, but as an opportunity Because if it's difficult, not a lot of people can do it and you can create an edge by putting in the work.
I don't think Cycling is that hard to predict - or not harder than any other sports - and by following the races, you will gain good knowledge about the different riders and their strenghts and weaknesses very fast. By searching for extra information and developing some gut feeling, you can then make money with betting on Cycling. But it's very time consuming and not everyone has this time.


Yes, thats a problem with individual sports in short-term, but not if you think longterm, because everything evens out then. Over the course of thousands of bets, you will lose the same amount of bets due to your rider crashing as you will win bets this way. Unless you are a really unlucky person (which everyone always thinks he is )

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As a good tradition, we also have the first Doping investigation of this years Tour with Arkea-Samsic. Some doping utensils and meds were found in the team hotel. Dayer Quintana is in the centre of this investigation apart from some team staff. And if Dayer is in the mix, you can't help but think that Nairo is involved as well and it might explain his poor performance at this years TdF, i.e. that they had to stop doing it at some point during the race.

But anyway, I still think that 95% of the riders are doped and it's not relevant for betting purposes in the end. I just hate when people/media talk about a clean peloton and everyone (including the pros) is surprised and outraged, when something comes to light. It's just so obvious......

Team sports are probably more reliable than individual sports, because you spread the risk of errors. If one player in a football team makes an error, it can certainly have a negative effect, but not so much as if a cyclist makes an error. The risk is spread. And the problem of individual errors becomes more extreme with how dangerous the sport is - if a runner trips up, they can get back on their feet and try to rejoin the pack... but if a cyclist crashes, there's a reasonable chance that they are out of the race entirely. If we add in the inherent uncertainty in cycling, things like mass pile-ups, the person in front of you crashes or does something stupid and you pile into them... or even just the chaos of racing over wet ground or cobbles... one tiny error at high speed can mean the end of your chances... and this isn't the case in a lot of other sports.

As of now I never thought about gambling on the cycling competitions since I find it very difficult to predict the racing results. It sucks to see the long marathon of cycling and you barely understand whose running forward and backward. Lolz. 

I have recently started with the cycling fever and it is all out of the fear of covid to be honest! You may ask what the heck is that? Honestly I had little time for exercise and to boost the immunity an exercise workout is mandatory on daily basis. This led me to research best possible way to workout and here I am, cycling! Never had much interest in it, but since the time I started doing it early in the morning I was so amused with the energy that it drives through our body.

I tried betting on the bet365 and william hills but my poor judgment about the cyclist never gave me good results so always pulled off.

Never though I will see whole thread on bitcointalk.

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I may not be talking relevant to the Tours and competitions you guys talking about, but thought to express myself.

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It was an interesting Tour De France this year with a surprising ending! I thought that Roglic would even win some time against Pogacar in the TT, but guess I was wrong  .
Pogacar deserved the win, especially as his team was not able to really support him.

I "hate" this stage as well and find it super uninteresting. But it's a tradtition to have it neutralized until the riders enter/see Paris to have some celebrations, drink some champagne on their bikes, talk to opponents and all those things. They have this final stage since 1990 and though it's boring, it gives some incentive for the sprinters to keep going and not leaving the Tour early - thats part of it why the organizers stick with it.

In 1989 was the last time when this was not sprint and they had a TT back then which featured the drama between Greg LeMond and Laurent Fignon. I would love to see the 21st stage being a TT in Paris again; just imagine yesterdays TT would have been the final stage.....amazing ending. But won't happen in the near future and will stay a stage with a sprint royale on the Champs-Élysées.

LOL   you take me for a crying baby?
No I didn't bet anything on him.

It just shows that this final stage in Paris is useless and should be changed. Maybe a longer distance could be more interesting or another town.

What a crazy TT ! Of course now people are talking about doping... But I thought you could quite see that aside from physical form, technique, strength, that both riders have, psychology played a role. Pogacar was very motivated, and once he knew he was making time, he was just on another planet, that will probably remain the TT of his life.

On the other hand Roglic lost composure and smelt defeat.


So are you losing a lot of money if Roglic doesn't win ?

I think the last stage should be like any other, but it isn't so, and hasn't been for a long time. Just before his loss Roglic was saying in the newspapers that he wanted to be more known and liked by the French public, well, I don't think breaking convention would do that.

If he was 99% sure to win the Tour by attacking, then OK, but the stage is flat, it's bound to end in a sprint, and thus there is no way to make back the time. He had weeks to build a bigger time buffer, he should have done it.

Wow, there are a lot of members too right here are loved cycling too. I'm from in to the country who is only few people are supporting the use the cycling and I'm being one of the people who is just wanna try to ride on the Tour de France or just watching the game, it gives a different hype to my self because those are the competition of different members who has a different capability to win the game. I'm planning soon try to come into another country but right now I need to earn more money and wait for the covid will gone because some of the countries forbidden the transportation to avoid spreading the covid.

I only have right now a mountain bike because I love to see falls and mountain, also I have a road bike but I use this in few times because only few of my friends are available.

If Roglic doesn't try to do anything today, it will be an insult toward the competition and the spectators(and bettors). He will act like a loser. Shame on him.  

It's been a weird Tour this year, with the Covid disruption and the uncertainty at the normally ultra-professional Ineos machine. I don't think we expected Bernal to crack in the way that he did. Of course if Thomas and Froome had been there and in top condition, the story could have been very different. I don't know if it was overconfidence based on years of domination, and Ineos just thought they could send any old team out and still destroy the opposition... but obviously that was not what happened this year. Perhaps Bernal wasn't able to cope with being the sole focus of the team, and this combined with the fact that their team was weaker than usual led to the failure. Either way, with Froome leaving this year feels like it's a bit of a reset for Ineos. Perhaps they could have won with a stronger team, perhaps not, but it does seem like the dominant force may be crumbling a bit.

No, that is something that is not "allowed" in the TdF - you don't attack the yellow jersey on the Paris stage Maybe if it's <10sec it would be ok with the peloton, but with 59sec Pogacar has basically 21 teams at his disposal today, if Jumbo tries something. And his team is weak for the mountain stages, but on a flat stage like today it's still ok, although they lost 2 guys. Pogacar can only not win the TdF this year, if he crashes and dnf's, but this is very unlikely.

Jumbo just rode a tactically shitty race in the last days, where you had the impression Pogacar actually belongs to the team as well. If your opponent has no team support in the mountains, you have to be a bit smarter to tire him and/or make him work.

Yes it's an incredible twist. But Pogacar hasn't a strong team, unlike Roglic. So I think Roglic with his team will try to make something today even if it's almost hopeless.

What just happened?  

I swear this was the best TT i've seen recently, maybe ever, so much drama for the tour and stage win, top3, polka dot, absolutely insane.
One bad day and you lose everything, after you and your team have completely dominated throughout these three weeks.
Congrats to the young Slovenian, he did it! He will be the first rider since Merckx to win the yellow jersey, polka dot and the jersey for under 25 in the same tour/year.
Porte also had a great day and made the podium, i'm really happy for him!

look at W. Van Aert and Dumoulin's faces: https://i.ibb.co/17RHcjH/dfzhdhf.jpg (image source: https://www.eurosportplayer.com/)

hehe that gotta hurt...

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That's not how it works, the final stage is always a parade, there will be only champagne toasts and pictures taken between the riders, and of course a Champs-Élysées sprint. Jumbo-Visma and Roglic will be chilling in the main group, licking their wounds...
 

What a TT from Pogacar, dear lord, this was so impressive But Roglic was a bit off today as well. Still this unbelievable and I never thought this could happen, just like anyone else in here.

Porte also with a super strong race today. These mountain(eous) TT's often produce some surprise results.


Schachmann did a very good TT, but Oliveira super disappointing, thought he would Top10 here. At least Kragh did his job, although it was close, only 12sec faster than TdG.

Oliveira before Schachmann is a good bet, placed this bet also!
I don't like to bet against De Gendt, he hasn't really done anything this year in the TDF, but he can always surprise and even finish in the top 3 today.

I always like to bet on ITT's, since you can follow your bets so easily. And ITT's in general are exciting to watch, also from an aesthetic point of view; a good TTer is just a beauty to watch.

Today we will have an ITT with a (long) mountain top finish, which is very rare in cycling, so there is some uncertainty in the markets, although we got a pretty clear picture about the riders and what they are capable of atm, since we could watch them on a daily basis in the last 3 weeks.

Oliveira tb Schachmann @1.83 7/10
Schachmann is a good TTer, but he broke his collarbone just before the TdF and he is not in top form. Oliveira is often invisible in the peloton on normal stages - one of so many unsung heroes. But when an ITT is scheduled, that is his time to shine. He did very well on a similar course in the World Championships 2017 in Bergen and I expect him to do very good today - a day where he can ride for himself and doesn't have to take care of his captains.

Kragh Andersen tb De Gendt @2.37 3/10
Normally I don't like to bet on a rider, who just had a huge win the other day. But Kragh said he will go full throttle and his form is amazing at the moment. TdG was a bit disappointing during the Tour, his form just isn't there. He can be an exceptional TTer, but today is maybe a bit too hard for him anyway.

Yes the competition is already dead since almost one week. Primoz will win the race in 2 days at Paris.
He only need to be a little bit careful and to not fall.

Well you were right, but the scenario was different  . Nice race by the wan and nice win of Kragh Andersen.
Tomorrow the time trial, just saw a h2h of Van Aert vs Dumoulin @1.9. Given the form of Van Aert, I think he will be in the top 2 (before or after Roglic). Anyone else will place some bets?

I don't think that Porte will be able to finish 3rd given the course of the race tomorrow.

The yellow jersey race is pretty much over, it's been over for at least two weeks now, Jumbo-Visma are just better than everyone else, so is Roglic.

Sagan has to settle with either 2nd or 3rd place for the green jersey, after winning 7 of the 8 previous editions, but not this year...

The polka dot jersey is still up for grabs, Pogacar is just two points behind Carapaz and with 10pts given at the final climb tomorrow at La Planche des Belles Filles, anything can happen.

Richie Porte has a chance to finish third, he is way better than Miguel Angel Lopez at individual time trial but can he make up for 1'40 deficit? If it was longer TT with no climbs, i would probably say yes, but the one that we have tomorrow, we are unlikely to see a change in top3.

In this part of the world, Latin American cycling is dominated by Colombians, or at least they still live off the fame of the golden years that have had great cyclists on the Tour de France such as the always remembered "Lucho" Herrera.

But Today Richard Carapaz is news in the region when he became the first Ecuadorian cyclist to be the leader of the mountain. But this unprecedented fact seems to lose away the relevance with arrival of the two runners at the finish line today, also inededita (!'?)


Actually personally I do not know or remember something similar, and according to the narrators at least in a quick look at the past had not happened, but surely with a tour with so much history something similar happened.

Anyway, I have followed the tour filled with emotion as a spectator, but this result made "take a look" with the favorites to win the second most precious prize of the Tour de France as is the leader of the mountain.

I have read your post where you get bets on cycling, although my emotion in cycling disintegrates more like an avid spectator, than the emotion of betting, I think writing you I get the feeling that if I bet on a cyclist and the odds are not given To win, I would not mind ... in a betting for fun.

Anyway, thanks to your thread, Im  lively to write on the subject, in a career that no one can ignore, even for what the transmission in visual spectacle implies, peloton (the multi-colored caravan) and the beautiful landscapes that the Tour de France offers.

In that sense, although the photo of the two embracing cyclists takes or accompanies the headlines, I am left with this little moment crossing the stone road, moments before reaching the last points award awarded by the leadership of the mountain.

https://i.imgur.com/B6Wkg1E.gif
Source:ESPN
Official website of Tour de France 2020 / www.letour.fr

... "peloton" on the hunt...

https://i.imgur.com/cOZV6N1.gif
Source:ESPN
Official website of Tour de France 2020 / www.letour.fr