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Quote from: Lida93 on July 12, 2024, 10:42:41 AM

Let's be realistic, age has gotten a better part of Biden and he is not looking fit and energetic when compared to his opponents in this election. He has given his best and I feel the democrats would have taken his age into consideration before flagging him off as their candidate because this is really going on disadvantageous for them as a lot of voters from what have been reading online are questioning the situation.

Trump is a strategist. Even if Biden is younger, he wouldn't also have stood Trump. I remember years ago, when it was Trump and Hillary, Hillary was making some nice points, but at a time Trump left the debate and attacked the character behind the debate. He brought in the email scandal and threatened to jail Hillary, from there she started losing it. So, anyone who is willing to face Trump, should first think out of the box because he is dynamic and full of surprises.

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Quote from: Lida93 on July 12, 2024, 10:42:41 AM

Let's be realistic, age has gotten a better part of Biden and he is not looking fit and energetic when compared to his opponents in this election. He has given his best and I feel the democrats would have taken his age into consideration before flagging him off as their candidate because this is really going on disadvantageous for them as a lot of voters from what have been reading online are questioning the situation.

I think we all agree on this, except for Biden himself. The guy is an asshole if he thinks losing to Trump is OK as long as he gives his best. The entire world is on the line! Go take a nap.

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Quote from: EluguHcman on June 28, 2024, 01:43:32 AM

Quote from: Vod on June 27, 2024, 09:10:20 PM

I had to stop watching. Joe is losing it; he is reacting to Trump's lies instead of leading the debate. Nobody watching the debate is suddenly going to suddenly realize Trump is dishonest.

If he can not stay focus and stand focus on the debate then he is only acting sentimental with Trump.
Time to let him know the US needed a capacity leader who is in and out fitted to speak and stand for the people and not like running a personal goal of interests.

Although I am not following the news up but before this day we all know Trump is more agile and fitted than Biden.

The USA I knew isn't what am seeing throughout the Biden's administration it has been cold on world issues especially regarding to global security he has been more reactive than proactive. Some of us would agree that in the days of Barrack Obama and Trump the lingering conflict of Russia and Ukraine would have been a thing of the past by now.

Let's be realistic, age has gotten a better part of Biden and he is not looking fit and energetic when compared to his opponents in this election. He has given his best and I feel the democrats would have taken his age into consideration before flagging him off as their candidate because this is really going on disadvantageous for them as a lot of voters from what have been reading online are questioning the situation.

In the debate, Trump did what every opponent would have done in any debate... Taking advantage of the lapses of his contender, so I practically see nothing wrong with how Trump presented under that circumstance. I pray Americans get it right this time.

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Quote from: Vod on July 10, 2024, 10:44:28 PM

.... Anyone else can beat a wannabe dictator felon.

That is actually a good point and it is something I have seen in other places on the internet to be mentioned, Vod.
We are talking about the United States of a America, one of the most important countries on the planet and one of the candidates for the position of president is an actual convicted felon, that means the election is supposed to be a no-brainer, an easy win for whoever is against the convicted felon, but instead of that we see the opposing candidate is struggling to keep a minimum advantage against the convicted felon civily guilty of rapist.
To me is not only about what the other candidate has or does not have to offer to the people of a such beautiful country like the United States, it is more about the decadence of politics in that country.
In previous years (the 2000s) if a presidential candidate was guilty of defamation like Trump is or was indicted of a fraction of his crimes, it would have been translated to a end of their political career.

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I believe that Biden, even with the best intentions, cannot serve another four years - decline is exponential in your 80's. No one likes to take away the car keys, but usually the person losing the keys needs it to be forced upon them.

Biden is being so selfish by choosing to stay in the race. If he loses to Trump, he'll say he did his best so he feels proud. But his best, most mature thing to do, is to step down. Anyone else can beat a wannabe dictator felon.

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Quote from: Quickseller on June 28, 2024, 06:52:51 AM

According to "Dr." Jill, it was great that Joe Biden answered every question....Such a low bar lol

I watched the Biden: We finally beat Medicare and Trump says Biden 'doesn't even know what he's saying' videos. So yeah, it's a great achievement that he can even debate.

Quote from: legiteum on June 28, 2024, 09:47:38 AM

I didn't think the debate would change anything before the it happened and I don't think it will now.
Biden is old, and everybody knows that.
Trump is a criminal, and everybody knows that.
Biden will win because he's not Trump, not because he's superman.

Yep, but in previous elections, there wasn't any footage of Biden falling from stairs, bikes, etc.

The stairs and bikes are nothing compared to the frozen moments. He is a sick man and should resign giving us Kamala as the first women black and Indian preside now and to boot she is under 60 years old.

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Biden is a good man, it is a shame that he does not have the capacity to govern due to his age

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Quote from: BADecker on July 05, 2024, 04:26:23 AM

Quote from: be.open on July 05, 2024, 03:17:48 AM

Quote from: Saukiyakui on July 05, 2024, 03:11:48 AM

The debate was a tool to remove Biden, cleverly. Can you tell me who came up with the idea for them?

This debate was organized by the Democrats. They didn't even shoot themselves in the leg, but in the head.

But it shows that the Deep State has plans to run around anything that Trump might want to do. Or they wouldn't be wasting time on removing Biden.

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But I thought you said the deep state was the number one enemy of Donald Trump, since Trump wanted to destroy the deep state or something like it? Why on earth would the deep state to go along with Trump if Trump wants them destroyed?
To me it is more likely all this is just a miscalculation by someone within the campaign team of Joe Biden, who forgot Biden is not completely functional in some hours of the night and hence why the disastrous debate took place.

You know, you don't need to get out your way and call all the political thing you don't understand to be the "deep state's" bidding. Most of the times, the simplest explanation is the most accurate. After all, staff members are also human being, thus they can commit mistakes like this one.

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Quote from: Vod on June 27, 2024, 09:10:20 PM

I had to stop watching. Joe is losing it; he is reacting to Trump's lies instead of leading the debate. Nobody watching the debate is suddenly going to suddenly realize Trump is dishonest.

To be a strong politician in society or a country, one should be brave, outspoken, and dishonest in telling people sugar-coated words.

Trump has the mentioned qualities of a politician, but Biden on the other hand lacks such qualities. That's why the Democrats are not happy with Biden's performance in that debate. I don't know whether they will get Biden replaced because doesn't seem fit enough to contest the election with Trump. Americans don't need someone who's not agile and softhearted to rule them because they will make them appear weak in the eyes of other world powers.

Comes November election, it will be a hard time for American citizens to choose a dishonest and agile person like Trump or a cool Biden who lacks the willpower to rule the US again because of health challenges.

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Quote from: be.open on July 05, 2024, 03:17:48 AM

Quote from: Saukiyakui on July 05, 2024, 03:11:48 AM

The debate was a tool to remove Biden, cleverly. Can you tell me who came up with the idea for them?

This debate was organized by the Democrats. They didn't even shoot themselves in the leg, but in the head.

But it shows that the Deep State has plans to run around anything that Trump might want to do. Or they wouldn't be wasting time on removing Biden.

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Quote from: Saukiyakui on July 05, 2024, 03:11:48 AM

The debate was a tool to remove Biden, cleverly. Can you tell me who came up with the idea for them?

This debate was organized by the Democrats. They didn't even shoot themselves in the leg, but in the head.

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The debate was a tool to remove Biden, cleverly. Can you tell me who came up with the idea for them?

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Quote from: LTU_btc on July 03, 2024, 02:45:02 PM

Quote from: Franctoshi on July 03, 2024, 11:21:21 AM

Biden or any other candidate they will choose, I think the Democrats have lost it at the debate, since the leadership under Trump administration is way far better that what Americans are facing, it quite clear that thet would rather vote the devil they know than the Angel they do not know, if the Democrats were to replace president Joe Biden.

I'm wondering how many people changed their mind after watching debate. I think that still there is huge number of people who would still vote for Biden even knowing his current condition, rather than going for evil Trump.
Debate is place where only Trump can gain something. He just been in this business long enough - he knows how to talk and he says things that people want to hear. And it doesn't even matters that huge part of his words is lie. It matters how he present it, especially when his opponent doesn't looks confident at all.

I do not think this is just about the debate. The debate was simply the proof-of-life of the problem that many have been pointing out before. Biden is a great politician and has done a great service defeating Trump, but he cannot fight age like none of us can.

It was already a cause of concern and a point of attack for the Republicans and the fact that Kamala is not popular only made it worse. The debate itself does not change that much, it just makes is irrefutable.

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Quote from: Franctoshi on July 03, 2024, 11:21:21 AM

Biden or any other candidate they will choose, I think the Democrats have lost it at the debate, since the leadership under Trump administration is way far better that what Americans are facing, it quite clear that thet would rather vote the devil they know than the Angel they do not know, if the Democrats were to replace president Joe Biden.

I'm wondering how many people changed their mind after watching debate. I think that still there is huge number of people who would still vote for Biden even knowing his current condition, rather than going for evil Trump.
Debate is place where only Trump can gain something. He just been in this business long enough - he knows how to talk and he says things that people want to hear. And it doesn't even matters that huge part of his words is lie. It matters how he present it, especially when his opponent doesn't looks confident at all.

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Quote from: Franctoshi on July 03, 2024, 11:21:21 AM

Biden or any other candidate they will choose, I think the Democrats have lost it at the debate, since the leadership under Trump administration is way far better that what Americans are facing, it quite clear that thet would rather vote the devil they know than the Angel they do not know, if the Democrats were to replace president Joe Biden.

Keep in mind that unlike those who don't live in the USA, Americans actually know more about the candidates than this one debate. Trump is a convicted criminal and he wants to make abortion illegal. One bad night for Biden isn't going to change that. Voters aren't going to care (anymore than somebody wanting a criminal or wanting abortion to be illegal wouldn't care if Trump had a bad debate).

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Quote from: LTU_btc on July 01, 2024, 03:10:27 PM

Don't know how real is possibility that Democrats can make last minute change. But if the would do, no matter what they will choose, I feel that would be instant loss. It would be smaller name than Biden and also it would be showing weakness of your whole party - you don't change horses in midstream. I doubt that voters who are still not decided would accept such thing positively.

Biden or any other candidate they will choose, I think the Democrats have lost it at the debate, since the leadership under Trump administration is way far better that what Americans are facing, it quite clear that thet would rather vote the devil they know than the Angel they do not know, if the Democrats were to replace president Joe Biden.

Quote from: JeromeTash on June 29, 2024, 04:53:08 PM

I watched part of the debate and I asked myself, How did the "great" nation end up in such a mess. Out of millions of people across, are those the only two that have the vision to run for presidency or lead the Country?

Did you just forget about the corona virus event, it was used to get Trump out of the office and institute Joe Biden, and now that is almost four years after election, most of Americans have come to realize their mistakes by voting Joe or got disappointed by his performance.

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Quote from: be.open on July 03, 2024, 01:31:30 AM

Quote from: legiteum on July 03, 2024, 01:04:21 AM

If you don't think abortion is a super-big deal to Republicans you've been living under a rock.

I live in Russia, not under a rock. And from the outside, the confrontation between Republicans and Democrats in the United States looks much more fundamental, deeper and larger-scale than the confrontation between opponents and supporters of abortion, as you are trying to imagine here now.

Here in the USA, abortion is a very fundamental issue. This isn't the case in other countries where abortion is legal and they've long since settled this issue.

Besides abortion, the differences between the parties isn't that significant, ideologically speaking. Trump himself promises radical change because he is a criminal, but that's not because of any ideology.

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Quote from: be.open on July 03, 2024, 06:51:59 AM

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Quote from: be.open on July 03, 2024, 01:31:30 AM

Quote from: legiteum on July 03, 2024, 01:04:21 AM

If you don't think abortion is a super-big deal to Republicans you've been living under a rock.

I live in Russia, not under a rock. And from the outside, the confrontation between Republicans and Democrats in the United States looks much more fundamental, deeper and larger-scale than the confrontation between opponents and supporters of abortion, as you are trying to imagine here now.

It is no longer a problem. According to the Supreme Court Ruling the President is mostly immune from prosecution on official acts. I think that Biden should use Putin's modus- operandi - If someone dares to oppose, send him to Siberia until the guy "cools-off" the tantrum.

And it would now be all legal! No problem, no obstacle! And them you can go Trump on the civil service to make sure those pesky Civil Servants do not have so much winning when you ask them to break the law.

I am not sure that I understand correctly what exactly you want me to do, and most importantly, why.

Biden's problem is not that he miserably failed the debate and his probability of winning the upcoming election has dropped to 21%, while Trump's has risen to 59% (although this is of course a serious problem for his donors and supporters of the Democratic Party). Biden's problem is that he has rapidly progressing senile dementia or something like that. At the debate, he lost not only and not so much to Trump, but to himself in 2020. Biden is a good and very experienced professional politician, he’s just in extremely bad physical condition and his doctors seem unable to reverse the effects of time on his body and cognitive abilities. It happens.

I do not want you to do anything specific.

Yes, Biden needs to make a decision and this is not about one night. I do not think he is senile as such, but as President, if there is one thing you need to do is to be able to talk and do it convincingly.

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Quote from: paxmao on July 03, 2024, 06:03:46 AM

Quote from: be.open on July 03, 2024, 01:31:30 AM

Quote from: legiteum on July 03, 2024, 01:04:21 AM

If you don't think abortion is a super-big deal to Republicans you've been living under a rock.

I live in Russia, not under a rock. And from the outside, the confrontation between Republicans and Democrats in the United States looks much more fundamental, deeper and larger-scale than the confrontation between opponents and supporters of abortion, as you are trying to imagine here now.

It is no longer a problem. According to the Supreme Court Ruling the President is mostly immune from prosecution on official acts. I think that Biden should use Putin's modus- operandi - If someone dares to oppose, send him to Siberia until the guy "cools-off" the tantrum.

And it would now be all legal! No problem, no obstacle! And them you can go Trump on the civil service to make sure those pesky Civil Servants do not have so much winning when you ask them to break the law.

I am not sure that I understand correctly what exactly you want me to do, and most importantly, why.

Biden's problem is not that he miserably failed the debate and his probability of winning the upcoming election has dropped to 21%, while Trump's has risen to 59% (although this is of course a serious problem for his donors and supporters of the Democratic Party). Biden's problem is that he has rapidly progressing senile dementia or something like that. At the debate, he lost not only and not so much to Trump, but to himself in 2020. Biden is a good and very experienced professional politician, he’s just in extremely bad physical condition and his doctors seem unable to reverse the effects of time on his body and cognitive abilities. It happens.

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