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Quote from: darkangel11 on June 29, 2024, 04:10:12 PM

Biden is a weak old man that makes the US look weak. That's harsh, I know, but a weak leader simply makes all of you Americans weak.
Let's put the views aside for a moment. A guy like DeSantis has presence and how a president should look. At least that's how I imagine a US president. He should be young, sharp, talkative, be able to move the crowd, have strength to be at conferences and meetings. Be able to fly around the world and talk to people. He also has a good looking wife Wink

Therefore, it’s high time for him to rest, but are there any worthy candidates to replace him?

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Quote from: DeathAngel on June 29, 2024, 04:49:57 AM

Biden needs to step down or somebody needs to pull him out of this race, it is doing neither him nor the Democrats any good. Regardless of what you think of Trump, the most powerful country in the world can not be led by an old man who doesn’t know what the hell is going on around him.

Will never happen, both sides are too invested in their candidates at this point. Even TIME magazine was making fun of Biden on the front cover.

The time to defeat Trump was in the RNC primary, but without using any expletives, let's just say that his opposition were all.... cats.

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Quote from: JeromeTash on June 29, 2024, 05:53:08 PM

I watched part of the debate and I asked myself, How did the "great" nation end up in such a mess. Out of millions of people across, are those the only two that have the vision to run for presidency or lead the Country?

Not that I am shocked about politicians, but I expected a much worthier challenger from both camps. Biden is done, you can't fight nature. The earlier they accept and rolled out the way forward, the better.

Ironically, the destiny of the nation in this case does not seem to be at the reach of the hands of the people of the United States, but rather in the hands of the Biden team and the people who handle Biden. You gotta understand that those who are part of the team of the president do not want to end up losing their jobs, and that is exactly what happens if a new player enters the game and replace Joe.
I don't know about you, but the fact Barack Obama had to come up and defend Biden dating he is okey and he simply had a bad night could be considered a red flag. A strong candidate would not even need to have someone like Obama backing his back... On the other hand, Trump is not in good terms with the former vice president of the party and yet, he has managed to strip the chances of becoming president from Pence himself.

Among the 300 million people of the USA, I am sure there are some people who would feel definitely do a better job than these two would, but personal ambitions will prevail in the end, it seems, instead of what it is the best for the country.

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I watched part of the debate and I asked myself, How did the "great" nation end up in such a mess. Out of millions of people across, are those the only two that have the vision to run for presidency or lead the Country?

Not that I am shocked about politicians, but I expected a much worthier challenger from both camps. Biden is done, you can't fight nature. The earlier they accept and rolled out the way forward, the better.

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If Biden had a "great" debate and made Trump look like an idiot, as well as a criminal (which he actually did do), would the polls be any different? I don't think so.

Almost all voters have already made up their mind, and for the tiny few who haven't, it will simply depend on their source of news in the next few months.

Put it another way, about one half of the voters know Trump is a criminal and know he bedded two porn stars before the last election while his (nude model) wife was at home with his child. And then he committed multiple felonies in order to cover it up before the election, a crime which, had he not committed, he would have lost the election.

And Republican voters don't care. Trump is promising to make abortion illegal in all 50 states. Nothing else matters to Trump's voters.

So if they don't care about that, then whatever Biden looks like isn't going to matter to them either. Biden could be Abraham Lincoln and Trump's voters wouldn't care--the polls would be exactly where they are.

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Quote from: PhillipDe78 on June 28, 2024, 08:35:19 AM

I have the impression that the Democratic Party is faced with two options: either to continue with Biden and risk losing the election, or to urgently change candidates.

If Democrats still want Joe Biden to be its presidential candidate, then they have a whole lot of work to do. Currency pro-Democrats news outlets like CNN have started engaging in damage control. They had to show Biden's today's rally in the battleground state of North Carolina where he was full of life. He was fluent and energetic and rejected the call for him to step aside. Biden acknowledged that his age is affecting him negatively but he said he is better than Trump because he is truthful.

Biden still has more opportunities to show Americans that he deserves another four years. After all Barack Obama didn't do well in his first debate but came back smoking in subsequent ones. With his performance in the yesterday's debate, democrats have given Republicans more grounds or points. They will now use this woeful performance to campaign that Biden is not fit to be president. It is also important to state that it will be better to vote for an old man than to give your vote to a liar.

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Biden is a weak old man that makes the US look weak. That's harsh, I know, but a weak leader simply makes all of you Americans weak.
Let's put the views aside for a moment. A guy like DeSantis has presence and how a president should look. At least that's how I imagine a US president. He should be young, sharp, talkative, be able to move the crowd, have strength to be at conferences and meetings. Be able to fly around the world and talk to people. He also has a good looking wife Wink

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Not a good performance from Biden. Seemed very confused throughout, constantly losing his train of thought in between the rehearsed lines, and bizarre facial expressions with his mouth gaping open.

He needs to step aside even if its a logistical nightmare for the democrats. Perhaps that's why his campaign suggested they have a debate so early. Gives time for an exit strategy for Biden if things didn't go well.

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Quote from: DeathAngel on June 29, 2024, 04:49:57 AM

Biden needs to step down or somebody needs to pull him out of this race, it is doing neither him nor the Democrats any good. Regardless of what you think of Trump, the most powerful country in the world can not be led by an old man who doesn’t know what the hell is going on around him.

He simply disgraced all Democrats. It seems to me that these debates were a way to besiege the Democrats and bring down their ratings.

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I watched the whole debate, not sitting there paying attention all the time, but I put it on my mobile phone, watched it for a while and then kept listening to it while I was doing things. Trump was in his stride and showing much more energy and clarity than Biden, though obviously he's not going to convince many millions of voters who don't buy into him or the policies he plans to make. Biden, however, has been widely acknowledged by all to be unfit, and the best the Democratic party could do is replace him, as has been mentioned, but as I understand it, if he doesn't want to, they won't be able to replace him. Without wishing him any personal ill will, perhaps the best thing that could happen to the Democratic party is that one more of Biden's health problems will force him to resign.

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Biden needs to step down or somebody needs to pull him out of this race, it is doing neither him nor the Democrats any good. Regardless of what you think of Trump, the most powerful country in the world can not be led by an old man who doesn’t know what the hell is going on around him.

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Quote from: Vod on June 28, 2024, 06:52:49 PM

Quote from: paxmao on June 28, 2024, 06:14:31 PM

Why not before?

Good question! It was very important, so he probably was not able to. It could have been something as simple as not sleeping due to anxiety, but it's too little too late for him. If Biden wants to see the US continue as a nation, he needs to call in Michelle.

Edit: be.open - many people think the same! https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/presidential-debate-biden-trump-06-28-24#h_8e4de25037b4d5fb9a426e2fa9c03921

For Democrats, this is clearly the best option if they want to stay in power. The first black woman president, quite in the spirit of the general agenda.

ps Barack Obama will then have a unique chance to become first lady. Grin

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Quote from: Vod on June 27, 2024, 10:10:20 PM

I had to stop watching. Joe is losing it; he is reacting to Trump's lies instead of leading the debate. Nobody watching the debate is suddenly going to suddenly realize Trump is dishonest.

The whole debate was pathetic to be honest. They were both using ad hominem or personal attacks and both do not address what they will actually do for the country if they were elected.

They are dinosaurs who do not need to be running for the candidacy anymore. USA deserves a younger and smarter president than the ones presented to them right now. I just want to say good luck to us citizens. Your only options for president are both bad choices.

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Quote from: Quickseller on June 28, 2024, 07:52:51 AM

According to "Dr." Jill, it was great that Joe Biden answered every question....Such a low bar lol

I watched the Biden: We finally beat Medicare and Trump says Biden 'doesn't even know what he's saying' videos. So yeah, it's a great achievement that he can even debate.

Quote from: legiteum on June 28, 2024, 10:47:38 AM

I didn't think the debate would change anything before the it happened and I don't think it will now.
Biden is old, and everybody knows that.
Trump is a criminal, and everybody knows that.
Biden will win because he's not Trump, not because he's superman.

Yep, but in previous elections, there wasn't any footage of Biden falling from stairs, bikes, etc.

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Quote from: PhillipDe78 on June 28, 2024, 08:35:19 AM

I have the impression that the Democratic Party is faced with two options: either to continue with Biden and risk losing the election, or to urgently change candidates.

You meant the "Democrat" party, though. Ironically, it is funny considering how anti-democratic the Republican party seems to have gotten in these lastest four years, after Trump got kicked out the office, anyways.
The democrat party is very unlikely to change Biden as their candidate for the presidency, to be honest. As a sample of it, Obama himself has already stepped up and said he completely backs his former boss (Joe Biden) and points out everyone has a bad day and only because Biden did not perform well, does not mean he won't be an able president.

Also, I have seen already some conspiracy theorist to suggest all this is according to plan in order for the party to switch Biden for Michelle Obama, which it would be a even worse pick than Biden. The country is simply not ready to have black woman as president, they were not to have a woman (Hillary), then are ever further from accepting Michelle.

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Quote from: paxmao on June 28, 2024, 06:14:31 PM

Why not before?

Good question! It was very important, so he probably was not able to. It could have been something as simple as not sleeping due to anxiety, but it's too little too late for him. If Biden wants to see the US continue as a nation, he needs to call in Michelle.

Edit: be.open - many people think the same! https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/presidential-debate-biden-trump-06-28-24#h_8e4de25037b4d5fb9a426e2fa9c03921

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This looks entirely other thing...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5CVZHAjrW8

Why not before?

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Quote from: be.open on June 28, 2024, 03:55:30 AM

Democrats still have a chance to remove Biden from the election and replace him with Michelle Obama. I think that’s why they organized this debate, to assess the degree of Biden’s overall physical readiness.

I think this is their best bet. Biden froze and was reactive instead of proactive. Half the country is willing to accept dishonesty in their faith - revolution is near.

Quote from: Lazymen on June 28, 2024, 07:36:06 AM

Funny debate, two elderly people are standing and arguing, they should feed the ducks in the park, and not row money Grin

Elderly people like to turn up the thermostat. Sad

If Trump wins, he is cranking that thing way up.

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I didn't think the debate would change anything before the it happened and I don't think it will now.

Biden is old, and everybody knows that.

Trump is a criminal, and everybody knows that.

Biden will win because he's not Trump, not because he's superman.

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