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Topic: The difference between government instituted currencies and Bitcoin is huge. (Read 5094 times)

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sounds like you should stick with usd.  bitcoin at this point in time is not ready for Gavin's grandma but when it is perhaps you will be ready to use it.

welcome to the real world, mi amigo.  yes there is greed all around us. I argue, however, that wallstreet has more greed than bitcoiners.


Why are you speaking to me in Spanish? I'm not Hispanic. and please refrain from "welcoming" me anywhere. You are nobody besides a poster on a Bitcoin forum. What authority do you have to welcome me anywhere? and yea, argue all you want. I'm not arguing anything just stated how I feel. If my opinions offend you... well maybe you're the one who needs a reality check. Opinions are all around us. Speaking of grandmothers, my grandmother is more tolerant than some of you.

This guy is a plant, maybe someone should ban him for being disingenuous.   I am serious.

What is even more shocking is he is not a plant and actually believes and acts this way in real life.  I think a lot of people here are trying to explain to him how bitcoin works but he has a victim mentality and believes the forum and all of humanity is trying to get him.  In fact, on one of my posts I was actually agreeing with him but he played the victim and argued with me. 

You're the type of person who would kill someone for their own good.

As a United States citizen I have no choice but to pay taxes to fund wars to keep our freedom.  Freedom isn't free.

Then how is it freedom?
legendary
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sounds like you should stick with usd.  bitcoin at this point in time is not ready for Gavin's grandma but when it is perhaps you will be ready to use it.

welcome to the real world, mi amigo.  yes there is greed all around us. I argue, however, that wallstreet has more greed than bitcoiners.


Why are you speaking to me in Spanish? I'm not Hispanic. and please refrain from "welcoming" me anywhere. You are nobody besides a poster on a Bitcoin forum. What authority do you have to welcome me anywhere? and yea, argue all you want. I'm not arguing anything just stated how I feel. If my opinions offend you... well maybe you're the one who needs a reality check. Opinions are all around us. Speaking of grandmothers, my grandmother is more tolerant than some of you.

This guy is a plant, maybe someone should ban him for being disingenuous.   I am serious.

What is even more shocking is he is not a plant and actually believes and acts this way in real life.  I think a lot of people here are trying to explain to him how bitcoin works but he has a victim mentality and believes the forum and all of humanity is trying to get him.  In fact, on one of my posts I was actually agreeing with him but he played the victim and argued with me. 

You're the type of person who would kill someone for their own good.

As a United States citizen I have no choice but to pay taxes to fund wars to keep our freedom.  Freedom isn't free.
member
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sounds like you should stick with usd.  bitcoin at this point in time is not ready for Gavin's grandma but when it is perhaps you will be ready to use it.

welcome to the real world, mi amigo.  yes there is greed all around us. I argue, however, that wallstreet has more greed than bitcoiners.


Why are you speaking to me in Spanish? I'm not Hispanic. and please refrain from "welcoming" me anywhere. You are nobody besides a poster on a Bitcoin forum. What authority do you have to welcome me anywhere? and yea, argue all you want. I'm not arguing anything just stated how I feel. If my opinions offend you... well maybe you're the one who needs a reality check. Opinions are all around us. Speaking of grandmothers, my grandmother is more tolerant than some of you.

This guy is a plant, maybe someone should ban him for being disingenuous.   I am serious.

What is even more shocking is he is not a plant and actually believes and acts this way in real life.  I think a lot of people here are trying to explain to him how bitcoin works but he has a victim mentality and believes the forum and all of humanity is trying to get him.  In fact, on one of my posts I was actually agreeing with him but he played the victim and argued with me. 

You're the type of person who would kill someone for their own good.
legendary
Activity: 1304
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sounds like you should stick with usd.  bitcoin at this point in time is not ready for Gavin's grandma but when it is perhaps you will be ready to use it.

welcome to the real world, mi amigo.  yes there is greed all around us. I argue, however, that wallstreet has more greed than bitcoiners.


Why are you speaking to me in Spanish? I'm not Hispanic. and please refrain from "welcoming" me anywhere. You are nobody besides a poster on a Bitcoin forum. What authority do you have to welcome me anywhere? and yea, argue all you want. I'm not arguing anything just stated how I feel. If my opinions offend you... well maybe you're the one who needs a reality check. Opinions are all around us. Speaking of grandmothers, my grandmother is more tolerant than some of you.

This guy is a plant, maybe someone should ban him for being disingenuous.   I am serious.

What is even more shocking is he is not a plant and actually believes and acts this way in real life.  I think a lot of people here are trying to explain to him how bitcoin works but he has a victim mentality and believes the forum and all of humanity is trying to get him.  In fact, on one of my posts I was actually agreeing with him but he played the victim and argued with me. 
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Partially because I don't want to be banned, which is pretty sad in itself.

It's not plausible to think anybody will ban you for anything you say in these forums. It just won't happen. If you create a lot of identities and a lot of junk threads, then maybe. But not for opinions.

Opinions are merciless.



That's just life and the only way you can stop it is if you kill me.

Atlas?


Stop asking me if I'm somebody else. There's no way to prove it anyway. Why bother? I can't prove I'm not.
hero member
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Partially because I don't want to be banned, which is pretty sad in itself.

It's not plausible to think anybody will ban you for anything you say in these forums. It just won't happen. If you create a lot of identities and a lot of junk threads, then maybe. But not for opinions.

Opinions are merciless.



That's just life and the only way you can stop it is if you kill me.

Atlas?
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That's because not every opinion is an argument. I know, the English speaking internet has trouble grasping this concept lately. I'm not sure what percentage of the internet has had the experience of participating in a conversation within their lifetime.

The problem is not that in my opinion. When I go to a bar and start conversing (which is often not in English), and present my opinion, and someone takes me seriously enough to create an elaborate and well-thought response (be it right or wrong, honesty and effort is what counts), I can't just say "well I'm not convinced" without addressing any points they made. I've been in circles where that kind of interaction wasn't frowned upon, but good conversations just don't happen in such environments.


Too bad because that's reality. Opinions are merciless. Plus, I'm actually being much more humane about it than I need be. Partially because I don't want to be banned, which is pretty sad in itself. but also because I'm playing the devils advocate to an extent, by giving a vantage point of what I know certain outsiders would think about Bitcoin. Those kind of people won't tell you what they feel, because they're afraid to be in the position I'm in right now.. the line of fire. If I feel it, I'll probably say it. Even though I said I was advocating for others, I also feel this way. It is what it is. That's just life and the only way you can stop it is if you kill me.
hero member
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That's because not every opinion is an argument. I know, the English speaking internet has trouble grasping this concept lately. I'm not sure what percentage of the internet has had the experience of participating in a conversation within their lifetime.

The problem is not that in my opinion. When I go to a bar and start conversing (which is often not in English), and present my opinion, and someone takes me seriously enough to create an elaborate and well-thought response (be it right or wrong, honesty and effort is what counts), I can't just say "well I'm not convinced" without addressing any points they made. I've been in circles where that kind of interaction wasn't frowned upon, but good conversations just don't happen in such environments.
member
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Good job, you've identified a critical failure in Bitcoin that nobody has ever though of before.

Before the entire system collapses there's still time for you to send all your Bitcoins to the address in my signature line so they won't take you down with it.

and likewise, good job to you, for being the first person to identify the power of mocking at the truth through a false founded sarcasm based on ignorant rhetoric.

Now I am confused....I thought the OP made a blatant attempt to get people to sell Bitcoins and the second poster demonstrated (rather hilariously) how to more directly connecting the dots...

Or was the OP serious?  I didn't see an actual argument in the original post...

That's because not every opinion is an argument. I know, the English speaking internet has trouble grasping this concept lately. I'm not sure what percentage of the internet has had the experience of participating in a conversation within their lifetime.

Anyone can assert anything. I think what I really meant was something else. That's the beauty of a conversation. It builds until eventually you come to self realization of why you are speaking. I know why I wrote a thread, it was because something was bothering me about Bitcoin. I know why I compare it to other currencies and leaned on casting a darker light on Bitcoin. Why? because I want to know what you think makes Bitcoins better. Some posters have given long responses as to why, but forgive me for giving an outsiders opinion, regardless if it's been given countless times before. Forgive me if I cannot express myself well. I'm not trying to find sympathy from anyone. I'm not at your mercy at the end of the day, and I think it's that very arrogance which hinders any system from being useful to humanity. Is Bitcoin essentially elitist? then stop portraying it as filling a need. If you do that, I am inclined to think I'd rather stick with something that has a more official backing. I don't fight a war by creating a better system. I fight a war by FIGHTING THE WAR. Cowards go off and start new... but a true servant to liberation dies on the very land they are protecting.

I'm sure many will think my opinions are junk, and cluttering the board. If that's how you truly feel, then fine. Please no longer respond to this thread and it will go away.

Maybe I'm wrong about everything, and you're all right about everything.
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I outlived my lifetime membership:)
Good job, you've identified a critical failure in Bitcoin that nobody has ever though of before.

Before the entire system collapses there's still time for you to send all your Bitcoins to the address in my signature line so they won't take you down with it.

and likewise, good job to you, for being the first person to identify the power of mocking at the truth through a false founded sarcasm based on ignorant rhetoric.

Now I am confused....I thought the OP made a blatant attempt to get people to sell Bitcoins and the second poster demonstrated (rather hilariously) how to more directly connecting the dots...

Or was the OP serious?  I didn't see an actual argument in the original post...
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No offense to either one of you, OP or the person I am about to reference if the answer is no. But are you Luke-jr?

Am I Luke-jr? No.. I'm ridgemont4.
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No offense to either one of you, OP or the person I am about to reference if the answer is no. But are you Luke-jr?
legendary
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Nope, just a content requirement.
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Let me know when you find a perfect human being.

That is your response, give me a break.   That is what I thought.   

Is there a number of words requirement?
legendary
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Let me know when you find a perfect human being.

That is your response, give me a break.   That is what I thought.   
member
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sounds like you should stick with usd.  bitcoin at this point in time is not ready for Gavin's grandma but when it is perhaps you will be ready to use it.

welcome to the real world, mi amigo.  yes there is greed all around us. I argue, however, that wallstreet has more greed than bitcoiners.


Why are you speaking to me in Spanish? I'm not Hispanic. and please refrain from "welcoming" me anywhere. You are nobody besides a poster on a Bitcoin forum. What authority do you have to welcome me anywhere? and yea, argue all you want. I'm not arguing anything just stated how I feel. If my opinions offend you... well maybe you're the one who needs a reality check. Opinions are all around us. Speaking of grandmothers, my grandmother is more tolerant than some of you.

This guy is a plant, maybe someone should ban him for being disingenuous.   I am serious.

Please prove that I am a plant.. the biggest irony is you're being disingenuous even that much more. I am serious.

And this is exactly what I'm talking about when I say special interests. You've got a mining company or something going on.. Wow good for you, but to censor my opinion makes you the biased shill, or "plant". You employ yourself coming from a biased standpoint. Get real. If anything is bad about Bitcoin and the world in general, it's exactly people like you.

Ok, you want to call me out, I will explain my reasoning.   Just read the totality of all your posts on this thread and see how you tactic changed from post to post trying every little angle to see what is effective.  At first you were this mis-understood person that JUST couldn't get the words out so we could have sympathy.  Then as more of the serious members come in and start challenging you, slowly (a miracle), you got your voice and your opinion got more and more complex right before out eyes.   It vastly expanded, like magic.   Now you a full grown man or women, with lots of big words and structure sentences.  

Now, to the point you made about my mining company.  I mine for two reasons, I can do it profitably (sustainable at the moment) and it supports the network.  I actually first mined in the Spring of 2010 when I heard about this concept and thought it was going to just be a hobby project, wow, look at us now.   I actually have not actually used my words thus far to push anyone in either direction when we are talking about BTC in this thread.   People can do what they want, I was just address these comments you are throwing around.   I actually have seen this post for a little bit and wasn't going to read it because I knew this was what is was going to be.   Guess what, I was right, shame on me.

D

Let me know when you find a perfect human being.
and please tell me what makes me any less serious than others who you believe to be serious? do you have the place to declare that?
Yeah and I sort of knew what would happen before making this thread. I guess we all stumble from time to time. Shame on me as well?
legendary
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sounds like you should stick with usd.  bitcoin at this point in time is not ready for Gavin's grandma but when it is perhaps you will be ready to use it.

welcome to the real world, mi amigo.  yes there is greed all around us. I argue, however, that wallstreet has more greed than bitcoiners.


Why are you speaking to me in Spanish? I'm not Hispanic. and please refrain from "welcoming" me anywhere. You are nobody besides a poster on a Bitcoin forum. What authority do you have to welcome me anywhere? and yea, argue all you want. I'm not arguing anything just stated how I feel. If my opinions offend you... well maybe you're the one who needs a reality check. Opinions are all around us. Speaking of grandmothers, my grandmother is more tolerant than some of you.

This guy is a plant, maybe someone should ban him for being disingenuous.   I am serious.

Please prove that I am a plant.. the biggest irony is you're being disingenuous even that much more. I am serious.

And this is exactly what I'm talking about when I say special interests. You've got a mining company or something going on.. Wow good for you, but to censor my opinion makes you the biased shill, or "plant". You employ yourself coming from a biased standpoint. Get real. If anything is bad about Bitcoin and the world in general, it's exactly people like you.

Ok, you want to call me out, I will explain my reasoning.   Just read the totality of all your posts on this thread and see how you tactic changed from post to post trying every little angle to see what is effective.  At first you were this mis-understood person that JUST couldn't get the words out so we could have sympathy.  Then as more of the serious members come in and start challenging you, slowly (a miracle), you got your voice and your opinion got more and more complex right before out eyes.   It vastly expanded, like magic.   Now you a full grown man or women, with lots of big words and structure sentences. 

Now, to the point you made about my mining company.  I mine for two reasons, I can do it profitably (sustainable at the moment) and it supports the network.  I actually first mined in the Spring of 2010 when I heard about this concept and thought it was going to just be a hobby project, wow, look at us now.   I actually have not actually used my words thus far to push anyone in either direction when we are talking about BTC in this thread.   People can do what they want, I was just address these comments you are throwing around.   I actually have seen this post for a little bit and wasn't going to read it because I knew this was what is was going to be.   Guess what, I was right, shame on me.

D
member
Activity: 112
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sounds like you should stick with usd.  bitcoin at this point in time is not ready for Gavin's grandma but when it is perhaps you will be ready to use it.

welcome to the real world, mi amigo.  yes there is greed all around us. I argue, however, that wallstreet has more greed than bitcoiners.


Why are you speaking to me in Spanish? I'm not Hispanic. and please refrain from "welcoming" me anywhere. You are nobody besides a poster on a Bitcoin forum. What authority do you have to welcome me anywhere? and yea, argue all you want. I'm not arguing anything just stated how I feel. If my opinions offend you... well maybe you're the one who needs a reality check. Opinions are all around us. Speaking of grandmothers, my grandmother is more tolerant than some of you.

This guy is a plant, maybe someone should ban him for being disingenuous.   I am serious.

Please prove that I am a plant.. the biggest irony is you're being disingenuous even that much more. I am serious.

And this is exactly what I'm talking about when I say special interests. You've got a mining company or something going on.. Wow good for you, but to censor my opinion makes you the biased shill, or "plant". You employ yourself coming from a biased standpoint. Get real. If anything is bad about Bitcoin and the world in general, it's exactly people like you.
legendary
Activity: 1330
Merit: 1026
Mining since 2010 & Hosting since 2012
sounds like you should stick with usd.  bitcoin at this point in time is not ready for Gavin's grandma but when it is perhaps you will be ready to use it.

welcome to the real world, mi amigo.  yes there is greed all around us. I argue, however, that wallstreet has more greed than bitcoiners.


Why are you speaking to me in Spanish? I'm not Hispanic. and please refrain from "welcoming" me anywhere. You are nobody besides a poster on a Bitcoin forum. What authority do you have to welcome me anywhere? and yea, argue all you want. I'm not arguing anything just stated how I feel. If my opinions offend you... well maybe you're the one who needs a reality check. Opinions are all around us. Speaking of grandmothers, my grandmother is more tolerant than some of you.

This guy is a plant, maybe someone should ban him for being disingenuous.   I am serious.
legendary
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That's the point of the United States' checks and balances of power.

What checks and balances of power?

The ones that are bought and influenced by special interest groups called humans conning other humans. It's inevitable.

There world is spiraling into chaos and reason is slowing it down. but you cannot reason with the unreasonable. inevitably, you will make a mistake in judgement, thinking you can. Like for example, electing Obama for president was a mistake in judgement I would say. he was hoping to be president and he got his dream. What did we get? nothing.

OH NOW HE HAS A VOICE.  YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME.    I hate trolls like this, they are the worst.
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