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Topic: "The Ethical Exchange" is Coming - Should General Bitcoin Users Trust It? - page 2. (Read 5586 times)

hero member
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Somebody pass me the Jerkins.

If you would have spent $50 for a professional copywriter, I wouldn't be raising my red flag. It may pass the smell test for the average Joe, but for this community, I think not.

Personally, I would have written it in E-Prime.

hint: think segway
legendary
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Bitcoin: An Idea Worth Spending
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Crypto X Changer will change the future of Bitcoin Trading, Buying, Selling and Bitcoin Exchanges in general allowing for fast simple transactions and investments for users of any level of computer ability.

Crypto X Changer has so many features, never yet seen in the Bitcoin World, we cannot give details until the Exchange is Launched as we have spent and invested so much time in market research, research and development and massive infrastructure. Crypto X Changer is an Australian Owned and Opperated Registered Company.

There are so many features that the current Bitcoin Community will enjoy and also many features to enhance others that have not yet discovered Bitcoin to join the revolution with absolute minimum technical knowledge skills or abilities. Our aim is to be not only the largest world wide exchange but the best, by providing around the clock support, assistance and features we cannot mention until our Launch day in September. Be prepared to be excited! We will also have other new Digital Currencies added to our exchange as they become available.

Please note we will not be disclosing any of our additional & special features until our official Launch Day. We have many unique features that are not yet in the marketplace.


Somebody pass me the Jerkins.

If you would have spent $50 for a professional copywriter, I wouldn't be raising my red flag. It may pass the smell test for the average Joe, but for this community, I think not.

Personally, I would have written it in E-Prime.

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I can't find either an ACN or an ABN for Crypto X Changer Pty Ltd.  The business name doesn't even appear to be registered.  Even if you're "trading as" under a holding company, you still need to register the business name unless it's your personal name which it clearly isn't in this case.
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All definitions from google

Conspiracy: The action of plotting or conspiring.
Conspire: To secretly plot or make plans together, often used regarding something bad or illegal
Bad: Of poor quality; inferior or defective
Defective: Mentally handicapped
Mentally: In a manner relating to the mind
Mind: A person identified with their intellectual faculties
Identified: Associate (someone) closely with; regard (someone) as having strong links with
...  I have no idea where I am going with this.... must be some sort of conspiracy?
sr. member
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The amount of defense and offense being taken in this thread screams loudly that there is partnerships or something else we just do not know about that would make a person post such b.s.

The only one screaming in this thread is you my friend.

Step 1: Start a thread accusing people of collaborating with Bruce Wagner, based on.. well based on nothing.

- They don't reply: It's a conspiracy!
- They reply: It's a conspiracy!
- They play along with your bullshit: It's a conspiracy!
- They defend themselves: It's DEFINITELY a conspiracy!!!

Get a grip of yourself. Try going outside for a little while?
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O_O   I'm confused.... Who is the person behind that post above and why produce offensive style of communication?  Usage of 'shit' or other profanity is not necessarily offensive, however, in the context it was used, it seems a bit embarrassing and/or degrading, in my opinion. =/
haha, I didn't even notice his little list of things, they all were moot points so already forgotten.   The amount of defense and offense being taken in this thread screams loudly that there is partnerships or something else we just do not know about that would make a person post such b.s.
hero member
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5.Which competing exchange told you to post this shit in the forum...

O_O   I'm confused.... Who is the person behind that post above and why produce offensive style of communication?  Usage of 'shit' or other profanity is not necessarily offensive, however, in the context it was used, it seems a bit embarrassing and/or degrading, in my opinion. =/
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You didnt offend me I was defending a company and an individual who will be doing great things for bitcoin soon.

We will see once it opens I guess and either Im right and you can call me a genius or Im  wrong and you can call me a douchebag .  Tongue
I'm glad you calmed down, emoticons are a start Wink     It's not about you, me, or whoever (okay, well now in some cases it does seem to be about you lol....but that is because your user name and the site sharing that title, not you as a person or whatever, no ill will or intent). 

From my view, the best currency exchange is about to open, it will debut on OnlyOneTV, the services are touted by BitconMedia as being awesome, yet no one else other than these three parties seems to have any information regarding this exchange. Thus this thread, nothing more, nothing less.   I assure you though, I would have felt like complete ass if I didn't make this thread with my concerns.  I hope others do not sit on their hands if something smells fishy with other things they see in all the Bitcoin communities.
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Wat
You didnt offend me I was defending a company and an individual who will be doing great things for bitcoin soon.

We will see once it opens I guess and either Im right and you can call me a genius or Im  wrong and you can call me a douchebag .  Tongue
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If you take your head out of your ass long enough you would notice the comments in one of those stories by Lanie Grace. This is a pseudonym used by BitcoinExpress. Why is he posting this fud ?

Dude, calm down, "its news"   Anyone can leave comments.   I'm super glad I made this thread now, mentioned multiple times there is NO conspiracy, I am not automatically assuming or connecting ANY dots, that is why I made the damn thread and did not make a post on BitcoinMedia.com or anywhere else bringing up this.   I thought maybe this could be discussed.

Thanks genjix.   At the very least things are very clear regarding BitcoinMedia (the site) versus BitconMedia (the user), not as related as one would think.


What are your thoughts again for marketing and spreading the word about our exchange without being shot down by people like you discrediting business's like ours immediately?
Do you want the users of your site to trust you without knowing anything?   Why would ANY Bitcoin site want to operate like that... but more importantly..  "PEOPLE LIKE YOU" lol.   Potential customers?   Ones who are inquisitive?  Curious?  Care a little bit about the companies behind the services they use?
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Wat
There have been countless stories posted on bitcoinmedia about mt gox,tradehill and other exchanges. Why the shitfight over this one ?

Hey I even posted a youtube video about bitcoinatm they put on youtube...and a story about a bitcoin to gold market coinabul.
sr. member
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Crypto X Change
Thanks for the reply, but it still does not allay the many fears that people have concerning any new exchange. It's all just words at this stage. However, I will give your site the benefit of the doubt. Time will tell me if I will consider putting my money into it though.

Regarding the:

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Their launch will be sometime this month.  The launch will be live on OnlyOneTV / The Bitcoin Show.

Are you now reconsidering how you are going to launch the site? I have a fine line that I have drawn regarding Bruce, and I refuse to have any of my investments in sites that are connected to him in any way. I know many other people who were hit with the MyBitcoin scam who think the same way.

Check out this post for a brief summary regarding Bruce. The entire thread (which was started by Bruce) is an interesting read.

Anyone trying to promote their show let alone being launched, by being interviewed by an experienced and clever con artist  - well, you can see why this might need a rethink Wink

I wish you all the best of luck if you are genuine.

Thankyou JonHind,

Yes, you will find that we are a very open and honest business. It is so important in any business that a company conducts it's self 100% genuinely, professionally and most important ethically!

We are seeking Advertising spots, interviews and ways to promote our exchange for the Launch this month.

Regards

Crypto X Changer
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Wat
JONHIND - What is your approved list of sites and places to advertise our new exchange? We have not just built this overnight, the Launching on The Bitcoin Show was organised a long time ago. We will look into what you are stating here.

What are your thoughts again for marketing and spreading the word about our exchange without being shot down by people like you discrediting business's like ours immediately?

I'll lay it down straight. It surprises me that someone who is planning on launching a bitcoin exchange can be willing to have anything to do with someone who has:

a) Run a mortgage scam company, defrauding many desperate and vulnerable people.
b) Has defaulted on rents around the country.
c) Heavily promoted MyBitcoin, and continued to do so for weeks after being warned by the community.

There are also a lot of other allegations about Bruce, which while are serious, don't have any reflection on the bitcoin economy.

The vast majority of bitcoin users know about Bruce, and I believe that most of them do not trust him. He was asked by many people to explain some important points regarding his past and present dealings, and he replied by running away to a forum where he moderates every single post.

With regards to you advertising your site, this forum is probably the best solution, as are other bitcoin forums. If your site is secure, becomes trusted and works, then word of mouth will do the rest. If you desperately want a video interview, there are people other than Bruce who have produced some quite informative bitcoin video interviews.

Surely you can understand why many people will not trust you if you are in any way connected with Bruce? Many people pulled out of MtGox because they still advertise on his show (myself included). Many of us have been burned by the MyBitcoin fraud to ever consider being scammed twice.

Wink


When people make a forum post accusing you of being bruce wagner you'll understand how truly retarded this forum is.
legendary
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legendary
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BitcoinMedia is an open outlet for people to post any topics. I try not to restrict the editors.

Nonetheless I had the same worries you did about that post and was waiting to speak to CoinMedia on IRC. Especially when members of my own group are pushing me to advertise our services then pointing to that post when I refuse. BitcoinMedia should really be an educational community site free from commercials.
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Thanks for the reply, but it still does not allay the many fears that people have concerning any new exchange. It's all just words at this stage. However, I will give your site the benefit of the doubt. Time will tell me if I will consider putting my money into it though.

Regarding the:

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Their launch will be sometime this month.  The launch will be live on OnlyOneTV / The Bitcoin Show.

Are you now reconsidering how you are going to launch the site? I have a fine line that I have drawn regarding Bruce, and I refuse to have any of my investments in sites that are connected to him in any way. I know many other people who were hit with the MyBitcoin scam who think the same way.

Check out this post for a brief summary regarding Bruce. The entire thread (which was started by Bruce) is an interesting read.

Anyone trying to promote their show let alone being launched, by being interviewed by an experienced and clever con artist  - well, you can see why this might need a rethink Wink

I wish you all the best of luck if you are genuine.
sr. member
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Crypto X Change
Ok JonHind,

We can now see....

Our company is completely legitimate and we do not at all want to be associated with any other companies that are like that.

Crypto X Changer was built and designed for the Bitcoin Community from the ground up by our own in house programming team.

We are reaching out to all audiences to promote Bitcoin and our safe and easy platform, making it very simple, easy and bullet proof for Professionals through to non technical people. There are many more products that we have in the works following the Exchange, to bring Bitcoin more to the general public and make it very acceptable and easy to use for Merchants, Consumers and other Bitcoin related business's.

Our goal is to be totally transparent to the community, we have been working on our exchange for a long time now and we have invested a lot of money into our Hardware Infrastructure, Security and of course the development of our exchange. Crypto X Changer is here for good, we are not a fly by night scam, we are an Australian registered company. Our passion for Bitcoin is the same as our users.

Regards

Crypto X Changer
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JONHIND - What is your approved list of sites and places to advertise our new exchange? We have not just built this overnight, the Launching on The Bitcoin Show was organised a long time ago. We will look into what you are stating here.

What are your thoughts again for marketing and spreading the word about our exchange without being shot down by people like you discrediting business's like ours immediately?

I'll lay it down straight. It surprises me that someone who is planning on launching a bitcoin exchange can be willing to have anything to do with someone who has:

a) Run a mortgage scam company, defrauding many desperate and vulnerable people.
b) Has defaulted on rents around the country.
c) Heavily promoted MyBitcoin, and continued to do so for weeks after being warned by the community.

There are also a lot of other allegations about Bruce, which while are serious, don't have any reflection on the bitcoin economy.

The vast majority of bitcoin users know about Bruce, and I believe that most of them do not trust him. He was asked by many people to explain some important points regarding his past and present dealings, and he replied by running away to a forum where he moderates every single post.

With regards to you advertising your site, this forum is probably the best solution, as are other bitcoin forums. If your site is secure, becomes trusted and works, then word of mouth will do the rest. If you desperately want a video interview, there are people other than Bruce who have produced some quite informative bitcoin video interviews.

Surely you can understand why many people will not trust you if you are in any way connected with Bruce? Many people pulled out of MtGox because they still advertise on his show (myself included). Many of us have been burned by the MyBitcoin fraud to ever consider being scammed twice.

Wink
sr. member
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Crypto X Change
If cryptoexchange is still around in a year and hasn't run off with everyone's money, then I might consider checking it out. Launching the site on convicted fraudster Bruce's bitcoin 'show' means that I'm going to stay well away from it until then. From my inquiries with bitcoin trading friends, I am not alone with my views either.

Launching a bitcoin site on Bruce's vanity show is like a childcare creche being opened by Gary Glitter.

JONHIND - What is your approved list of sites and places to advertise our new exchange? We have not just built this overnight, the Launching on The Bitcoin Show was organised a long time ago. We will look into what you are stating here.

What are your thoughts again for marketing and spreading the word about our exchange without being shot down by people like you discrediting business's like ours immediately?
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If cryptoexchange is still around in a year and hasn't run off with everyone's money, then I might consider checking it out. Launching the site on convicted fraudster Bruce's bitcoin 'show' means that I'm going to stay well away from it until then. From my inquiries with bitcoin trading friends, I am not alone with my views either.

Launching a bitcoin site on Bruce's vanity show is like a childcare creche being opened by Gary Glitter.
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