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Quote from: Russlenat on July 02, 2022, 03:40:55 PM

Quote from: Jawhead999 on June 26, 2022, 04:10:16 AM

I have no idea why you need to worry about those stuffs when it's really easy to prevent it.

Negative trust: This mostly because they're scam and cheating in the same campaign.
Ban: Mostly because plagiarism, shitposter have very low chance for being banned.

This mean, if you're create a post and include all the original sources, also didn't have intention to become bad people, you're 100% fine.

As long as your intention is pure and won't do anything bad that could harm the forum and make your own account be at stake, then you are free from tagging with negative trust and banning. Although there are some light mistakes in the forum that are somehow unavoidable, like posting with low content particularly for newbies, or sometimes off-topic, but as you grow and mature in the market, these mistakes will also be corrected and you get to improve your performance in the forum and become a potential one.

Yeah if we don't do anything can cause financial loss to anyone also cannot do anything can destroy the reputation of our fellow forum member here well we can safely say that we are doing the right thing which cannot cause us getting ban or get red trust from other DT forum members here. Also we should focus to learn and to help new people here understand what they want to ask since for this for sure we can get positive tracks upon staying here.

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Quote from: Munir575 on July 02, 2022, 12:03:36 PM

Newbies should rather focus on reading than posting. To avoid being ban and tagged with negative trust you just need to abide by the forum rules and also do away with cheating. When you've gathered enough knowledge I'm sure you'll be safe from anything of such.

I will add that one reason is plagiarism. This is a serious offence on the forum. It involves using other people's knowledge without making reference to them by directing the forum where the source comes from. This involves both books that have been written or bloggs, YouTube channels and other online materials should be acknowledged.

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Quote from: Jawhead999 on June 26, 2022, 04:10:16 AM

I have no idea why you need to worry about those stuffs when it's really easy to prevent it.

Negative trust: This mostly because they're scam and cheating in the same campaign.
Ban: Mostly because plagiarism, shitposter have very low chance for being banned.

This mean, if you're create a post and include all the original sources, also didn't have intention to become bad people, you're 100% fine.

As long as your intention is pure and won't do anything bad that could harm the forum and make your own account be at stake, then you are free from tagging with negative trust and banning. Although there are some light mistakes in the forum that are somehow unavoidable, like posting with low content particularly for newbies, or sometimes off-topic, but as you grow and mature in the market, these mistakes will also be corrected and you get to improve your performance in the forum and become a potential one.

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Newbies should rather focus on reading than posting. To avoid being ban and tagged with negative trust you just need to abide by the forum rules and also do away with cheating. When you've gathered enough knowledge I'm sure you'll be safe from anything of such.

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Quote from: Bhig Daddy on June 30, 2022, 04:00:38 AM

Negative trust or being ban on this forum is not something that is given anyhow, for you to get a negative trust that mean your level of offense must be highly bad. Like maybe using a multiple account on the forum or so, you just don't get negative trust on sharing your view on a post on this forum.

Exactly. Negative trust is mainly given due to activities that caused damage to other forum members such as financial loss and similar reasons.
Besides, what really matters is who grants the negative trust. Only a negative trust from a DT1 or DT2 member has any concrete meaning and consequences for the member.
As far as I know, there are very few cases of manipulation with a negative trust, when someone gives it because of an opinion expressed on the forum, so nobody really needs to be afraid of that.
The forum community always knows how to recognize such cases so everyone can freely express their opinion here.

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Quote from: Yawa2020 on June 26, 2022, 02:38:43 AM

It's an undeniable fact that, the fear of Negative trust and being ban from the forum is the reason most newbies with myself inclusive, do not contribute much to the growth of the forum. However, I will advice all new members including myself, to be acquainted with forum guidelines in order to guarantee safe usage of our accounts. Although, it's quite kinda difficult to be conversant with all the forum rules since they are not documented in a single thread. I guess the reason for this is due to the large nature of the forum and as such each section might have different and interrelated rules. In an attempt to make myself and other new members to be conversant with the forum rules, I'll recommend these threads for guidance.
1. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/newbies-read-before-posting-1689727
2. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bitcointalk-posting-etiquette-5184741
3. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/unofficial-list-of-official-bitcointalkorg-rules-guidelines-faq-703657
4. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5277049
I'm pretty sure that, thoroughly going over the above threads might help you get rid of the fear of Negative trust and being ban from the forum. I wish you all good luck throughout your staying 💪

There are certain rules in the forum that will make your account safe at all times, and if you are bound not to go against with the rules, then you don’t have to worry after all. Negative trust and banning are only made possible if the admin sees you not a productive member, but a threat that could ruin the goals of the forum. So never create shortcuts or things that are considered red flags, otherwise you’ll be permanently banned in the forum in no time.

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Quote from: Rengga Jati on June 30, 2022, 07:00:19 PM

Quote from: Yawa2020 on June 26, 2022, 02:38:43 AM

It's an undeniable fact that, the fear of Negative trust and being ban from the forum is the reason most newbies with myself inclusive, do not contribute much to the growth of the forum.

Actually, there is no need to be fear of this forum. As long as we follow the regulation and do not break the rules, we are okay here. We can learn many things here, and we can earn money from this forum. Our contribution and information to the forum may also help other members. We may not be perfect, but as long as we want o read, learn, and understand, we can do good things here. Moreover, we have this forum also to have discussions, giving and accepting feedback and critics, gaining more updated information, and many others.
The ban system is done ebcuse we make serious mistakes like plagiarism, and this is not only i this forum, plagiarism is a big mistake. And others may be also ifnleunce to the regulations.

That's right there's nothing we can afraid on this forum since there are a lot of things to learn here that's why newbies should stay on their cool browsing some information because if they didn't do illegal things which can cause huge harm to other forum users well they are safe from any bad things that might happen to their account. Also reading basic forum rules is good start to avoid violating forum rules which has been implemented here.

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Quote from: Yawa2020 on June 26, 2022, 02:38:43 AM

It's an undeniable fact that, the fear of Negative trust and being ban from the forum is the reason most newbies with myself inclusive, do not contribute much to the growth of the forum.

Actually, there is no need to be fear of this forum. As long as we follow the regulation and do not break the rules, we are okay here. We can learn many things here, and we can earn money from this forum. Our contribution and information to the forum may also help other members. We may not be perfect, but as long as we want o read, learn, and understand, we can do good things here. Moreover, we have this forum also to have discussions, giving and accepting feedback and critics, gaining more updated information, and many others.
The ban system is done ebcuse we make serious mistakes like plagiarism, and this is not only i this forum, plagiarism is a big mistake. And others may be also ifnleunce to the regulations.

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Quote from: Maus0728 on June 26, 2022, 03:30:42 AM

If people won't do shit that might result to their account getting negative trust and being banned -- you'll not worry about these kinds of things.

I say shits like defaulting a loan, plagiarism, merit/account selling, joining campaigns with prior history of scam, spamming and all other self explanatory issues that you think is not right. As long as you aren't doing these things, you are passively contributing to the betterment of the forum.

You just have to abide with the rules and not doing your own rules, that way your account will always be safe. And as long as your aim is to be productive and make positive contributions in the forum, then you are free from negative trust and banning. After all, we are one community here, and everything good will be earn through hardship and perseverance, and not on creating red flags because you are greedy enough to believe that it could make you rich instantly.

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Quote from: Maus0728 on June 26, 2022, 03:30:42 AM

If people won't do shit that might result to their account getting negative trust and being banned -- you'll not worry about these kinds of things.

I say shits like defaulting a loan, plagiarism, merit/account selling, joining campaigns with prior history of scam, spamming and all other self explanatory issues that you think is not right. As long as you aren't doing these things, you are passively contributing to the betterment of the forum.

I wholeheartedly agree with you.

Unfortunately, there are newbies who primarily join this forum with an evil intent already in mind. They tend to apply for various of non-collateral loans in which they are not completely qualified for. Despite all the rules that have been posted and even warnings, these newbies still tend to violate the said rules which result to the banning of their accounts.

Again, just do not do anything that will get you into trouble. If you have a clear conscience with a willing mind to learn, then nothing will ever happen to your account.

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Quote from: Yawa2020 on June 26, 2022, 08:00:11 AM

Quote from: Coyster on June 26, 2022, 06:58:32 AM

OP claimed to be ready to learn, but i do not think that is the case, since then op has gone back to the bounty section and has been posting report after report, and now this thread. I am afraid this is not how to learn or contribute to the forum, you need to start doing things that will make Bitcointalk a better place, and you are doing none of that as of this time.

If I understand you correctly you mean ready learning is by abstaining from bounty? 🤔 I need more explanation please

Well if I am to put it straight to you, then yes! You don't do so well bounty hunting on the platform. You are vey much at libertybon the last to choose but, bounty hunting is so consuming and often lives you with no energy to do some meaningful contribution to the forum.
You can tell by your increasingly difficulty in making contributions to the forum with regards to the deductions in OP. It's not the form rules as per fear of getting negative feedback or being banned as your subject to the thread portrays but the gact that, you can't completely work them both together. Bounty hunting like he'll as evident in your post history and still find time to visit other boards on the forum.

Perhaps you expect the bitcoin forum to be lawless, would that suit you better?
Mind you, majority of the bounty projects out there turns out to be scams as per being pump and dump coins/tokens/projects. You might just be promoting a future scam as well and earning useless tokens or tips. You might want to change your approach to the form and focus your mindset gaining knowledge before coins/tokens. Mean while, view the ruls as guidelines/directives and you would merge easily.

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Negative trust or being ban on this forum is not something that is given anyhow, for you to get a negative trust that mean your level of offense must be highly bad. Like maybe using a multiple account on the forum or so, you just don't get negative trust on sharing your view on a post on this forum.

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Quote from: Yawa2020 on June 28, 2022, 03:45:23 AM

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The fact is that only few BM use Google sheet to collect weekly reports for bounties. Honestly, the bounty this days doesn't worth the stress at all

I would rather concentrate on the few than have numerous of them that will make my post history look childish if I were you. Look, I also participated in bounties in the past and got links littered on my profile too. However, once I realized that there were BMs using Google sheets I switched over to them. It was better for me that way until I finally came to the conclusion that bounty was a 90% lose - 10% win rate for hunters. You should've seen my social media handles then and how crypto littered they were.

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Ranking up is not as easy as you might assume thou.

Of course, I never said it was. In fact, I've continued to maintain that meriting posts is a subjective decision. It doesn't mean that most merited posts are worth it. Don't relent in putting out constructive posts, nonetheless. Your hard work will one day drag providence to you. It's already reflecting on your merit count.

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Quote from: Yawa2020 on June 28, 2022, 03:45:23 AM

The fact is that only few BM use Google sheet to collect weekly reports for bounties. Honestly, the bounty this days doesn't worth the stress at all but since we are already in it then, we must finish it and think of other alternatives. Ranking up is not as easy as you might assume thou.

I celebrate your willingness to change and contribute meaningfully to the forum. You are not alone in this case of fear of negative trust and ban. But I have learnt to play according to the rules and ensure that my intention always should be far from cheating. Sometimes I still feel sacred because human errors might be inevitable but I enjoy the forum a day per time and don't worry about tomorrow. It is not easy to rank up like you said but if you put more effort and give more attention to research, you would indeed excel. Sometimes you might take so much time to prepare a post and someone might call it a shit post. Don't give up because one day your effort would be recognized and you would get all the credits you deserve. Hoping to see your improved works and congratulations in advance for ranking up.

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Quote from: lovesmayfamilis on June 26, 2022, 10:49:16 AM

If you don’t pretend, be sincere, and don’t lie to yourself or others, no one will ever be able to ban your account or leave a negative tag.

exactly.
here on the forum, there is not a single rule that is outside the norms of correct behaviour in the real world.
so I don't know why special instructions are needed on how to behave on the forum, just needs to be as in real life. Stealing, insulting, belittling, harassing (spam), why do we have to emphasize that it is not desirable to behave on the forum, whether it is acceptable IRL?

This topic is about the fear of punishment for such behaviour.
What this fear is? because someone does not know how to distinguish what is theft, unauthorized use (plagiarism) or insult or even spam?

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Quote from: lovesmayfamilis on June 26, 2022, 10:49:16 AM

I see that the OP is willing to change his line.

Well said. A few minute glance at Op's profile reveals it all. Op is willing to change his line, but it will be very difficult to do so on a go. As pointed out by you, he can do it gradually.

The bounty section is purely another world in this forum. The world exists 80% off forum and 20% in forum. You can see a bounter hunter with Sr member or hero activity who does not know how to quote and reply to posts.
Op you are not late, all you need is sincerity to yourself and to the community, then being desirous to learn. You will enjoy the forum better here.

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Quote from: Mpamaegbu on June 28, 2022, 02:32:46 AM

Another suggestion – You may want to deemphasize bounty reports and links. They make your post history untidy, kind of. As some users have suggested in other threads, If you must get involved in bounties; seek ones that use Google report sheets. That way you keep your bounty reports off your profile, except for POA (authentication post) which is just a one time thing to show your interest in the bounty as demanded by BMs for record purposes. Mind you, bounties are shitty this day. Most of them aren't worth the stress. You only end up wasting your time with them. Why not concentrate on creating constructive posts and then rank up. Signature campaigns are well better off.

The fact is that only few BM use Google sheet to collect weekly reports for bounties. Honestly, the bounty this days doesn't worth the stress at all but since we are already in it then, we must finish it and think of other alternatives. Ranking up is not as easy as you might assume thou.

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Quote from: Yawa2020 on June 26, 2022, 12:09:07 PM

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Amazing! Thanks for your recommendations. I will improve in my next post.

Another suggestion – You may want to deemphasize bounty reports and links. They make your post history untidy, kind of. As some users have suggested in other threads, If you must get involved in bounties; seek ones that use Google report sheets. That way you keep your bounty reports off your profile, except for POA (authentication post) which is just a one time thing to show your interest in the bounty as demanded by BMs for record purposes. Mind you, bounties are shitty this day. Most of them aren't worth the stress. You only end up wasting your time with them. Why not concentrate on creating constructive posts and then rank up. Signature campaigns are well better off.

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Quote from: Mpamaegbu on June 26, 2022, 11:35:00 AM

Next time you may want to properly state the threads you're referring to in their titles, even bearing links. It makes it easier for both you and the readers to know the exact links they're about opening like what the user below you did. All you've to do is check other users to find out how they do it by acting like you're quoting them and you will see how it's done. Putting your posts that way improves your posting style (I'm sure you will like to write like a pro too). Using your links above as instant examples, let me make myself clearer...

1. Newbies - Read before posting
2. Bitcointalk posting etiquette
3. Unofficial list of (official) Bitcointalk.org rules, guidelines, FAQ
4. Ratimov's Forum Guides, Tutorials & Lists

You may want to add – The Fear of Newbies posting in Meta too 😳

Amazing! Thanks for your recommendations. I will improve in my next post.

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There are always outliers but IMHO if you are doing the right thing in here by yourself and by others, then 95- 99% of the time you will have nothing to worry about and this should generally not be of concern. So it's very simple to overcome these fears, unless one may have engaged in dubious behaviors that has them worried.

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