The fear of Negative trust and Ban - page 2.

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Quote from: Yawa2020 on June 26, 2022, 03:38:43 AM

I'll recommend these threads for guidance.
1. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/newbies-read-before-posting-1689727
2. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bitcointalk-posting-etiquette-5184741
3. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/unofficial-list-of-official-bitcointalkorg-rules-guidelines-faq-703657
4. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5277049

Next time you may want to properly state the threads you're referring to in their titles, even bearing links. It makes it easier for both you and the readers to know the exact links they're about opening like what the user below you did. All you've to do is check other users to find out how they do it by acting like you're quoting them and you will see how it's done. Putting your posts that way improves your posting style (I'm sure you will like to write like a pro too). Using your links above as instant examples, let me make myself clearer...

1. Newbies - Read before posting
2. Bitcointalk posting etiquette
3. Unofficial list of (official) Bitcointalk.org rules, guidelines, FAQ
4. Ratimov's Forum Guides, Tutorials & Lists

You may want to add – The Fear of Newbies posting in Meta too 😳

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I suspect that this is not the OP's first account on the forum; otherwise, he would not care much about negative tags and bans.

This suspicion arose from the fact that the first post is a report or registration for a bounty.

However, I don't see any coincidence to blame him for this, but on the contrary, I see that the OP is willing to change his line.

So OP, don't be shy about asking questions on the forum but use the search tool. Continue to learn and grow. Maybe the bounty should remain in your life, but it is better to allocate a minimum of your time to it. Try to create useful posts.

If you don’t pretend, be sincere, and don’t lie to yourself or others, no one will ever be able to ban your account or leave a negative tag.

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Quote from: Yawa2020 on June 26, 2022, 09:00:11 AM

If I understand you correctly you mean ready learning is by abstaining from bounty? 🤔 I need more explanation please

Whilst you are free to do whatever you want on the forum, as long as you are not breaking any rules, and participating in bounties is not against the rules, but if you want to learn, and as well contribute to the development of the forum, then you can't do it by participating solely in bounty campaigns like you do. When you spend all of your time in the bounty area, that means you will miss out on other more important boards in the forum relating to Bitcoin and other whatnots, and the discussions ongoing in them, thus how can you learn?

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Quote from: Coyster on June 26, 2022, 07:58:32 AM

OP claimed to be ready to learn, but i do not think that is the case, since then op has gone back to the bounty section and has been posting report after report, and now this thread. I am afraid this is not how to learn or contribute to the forum, you need to start doing things that will make Bitcointalk a better place, and you are doing none of that as of this time.

If I understand you correctly you mean ready learning is by abstaining from bounty? 🤔 I need more explanation please

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Quote from: Yawa2020 on June 26, 2022, 03:38:43 AM

It's an undeniable fact that, the fear of Negative trust and being ban from the forum is the reason most newbies with myself inclusive, do not contribute much to the growth of the forum.

Do not make a conclusive statement with words like "undeniable fact" when you can't speak for all the newbies. There are many reasons why some newbies have not started contributing here gainfully, Many are struggling to adjust to contributing to general discussions, some naturally do not know how to express themselves, some are still tensed thinking their contribution will not be valid etc there are so many reasons unique to every newbie.

Plus if you are truly a newbie, the probability of you knowing about something as negative trust is very slim even bans (I had no idea about the trust system for a while when I was a newbie). That is why as a newbie when you make your first contribution indicating that you are a new user, The rules of the forum is usually the first thing that is pointed out to you by more experience users here to familiarize yourself with. The purpose is not to scare you but to welcome you here and show you that unlike other forums that they may have come across without rules, things are done quite differently here.

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Quote from: Alisha-k on June 26, 2022, 07:59:36 AM

Most times learning the hard way is better. The various forum rules still points to one direction avoiding plagiarism, shit posts, scam and cheat.

Now are you avoiding any of that by promoting 1xbit, a scam sportsbook & casino. You actually received negative feedbacks yourself on that, but yet you are still promoting 1xbit, how do you do that and still be able to say this:

Quote from: Alisha-k on June 26, 2022, 07:59:36 AM

I do believe any one can be the best the can on the forum it is a matter of devotion, research, commitment and content.

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Most times learning the hard way is better. The various forum rules still points to one direction avoiding plagiarism, shit posts, scam and cheat. Be your self on the forum. I do believe any one can be the best the can on the forum it is a matter of devotion, research, commitment and content. The fear of Negative trust and Ban should be the beginning of your study so you can always give out the best

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The OP earned his first three merits yesterday as a sort of encouragement for him to change how he views the forum and actually start contributing constructively. OP even had this to say afterwards:

Quote from: Yawa2020 on June 25, 2022, 07:54:40 AM

I must commend your generosity for giving me merit even after my flaws. Like I use to say in most of my posts here, I'm ready to learn from anybody that's willing to carry me along boss 🙌

OP claimed to be ready to learn, but i do not think that is the case, since then op has gone back to the bounty section and has been posting report after report, and now this thread. I am afraid this is not how to learn or contribute to the forum, you need to start doing things that will make Bitcointalk a better place, and you are doing none of that as of this time.

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Personally, I don’t think this forum is such a scary and dangerous place that new members don’t dare write and contribute for fear of punishment. Grin

Where did you get such a conclusion?
I know a lot of members who started as a newbie, at first they were a little insecure because they didn't have a lot of knowledge and experience in the crypto, but over time they learned, gained experience and reached the legendary rank.
Of course, there is another category of members, who come to this forum solely because of the possibility of earning money through bounty campaigns.
If such members start spamming the forum with their posts or plagiarizing the content, it is quite clear that they will be punished for violating the rules of the forum and I do not see anything unusual there, so it is on every online forum.

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Quote from: Yawa2020 on June 26, 2022, 03:38:43 AM

It's an undeniable fact that, the fear of Negative trust and being ban from the forum is the reason most newbies with myself inclusive, do not contribute much to the growth of the forum.

There's a saying that goes " if you can't contribute to bringing a solution to the problem of a person then, try not to add to it", so it's better if at the moment you don't have any meaningful contributions to give to the forum just hold on until you do have one, and not to try engaging yourself into activities that could hamper and put a threat to your repute.

Lastly, let's give ourselves to reading and we will know more so as to have better contributions to bring in whenever.

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Quote from: Yawa2020 on June 26, 2022, 03:38:43 AM

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I'm pretty sure that, thoroughly going over the above threads might help you get rid of the fear of Negative trust and being ban from the forum. I wish you all good luck throughout your staying 💪

Negative Trust = just don't scam people and use alt accounts in bounty campaign. Ohh wait don't spam as well

Ban = just don't plagiarize and don't post anything that has malware in it (like what the hacker did to my account months ago, causing my account to be locked)

Your post history is different from this thread that you've made, but maybe this might help newbies out there.

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Quote from: Yawa2020 on June 26, 2022, 03:38:43 AM

It's an undeniable fact that, the fear of Negative trust and being ban from the forum is the reason most newbies with myself inclusive, do not contribute much to the growth of the forum.

I am pretty sure that isn't a fact, but your fabrication. If you are an honest member with honest intentions, then you have nothing to fear on this forum.
Where did you get the idea that most newbies are in fear of a ban or negative trust? Maybe you can give some examples of this claim of yours?

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Quote from: Yawa2020 on June 26, 2022, 03:38:43 AM

Although, it's quite kinda difficult to be conversant with all the forum rules since they are not documented in a single thread.

As I always say, this forum doesn't have strick rules, infact this forum doesn't have rules. It is one of the forum with 100% liberty. And everyone is ready to help one another. If you are honest in the real life, you will not have any problems in this forum.

Cheating: It is not acceptable in any sane society to cheat. When there is an open campaign, people will be struggling to get in and one person will fit 2 to 3 of his alt in same account. It is naturally bad, and an honest person will not do it.
Plagiarism: It is not acceptable in academics and the enlarge society to thief someone's intellectual property and pass them as yours. You see that it is not peculiar to only this forum.
Spamming: No forum and even social media welcomes spamming. In order to promote healthy conversation, spamming is frowned at.

An honest person can stay as long as you can think in this forum without running into problems.

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Quote from: Yawa2020 on June 26, 2022, 03:38:43 AM

It's an undeniable fact that, the fear of Negative trust and being ban from the forum is the reason most newbies with myself inclusive, do not contribute much to the growth of the forum.

is it actually the reason why newbies don't contribute much to the forum? I mean, just like what Lucius has said, focusing on bounty campaigns is actually the reason why a lot of "newbies" doesn't participate in the forum discussions. anyone who is actually interested in contributing to the forum would not have a hard time following the rules.

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Because of his/her free mind, an honest user always has a free mind and fears nothing. The links you provide are very useful, as well as following the forum rules and regulations will allow the user to think freely in the forum. I hope we will take note, and keep in mind that negative trust is for cheaters, while the ban is for plagiarizer users, as the forum rules strictly prohibit such behavior.
Fear not if you have a clear mind and can follow rules.

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Quote from: Yawa2020 on June 26, 2022, 03:38:43 AM

It's an undeniable fact that, the fear of Negative trust and being ban from the forum is the reason most newbies with myself inclusive, do not contribute much to the growth of the forum.

I think your post history tells a completely different story, and that focusing on bounty campaigns is actually the real reason why members like you don't participate in forum discussions - no one will ban you for no reason, but it's true that some use feedback trust inappropriately, which is a completely different story.

Quote from: Yawa2020 on June 26, 2022, 03:38:43 AM

Although, it's quite kinda difficult to be conversant with all the forum rules since they are not documented in a single thread. I guess the reason for this is due to the large nature of the forum and as such each section might have different and interrelated rules.

All the unofficial rules are in one of the threads you list in your post, and if each new member read and understood them, the moderators would have a lot less work to do than is the case now. A person who knows in real life what is good and what is bad, what is legitimate and what is illegal, even if he does not read the rules, will not run into any major problems. If someone cheats, steals and lies in real life, no forum rules will help them be better in the online world.

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I have no idea why you need to worry about those stuffs when it's really easy to prevent it.

Negative trust: This mostly because they're scam and cheating in the same campaign.
Ban: Mostly because plagiarism, shitposter have very low chance for being banned.

This mean, if you're create a post and include all the original sources, also didn't have intention to become bad people, you're 100% fine.

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The forum rules are not authoritarian regulations which are peculiar to this community alone, rather they are general rules of engagement when discussing on an online platform.
Note that only 2 rules would get you outrightly banned;
• Plagiarism, and
• Posting malwares,
It would be 3 if you include repeated spamming, but this comes after different amounts of temporary bans.

You do not need to be conversant with the forum rules to be aware that these (listed above) are not the right way to communicate with others.

There are other rules one might not be too familiar with online, like no referral links, deleting old bumps etc, but these would not get you a negative trust or a ban.
Newbies should read the forum rules and stickies in the different threads they visit, but do not shy away from posting if your intent is just to read and learn. Remember the rules are not fixed but determined on a case by case basis.

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If people won't do shit that might result to their account getting negative trust and being banned -- you'll not worry about these kinds of things.

I say shits like defaulting a loan, plagiarism, merit/account selling, joining campaigns with prior history of scam, spamming and all other self explanatory issues that you think is not right. As long as you aren't doing these things, you are passively contributing to the betterment of the forum.

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Quote from: _act_ on June 26, 2022, 03:52:25 AM

You have not included Newbies - Read before posting, it is very important for newbies to read it. It can also be found on beginners and help board which is among the first threads that were pinned.

Thank you for calling my attention. I will edit and include it now.

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