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Elon Musk will come up with "crazy genius" ideas that he is known for, and it will not work and he will say that he was "ready to fight but Mark didn't want to do it that way". I mean he could even say that he will go to Space with his spaceships and then fight there with him, and when Mark refuses then Elon will say "as you can see he refused the fight!!". Its really stupid, just do it, you need a ref and a ring that's it, even a single cam from someone shooting it with their phones would be enough at this point, all people would care about would be seeing one of them win, not the fight itself. Its %100 obvious that he is going to end up losing and that is why he is making these moves.

Zuck already dropped the idea and is looking to focus on his next fight with 'real' fighters based on his new post in Threads. He's already not interested since he knows that Elon is just bluffing, and he already offered tons of things to set the fight up and still, nothing is happening. I guess Mark no longer wants to be involved in this cheap marketing gimmick that Elon Musk is trying to do for himself.
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Now that Elon knows he can't beat Mark in a fight, the next up is "threads is not as good as twitter!!" as a response to it? I mean come on, where is the fight, I don't care about twitter or threads, I care about the fight, is Elon too chicken to have the fight on live TV just like any other fighter in the world?

Why is he trying to run around and find other alternatives and not just straight up goes against Mark? What's the point of having a big debate over this when you are too chicken to actually fight? Lets face it, Elon is just all talk and no action type of guy, he can't fight Mark, he can't fight even his own shadow, he was never capable of doing it and now he is trying to make up stuff and avoid it as much as he can.

we have to look at the ages of these two people, Elon Musk he's 52 years old, the guy has never been a professional fighter, so I highly doubt his body would take the brunt of hard punches, if they were going to boxe, but if they were going to do these mixed martial arts he has no nostalgia for withstand goals like strong kicks, falls to the ground, and blows with the armpit and there is the issue of taking into account that people his age are more likely to have heart problems, so I don't think it would be a good idea for him to fight against Mark Zuckerberg who is much younger than him, Mark Zuckerberg is 39 years old, so he is still at an age where even if he has not been a professional fighter he has the health and physique to withstand a fight

against a 52-year-old person, this fight is something that even on paper it is visible that Mark Zuckerberg would win easily, but the biggest problem will be if during the fight Elon Musk has bad health during the fight, this could have consequences bads for images of the two fighters. That's why in my opinion it's much better than the two fighters just fighting virtually on the internet that way nobody gets hurt physically. From what I see, Mark Zuckerberg is trying to succeed in creating his new social network to compete with Twitter, but it will be an action that will not be very successful. he was successful with facebook and instagram mass competing with twitter is useless, twitter would only lose to telegram in my opinion.
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Elon Musk will come up with "crazy genius" ideas that he is known for, and it will not work and he will say that he was "ready to fight but Mark didn't want to do it that way". I mean he could even say that he will go to Space with his spaceships and then fight there with him, and when Mark refuses then Elon will say "as you can see he refused the fight!!". Its really stupid, just do it, you need a ref and a ring that's it, even a single cam from someone shooting it with their phones would be enough at this point, all people would care about would be seeing one of them win, not the fight itself. Its %100 obvious that he is going to end up losing and that is why he is making these moves.
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Everything in camera frame will be ancient Rome

Laughable he has such a fantasy view of what the fight would be.  Its really unlikely to go ahead because they only have so much to lose as both are billionaires.  The people who do these fights are those up and coming, trying to make their fortune yes even if they might be millionaire fighters this is still nothing compared to a billionaire.
  Neither Zuck or Elon ever have to do a thing again to be rich every day the rest of this century, to go into a fight and maybe induce an injury which might give some kind of pain daily for the rest of your life makes little sense.   A young gun making a name for themselves they take this risk and its worth it; plus just fighting when you are older promotes more possibility of injuries, vision damage anything at all is possible and has little value to such high worth individuals.  Both players in this fight should just donate 10m each to a charity,  Elon loves nonsense and maybe its good publicity but I dont imagine their staff or insurance coverage, legal team etc.  would even allow the fight to complete.

It will be an unfortunate thing if it will really happen in ancient Rome because that city is full of history that involves confidence, strength and power like a true Warrior fighting for a valid reason whom both Zuckerberg and Musk doesn't have. It will just give the city an embarrassment that may not be forgotten if they will let that happen on their ground. Furthermore, they already have a place and yet the date is still unknown up to this point, which is a sign that it will never happen.
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Laughable he has such a fantasy view of what the fight would be.  Its really unlikely to go ahead because they only have so much to lose as both are billionaires.  The people who do these fights are those up and coming, trying to make their fortune yes even if they might be millionaire fighters this is still nothing compared to a billionaire.
  Neither Zuck or Elon ever have to do a thing again to be rich every day the rest of this century, to go into a fight and maybe induce an injury which might give some kind of pain daily for the rest of your life makes little sense.   A young gun making a name for themselves they take this risk and its worth it; plus just fighting when you are older promotes more possibility of injuries, vision damage anything at all is possible and has little value to such high worth individuals.  Both players in this fight should just donate 10m each to a charity,  Elon loves nonsense and maybe its good publicity but I dont imagine their staff or insurance coverage, legal team etc.  would even allow the fight to complete.
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I wouldn't be surprised if boxers and fighters all over the world will release some statements to somehow condemn the fight between Zuckerberg and Musk because they have every right to do it as it wasn't easy for them to achieve what they have and then there are this billionaires who can just make it happen with just one snap of their fingers.
On the other hand, they should also understand by now that life is truly unfair and that is the reality we're living in, it's either digest it or fight with that same right but in the end, you will not get to where you want because just as mentioned, life is unfair.

This fight is just an exhibition match which means that it has no value for professional records. Anyone can fight on ring or octagon by just paying the fee. Influencer like Jake Paul and others manage to fight pro on an exhibition match while the two billionaires is just fighting for each other without representing any sports.

It’s like a fight to settle disagreement. It’s absurd to make a negative opinion about this match just because you are professional on that specific sports because sports is for everyone. Only the professional records should be their concern which is not the case on this fight.

What we're trying to say is that the fame and money is following them without any troubles at all, that is why it might be quite unfair to the real fighters who actually got themselves into the process just to get the fame and money, you know, they have to climb the ladder and prove themselves who they are and in the end, it's just all about the money and fame. We just don't know for sure but there is also a chance that they would let this go because it doesn't have anything to do with them.
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I wouldn't be surprised if boxers and fighters all over the world will release some statements to somehow condemn the fight between Zuckerberg and Musk because they have every right to do it as it wasn't easy for them to achieve what they have and then there are this billionaires who can just make it happen with just one snap of their fingers.
On the other hand, they should also understand by now that life is truly unfair and that is the reality we're living in, it's either digest it or fight with that same right but in the end, you will not get to where you want because just as mentioned, life is unfair.

This fight is just an exhibition match which means that it has no value for professional records. Anyone can fight on ring or octagon by just paying the fee. Influencer like Jake Paul and others manage to fight pro on an exhibition match while the two billionaires is just fighting for each other without representing any sports.

It’s like a fight to settle disagreement. It’s absurd to make a negative opinion about this match just because you are professional on that specific sports because sports is for everyone. Only the professional records should be their concern which is not the case on this fight.

The truth is that I am very Curious to see these two fight, even though it is not something where they will do a lot of damage, I want to see the fighting style of a Maark Zuckenber, that in my opinion I have never seen a hostile attitude towards anyone, everything the opposite, but I know that he must be a person who must fight very well , normally the people who are quietest are the ones who fight the most, it's just what I think, on the other hand I see Elon doing more of those people who always seek to obtain something else, that is, they are looking for a fight , they talk , they speculate , I like the environment that they are going to do it, in a coliseum I think, this makes it look and Sound very spicy and I like it, not all of us have had the Opportunity to Fight in a type of ring like that, so anyone would like to give a good start, as long as they are at the level , because I would not ask to fight an Inoue who I know can knock me out in a short Period of time.

UFC President Dana White explains what went wrong with the Mark Zuckerberg vs. Elon Musk negotiations  



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However, Musk did take to ‘X’ saying:

“The fight will be managed by my and Zuck’s foundations (not UFC). Livestream will be on this platform and Meta. Everything in camera frame will be ancient Rome, so nothing modern at all.”

“Everything done will pay respect to the past and present of Italy. And all proceeds go to veterans.”

Dana White was keen on the two fighting in the UFC, but is reflecting on what’s gone wrong, speaking to ‘TMZ Sports’ the UFC President said:

“So (Zuckerberg) and I talk multiple times a week. We (had) dinner last Monday. He’s very serious about competing…What he was saying in response to Elon was, ‘There are tons of professional organizations out there, and this is the way that this should be done.’ Not in some backyard or whatever he was saying. Elon’s hilarious.”
 

Source: https://www.bjpenn.com/mma-news/ufc/ufc-president-dana-white-explains-what-went-wrong-with-the-mark-zuckerberg-vs-elon-musk-negotiations/  

Well, whatever the reasons for both, it is something that could not happen, here the important thing is that I want to see these two in action, I would like to see the claw that Elon Musk has, because he is very sure of his way of doing fight, which I think is excellent, but what I'm most curious about is seeing Mark in action, because the things that happen here are that they are both very influential, so I don't know to what extent it will be seen as something Respectful , or something already set up so that it can be pleasing to the public, that's why I'm curious to see this kind of fight.

Now whoever wins Between these two I would like to win Better, I don't have a contender for whom I can Say, this is good for this or that , without even giving Details of his way of Training or anything, it is difficult to Speculate , at least for my is.
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If there are any boxers approaching the two billionaires, it will more likely be about representing them in a fight which the 2 billionaires will be happy to host and make money out of these boxers. And what is at stake is probably what the billionaires are going to discuss.

Assuming the two really agreed to fight, I don't see a point for boxers opposing the fight to happen when we have seen influencers and onlyfans girls fighting. But the physicians of Zucker and Elon will probably find an excuse for both not to fight just like Elon undergoing surgery.

Maybe Zuckerberg is serious about his newfound urge of getting into the ring to test his skills. But this nerd billionaire was late to realize that he was only trolled or being tripped by Elon Musk. And we know Elon is also good at trolling and making some stuff that can trend online.

Seriously though if people are following Zuck, Elon, and the fighting community and its media; Zuck is constantly training for over a year or even earlier. So it doesn't make sense for Musk to make the challenge serious other than getting attention once again. And greedy Dana White thought he can set the fight thru his UFC. Cheesy

But this potential match even not a professional one is actually gaining attention from the media and boxing fans, after all, they are two of the wealthiest people on earth right now.
It's quite true that the discussion about the possibility of this match happening has been a major topic for media houses, both boxing and karate fans and of course their business fans.
Perhaps, if we keep talking about it so much so, it might get to the camp of both parties(Elon Musk & Mark Zuckerberg) that they might reconsider their options and train even better to feature in the fixture for real.

The only person that will really train hard for this bout is Mark Zuckerberg. For Elon, this is just another opportunity to give emphasis and exposure to his businesses. He's not the kind of guy who'll really go serious in these types of schemes. He'd rather crunch numbers in his offices, or be the "admirable CEO" that he's trying to portray rather than go out of his way and be fit for a one-day bout that will not net him millions. I doubt this will ever come to fruition.
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If there are any boxers approaching the two billionaires, it will more likely be about representing them in a fight which the 2 billionaires will be happy to host and make money out of these boxers. And what is at stake is probably what the billionaires are going to discuss.

Assuming the two really agreed to fight, I don't see a point for boxers opposing the fight to happen when we have seen influencers and onlyfans girls fighting. But the physicians of Zucker and Elon will probably find an excuse for both not to fight just like Elon undergoing surgery.

Maybe Zuckerberg is serious about his newfound urge of getting into the ring to test his skills. But this nerd billionaire was late to realize that he was only trolled or being tripped by Elon Musk. And we know Elon is also good at trolling and making some stuff that can trend online.

Seriously though if people are following Zuck, Elon, and the fighting community and its media; Zuck is constantly training for over a year or even earlier. So it doesn't make sense for Musk to make the challenge serious other than getting attention once again. And greedy Dana White thought he can set the fight thru his UFC. Cheesy

But this potential match even not a professional one is actually gaining attention from the media and boxing fans, after all, they are two of the wealthiest people on earth right now.
It's quite true that the discussion about the possibility of this match happening has been a major topic for media houses, both boxing and karate fans and of course their business fans.
Perhaps, if we keep talking about it so much so, it might get to the camp of both parties(Elon Musk & Mark Zuckerberg) that they might reconsider their options and train even better to feature in the fixture for real.
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If there are any boxers approaching the two billionaires, it will more likely be about representing them in a fight which the 2 billionaires will be happy to host and make money out of these boxers. And what is at stake is probably what the billionaires are going to discuss.

Assuming the two really agreed to fight, I don't see a point for boxers opposing the fight to happen when we have seen influencers and onlyfans girls fighting. But the physicians of Zucker and Elon will probably find an excuse for both not to fight just like Elon undergoing surgery.

Maybe Zuckerberg is serious about his newfound urge of getting into the ring to test his skills. But this nerd billionaire was late to realize that he was only trolled or being tripped by Elon Musk. And we know Elon is also good at trolling and making some stuff that can trend online.

Seriously though if people are following Zuck, Elon, and the fighting community and its media; Zuck is constantly training for over a year or even earlier. So it doesn't make sense for Musk to make the challenge serious other than getting attention once again. And greedy Dana White thought he can set the fight thru his UFC. Cheesy

Zuckerberg may be serious of putting up a fight with Musk, but yes, Musk may just be all talks and doesn't really want to go inside the ring.
But for sure this exhibition fight will fetch a lot of spectators because they are known personalities. However, it seems that Musk is just trolling here.
We may be just here for long discussion but this won't happen in reality because one camp is not so serious in making it happen.
But this potential match even not a professional one is actually gaining attention from the media and boxing fans, after all, they are two of the wealthiest people on earth right now.
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If there are any boxers approaching the two billionaires, it will more likely be about representing them in a fight which the 2 billionaires will be happy to host and make money out of these boxers. And what is at stake is probably what the billionaires are going to discuss.

Assuming the two really agreed to fight, I don't see a point for boxers opposing the fight to happen when we have seen influencers and onlyfans girls fighting. But the physicians of Zucker and Elon will probably find an excuse for both not to fight just like Elon undergoing surgery.

Maybe Zuckerberg is serious about his newfound urge of getting into the ring to test his skills. But this nerd billionaire was late to realize that he was only trolled or being tripped by Elon Musk. And we know Elon is also good at trolling and making some stuff that can trend online.

Seriously though if people are following Zuck, Elon, and the fighting community and its media; Zuck is constantly training for over a year or even earlier. So it doesn't make sense for Musk to make the challenge serious other than getting attention once again. And greedy Dana White thought he can set the fight thru his UFC. Cheesy
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I wouldn't be surprised if boxers and fighters all over the world will release some statements to somehow condemn the fight between Zuckerberg and Musk because they have every right to do it as it wasn't easy for them to achieve what they have and then there are this billionaires who can just make it happen with just one snap of their fingers.
On the other hand, they should also understand by now that life is truly unfair and that is the reality we're living in, it's either digest it or fight with that same right but in the end, you will not get to where you want because just as mentioned, life is unfair.

This fight is just an exhibition match which means that it has no value for professional records. Anyone can fight on ring or octagon by just paying the fee. Influencer like Jake Paul and others manage to fight pro on an exhibition match while the two billionaires is just fighting for each other without representing any sports.

It’s like a fight to settle disagreement. It’s absurd to make a negative opinion about this match just because you are professional on that specific sports because sports is for everyone. Only the professional records should be their concern which is not the case on this fight.

You make good points about it not being a professional fight and instead a personal beef, which I think fighters don’t mind seeing.  They probably love it. Also, given the low fighter pay and Musk/Zuckerberg being billionaires, fighters aren’t lining up to condemn this fight, they’re lining up to try and get paid for their expertise as coaches or training partners.
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I wouldn't be surprised if boxers and fighters all over the world will release some statements to somehow condemn the fight between Zuckerberg and Musk because they have every right to do it as it wasn't easy for them to achieve what they have and then there are this billionaires who can just make it happen with just one snap of their fingers.
On the other hand, they should also understand by now that life is truly unfair and that is the reality we're living in, it's either digest it or fight with that same right but in the end, you will not get to where you want because just as mentioned, life is unfair.

This fight is just an exhibition match which means that it has no value for professional records. Anyone can fight on ring or octagon by just paying the fee. Influencer like Jake Paul and others manage to fight pro on an exhibition match while the two billionaires is just fighting for each other without representing any sports.

It’s like a fight to settle disagreement. It’s absurd to make a negative opinion about this match just because you are professional on that specific sports because sports is for everyone. Only the professional records should be their concern which is not the case on this fight.
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If there are any boxers approaching the two billionaires, it will more likely be about representing them in a fight which the 2 billionaires will be happy to host and make money out of these boxers. And what is at stake is probably what the billionaires are going to discuss.

Assuming the two really agreed to fight, I don't see a point for boxers opposing the fight to happen when we have seen influencers and onlyfans girls fighting. But the physicians of Zucker and Elon will probably find an excuse for both not to fight just like Elon undergoing surgery.
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Well, I guess we cannot really blame the public if some of them are loving the idea because if this will happen, it will be the first time where two billionaires will have a physical fight in front of the public and not behind closed doors despite the fact that they don't have any valid reasons in making the fight into reality.

It is funny. Out there in the world there are thousands perhaps millions of fights between regular people which may have more meaning that two rich men punching one another on the face because their fans told them so. It is like living in the clown world some many on the internet refer to in an ironic way.

I can also imagine the frustration of some professional boxers and fighters with have trained their whole adult life to.get a small fraction of the attention these two technological businessmen are getting on the internet. Life can be weird and unfair sometimes.

If this fight actually get planned, then it will become a marketing phenomenon by its own and probably even drawn the attention of serious sponsorships.

I wouldn't be surprised if boxers and fighters all over the world will release some statements to somehow condemn the fight between Zuckerberg and Musk because they have every right to do it as it wasn't easy for them to achieve what they have and then there are this billionaires who can just make it happen with just one snap of their fingers.
On the other hand, they should also understand by now that life is truly unfair and that is the reality we're living in, it's either digest it or fight with that same right but in the end, you will not get to where you want because just as mentioned, life is unfair.

It is very unlikely some boxers and boxing organizations will speak up against the publicity and attention this unconfirmed fight is getting. Because technically there is nothing illegal or controversial enough going on which would make sense to condemn, at least not in the eyes of the average person on the internet.

If they officially condemned this situation, they may end up being perceived as jealous or inflexible to the whole situation, it is simply bad PR. Actually, if they were intelligent enough, they should try to approach both Mark and Elon and try to organize the event with them, hosting previous fights of regular professional fighters before the big fight at the end which would be Elon vs Mark. That way many unknown fighters would take some of the attention for their own and push their careers forward.

Who knows, it may become the introduction into fighting for a completely new generation of fans.  Wink
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Now that Elon knows he can't beat Mark in a fight, the next up is "threads is not as good as twitter!!" as a response to it? I mean come on, where is the fight, I don't care about twitter or threads, I care about the fight, is Elon too chicken to have the fight on live TV just like any other fighter in the world?

Why is he trying to run around and find other alternatives and not just straight up goes against Mark? What's the point of having a big debate over this when you are too chicken to actually fight? Lets face it, Elon is just all talk and no action type of guy, he can't fight Mark, he can't fight even his own shadow, he was never capable of doing it and now he is trying to make up stuff and avoid it as much as he can.

This situation can be interpreted in different ways. Maybe Musk initially mocks Zuckerberg knowing his passion for martial arts (which, by the way, in my opinion is a really strange hobby for a businessman). Maybe you are making too serious conclusions based on facts that seem important to you, but for Musk they are just nonsense. And I doubt that Musk cares about anyone's opinion about his courage/cowardice, etc.
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Now that Elon knows he can't beat Mark in a fight, the next up is "threads is not as good as twitter!!" as a response to it? I mean come on, where is the fight, I don't care about twitter or threads, I care about the fight, is Elon too chicken to have the fight on live TV just like any other fighter in the world?

Why is he trying to run around and find other alternatives and not just straight up goes against Mark? What's the point of having a big debate over this when you are too chicken to actually fight? Lets face it, Elon is just all talk and no action type of guy, he can't fight Mark, he can't fight even his own shadow, he was never capable of doing it and now he is trying to make up stuff and avoid it as much as he can.

None of them are chicken, they are grown up men and see no real reason to go out and smash each other faces like savages. Both of them realize that winning or loosing wont change anything or give them anything. They are not clowns to have a fight just to make others happy. Imho fighting is for fighters, business men should do business. Everything should do the thing they are good at.
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Now that Elon knows he can't beat Mark in a fight, the next up is "threads is not as good as twitter!!" as a response to it? I mean come on, where is the fight, I don't care about twitter or threads, I care about the fight, is Elon too chicken to have the fight on live TV just like any other fighter in the world?

Why is he trying to run around and find other alternatives and not just straight up goes against Mark? What's the point of having a big debate over this when you are too chicken to actually fight? Lets face it, Elon is just all talk and no action type of guy, he can't fight Mark, he can't fight even his own shadow, he was never capable of doing it and now he is trying to make up stuff and avoid it as much as he can.
Well, whether Elon musk wont be able to beat Mark or not, my personal truth is that, I don't wanna see this fight, the idea was and is crazy in the first place, whoever came up with this idea, I would with all due respect say is senseless, whether it be musk or mark, there should never be any idea of this two billionaires coming together to fight, so for me, if Elon decides to reject the fight, I personally will not see him as a weaklene, but as a hero who stood for what he believed in, if I was Elon, I wouldn't have accepted any fight from anyone, not to talk of accepting a fight from mark, its so unprofessional, companies that have copyright issues with another company should go to court and have the issue resolved in the most possible and amicable way, not engage themselves in a fight, what happens to the party that loses? this could lead to inner resentments, which could lead to becoming a silent enemy to the winning party, most especially, if the loser feels he or she is cheated on, we have enough enemies already, lets make friends not enemies.
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What they are saying was just a pure nonsense because they just made it look like they were neighbors when in-fact they aren't, just a neighboring state but not literally neighbor that you could just knock from your home within a matter of minutes. And if I'm not mistaken, Elon Musk do actually have a home that is situated in Texas but he doesn't live in it because he only sleeps in SpaceX headquarters and made himself a little room there to sleep for a few hours before working again.
So what if he had knocked on Marks door?Then what?

People are really just putting too much attention with these kind of words but we cant really deny that even though these things turns out to be nonsense but surprisingly the public does really love
on how things been going. Even it is really just that clear that this one is indirectly trying out to showcase their company and some developments or whatsoever which they did make out
that having some mix of little trolling. They are really just that make a fun of the community.  Tongue

Well, I guess we cannot really blame the public if some of them are loving the idea because if this will happen, it will be the first time where two billionaires will have a physical fight in front of the public and not behind closed doors despite the fact that they don't have any valid reasons in making the fight into reality.

It is funny. Out there in the world there are thousands perhaps millions of fights between regular people which may have more meaning that two rich men punching one another on the face because their fans told them so. It is like living in the clown world some many on the internet refer to in an ironic way.

I can also imagine the frustration of some professional boxers and fighters with have trained their whole adult life to.get a small fraction of the attention these two technological businessmen are getting on the internet. Life can be weird and unfair sometimes.

If this fight actually get planned, then it will become a marketing phenomenon by its own and probably even drawn the attention of serious sponsorships.

I wouldn't be surprised if boxers and fighters all over the world will release some statements to somehow condemn the fight between Zuckerberg and Musk because they have every right to do it as it wasn't easy for them to achieve what they have and then there are this billionaires who can just make it happen with just one snap of their fingers.
On the other hand, they should also understand by now that life is truly unfair and that is the reality we're living in, it's either digest it or fight with that same right but in the end, you will not get to where you want because just as mentioned, life is unfair.
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Now that Elon knows he can't beat Mark in a fight, the next up is "threads is not as good as twitter!!" as a response to it? I mean come on, where is the fight, I don't care about twitter or threads, I care about the fight, is Elon too chicken to have the fight on live TV just like any other fighter in the world?

Why is he trying to run around and find other alternatives and not just straight up goes against Mark? What's the point of having a big debate over this when you are too chicken to actually fight? Lets face it, Elon is just all talk and no action type of guy, he can't fight Mark, he can't fight even his own shadow, he was never capable of doing it and now he is trying to make up stuff and avoid it as much as he can.
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