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Topic: The flipist method - page 6. (Read 13898 times)

hero member
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bitcoin hundred-aire
January 18, 2012, 10:30:26 AM
#58
that coin is smart!  Grin
legendary
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January 18, 2012, 10:11:20 AM
#57
You need to account for time of the day.  Randomize that as well.  Also, I would use multiple coins.  If you want historical data pm me.

I'll look into randomizing the time for trading if I get around to figuring out how to use Bitcoinica's API and automate this trading.

What do you mean by multiple coins?
legendary
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January 18, 2012, 10:10:01 AM
#56
The coin says we're still in turbulent waters: It's a "do nothing" day, so I'm standing at the sidelines, watching the action.
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January 18, 2012, 04:17:37 AM
#55
I'm thinking of starting a trading experiment based on randomness. I tend to believe markets, like complex systems in general, are mostly chaotic and unpredictable. If this is true, then a random trading strategy should be as good as any. So, I figure it's time to put to practice an idea I've considered, as dictated by fine, ancient Persian customs, both sober (earlier) and inebriated (now): Starting 7th January 2012, 10 AM GMT, I intend to start a trading account, fund it with, say, 100 dollars (dollars to keep better protected from BTC volatility, 100 to make it a bit more interesting), and choose, by flipping a coin, every 24 hours whether to buy or sell. If I hold BTC and the coin says sell, I'll sell, if it says buy, I'll hold on, and vice versa.

I'd like input on a few things, keeping in mind I'm obviously willing to take total loss on my investment here:

-Is there any difference to starting an account on Bitcoinica or Mt. Gox, given that I intend to take a very low risk profile to prevent some sudden zhoutonging from mucking up the experiment. Currently I'm leaning towards simply making a new Gox account, but having a 1:1 Bitcoinica account would let me just take a screenshot of the current net value every day.

-How much should I trade with? I guess without leverage I may as well go all in, simply trading my entire balance at a time either way, as dictated by the coin toss.

-Apart from "this is a tremendously bad idea", is there anything I'm not considering here?

You need to account for time of the day.  Randomize that as well.  Also, I would use multiple coins.  If you want historical data pm me.
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January 18, 2012, 03:50:18 AM
#54
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dice_Man

"The Dice Man is a novel published in 1971 by George Cockcroft under the pen name Luke Rhinehart and tells the story of a psychiatrist who begins making life decisions based on the casting of dice."


This is a good idea. I will read this. It would be better if you could get a squirrel to roll the dice for you though.

(Yes, they will pick up dice and drop them if you don't scare them off... I was walking around with dice in my pocket one time)
legendary
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Borsche
January 18, 2012, 03:35:05 AM
#53
does look like a coin is smarter than most analytics in this market Smiley
legendary
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January 17, 2012, 05:04:39 AM
#52
Well, folks, we live in uncertain times. The flips told me to sell, so I did. I also did an extra flip to see whether to short or not, but the god of the coin says wait and see. So I have no position today, and my holdings are now 103.55918 USD.
legendary
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January 16, 2012, 12:08:45 PM
#51
Got to the second flip this time, which said to hold long. So still bullish, in the face of turbulence. P/L currently 2.522% in the green.
legendary
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January 15, 2012, 04:36:29 PM
#50
Today's first flip said to hold off from doing anything, so I stayed long. Looks like that bullishness was justified, with the exchange rate up to 6.9 or thereabouts, the profits are now a solid 7%. Unrealized, of course...
legendary
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January 14, 2012, 06:36:28 AM
#49
Again the first flip is 1 for act, the second 1 for Bullish. So I'm sticking with my BTC, currently holding 15.0 BTC at a base price of $6.4299, unrealized loss of 0.155%. I sure hope the price doesn't drop below 0.12 or so or I get zhoutonged... Wink
legendary
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January 13, 2012, 08:18:49 AM
#48
Oh yea, I should update here. Not much to show, it's a bullish day again, according to the flip, so I'm keeping long. Unrealized profits around 1.5%.
legendary
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January 12, 2012, 08:32:48 AM
#47
Well, the first flip today was 2, so I do nothing. Just as well, as Bitcoinica seems to be having some issues... It's showing a buy price of 6.39 and a sell of 6.25, which is way off the mt gox charts. Not that I'd mind buying at that price but it's just a glitch as far as I can tell.
legendary
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January 11, 2012, 02:37:11 PM
#46
I think it's best you stay at 1:1 so the test lasts longer.

Yes, that way you're sure to lose.
legendary
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January 11, 2012, 02:30:45 PM
#45
I think it's best you stay at 1:1 so the test lasts longer.
donator
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January 11, 2012, 08:53:49 AM
#44
ah yes I see, I'd forgotten that you weren't using leverage, that also could be a flip option for 1:1, 2.5, 5 or 10 x
legendary
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January 11, 2012, 08:44:55 AM
#43
Without leverage I can't really double up if I'm already mostly all in. I guess I could have bought 1 coin more or so.
donator
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January 11, 2012, 08:41:23 AM
#42
The coin is bullish! First flip: 1 - act! 2nd flip: 1: buy!. So since I'm already long, I hold my position.



This leaves an unrealized net value of 103.85 USD currently.

shouldn't you be buying more that time, doubling your position or adding another $10 long or something
hero member
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January 11, 2012, 07:20:04 AM
#41
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dice_Man

"The Dice Man is a novel published in 1971 by George Cockcroft under the pen name Luke Rhinehart and tells the story of a psychiatrist who begins making life decisions based on the casting of dice."
legendary
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January 11, 2012, 06:45:19 AM
#40
The coin is bullish! First flip: 1 - act! 2nd flip: 1: buy!. So since I'm already long, I hold my position.



This leaves an unrealized net value of 103.85 USD currently.
legendary
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January 10, 2012, 06:50:38 AM
#39
I introduced the "to do or not to do" flip. This time, it told me to act, and the second flip told me to buy BTC. So I'm now long:


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