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May 06, 2018, 12:16:33 PM
I think holding back the restraining strategy is only done by people who have a very large trading capital whereas if you do not have a very large trading capital is definitely your capital will be stuck at a very high price and not too much gain because no longer trading capital.
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May 06, 2018, 12:05:23 PM
Selling at high and buying at low is good strategy but its takes skill on technical analysis. Right now, many people prefer trade on their crypto rather than hold because high fluctuation give opportunity to make profits

If all it takes is technical analysis, then a lot of people would have  become very rich by now. Unfortunately you need lots of luck as well. Hodling might not be as profitable as good trading, but it s a safe strategy. If Bitcoin succeeds then your strategy succeeds.

The main issue with technical analysis is that no one knows it but those who do know it don't use it. Fundamentally (if this word is ever applicable to TA), it is a loose set of tools where you can always find a couple of methods that would give you two opposite predictions for any given moment in the market. In simple terms, it means that you can always find a method or approach that would predict the price movement close to perfect (so-called Holy Grail of trading), with the only shortcoming that it would work only in retrospect.

It could be said that the whole TA works like a broken clock. You can safely and reliably expect it to show the correct time twice a day, but you don't know if it is correct right now, when you actually need to know the time.
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May 06, 2018, 09:46:49 AM
Yes it is not actual because you can't touch and saw it, but if you to gain a huge profit then you need to do a hold stategy to achieve it. We knows that it is very hard to decide because we don't really know what will happens of it but its not bad if you believe that this coins will grow up high. Keep believing it will bring you a happy life.
legendary
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May 06, 2018, 03:17:57 AM
Selling at high and buying at low is good strategy but its takes skill on technical analysis. Right now, many people prefer trade on their crypto rather than hold because high fluctuation give opportunity to make profits

Every one has the desire to buy bitcoin at low price and then sell it at high price, but in fact it require a good study, if you do not have good study in trading where you are going to invest your money, then you cannot make a good money from it. You need to remain in touch with the market regularly and should take a right decision in right time only then you can become succeeded in trading.
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May 05, 2018, 03:51:13 PM
I dont know how to react on that... the issue is that I`ve never trade any single coin, just got the from bounty and hold, so...
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May 05, 2018, 03:42:28 PM
Selling at high and buying at low is good strategy but its takes skill on technical analysis. Right now, many people prefer trade on their crypto rather than hold because high fluctuation give opportunity to make profits


If all it takes is technical analysis, then a lot of people would have  become very rich by now. Unfortunately you need lots of luck as well. Hodling might not be as profitable as good trading, but it s a safe strategy. If Bitcoin succeeds then your strategy succeeds.
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May 05, 2018, 03:00:48 PM
i think if I am still very confident that bitcoin will go back up so holding an asset in the long period is increasingly opening up opportunities in gaining substantial profit in the future especially to invest in bitcoin.

If someone is saying this about holding that it is not an authentic or useful method then might be that is correct, but only for his case. Not everyone is losing things in bitcoin holding. Reason is, these coins have shown such a great performance and now they are continuously increasing in the fame and popularity. The thing is, holding would be helpful for you at the ending time.
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May 05, 2018, 02:27:23 PM
Hold is not actual when some time ago, and now you can smile big because the hold is actual, the price keeps rising and looks stable proving that bitcoin immediately skyrocket.
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BountyMarketCap
May 05, 2018, 02:10:46 PM
I will keep hold and believe bitcoin will touch the price of $ 20k.
But everybody's predictions are different, but many experts say bitcoin will soar this year.
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May 05, 2018, 04:50:45 AM
Actually, people are now getting so practical, holding is such a way to avoid from losing but as market fluctuate every time seems to be not in practice. I mean, only few people are now on the way of holding that's why market trend today aren't be predictable and it is very often for changes.
Holding is not the best way to avoid losing because you can still lose a lot of money when you do hold for long term because you cannot see the future that the price will continue to climb up and the best way for me to avoid losing is to have a proper plan for your investment and always have a cut loss target so you will be able to be safe from getting huge losses.

The thing is, if you plan to hodl, the market will go up and it will go down with you simply watching. You won't lose then if you're not sellig during a red market. If anything, it even gives you opportunity to buy during those dips. When you hodl you already have a plan for your investment, a long term plan.
It depends on our decision making how we handle losses,  sometime we need to panic selling because we're depending on our status. Hodl our currency can lead us to fulfillment as we get huge money by spreading bitcoin as a good investment site .For me ,I can't say bitcoin will still exist in future but as we encourage people they can adopt bitcoin because the opportunities is so brighter.
Chances for loss detained in holding. Reason is, you are just seeing the market trending downwards and then upwards. People from different backgrounds are continually coming in bitcoins and hence the demand and supply changing with every passing moment. So ending, holders have an edge to just analyze the market and wait for the best time to make a hit.
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May 05, 2018, 02:00:40 AM
Day trading in the markets requires quick and accurate decision, making graph analysis, and following coin news. This can cause you to spend most of your time on the screen. It may have a high return, or it may cause high damage. Long-term investment requires working again. However, the differences are as follows. You'il look into the coin to invest in before the investment. You determine your risks and time to quit the investment, and then start waiting for a profit.

I'm not sure how many people actually employ (and enjoy) everything you said like making graph analysis and doing other complicated TA stuff. In simple terms, it is a daunting task for a mere mortal. Such things are for sophisticated trading systems which exclude human participation for the most part (I refer to HFT bots here). Typical day traders rather pursue a simple range strategy where you literally buy low, add some profit margin (usually a few percentages), and then sell when the price reaches the desired level. Just in case, most simple bots are employing this strategy as well.

To do more complicated things, you must have a trained brain and years of experience which is unlikely for the majority of trading folks in cryptoverse.
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May 05, 2018, 12:38:21 AM
This morning I saw an article where a guy made a simple calculation through Google trends about HODL strategy, and it showed that call to HODL used less and less from February of 2018. Popularity of word Bitcoin and crypto currency is also falling down.
Why it is so? Do not people believe in Bitcoin and it's bright future anymore?
No matter on such tend I am going to HODL my founds till bitcoin will not come back to 20k$ Grin
This was real investors did,never get tired of waiting.Hodl was not truly executed in thos moment in time.. it maybe because most new investors can't handle the pressure most especially they invested the amount in which they cannot afford to lose.Thoughts and speculations makes us fears that we might lose it all.I think its just about patience because wtihout it we can't enjoy the rollercoaster ride of being a bitcoiner.
Yes true, as a true investor it must have a strong belief and must always be optimistic with the future, the number of negative news and make the price down just do the opposite of buying, and now they deserve the appreciation of the big profits.
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May 04, 2018, 11:49:13 PM
This morning I saw an article where a guy made a simple calculation through Google trends about HODL strategy, and it showed that call to HODL used less and less from February of 2018. Popularity of word Bitcoin and crypto currency is also falling down.
Why it is so? Do not people believe in Bitcoin and it's bright future anymore?
No matter on such tend I am going to HODL my founds till bitcoin will not come back to 20k$ Grin
This was real investors did,never get tired of waiting.Hodl was not truly executed in thos moment in time.. it maybe because most new investors can't handle the pressure most especially they invested the amount in which they cannot afford to lose.Thoughts and speculations makes us fears that we might lose it all.I think its just about patience because wtihout it we can't enjoy the rollercoaster ride of being a bitcoiner.
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May 04, 2018, 06:51:02 PM
Day trading in the markets requires quick and accurate decision, making graph analysis, and following coin news. This can cause you to spend most of your time on the screen. It may have a high return, or it may cause high damage. Long-term investment requires working again. However, the differences are as follows. You'il look into the coin to invest in before the investment. You determine your risks and time to quit the investment, and then start waiting for a profit.
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May 04, 2018, 01:07:13 PM
The benefit of holding over long periods is that it will capture the general trend without being concerned with shorter term variance and day-to-day price fluctuations. The more you trade in and out, the more variance you expose yourself to in the day-to-day price movements and the medium term trends. The longer your time frame for holding, the smoother those price movements get, and you get the average of whatever the long term trend is. If you were an early adopter, the long term trend has been hugely positive, even though at any point there are constant small and medium (and even large) crashes. If you were trading daily, you might increase your gains by correctly guessing what way the market will move and catching it up and down, but far more likely you're inefficiently capturing the long term average upward movement by being out of the market for some of those times or guessing wrong some of the time.

If you use just a small percentage of your capital (no more than 3-5%) for day trading, you are likely to fare a lot better than by simple holding even if the long-term trend is in your favor (which is not set in stone, mind you). All financial markets are famous for their extreme volatility (obviously, that depends on your point of reference), so if you just buy and sell at a certain interval (like 2-3% of price change), you will hit it regardless of your trading skills. In this fashion, there is no need for guessing as you can stick to a more direct approach.

If the price breaks out of your trading range, you can either switch to a holding mode and let the profits grow in the usual way, thus getting back where you would be with no day trading involved, or start the cycle anew by buying back what you have sold on the way up (some part of that amount).
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May 04, 2018, 11:18:39 AM
This morning I saw an article where a guy made a simple calculation through Google trends about HODL strategy, and it showed that call to HODL used less and less from February of 2018. Popularity of word Bitcoin and crypto currency is also falling down.
Why it is so? Do not people believe in Bitcoin and it's bright future anymore?
No matter on such tend I am going to HODL my founds till bitcoin will not come back to 20k$ Grin

Holding is good when the market price is decreasing because you would not be able to determine if the market will increase even more or not, the reason why most of the traders are being successful is because they are patient enough to wait for the best price to come out before selling.
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May 04, 2018, 11:11:29 AM
The manipulation of the market by large whales has always been, But today it has not become sufficiently obvious and serious.
These manipulations are some of the things we will always end up seeing and there is really nothing we can do about it. One thing so far is just to either accept it or learn how to trade so you can at least make do with this to study the market, know what to do at every certain point in time and be safe even while trying to look for a way to take advantage of the fluctuating market. However, for those who cannot do all of these, it is better to just HODL.

Holding strategy may not work against whales manipulation but whales also might be preferring to get some good returns hence after manipulation and bottom prices, they will get into market with the same directions of every other holder. So, we may ignore those whales and their manipulations.

The benefit of holding over long periods is that it will capture the general trend without being concerned with shorter term variance and day-to-day price fluctuations. The more you trade in and out, the more variance you expose yourself to in the day-to-day price movements and the medium term trends. The longer your time frame for holding, the smoother those price movements get, and you get the average of whatever the long term trend is. If you were an early adopter, the long term trend has been hugely positive, even though at any point there are constant small and medium (and even large) crashes. If you were trading daily, you might increase your gains by correctly guessing what way the market will move and catching it up and down, but far more likely you're inefficiently capturing the long term average upward movement by being out of the market for some of those times or guessing wrong some of the time.
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May 04, 2018, 09:22:28 AM
The HODL depends from person to person and it might vary.
legendary
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May 04, 2018, 01:30:19 AM
The manipulation of the market by large whales has always been, But today it has not become sufficiently obvious and serious.
These manipulations are some of the things we will always end up seeing and there is really nothing we can do about it. One thing so far is just to either accept it or learn how to trade so you can at least make do with this to study the market, know what to do at every certain point in time and be safe even while trying to look for a way to take advantage of the fluctuating market. However, for those who cannot do all of these, it is better to just HODL.

Holding strategy may not work against whales manipulation but whales also might be preferring to get some good returns hence after manipulation and bottom prices, they will get into market with the same directions of every other holder. So, we may ignore those whales and their manipulations.
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May 03, 2018, 10:33:57 PM
This morning I saw an article where a guy made a simple calculation through Google trends about HODL strategy, and it showed that call to HODL used less and less from February of 2018. Popularity of word Bitcoin and crypto currency is also falling down.
Why it is so? Do not people believe in Bitcoin and it's bright future anymore?
No matter on such tend I am going to HODL my founds till bitcoin will not come back to 20k$ Grin

yes, i also have same principle on you no matter what happen i will still hold my coin until i see it to the top. it wont make any profit to sell it in a low value. i always believe that coin will bounceback after few days.. so its better for me to hold the coin... december would be an exciting month to wait as many investor would come to this date to trade into crypto currency.
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