Topic: The Identity of Satoshi Nakamoto (Read 11838 times)

So you mean Satoshi Nakamoto is just a conspiracy...
does your theory have a source? because so far many people believe that Satoshi exists but does not want to show himself to the public. if you are willing, please attach your source.

I did not give a name.. there is no name, I explained in light detail that BTC is an intelligence agency project and Nakamoto is simply a usenet poster ID ..  I gave an extensive list of reasons why, I noted there was no conclusive evidence for either theory but an overwhelming amount that favors Nakamoto being simply a myth and a poster ID to drop the white paper.

I guess so mate, many of these mined Bitcoin where kept for something like this to happen. Also, this could be not as we think, the coins could actually belong to other anybody in the industry, so, nobody should be tag to this Bitcoin.

Frankly speaking, we should actually forget  about this man called Satoshi Nakamoto, he has just moved on to other projects and we should think other things. Continuing in the search of where about Satoshi Nakamoto will always create unbalance ideas, he's gone and we're here to continue the journey.

What are you referring to There might be some reason why they deleted your post. Perhaps it is not that true at all and you compromised someone's privacy with it. The real identity of Satoshi Nakamoto is not uncovered up til now coz no one's really sure of who he is and where he come from, the network is decentralized and the only man in the beginning that you'll see is Hal and his bitcoin address.

I guess even the admins do not know Satoshi is, if you hit a spot then it might be on top of the discussion if not then the reasons are pretty obvious. 

I dropped the real identity of Nakamoto on Friday night. It was quietly removed by the admin in a soft censor and even removed my posting history.

Do you think I hit a soft spot ?   

If that Group that you are mentioning is holding 1,000,000 BTC then why need to sell thousand when they can sell even more?

and besides there is no relation the panicking market for the Gorup because they are surely capable of Standing this Bear market and don't need to sell this small amount to cover their expenses .

The coronavirus does not have any relation to the bitcoin because at the first place it is just the market transaction of the fiat currency and at the same time there are many people holding their coins because the halving is coming too right now and this is one of the most effective things they can do to make more income buy a lot of bitcoin so while the market is slowly recovering they can now be made a lot of profit, still we cannot identify what are the moves of the market because it is volatile but still there are a lot of things that you can identify what are the next graph of the bitcoin.

Recently somebody sold 1000 BTC which were never moved before - just mined and stored. Could it be that the actual person mining those 20 blocks was somebody from the group of people which created bitcoin? Now corona virus panic forced to sell?

I was interested in who Satoshi Nakamoto was, and I have researched many times, but I don't wonder anymore.
Satoshi Nakamoto would have done this if he wanted to explain himself, but he preferred to be secret, and I respect his decision.
Bitcoin created by Satoshi Nakamoto is now more than 10 years old, this is written in the history of economics.

Why not? not everyone must think like you, i admit that is really strange ofc, but Hall was a strange&brilliant guy, maybe he put some specials conditions to his family about his fortune... who know? there is lot of things that we "will" never know, people should never discard any possibilities...

He is not Satoshi Nakamoto, why? Here is one clue.

Look at the very first transaction that took place, basically Satoshi sent Hal 10 BTC to this address

1Q2TWHE3GMdB6BZKafqwxXtWAWgFt5Jvm3

Now that address belongs to Hal. It had a transaction in 2017, years after his death, it sent 0.0343BTC somewhere, probably some exchange. Most likely its his family member who made the transaction. That amount is only $300 or so.

If he really was Satoshi, his family would have access to 1 million BTC and most likely from time to time be selling 50 BTC blocks worth half a million instead of only $300. If you had over $10 billion, would you go thru the hassle to claim $300?

This doesn't make sense. He is not Satoshi. This is only one reason of many.

I agree with those saying that it doesn't matter who was the creator of Bitcoin. It's a great invention, and I personally will always be grateful to that person, but since I'm no tax authority I don't care about his/her legal name. Also, what I'm pretty sure of is that that person can't care less about me knowing or not their real name either.

That could be the worst possibility. Bitcoin is very controversial, right? Although there are certain reasons behind the hiding of that identity, it must be the best choice of the genius of a person or group that makes this bitcoin. Everything is planned and calculated carefully. Then, how important is it actually for us to find out who Satoshi really is? I think it's just selfishness, I already feel happy enough to be able to use cryptocurrency to benefit.

These are good findings of Hal Finney and there are many claiming to be the creator of Bitcoin, the famous from them being  Craig Steven Wright. But does the identity really matter now? The person or group of people has given us how to be financial independent using blockchain technology which is decentralized and not in control of any.  That is really worth more of a discussion than finding who is Satoshi.

but the problem is Satoshi is not there to depend Himself or to do that what you are saying a Convincing effort.
this is the big problem because they are just throwing stone to the creator but nothing can do to depend.
but let them do their thing and let us wait when the Adoption happen because for sure they will regret what actions they are doing right now.

just because they ban cryptos does that mean they hate the creater or will jail the creator ? no that is not a right thing to do . for example other currency or payment method , other country does not also allow them but did they accuse the creator of those currency and payment methods ? no  they didnt .

why cant you just look on the bright side and think that satoshi can convince those country if what are the good benefits the bitcoin can bring  . he will recieve an award instead of getting him into jail .

If you were him... will you protect your family interest, he may likely does not want anyone to disturb his family codes. He's a wise man.

This reminds me of a story where a black politician man built a company in the name of a white man to free himself off corruption allegation. He planned with the white man and used the white name on the documents and handed over to him. guess what? the white man handed all documents to his son killed himself, when the black man came for him documents, the son won the case and claim the company.

Finney was a cypherpunk and said:

It seemed so obvious to me: "Here we are faced with the problems of loss of privacy, creeping computerization, massive databases, more centralization - and [David] Chaum offers a completely different direction to go in, one which puts power into the hands of individuals rather than governments and corporations. The computer can be used as a tool to liberate and protect people, rather than to control them."

He was an early Bitcoin user and received the first bitcoin transaction from Bitcoin's creator Satoshi Nakamoto. Finney lived in the same town for 10 years that Dorian Satoshi Nakamoto lived (Temple City, California), adding to speculation that he may have been Bitcoin's creator.[10] Finney denied that he was Satoshi Nakamoto.


He also lived a few blocks from a man named Dorian Nakamoto, according to Forbes journalist Andy Greenberg.[30] Greenberg asked the writing analysis consultancy Juola & Associates to compare a sample of Finney's writing to Satoshi Nakamoto's, and they found that it was the closest resemblance they had yet come across (including the candidates suggested by Newsweek, Fast Company, The New Yorker, Ted Nelson and Skye Grey).[30] Greenberg theorized that Finney may have been a ghostwriter on behalf of Nakamoto, or that he simply used his neighbor Dorian's identity as a "drop" or "patsy whose personal information is used to hide online exploits". However, after meeting Finney, seeing the emails between him and Nakamoto and his bitcoin wallet's history (including the very first bitcoin transaction from Nakamoto to him, which he forgot to pay back) and hearing his denial, Greenberg concluded that Finney was telling the truth. Juola & Associates also found that Nakamoto's emails to Finney more closely resemble Nakamoto's other writings than Finney's do.

In a May 2011 article, Szabo stated about the bitcoin creator: "Myself, Wei Dai, and Hal Finney were the only people I know of who liked the idea (or in Dai's case his related idea) enough to pursue it to any significant extent until Nakamoto (assuming Nakamoto is not really Finney or Dai).

During the last year of his life, the Finneys received anonymous calls demanding an extortion fee of 1,000 bitcoin. They became victims of swatting – a hoax "where the perpetrator calls up emergency dispatch using a spoofed telephone number and pretends to have committed a heinous crime in the hopes of provoking an armed police response to the victim's home".[11] Extortionists have demanded fees of more bitcoins than Finney had left after using the majority of them to cover medical expenses in 2013.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hal_Finney_(computer_scientist)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satoshi_Nakamoto#Dorian_Nakamoto

My conclusion
Hal Finney = Satoshi Nakamoto = Szabo + Wei Dai
Double spending was written by Hal Finney

I understand that all of us are really curious about the personality of satoshi nakamoto and who is this satoshi nakamoto behind all of this so called bitcoin and cryptocurrency. But the thing is if Satoshi Nakamoto rebeal himself/herself then probably it would be a big problem for him because as of now the government and many countries are banning cryptocurrency into their country and what if they know who Satoshi Nakamoto really is then probably there is a chance that they will put him/her to the jail, so as of now it would be really better if Satoshi Nakamoto will not reveal his true identity or personality and remain anonymous to his security purposes also.

It's true we all must be curious as to what the legendary figure of satoshi nakamoto has been able to create bitcoin.
But think about it carefully by all of us, if we know the identity of Satoshi Nakamoto will make conditions better.
And we can benefit. The answer is clearly no, so I think it's better for satoshi nakamoto to remain anonymous.
Because this is the best choice, we just focus on bitcoin. That is certainly bitcoin is more able to provide benefits.