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legendary
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February 04, 2020, 06:59:20 PM
I guess it's very useless to know the identity of Satoshi now, bitcoin has a better flow in the market without his presence. So even Satoshi Nakamoto is Hal Finneys so what, do they really needed in the community now?

Once the real satoshi reveals himself, politics will enter the cryptocurrency and the purpose of bitcoin will be defeated. That's the reason why the identity of the founder is still anonymous since 2009. It's been 10 years and still no single information about satoshi has been revealed.
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February 04, 2020, 06:21:42 PM
Hal Finney is Satoshi Nakamoto. Here are my findings and explanations on to as why.

Many people speculate that either an individual no one has ever heard of or Nick Szabo created Bitcoin. One of the main priorities of Satoshi Nakamoto was to remain as anonymous as possible and he was absolutely on point with his OPSEC. If Nick Szabo created Bitcoin, he would know he’d be the first person suspected of creating Bitcoin due to his Bitgold research. Satoshi would never put himself into this position. I do think Nick Szabo is the biggest influencer of Bitcoin and without his Bitgold research, Bitcoin may have never existed. However, he is not Satoshi Nakamoto and had absolutely nothing to do with Bitcoin at any point. Now that were past why Nick Szabo is not Satoshi, let’s get onto who is.

The man that is Satoshi Nakamoto is none other than Hal Finney. The man who was the first person to work on Bitcoin besides Satoshi and received the first ever Bitcoin transaction. While this will always be speculation, there is honestly no doubt in my mind, and it will probably leave not much doubt in your mind either.

Let’s start with the obvious.

Satoshi Nakamoto created the Bitcointalk Forum in December of 2009. Hal had been helping Satoshi with Bitcoin since January of 2009 (as emails indicate). Hal Finney registered on the Bitcointalk forum in November 2010. A full year after the creation of the forum. Why would Bitcoins biggest supporter, Hal Finney, wait one full year after the forum was created to register on it? Also, he registered two weeks before Satoshi Nakamotos final post on the forum. Coincidence? I doubt it. He knew he was retiring the Satoshi account and would no longer work on the project due to being diagnosed with ALS in October 2009. Yes, he was diagnosed with ALS two months before Satoshi disappeared.

Another interesting point some need to consider is that all timestamps on the forum point to Satoshi being a man in the western part of the United States in either California, Oregon, or Nevada. Hal Finney was in California. Which brings me to my next point. There was only one man in California named Satoshi Nakamoto. This man lived two streets over from Hal Finney. Let that sink in for a second. No, this man had absolutely nothing to do with the creation of Bitcoin. He’s not a computer programmer in any way. I don’t even believe Hal Finney and Dorian Satoshi Nakamoto even met. Hal Finney saw that Satoshi Nakamotos house was being foreclosed two streets away and thought it would be the ultimate symbol to the Bitcoin project and an example of banks mistreating people. A problem Bitcoin can solve. That, and he had a cool name.

Another point to be made here and another piece of compelling evidence is that Satoshi Nakamoto presumably mined blocks 1-77 of Bitcoin, Hal mined block 78, and Satoshi mined blocks 79-125. Hal claims to have mined Block 78 but not blocks 72-77. However, blocks 72-78 were more than likely (in my opinion, 95%) mined on the same extraNonce slope by the same person. If you do not know what an extraNonce slope is, please click the link below for reference:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/payment-no-1-a-closer-look-at-the-very-first-bitcoin-transfer-2346992

People will always point to the email conversations between Satoshi Nakamoto and Hal Finney in January 2009 and onwards. Those mean absolutely nothing. Hal Finney was a very intelligent man and thought literally every detail about his project through. He was more than likely scared of past digital currency founders and operators getting arrested without technically breaking the law. Please google Liberty Dollar and/or Liberty Currency. This and Hal thought Bitcoin would succeed more so without a face and creator. Although I think it more has to do with the legal aspect. So Hal knew he had to have a fictional character create Bitcoin to avoid any issues. Now why Email himself? Easy. 1) He knew he would be one of the first people suspected of creating Bitcoin and wanted an Alibi. 2) He probably eventually wanted to work on the project himself and retire Satoshi. Mostly, #1. And no, E-Mailing himself does not mean he had multiple personality disorder in any way. It just means he carefully planned his alibi from the start of the project.
 
Another point is Hal Finney received the first ever Bitcoin Transaction. This is not hard evidence by any means but if I’m working on a project like Bitcoin, I’m sending myself the first ever transaction to see if it works.

This one is purely speculation but I thought I’d add it in. Hal and Satoshi both had @gmx email addresses as one of the emails they used. Not a super common email service (at least to my knowledge).

Another piece, Hal Finney Article on Double Spending:

http://nakamotoinstitute.org/detecting-double-spending/

There you have my findings and thoughts on Hal Finney being Satoshi Nakamoto. This is obviously only speculation on my part but there is not much doubt in my own mind that Hal and Satoshi are the same person.

Hal Finney created Bitcoin.

I will be creating a video on this, basically saying what I have said in this post. I will post the link in the first post when I do make it.


There is a difference in Satoshi Nakamoto and Hal Finneys behavior on writing. Satoshi always use double space after each sentence (dot), Hal Finey use only one space.
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June 11, 2019, 09:52:32 AM
sorry to say and i dont love to hurt but totally crap bullshit post which waist time without any deep research and nothing as always people fall the scams coins....


so fucking simple


Napster (Napster was Fanning's nickname in high school, because of his hair) is a different way to distribute MP3 files. Instead of storing the songs on a central computer, the songs live on users' machines. This is called peer-to-peer sharing, or P2P
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June 11, 2019, 09:47:19 AM
Hal Finney is Satoshi Nakamoto. Here are my findings and explanations on to as why.

Many people speculate that either an individual no one has ever heard of or Nick Szabo created Bitcoin. One of the main priorities of Satoshi Nakamoto was to remain as anonymous as possible and he was absolutely on point with his OPSEC. If Nick Szabo created Bitcoin, he would know he’d be the first person suspected of creating Bitcoin due to his Bitgold research. Satoshi would never put himself into this position. I do think Nick Szabo is the biggest influencer of Bitcoin and without his Bitgold research, Bitcoin may have never existed. However, he is not Satoshi Nakamoto and had absolutely nothing to do with Bitcoin at any point. Now that were past why Nick Szabo is not Satoshi, let’s get onto who is.

The man that is Satoshi Nakamoto is none other than Hal Finney. The man who was the first person to work on Bitcoin besides Satoshi and received the first ever Bitcoin transaction. While this will always be speculation, there is honestly no doubt in my mind, and it will probably leave not much doubt in your mind either.

Let’s start with the obvious.

Satoshi Nakamoto created the Bitcointalk Forum in December of 2009. Hal had been helping Satoshi with Bitcoin since January of 2009 (as emails indicate). Hal Finney registered on the Bitcointalk forum in November 2010. A full year after the creation of the forum. Why would Bitcoins biggest supporter, Hal Finney, wait one full year after the forum was created to register on it? Also, he registered two weeks before Satoshi Nakamotos final post on the forum. Coincidence? I doubt it. He knew he was retiring the Satoshi account and would no longer work on the project due to being diagnosed with ALS in October 2009. Yes, he was diagnosed with ALS two months before Satoshi disappeared.

Another interesting point some need to consider is that all timestamps on the forum point to Satoshi being a man in the western part of the United States in either California, Oregon, or Nevada. Hal Finney was in California. Which brings me to my next point. There was only one man in California named Satoshi Nakamoto. This man lived two streets over from Hal Finney. Let that sink in for a second. No, this man had absolutely nothing to do with the creation of Bitcoin. He’s not a computer programmer in any way. I don’t even believe Hal Finney and Dorian Satoshi Nakamoto even met. Hal Finney saw that Satoshi Nakamotos house was being foreclosed two streets away and thought it would be the ultimate symbol to the Bitcoin project and an example of banks mistreating people. A problem Bitcoin can solve. That, and he had a cool name.

Another point to be made here and another piece of compelling evidence is that Satoshi Nakamoto presumably mined blocks 1-77 of Bitcoin, Hal mined block 78, and Satoshi mined blocks 79-125. Hal claims to have mined Block 78 but not blocks 72-77. However, blocks 72-78 were more than likely (in my opinion, 95%) mined on the same extraNonce slope by the same person. If you do not know what an extraNonce slope is, please click the link below for reference:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/payment-no-1-a-closer-look-at-the-very-first-bitcoin-transfer-2346992

People will always point to the email conversations between Satoshi Nakamoto and Hal Finney in January 2009 and onwards. Those mean absolutely nothing. Hal Finney was a very intelligent man and thought literally every detail about his project through. He was more than likely scared of past digital currency founders and operators getting arrested without technically breaking the law. Please google Liberty Dollar and/or Liberty Currency. This and Hal thought Bitcoin would succeed more so without a face and creator. Although I think it more has to do with the legal aspect. So Hal knew he had to have a fictional character create Bitcoin to avoid any issues. Now why Email himself? Easy. 1) He knew he would be one of the first people suspected of creating Bitcoin and wanted an Alibi. 2) He probably eventually wanted to work on the project himself and retire Satoshi. Mostly, #1. And no, E-Mailing himself does not mean he had multiple personality disorder in any way. It just means he carefully planned his alibi from the start of the project.
 
Another point is Hal Finney received the first ever Bitcoin Transaction. This is not hard evidence by any means but if I’m working on a project like Bitcoin, I’m sending myself the first ever transaction to see if it works.

This one is purely speculation but I thought I’d add it in. Hal and Satoshi both had @gmx email addresses as one of the emails they used. Not a super common email service (at least to my knowledge).

Another piece, Hal Finney Article on Double Spending:

http://nakamotoinstitute.org/detecting-double-spending/

There you have my findings and thoughts on Hal Finney being Satoshi Nakamoto. This is obviously only speculation on my part but there is not much doubt in my own mind that Hal and Satoshi are the same person.

Hal Finney created Bitcoin.

I will be creating a video on this, basically saying what I have said in this post. I will post the link in the first post when I do make it.



another shit crap post ... like the most ...

1. its not the first time people do all kind of projects under one name in the internet and not the last....for sure

2. its not one person ...and never will be...uneducated people love throw bullshit and they invest also in crap shit coins

3. bitcoin idea came from the idea of peer to peer sharing file like napster and muse and bittornet ...its came just with twist

4. before bitcoin came to the world people that associated with very smart underground people which expose and leak information about whats happen in this place and put their ass in huge risk....this people already was talked about peer to peer as gold tech which can revolutionise almost any vertical ...


5. so sad to see people here post ton of shit crap bullshit non sense and where its end they fall in huge scams....irony


someone say bitcoin is experiment of banks this guy totally super dumb and also probably invest huge of money in xrp and wait to hit 50 usd hhhh i almost sure from his dumbess

.

what strange before bitcoin come there was people was talking about that peer to peer file sharing can make financial freedom,,,Edward Snowden one of them....


so sad to see tons posts of crap shit without any deep research and checking and much more...its not hard
legendary
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June 11, 2019, 07:56:44 AM
Up to the present We have it now, none of us in bitcoin and crypto world doesn't know what's the real identity of Mr. Satoshi Nakamoto it is still unknown, and besides if I 'm going to ask, its not important to me who He is, but for what matters most is that the founder of Bitcoin helped a lot of people who involved themselves in bitcon industry.

His identity is not important, but his invention is. If he had any interest in revealing his identity, then he could have done that a long time back. But he has chose to remain anonymous, and we need to respect that decision. There is a chance that in future he may change this decision, but I am not really concerned about it. It will have very little impact on the acceptability and prices.
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June 11, 2019, 12:32:10 AM
We are all Satoshi.  But specifically? Look to the world's best and brightest. Thank you best and brightest. I'm a fan. Smiley
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June 10, 2019, 11:59:23 PM
Up to the present We have it now, none of us in bitcoin and crypto world doesn't know what's the real identity of Mr. Satoshi Nakamoto it is still unknown, and besides if I 'm going to ask, its not important to me who He is, but for what matters most is that the founder of Bitcoin helped a lot of people who involved themselves in bitcon industry.
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June 10, 2019, 11:33:04 PM
My dear friend you are wrong  Craig Steven Wright is believed to be the real creator of bitcoins .Craig is an Australian computer scientist and business personality. In a conference conducted with the press media he declared himself to be the real satoshi and later he was asked to prove that he is the real then he did not do so as he himself has made a fortune out of it and he even gave demonstration on how he did it to prove that it he has done and it was shown on several media  like the BBC channel also witnessed his demonstration and i also believe him to be the real creator.No matter who created btc it is the best investment of this current scenario.

He was never able to prove that he controls the original genesis bitcoin address (https://blockchain.info/address/1A1zP1eP5QGefi2DMPTfTL5SLmv7DivfNa) that was used to mine the genesis block as he was not able to sign a message from it. Stop spreading fud.

Unless someone comes here and signed those addresses and login in here and post all these people coming are imposter, we should stop relying on theory when we can verify this in an easy and right way, they cannot do an alibi that they lose passwords on this forum, or lost their private key, it's unacceptable.
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June 10, 2019, 10:54:51 PM
No matter who it is, he brings us bitcoin and blockchain technology. For humans, it is a very good technology. Thank you!! Grin
that's true, what I believe satoshi is not someone's name but the name of the group of scientists. this is a big question and they keep hiding. I hope that someday I will present a comment so that this polemic will end. at least we will get to know new heroes in the modern era. Grin

We going to simply keep guessing and speculating since it is something we probably will never get the answer to. Like the meaning of life or what happens when we die. We just won't know.
Even if someone "finds" Satoshi then how will they prove it? Satoshi is probably a project name. I don't know why people talk about Satoshi as if it was the person's name.
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June 10, 2019, 11:40:07 AM
No matter who it is, he brings us bitcoin and blockchain technology. For humans, it is a very good technology. Thank you!! Grin

That's right, no matter who Satoshi Nakamoto is we should thankful that he was able to come up with a currency and a technology that helped a lot of people like us. Being said that, I think it is only rightful to let Satoshi enjoy his private life away from controversies so being thankful is enough and as respect for him let's not dig down who he really is.
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June 10, 2019, 11:06:56 AM
Hello to everyone
It is good to see you all on here.  This is a new screen name so i dont expect too much from peoples replied to me at this moment but the factor is in here i just want simple answers and ideas if you can make its would be good.
I have read many articles over the years about the real identity of Satoshi Nakamoto founder of Bitcoin and Blockchain Technology and it is quite fun to see all the different theories and some have the very good explanations but not correct.  My questions is very simple and will invite much debate and participate.  What does every person thinks will happen to Satoshi Nakamoto inventor of Bitcoin and Blockchain Technology if they knows who he is? Do people think the NSA are interested in him and other agencies?  My second questions to you is what do you think will happen to Bitcoin?  Why does everyone speak that BTC will crash.  This is nonesense and i do not understand why people thinks this will be the outcome.  The factor is that thousand of new corporate investor suddenly put their money into Bitcoin, what do you think will happen to the price? Bitcoin will never go down and will eventually going to the moon but this is not my questions.  I want to know what everyone thinks will happen if Satoshi Nakamoto who invented the Bitcoin and blockchain technology suddenly is revealed in press conference or other kinds of meeting? If he wants to release his new system and if it is linked to the current system (which was just an experiment small branch of the main Master Ledger) it will be difficult to stay anonymous for the second time but my questions to you is what will happen to Satoshi Nakamoto Inventor of the bitcoin and blockchain technology and why do people want to find him so much? I mean what will they do if they do find him? Thank you to respond this questions is important for me at the moment for research.
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November 02, 2018, 07:51:37 AM
There is nobody who is most likely the inventor. There are countless of people who could be, but it’s all debunked so that we can’t say. Also, many believe it’s not just one person. This is how I see it anyway.
Satoshi Nakamoto is a symbol. Everyone with piece of Bitcoin is Satoshi in a sense. The original inventor would be irrelevant if we are talking about truly decentralized currency.
in my opinion Satoshi Nakamoto is the person who discovered bitcoin for the first time. he discovered bitcoin in 2009. if you read Digoogle articles maybe a lot.
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November 02, 2018, 06:26:41 AM
The fact is that nobody knows about Satoshi Nakamoto correctly , because if  you look at its history, you will know that Satoshi Nakamoto, may be a person, or it may be that he is a group of some people . But, of course, that he must have been a great person who thought of such a large platform and came to implement it.
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November 02, 2018, 04:33:25 AM
I wish and pray he stays anonymous as he is its good for the overall development of the ecosystem and people tends to get motivated with their version of satoshi vision which mobiles them to step up and deliver which is very imporatant for this nascent industry.
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November 02, 2018, 04:22:41 AM
Satoshi's identity remains very elusive and I don't think that this person has any plans of revealing himself/herself in the public. The decision is all up to him/her when he/she's going to introduce himself/herself. However, despite this puzzling controversies, I think what's important is that he/she invented Bitcoin that's very beneficial and profitable. It brings a quality of life and helps a lot of people from all walks of life. I think instead of keep on asking  who this person is we must be very thankful to him for the opportunities Bitcoin has offered by being a responsible bitcoiner and be a good exemplary to others.
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November 02, 2018, 03:50:11 AM
No one knows who is Satoshi Nakamoto. It can a he, she or even they. As what people knows, he might be a Japanese person.  Many have been named that they are Satoshi however a lot of them denied. Satoshi believe and stated that it is not about his identity that is important, it is about the Bitcoin that he created. Up till now, no one knows who is Satoshi Nakamoto.
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October 31, 2018, 09:22:37 AM
Today is the 10th anniversary of Bitcoin Whitepaper. 10 years ago Satoshi Nakamoto published Bitcoin whitepaper:

https://coincodex.com/article/2563/today-is-the-10th-anniversary-of-the-bitcoin-whitepaper/
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September 29, 2018, 07:51:38 AM
The identity of Mr.Namamoto Satoshi has long been a controversial issue since the founding of bitcoin innovation over 9 years ago. No one knows who he is and it does not matter but his name will always be remembered for introducing blockchain technology to us. Some say nakamoto satoshi is just a theory to start with bitcoin. But I think until now, the identity of satoshi nakamoto has been hidden for a purpose, perhaps because of his safety as one of the richest people in the world. Do not you think Satoshi Nakamoto is the biggest scam all of the times? Simply a group of people can nicknamed Nakamoto.
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September 26, 2018, 02:38:26 AM
I think this Satoshi Nakamoto will be very difficult to be able to find and it is uncertain that its existence is not just one person. I am sure Satoshi Nakamoto is an abbreviation of a group of names consisting of various kinds of people who are in it. who's behind the original inventor of bitcoin is still very mysterious.
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