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September 26, 2018, 01:32:50 AM
No matter who it is, he brings us bitcoin and blockchain technology. For humans, it is a very good technology. Thank you!! Grin
that's true, what I believe satoshi is not someone's name but the name of the group of scientists. this is a big question and they keep hiding. I hope that someday I will present a comment so that this polemic will end. at least we will get to know new heroes in the modern era. Grin

Right, we should stop searching for the real satoshi because its a forgone conclusion that the he/she/group of individuals doesn't want to be discovered. I'm sure that Satoshi is not hiding, perhaps his looking at this forum very often and just have a good chuckle on the innovation that he brought us.
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September 25, 2018, 05:31:09 PM
No matter who it is, he brings us bitcoin and blockchain technology. For humans, it is a very good technology. Thank you!! Grin
that's true, what I believe satoshi is not someone's name but the name of the group of scientists. this is a big question and they keep hiding. I hope that someday I will present a comment so that this polemic will end. at least we will get to know new heroes in the modern era. Grin
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September 25, 2018, 04:43:11 PM
Hal Finney is Satoshi Nakamoto. Here are my findings and explanations on to as why.

Many people speculate that either an individual no one has ever heard of or Nick Szabo created Bitcoin. One of the main priorities of Satoshi Nakamoto was to remain as anonymous as possible and he was absolutely on point with his OPSEC. If Nick Szabo created Bitcoin, he would know he’d be the first person suspected of creating Bitcoin due to his Bitgold research. Satoshi would never put himself into this position. I do think Nick Szabo is the biggest influencer of Bitcoin and without his Bitgold research, Bitcoin may have never existed. However, he is not Satoshi Nakamoto and had absolutely nothing to do with Bitcoin at any point. Now that were past why Nick Szabo is not Satoshi, let’s get onto who is.

The man that is Satoshi Nakamoto is none other than Hal Finney. The man who was the first person to work on Bitcoin besides Satoshi and received the first ever Bitcoin transaction. While this will always be speculation, there is honestly no doubt in my mind, and it will probably leave not much doubt in your mind either.

Let’s start with the obvious.

Satoshi Nakamoto created the Bitcointalk Forum in December of 2009. Hal had been helping Satoshi with Bitcoin since January of 2009 (as emails indicate). Hal Finney registered on the Bitcointalk forum in November 2010. A full year after the creation of the forum. Why would Bitcoins biggest supporter, Hal Finney, wait one full year after the forum was created to register on it? Also, he registered two weeks before Satoshi Nakamotos final post on the forum. Coincidence? I doubt it. He knew he was retiring the Satoshi account and would no longer work on the project due to being diagnosed with ALS in October 2009. Yes, he was diagnosed with ALS two months before Satoshi disappeared.

Another interesting point some need to consider is that all timestamps on the forum point to Satoshi being a man in the western part of the United States in either California, Oregon, or Nevada. Hal Finney was in California. Which brings me to my next point. There was only one man in California named Satoshi Nakamoto. This man lived two streets over from Hal Finney. Let that sink in for a second. No, this man had absolutely nothing to do with the creation of Bitcoin. He’s not a computer programmer in any way. I don’t even believe Hal Finney and Dorian Satoshi Nakamoto even met. Hal Finney saw that Satoshi Nakamotos house was being foreclosed two streets away and thought it would be the ultimate symbol to the Bitcoin project and an example of banks mistreating people. A problem Bitcoin can solve. That, and he had a cool name.

Another point to be made here and another piece of compelling evidence is that Satoshi Nakamoto presumably mined blocks 1-77 of Bitcoin, Hal mined block 78, and Satoshi mined blocks 79-125. Hal claims to have mined Block 78 but not blocks 72-77. However, blocks 72-78 were more than likely (in my opinion, 95%) mined on the same extraNonce slope by the same person. If you do not know what an extraNonce slope is, please click the link below for reference:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/payment-no-1-a-closer-look-at-the-very-first-bitcoin-transfer-2346992

People will always point to the email conversations between Satoshi Nakamoto and Hal Finney in January 2009 and onwards. Those mean absolutely nothing. Hal Finney was a very intelligent man and thought literally every detail about his project through. He was more than likely scared of past digital currency founders and operators getting arrested without technically breaking the law. Please google Liberty Dollar and/or Liberty Currency. This and Hal thought Bitcoin would succeed more so without a face and creator. Although I think it more has to do with the legal aspect. So Hal knew he had to have a fictional character create Bitcoin to avoid any issues. Now why Email himself? Easy. 1) He knew he would be one of the first people suspected of creating Bitcoin and wanted an Alibi. 2) He probably eventually wanted to work on the project himself and retire Satoshi. Mostly, #1. And no, E-Mailing himself does not mean he had multiple personality disorder in any way. It just means he carefully planned his alibi from the start of the project.
 
Another point is Hal Finney received the first ever Bitcoin Transaction. This is not hard evidence by any means but if I’m working on a project like Bitcoin, I’m sending myself the first ever transaction to see if it works.

This one is purely speculation but I thought I’d add it in. Hal and Satoshi both had @gmx email addresses as one of the emails they used. Not a super common email service (at least to my knowledge).

Another piece, Hal Finney Article on Double Spending:

http://nakamotoinstitute.org/detecting-double-spending/

There you have my findings and thoughts on Hal Finney being Satoshi Nakamoto. This is obviously only speculation on my part but there is not much doubt in my own mind that Hal and Satoshi are the same person.

Hal Finney created Bitcoin.

I will be creating a video on this, basically saying what I have said in this post. I will post the link in the first post when I do make it.


Interesting thoughts, but I think that doesn't make much sense. That will give us the knowledge of the name of the Creator? Of course, this is interesting from the point of view of studying personality. Such people as Steve Jobs are always interested in their history of formation, but the practical benefits for bitcoin owners, as well as the entire blockchain technology in General, are useless information. The network has a lot of investigations and guesses about who created bitcoin, but I think that the truth we will not know. Where is the proof?
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September 25, 2018, 04:40:15 PM
Hal Finney is Satoshi Nakamoto. Here are my findings and explanations on to as why.

Many people speculate that either an individual no one has ever heard of or Nick Szabo created Bitcoin. One of the main priorities of Satoshi Nakamoto was to remain as anonymous as possible and he was absolutely on point with his OPSEC. If Nick Szabo created Bitcoin, he would know he’d be the first person suspected of creating Bitcoin due to his Bitgold research. Satoshi would never put himself into this position. I do think Nick Szabo is the biggest influencer of Bitcoin and without his Bitgold research, Bitcoin may have never existed. However, he is not Satoshi Nakamoto and had absolutely nothing to do with Bitcoin at any point. Now that were past why Nick Szabo is not Satoshi, let’s get onto who is.

The man that is Satoshi Nakamoto is none other than Hal Finney. The man who was the first person to work on Bitcoin besides Satoshi and received the first ever Bitcoin transaction. While this will always be speculation, there is honestly no doubt in my mind, and it will probably leave not much doubt in your mind either.

Let’s start with the obvious.

Satoshi Nakamoto created the Bitcointalk Forum in December of 2009. Hal had been helping Satoshi with Bitcoin since January of 2009 (as emails indicate). Hal Finney registered on the Bitcointalk forum in November 2010. A full year after the creation of the forum. Why would Bitcoins biggest supporter, Hal Finney, wait one full year after the forum was created to register on it? Also, he registered two weeks before Satoshi Nakamotos final post on the forum. Coincidence? I doubt it. He knew he was retiring the Satoshi account and would no longer work on the project due to being diagnosed with ALS in October 2009. Yes, he was diagnosed with ALS two months before Satoshi disappeared.

Another interesting point some need to consider is that all timestamps on the forum point to Satoshi being a man in the western part of the United States in either California, Oregon, or Nevada. Hal Finney was in California. Which brings me to my next point. There was only one man in California named Satoshi Nakamoto. This man lived two streets over from Hal Finney. Let that sink in for a second. No, this man had absolutely nothing to do with the creation of Bitcoin. He’s not a computer programmer in any way. I don’t even believe Hal Finney and Dorian Satoshi Nakamoto even met. Hal Finney saw that Satoshi Nakamotos house was being foreclosed two streets away and thought it would be the ultimate symbol to the Bitcoin project and an example of banks mistreating people. A problem Bitcoin can solve. That, and he had a cool name.

Another point to be made here and another piece of compelling evidence is that Satoshi Nakamoto presumably mined blocks 1-77 of Bitcoin, Hal mined block 78, and Satoshi mined blocks 79-125. Hal claims to have mined Block 78 but not blocks 72-77. However, blocks 72-78 were more than likely (in my opinion, 95%) mined on the same extraNonce slope by the same person. If you do not know what an extraNonce slope is, please click the link below for reference:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/payment-no-1-a-closer-look-at-the-very-first-bitcoin-transfer-2346992

People will always point to the email conversations between Satoshi Nakamoto and Hal Finney in January 2009 and onwards. Those mean absolutely nothing. Hal Finney was a very intelligent man and thought literally every detail about his project through. He was more than likely scared of past digital currency founders and operators getting arrested without technically breaking the law. Please google Liberty Dollar and/or Liberty Currency. This and Hal thought Bitcoin would succeed more so without a face and creator. Although I think it more has to do with the legal aspect. So Hal knew he had to have a fictional character create Bitcoin to avoid any issues. Now why Email himself? Easy. 1) He knew he would be one of the first people suspected of creating Bitcoin and wanted an Alibi. 2) He probably eventually wanted to work on the project himself and retire Satoshi. Mostly, #1. And no, E-Mailing himself does not mean he had multiple personality disorder in any way. It just means he carefully planned his alibi from the start of the project.
 
Another point is Hal Finney received the first ever Bitcoin Transaction. This is not hard evidence by any means but if I’m working on a project like Bitcoin, I’m sending myself the first ever transaction to see if it works.

This one is purely speculation but I thought I’d add it in. Hal and Satoshi both had @gmx email addresses as one of the emails they used. Not a super common email service (at least to my knowledge).

Another piece, Hal Finney Article on Double Spending:

http://nakamotoinstitute.org/detecting-double-spending/

There you have my findings and thoughts on Hal Finney being Satoshi Nakamoto. This is obviously only speculation on my part but there is not much doubt in my own mind that Hal and Satoshi are the same person.

Hal Finney created Bitcoin.

I will be creating a video on this, basically saying what I have said in this post. I will post the link in the first post when I do make it.

Its still a speculation but I after I read this, I almost believed the sotry behind satishi nakamoto. I guess the only lack of this story when you say you're the neighborhood of this bith man who suspected created bitcoin technology.
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September 25, 2018, 04:15:12 PM
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September 25, 2018, 11:05:24 AM
He might be a whole bunch of people, or even a she - Truth is, as fun as the Scooby Doo like mystery that surrounds the 'founder' of Bitcoin is no one really knows who Satoshi Nakamoto is and it may not even be one person. Or a male. One thing is for sure; Satoshi Nakamoto does not want the world to find out who they are, for reasons known only to themselves. Still, it is intriguing to try and guess.
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September 25, 2018, 10:32:45 AM
First of all i would like to commend you for a very nice research regarding satoshi's real identity.
But nevertheless this will still remain as a perception of an individual, i also do have a guess who could satoshi really be but ill just keep it to myself who he/they really is/are.
But one of the basis i have is the amount he/they have.
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September 25, 2018, 10:27:44 AM
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There is nobody who is most likely the inventor. There are countless of people who could be, but it’s all debunked so that we can’t say. Also, many believe it’s not just one person. This is how I see it anyway.
Satoshi Nakamoto is a symbol. Everyone with piece of Bitcoin is Satoshi in a sense. The original inventor would be irrelevant if we are talking about truly decentralized currency.
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September 25, 2018, 09:57:48 AM
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If this is true and whoever he is I'm so grateful to him for creating Bitcoin I'm not the only one thanking him millions are for creating this technology, I just hope he will not dump all his shares, so the price will not go down maybe one day he'll create another technology breakthrough again because  a software developer always comes out with a new one.
I agree with you, even if today Satoshi is present in this forum, then he will be a source of solutions for every crypto market problem.

he will create a topic, and then his topic will be full of comments, and get a solution for every bitcoin market development, trading, investing, and even creating a high bitcoin market volume.
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September 25, 2018, 09:46:58 AM
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If this is true and whoever he is I'm so grateful to him for creating Bitcoin I'm not the only one thanking him millions are for creating this technology, I just hope he will not dump all his shares, so the price will not go down maybe one day he'll create another technology breakthrough again because  a software developer always comes out with a new one.
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September 25, 2018, 08:56:05 AM
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I think that no one will be able to find Satoshi. If honestly then I think that Satoshi has already died and no one will ever have access to his Bitcoins. I do not need to worry about this.
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September 25, 2018, 08:18:35 AM
#95
No body know who is Satoshi Nakamoto, but we all knows Satoshi Nakamoto the one person create bitcoin.
but exactly we all don't know whom is HE/SHE because the identity of Satoshi Nakamoto is very hidden.
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September 25, 2018, 06:45:28 AM
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Do not you think that Satoshi Nakamoto is the greatest scam of all the times? No, I do not mean bad things. Simply a group of people could take the nickname Nakamoto.
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September 11, 2018, 02:17:21 AM
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Some says satoshi nakamoto is just a theory to begin with the bitcoin. Some are also making a way that they claim to be satoshi nakamoto. But i think until now, the identity of satoshi nakamoto is hidden for a purpose, maybe for his security of being one of the riches around the world. But for me, whoever he is, we should thank him for making bitcoin possible, and still bitcoin continues until now.

I agree. This is something that most people tend to not focus on. Why in the heck should Satoshi Nakamoto disclose his identity when the prime logic around which this market is built around is anonymity itself?

Whoever he or she is, I don't really care and I like the fact that they are helping the world in such a big way without even disclosing their true identities. This is the quality of a hero in my opinion.

Satoshi Nakamoto is a true inspiration for all of us. Don't judge him/her people. Be thankful for he/she has done for this world.
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September 11, 2018, 01:00:08 AM
#92
Some says satoshi nakamoto is just a theory to begin with the bitcoin. Some are also making a way that they claim to be satoshi nakamoto. But i think until now, the identity of satoshi nakamoto is hidden for a purpose, maybe for his security of being one of the riches around the world. But for me, whoever he is, we should thank him for making bitcoin possible, and still bitcoin continues until now.
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September 11, 2018, 12:59:04 AM
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No one knows who he is and it doesn't matter but his name will be remembered always to introduce blockchain technology to us. He might be a private person and that's why he doesn't want to reveal himself and created Bitcoin Smiley
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September 11, 2018, 12:50:22 AM
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The identity of Mr.Nakamoto Satoshi has long been a controversial and debatable issue since the inception of the bitcoin innovation over 9years ago!. The identity of Mr. Nakamoto is a thing that daily is mysterious and this is one of the pointers that show that crypto can and is decentralised with having to reveal the personality of a contributor.
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September 11, 2018, 12:10:11 AM
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I do not care much about someone being Satoshi Nakamoto. I am interested in people who are developing Bitcoin! Satoshi Nakamoto if you do not want to reveal, it's privacy! I support that
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September 10, 2018, 11:31:26 PM
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No matter who is satoshi nakamoto the good thing is that he create cryptocurreny and people are very happy by this creation because most of the people can fullfil their dreams but still today the question is that who is satoshi whether he is a person or a name of group. Sometime a question is strike in my mind that why he or she will hide his/her identity.
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