Pages:
Author

Topic: The impact of war on global economy. - page 13. (Read 2948 times)

legendary
Activity: 1708
Merit: 1280
Top Crypto Casino
October 05, 2023, 07:22:56 AM
War is one of the biggest factors that make the economy suffer each country will spend its resources in case of emergency only people who have the power and capability can survive most of the country makes an investment and alliance with other countries to make sure they are safe, that's why there's a UN (I don't know other alliance form for the protection) to protect and have a peace talk to every country to prevent this happen or else there's a new world of suffering until the other country dominates the others. The only one who suffer here is the people who just want to live a simple life.
full member
Activity: 882
Merit: 211
October 05, 2023, 06:08:37 AM
1. Increase in the national GDP is least likely to be caused by a war.
2. Oil is considered the most crucial resource in modern warfare.
3. War affects the stock market by causing a decline in stock prices.

What do you guys think? Is this true or false?
GDP can't increase due to War. When War occurs, national GDP decreases and falls  speedy. When an area is destroyed due to War, most resources are used to save lives of hunted people.GAP cannot maintain its position. Oil is used in all types of weapons. So, oil affects a lot in every War. Stock market  shares value falls due to War. Everyone want to sell his stocks due to which it's prices go down. War impacts on all type of trades . From small to big business owners, it affects a lot. And prices decreases.
Yes, it is true that the influence of war in this world is quite large on the economy and trade and in fact the impact is felt by almost the whole world, not just countries where conflict occurs, it is caused by the influence of trade between countries and also global news so that people will tend to protect themselves. assets from all investments.
This is quite normal and this is the reality, even now we are slowly experiencing the increase in food prices almost all over the world.
sr. member
Activity: 616
Merit: 384
October 05, 2023, 05:55:41 AM
1. Increase in the national GDP is least likely to be caused by a war.
2. Oil is considered the most crucial resource in modern warfare.
3. War affects the stock market by causing a decline in stock prices.

What do you guys think? Is this true or false?
GDP can't increase due to War. When War occurs, national GDP decreases and falls  speedy. When an area is destroyed due to War, most resources are used to save lives of hunted people.GAP cannot maintain its position. Oil is used in all types of weapons. So, oil affects a lot in every War. Stock market  shares value falls due to War. Everyone want to sell his stocks due to which it's prices go down. War impacts on all type of trades . From small to big business owners, it affects a lot. And prices decreases.
copper member
Activity: 1316
Merit: 715
Eloncoin.org - Mars, here we come!
October 04, 2023, 11:17:45 AM

The "profit" is different from not being needed. I agree that war has no profit for humanity right now, it is not a profit to gain a land, maybe it is for the government because they could go around saying that they attacked and got the nation another piece of land, and back in the day that was the case but today even that is not valid.

Many Russians literally fled out of Russia not to be part of the army to go attack Ukraine because they do not really want that land, they do not care about that land, only Putin and his people do. And not like you can tell Putin to stop, hell Wagner leader literally tried that and he murdered a mercenary units leader. Imagine being so powerful that you kill someone who has his own personal army. That's why this isn't any profitable to anyone ever, it is the most useless war we have seen in a long time.

I completely share your views that wars are never good for humanity, while it could benefit some politicians and weapons manufacturers for a short period, but eventually everybody suffers. We can see this in the context of Russia/Ukraine war, where all of us sharing the burden by paying high cost of fuel, energy and food beside immense human and collateral losses.

It is essential for global leaders to seek a peaceful resolutions and actively work towards a world where conflicts are resolved through dialogues.
sr. member
Activity: 1106
Merit: 398
Duelbits
October 04, 2023, 11:13:00 AM
It clearly has an impact, because the war that occurs apart from being directly detrimental to the countries that are at war, even countries that are not taking part in the war will be affected, one of which is the global economy, of course this is very detrimental for countries that depend on other countries, because it will hinder the cycle. the economy of each country, the very real impact is the increase in prices of basic necessities and other basic materials, okay it could be that a country with a stable level of economic independence will not have that much of an impact but what is clear is that when a country is at war it is not only the economy that will be disrupted but also security and stability. The comfort of citizens will also be threatened because the country's status is currently in the midst of a global social and political war.
legendary
Activity: 3752
Merit: 1864
October 04, 2023, 11:04:41 AM
War is not good for any country, because a country is not only economically damaged due to war, all the people of that country are afraid of losing their lives and all the image of that country is ruined.  We have already noticed that the war between Russia and Ukraine has caused a lot of damage to the two countries and their neighboring countries, and many people have been injured and killed. The war has caused a lot of damage, from the energy of the country to the financial sector, the trade sector and the international level, especially in the economy and deep and has a lasting effect.

One of the key problems in assessing the real situation is the wrong definition of the situation. To clarify - this is not a war between Russia and Ukraine, it is an attack by Russia on an independent state, a violation of all the obligations previously signed and assumed by Russia, a violation of all humanitarian and universal human norms, it is simply open terror and destruction of everything on the territory of Ukraine. I.e. it is not some economic/political dispute/conflict, it is a new Nazism, the purpose of which is to destroy and seize new territories. If you assess what is happening from this real point of view, you will realize how global this problem is. And if the problem is not solved (new international terrorism / Nazism - RASHISM) today's problems will seem to the world "flowers" against the background of what it will expect when this brown plague spreads around the world.
hero member
Activity: 966
Merit: 588
October 04, 2023, 10:47:27 AM
2. Oil is considered the most crucial resource in modern warfare.
War could affect the supply or price of crude oil positively or negatively, take for instance the blown up of the Nord Stream pipeline is a major contributor to the skyrocketing gas prices and the present harsh economic situation facing the world right now,  while on the other hand, the major suppliers of oil will be milking money out of it, like Russia and Saudi Arabia.

3. War affects the stock market by causing a decline in stock prices.
For sure, due to Fear of uncertainties and doubts during a war,  investors would be forced to pull their funds out of the market, which in some cases results in a stock market price crash.
sr. member
Activity: 672
Merit: 416
stead.builders
October 04, 2023, 10:35:13 AM
War is not good for any country, because a country is not only economically damaged due to war, all the people of that country are afraid of losing their lives and all the image of that country is ruined.  We have already noticed that the war between Russia and Ukraine has caused a lot of damage to the two countries and their neighboring countries, and many people have been injured and killed. The war has caused a lot of damage, from the energy of the country to the financial sector, the trade sector and the international level, especially in the economy and deep and has a lasting effect.

Before war can occur, there must be some challenging factors that would have led to the incident of having war, though it may involves loss of lives but the major reason why the war was ignited must be well addressed, people are really suffering, the economy is getting bad and unaffordable for the average citizens, it's very difficult to see the interrelationships between those in political power and the citizens they govern, there are feedbacks on what the people are facing but less adequate and necessary steps to solve those challenges.
legendary
Activity: 1358
Merit: 1000
October 04, 2023, 10:19:20 AM

Quote from: DrBeer
Crimea does not have any strategic significance - the Black Sea is a closed water area, the entry into which is controlled by a NATO member country, and the entire route “to the world” is also blocked by NATO countries.
By NATO member you mean Turkey right? Turkey reminds me of a prostitute, who is doing only what is profitable for her. They are signing all kinds of agreements and deals with anyone including Russia. They are afraid of losing Russian tourists and Russian gas and oil as it will finish off their struggling economy.


I like your perspective, man. It's nice to call anyone who chooses what is more profitable for them a prostitute. So can I call you prostitute? Because as far as I can see, you are advertising sherbet.com instead of your OWN site, serveria.com. I can't blame you because you have chosen what is most profitable for you.

Just because you don't like someone's behavior does not give you the right to insult him or them!

That's a weird comment man. Just read some of DrBeer's posts - there are tons of insults in each and every post. Yet you pretend to not see it and pick one comparison which was not even meant as an insult in my post.  Roll Eyes

I haven't seen his posts yet but I'll check it soon. I'll give you an advise for Turks be careful on your words. Even if you don't want to be mean but be careful on your comparisions. Some words might be troublesome for you. Maybe it's not a insult for you but it might be others.

If you had expressed the above analogy in Turkey, you would probably have opened your eyes in a hospital.   
legendary
Activity: 2422
Merit: 1191
Privacy Servers. Since 2009.
October 04, 2023, 09:40:38 AM
#99

Let's start with that Russia suffering a military defeat from Ukraine is not very feasible simply because Russia has way more people than Ukraine. As simple as that. Russia's population is about 143 million, Ukraine (according to their own recent data) has about 23 million left. That's a huge difference. So far, Russia only had one wave of mobilization and according to their officials, they are even planning to vacate all mobilized troops because of the huge number of new contract troops recruited. So they have huge mobilization reserves, probably many millions of fighters. Simple math.

In the first days of invasion Putin said that Russia is going to protect it's territory using every possible weapons they have, including nukes. As Russia considers Crimea their territory, in case some country (any country) will try to invade it, nuclear strike will be carried out. I read your bs above, well, what can I say: "preventive non-nuclear strike" is nonsense. Any kind of strike will lead to a counter-strike by Russia, turning Washington, London, Berlin, Warsaw to dust within minutes. That's exactly why it's not possible to defeat a nuclear superpower - the entire world will lose as everything will be destroyed. There will be no winners. Do you want to find out if Putin is capable of this? Frankly, I don't.  Roll Eyes
On November 30, 1939, Russia, then still part of the Soviet Union, attacked Finland, trying to move the border from Leningrad and create a pro-Soviet puppet government in the country. Soviet military leaders planned to end the war in 20 days and march to Helsinki, giving Stalin a birthday present on December 21. The population of Finland at that time was 3.7 million people, and the USSR was more than 180 million.

On February 24, 2022, Russia launched a large-scale attack on Ukraine, ostensibly attempting to push back possible NATO borders while installing a pro-Russian government in Ukraine. Putin planned to end the war in 3-7 days and on May 9 to hold a parade of his troops on Khreshchatyk in Kyiv. But the war has been going on for more than a year and a half, and the successes of the Russians in this war are more than doubtful.

Many researchers and analysts now compare these two wars and find a lot in common, including the fact that these wars were the greatest disgrace for the USSR/Russia and their armies. As in the war against Finland, many Russians now do not know why they are dying in Ukraine, and low morale leaves a big imprint on the results of any wars, largely leveling out the population in the countries of the aggressor and the victim of the attack.

Russia declared its territory not only the Ukrainian Crimean peninsula, but also the Zaporozhye, Kherson, Lugansk and Donetsk regions of Ukraine. Moreover, even those territories that were never occupied in this war. Why doesn’t Putin use nuclear weapons, since the Ukrainian Armed Forces are now located in the officially annexed territories of Russia?
Now the Ukrainian Armed Forces are very actively attacking Russian military installations on the territory of Crimea with the help of missiles and drones, periodically conducting landings and openly declaring the imminent liberation of Crimea. Where is the retaliatory nuclear strike?

You forgot to mention that Ukraine was also a part of the Soviet Union and therefore technically you attacked Finland.  Grin

In Finland, Russia wasn't fighting against the whole white world like in Ukraine. They were not backed by CIA, military intelligence satellites, tanks, APCs, drones, HIMARS, artillery systems, Starlink, their troops were not trained by NATO. Finland's budget wasn't sponsored by US and EU. Still see no difference?  Grin
full member
Activity: 882
Merit: 100
October 04, 2023, 05:57:47 AM
#98
War is not good for any country, because a country is not only economically damaged due to war, all the people of that country are afraid of losing their lives and all the image of that country is ruined.  We have already noticed that the war between Russia and Ukraine has caused a lot of damage to the two countries and their neighboring countries, and many people have been injured and killed. The war has caused a lot of damage, from the energy of the country to the financial sector, the trade sector and the international level, especially in the economy and deep and has a lasting effect.
copper member
Activity: 1316
Merit: 715
Eloncoin.org - Mars, here we come!
October 04, 2023, 02:50:11 AM
#97
1. Increase in the national GDP is least likely to be caused by a war.
2. Oil is considered the most crucial resource in modern warfare.
3. War affects the stock market by causing a decline in stock prices.

What do you guys think? Is this true or false?

Indeed, the destruction of infrastructure and loss of human capital, and diversion of resources to support the war effort typically lead to economic decline rather than growth. Additionally, your observation regrading decline stock market is also valid as people prefer to buy food and medicines for their survival rather than investing in risky assets like stock market.

It is important to note that once the war concludes, economy often experiences a significant boost as reconstructions activities surge and international financial initiations such as world bank and many international development banks frequently provide funding for rebuilding of infrastructure, which contributes to economic recovery and growth.
sr. member
Activity: 2352
Merit: 245
October 04, 2023, 02:23:44 AM
#96

Let's start with that Russia suffering a military defeat from Ukraine is not very feasible simply because Russia has way more people than Ukraine. As simple as that. Russia's population is about 143 million, Ukraine (according to their own recent data) has about 23 million left. That's a huge difference. So far, Russia only had one wave of mobilization and according to their officials, they are even planning to vacate all mobilized troops because of the huge number of new contract troops recruited. So they have huge mobilization reserves, probably many millions of fighters. Simple math.

In the first days of invasion Putin said that Russia is going to protect it's territory using every possible weapons they have, including nukes. As Russia considers Crimea their territory, in case some country (any country) will try to invade it, nuclear strike will be carried out. I read your bs above, well, what can I say: "preventive non-nuclear strike" is nonsense. Any kind of strike will lead to a counter-strike by Russia, turning Washington, London, Berlin, Warsaw to dust within minutes. That's exactly why it's not possible to defeat a nuclear superpower - the entire world will lose as everything will be destroyed. There will be no winners. Do you want to find out if Putin is capable of this? Frankly, I don't.  Roll Eyes
On November 30, 1939, Russia, then still part of the Soviet Union, attacked Finland, trying to move the border from Leningrad and create a pro-Soviet puppet government in the country. Soviet military leaders planned to end the war in 20 days and march to Helsinki, giving Stalin a birthday present on December 21. The population of Finland at that time was 3.7 million people, and the USSR was more than 180 million.

On February 24, 2022, Russia launched a large-scale attack on Ukraine, ostensibly attempting to push back possible NATO borders while installing a pro-Russian government in Ukraine. Putin planned to end the war in 3-7 days and on May 9 to hold a parade of his troops on Khreshchatyk in Kyiv. But the war has been going on for more than a year and a half, and the successes of the Russians in this war are more than doubtful.

Many researchers and analysts now compare these two wars and find a lot in common, including the fact that these wars were the greatest disgrace for the USSR/Russia and their armies. As in the war against Finland, many Russians now do not know why they are dying in Ukraine, and low morale leaves a big imprint on the results of any wars, largely leveling out the population in the countries of the aggressor and the victim of the attack.

Russia declared its territory not only the Ukrainian Crimean peninsula, but also the Zaporozhye, Kherson, Lugansk and Donetsk regions of Ukraine. Moreover, even those territories that were never occupied in this war. Why doesn’t Putin use nuclear weapons, since the Ukrainian Armed Forces are now located in the officially annexed territories of Russia?
Now the Ukrainian Armed Forces are very actively attacking Russian military installations on the territory of Crimea with the help of missiles and drones, periodically conducting landings and openly declaring the imminent liberation of Crimea. Where is the retaliatory nuclear strike?
legendary
Activity: 2422
Merit: 1191
Privacy Servers. Since 2009.
October 03, 2023, 03:33:43 PM
#95

Quote from: DrBeer
Crimea does not have any strategic significance - the Black Sea is a closed water area, the entry into which is controlled by a NATO member country, and the entire route “to the world” is also blocked by NATO countries.
By NATO member you mean Turkey right? Turkey reminds me of a prostitute, who is doing only what is profitable for her. They are signing all kinds of agreements and deals with anyone including Russia. They are afraid of losing Russian tourists and Russian gas and oil as it will finish off their struggling economy.


I like your perspective, man. It's nice to call anyone who chooses what is more profitable for them a prostitute. So can I call you prostitute? Because as far as I can see, you are advertising sherbet.com instead of your OWN site, serveria.com. I can't blame you because you have chosen what is most profitable for you.

Just because you don't like someone's behavior does not give you the right to insult him or them!

That's a weird comment man. Just read some of DrBeer's posts - there are tons of insults in each and every post. Yet you pretend to not see it and pick one comparison which was not even meant as an insult in my post.  Roll Eyes
legendary
Activity: 1358
Merit: 1000
October 03, 2023, 12:01:35 PM
#94

Quote from: DrBeer
Crimea does not have any strategic significance - the Black Sea is a closed water area, the entry into which is controlled by a NATO member country, and the entire route “to the world” is also blocked by NATO countries.
By NATO member you mean Turkey right? Turkey reminds me of a prostitute, who is doing only what is profitable for her. They are signing all kinds of agreements and deals with anyone including Russia. They are afraid of losing Russian tourists and Russian gas and oil as it will finish off their struggling economy.


I like your perspective, man. It's nice to call anyone who chooses what is more profitable for them a prostitute. So can I call you prostitute? Because as far as I can see, you are advertising sherbet.com instead of your OWN site, serveria.com. I can't blame you because you have chosen what is most profitable for you.

Just because you don't like someone's behavior does not give you the right to insult him or them!
legendary
Activity: 2422
Merit: 1191
Privacy Servers. Since 2009.
October 03, 2023, 11:38:03 AM
#93

Remember, you can't defeat a Global nuclear superpower.

I wonder what is the basis for your assertion that it is impossible to defeat a nuclear power, which, as follows from the text, means Russia? Everything happens for the first time. Until the recent attack by the Ukrainian Armed Forces on the port of Russian-occupied Sevastopol, there had never been a case of a missile hitting a submarine. Ukraine has successfully opened such an account.

Do you mean that Russia, with a military defeat from Ukraine, will begin to bomb Ukraine with nuclear strikes or even the whole world? Firstly, Ukraine does not yet intend to seize Russian territory within its internationally recognized borders. That is, Ukraine is not going to attack Russia, but is only defending its independence and territorial integrity. Whatever the outcome, it should be clear to sensible Russians that in this war Russia is attacking, not defending, and therefore the need to use nuclear weapons on a neighboring country, receive nuclear contamination from their own bombs and die from it is completely absurd.

  Secondly, in order to use nuclear weapons, in Russia the president must transmit a code signal to unlock nuclear weapons and thereby authorize their use. This signal is transmitted through a portable nuclear briefcase control system. The Minister of Defense and the Chief of the General Staff have the same devices. The actual possibility of a nuclear strike is feasible if permission comes from all three devices. Then the signal goes to a special service of the General Staff, which, in turn, transmits the order to the specific command in whose location the nuclear forces are located. After this - from the command to the specific officer responsible for the actual launch. In addition, the president is always accompanied by a group of General Staff officers responsible for the “nuclear briefcase.” The chain is long enough, so it seems to be foolproof. On the other hand, if this fool nevertheless decides to use nuclear weapons, will all the military in this chain want to carry out this criminal order and expose themselves, their relatives, loved ones, and so on to the danger of destruction?

As for non-strategic (tactical) nuclear weapons, the chain is even longer. The troops do not have tactical warheads. It must be picked up from a centralized storage warehouse, transported, media prepared, loaded, and military training conducted. It's a long chain, and at every step there may be doubts about whether we really want it. In addition, all this is tracked. US and NATO intelligence will quickly discover this, and NATO has developed, in case of such a danger of using nuclear weapons, a preventive non-nuclear strike, as a result of which any such state will cease to exist within thirty minutes.
Let's start with that Russia suffering a military defeat from Ukraine is not very feasible simply because Russia has way more people than Ukraine. As simple as that. Russia's population is about 143 million, Ukraine (according to their own recent data) has about 23 million left. That's a huge difference. So far, Russia only had one wave of mobilization and according to their officials, they are even planning to vacate all mobilized troops because of the huge number of new contract troops recruited. So they have huge mobilization reserves, probably many millions of fighters. Simple math.

In the first days of invasion Putin said that Russia is going to protect it's territory using every possible weapons they have, including nukes. As Russia considers Crimea their territory, in case some country (any country) will try to invade it, nuclear strike will be carried out. I read your bs above, well, what can I say: "preventive non-nuclear strike" is nonsense. Any kind of strike will lead to a counter-strike by Russia, turning Washington, London, Berlin, Warsaw to dust within minutes. That's exactly why it's not possible to defeat a nuclear superpower - the entire world will lose as everything will be destroyed. There will be no winners. Do you want to find out if Putin is capable of this? Frankly, I don't.  Roll Eyes

Quote from: Argoo
  Now some states are simply afraid that as a result of long-term military failures in Ukraine, a wave of protests and centrifugal influences may rise in Russia itself, which in turn could lead to the disintegration of Russia into a number of separate independent state entities and nuclear weapons will fall into the hands of uncontrolled individuals. All other options for the use of nuclear weapons are still unrealistic, even if Russia loses to Ukraine in this war.

What kind of failures? like building a solid line of defense and destroying the attacking enemy? And don't start with that "Russia is going to disintegrate into many independent states" propaganda. It's simply hilarious.  Grin Grin
legendary
Activity: 3752
Merit: 1864
October 03, 2023, 10:25:32 AM
#92
....

I've always been amazed by your "one twist in the brain and life is beautiful" show.

I won't waste much time on you, it's more efficient to spend it just doing nothing Smiley One fact - a pathetic parody of the Nazi Fuhrer, has already signed an order to conscript 150,000 meat to pelt the advancing AFU forces. That's the open part. There is also a "closed part" - attempts to create "volunteer units", and negotiations with the criminals, previously murdered by Putin, Prigozhin, that it is time to recruit thieves, rapists, pedophiles, murderers from prisons to Wagner again. Guess who doesn't have enough live, disposable force ? Smiley

PS I'll let you keep making up stupid fuschte "facts" for the amusement of the forum audience  Grin Grin Grin
sr. member
Activity: 2352
Merit: 245
October 03, 2023, 08:06:04 AM
#91

Remember, you can't defeat a Global nuclear superpower.

I wonder what is the basis for your assertion that it is impossible to defeat a nuclear power, which, as follows from the text, means Russia? Everything happens for the first time. Until the recent attack by the Ukrainian Armed Forces on the port of Russian-occupied Sevastopol, there had never been a case of a missile hitting a submarine. Ukraine has successfully opened such an account.

Do you mean that Russia, with a military defeat from Ukraine, will begin to bomb Ukraine with nuclear strikes or even the whole world? Firstly, Ukraine does not yet intend to seize Russian territory within its internationally recognized borders. That is, Ukraine is not going to attack Russia, but is only defending its independence and territorial integrity. Whatever the outcome, it should be clear to sensible Russians that in this war Russia is attacking, not defending, and therefore the need to use nuclear weapons on a neighboring country, receive nuclear contamination from their own bombs and die from it is completely absurd.

  Secondly, in order to use nuclear weapons, in Russia the president must transmit a code signal to unlock nuclear weapons and thereby authorize their use. This signal is transmitted through a portable nuclear briefcase control system. The Minister of Defense and the Chief of the General Staff have the same devices. The actual possibility of a nuclear strike is feasible if permission comes from all three devices. Then the signal goes to a special service of the General Staff, which, in turn, transmits the order to the specific command in whose location the nuclear forces are located. After this - from the command to the specific officer responsible for the actual launch. In addition, the president is always accompanied by a group of General Staff officers responsible for the “nuclear briefcase.” The chain is long enough, so it seems to be foolproof. On the other hand, if this fool nevertheless decides to use nuclear weapons, will all the military in this chain want to carry out this criminal order and expose themselves, their relatives, loved ones, and so on to the danger of destruction?

As for non-strategic (tactical) nuclear weapons, the chain is even longer. The troops do not have tactical warheads. It must be picked up from a centralized storage warehouse, transported, media prepared, loaded, and military training conducted. It's a long chain, and at every step there may be doubts about whether we really want it. In addition, all this is tracked. US and NATO intelligence will quickly discover this, and NATO has developed, in case of such a danger of using nuclear weapons, a preventive non-nuclear strike, as a result of which any such state will cease to exist within thirty minutes.

  Now some states are simply afraid that as a result of long-term military failures in Ukraine, a wave of protests and centrifugal influences may rise in Russia itself, which in turn could lead to the disintegration of Russia into a number of separate independent state entities and nuclear weapons will fall into the hands of uncontrolled individuals. All other options for the use of nuclear weapons are still unrealistic, even if Russia loses to Ukraine in this war.
legendary
Activity: 2422
Merit: 1191
Privacy Servers. Since 2009.
October 03, 2023, 06:12:05 AM
#90
My question is why are you still here? Why are you not fighting against Russia in the east? Your country needs you, you have to enroll with the AFU and leave ASAP!  Grin

Nonetheless, it is still holding Ukrainian territories especially the Crimean peninsula which is a very strategic location in the Black Sea. The effects may not be reflected right away since there are human, structures, and financial losses but in the long term, it is mostly worth it. Just like when the Americans risked and declared war on the Mexicans.

Forget about Crimea. It is no longer Ukrainian and will never be one. Russia has annexed it and according to their laws it's their territory, which essentially means that Russia has a right to use nuclear weapons in case there is an assault on Crimea. It's all over, let go.

Quote from: DrBeer
But now Russia is “going to the bottom”, bombarding the Armed Forces of Ukraine with “meat assaults”, having already destroyed more than 50% of its “second army of the world”, its economy, demography, financial system, and having forever lost its partnership with an adequate world.

Last time I checked, it was Ukraine trying to attack heavily fortified Russian defences with Western tanks (Leopard, Challenger) and APCs but as they quickly ran out of armor they are now sending their troops to attack Russian strongholds and minefields. And you're talking about "meat assaults" bro?  Grin Grin Grin 

Quote from: DrBeer
Crimea does not have any strategic significance - the Black Sea is a closed water area, the entry into which is controlled by a NATO member country, and the entire route “to the world” is also blocked by NATO countries.
By NATO member you mean Turkey right? Turkey reminds me of a prostitute, who is doing only what is profitable for her. They are signing all kinds of agreements and deals with anyone including Russia. They are afraid of losing Russian tourists and Russian gas and oil as it will finish off their struggling economy.

Quote from: DrBeer
After Russia's defeat, it will not be saved; there will be no Marshall Plans for it.
Remember, you can't defeat a Global nuclear superpower. You are completely delusional and your claims are hilarious.

Quote from: DrBeer
It will become the world's "bottom" for decades and will pay reparations to all countries that previously suffered from it.
I'd love to see the US paying reparations "to all countries that previously suffered from it" that would be expensive  Grin
legendary
Activity: 3752
Merit: 1864
October 03, 2023, 06:05:41 AM
#89
Russia has no benefits. More precisely, if the whole world once again turned a blind eye to Russian terrorism, then yes, there would be benefits.

But now Russia is “going to the bottom”, bombarding the Armed Forces of Ukraine with “meat assaults”, having already destroyed more than 50% of its “second army of the world”, its economy, demography, financial system, and having forever lost its partnership with an adequate world.

Crimea does not have any strategic significance - the Black Sea is a closed water area, the entry into which is controlled by a NATO member country, and the entire route “to the world” is also blocked by NATO countries. The only purpose of Crimea is the mental masturbation of the Kremlin Fuhrer, and a convenient place for continuing terrorist attacks on Ukraine.

After Russia's defeat, it will not be saved; there will be no Marshall Plans for it. It will become the world's "bottom" for decades and will pay reparations to all countries that previously suffered from it.
The "profit" is different from not being needed. I agree that war has no profit for humanity right now, it is not a profit to gain a land, maybe it is for the government because they could go around saying that they attacked and got the nation another piece of land, and back in the day that was the case but today even that is not valid.

Many Russians literally fled out of Russia not to be part of the army to go attack Ukraine because they do not really want that land, they do not care about that land, only Putin and his people do. And not like you can tell Putin to stop, hell Wagner leader literally tried that and he murdered a mercenary units leader. Imagine being so powerful that you kill someone who has his own personal army. That's why this isn't any profitable to anyone ever, it is the most useless war we have seen in a long time.

The key problem is that these "many people who fled" are not against the war, they just don't want to die. But most people in russia support the kremlin's imperial ambitions, and support the murder of Ukrainians, and the kremlin's goal is to DESTROY Ukraine as an independent state that rebelled in 2014, against a totalitarian and criminal ruler and government similar to the kremlin regime
Pages:
Jump to: