Topic: The Kracken! - page 7. (Read 31081 times)

Actually, it's that you are doing a much better job of ignoring it.



Not late at all. When you like corruption the way you seem to like it, it's only COURTeous that you should really be given the opportunity to change. But it seems like you aren't willing to change. You are pointing yourself towards treason.

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All that you are saying is that some far left people use Wikipedia to propagandize anybody they can.

BREAKING.... the lizard people are taking over, and hydroxychloroquine cures covid.
I read it from a reliable source on the interwebz plus its confirmed by Tzupy and BADecker, so it must be true.


Well I guess Spendy and Techy went bye bye.
 I wonder why.....

The cases were already litigated.  Judge after judge threw them in the trash where they belong.

What you heard was Trump both begging and trying to intimidate the SOS into making Trump the winner of Georgia.  Pathetic on so many levels, but not the least bit surprising.

The extremists in the Biden administration (such as Harris and those associated with Harris) want Trump in prison because they want to stomp out dissent, and want to prevent him from influencing voters. Unlike Clinton, Trump has a large base that is specific to him. Also, in the beginning of the Trump administration, Clinton largely was discrediting the Trump Presidency via proxies, while Trump will likely personally discredit the Biden administration.

He's doing a really great job hiding that evidence.


You're a bit late to the party. Most people stood up and voted a couple of months ago. Yelling on the intertubes isn't gonna do shit against corruption.

Anybody who thinks about it a little, knows that the reason why Trump won in 2016 is, his people simply outdid Hillary's people in a touch of secret election fraud.

Now in 2020, since they gotta get Trump out of there, the Dems have pulled out all the stops on the election fraud thing. Everybody is starting to see how corrupt the Dems really are.

But this is what Trump and his people were really after in the first place. Trump wanted to take down the election fraud completely. But he couldn't do it until the Dems made it as obvious as they have, so that EVERYBODY in the world would know.

Now, Trump has all the evidence that he needs to show the people what is really going on. Then it will be up to the people. What I mean is, when the people see the corruption that involves essentially all of the members of Congress, and if the people don't recall the whole Congress because they like the corruption that way, why in the world would an honest guy like Trump even want to be President for a second term, over a group like that - USA citizens - who want the corruption?

As Trump brings the truth out into the open, and as the s**t hits the fan, if the people like it like that, they'll get what they deserve.

I'm ready to stand up and fight to get rid of the corruption. Are you?

It was a litigation settlement, these are supposed to be privileged. I watched the SOS on Fox, avoiding to answer the question about the leak, he knows he's in trouble in many ways.

Adding 1 ballot for Trump is essentially the same as taking away 1 for Biden.  What he meant was "make it so that I won", to the SOS that explicitly said he did not win.

Either way, imagine the headlines you'd be posting if a similar recording of a Democrat were released.  Would you be saying 'it shouldn't have been released', or 'that incriminating statement was phrased poorly?'.  lol.  Seriously, close your eyes and imagine what your reaction would be.   

That was taken out of context. I agree that Trump has poorly phrased that, but what he meant was not "find me 11,780 votes for Trump", but to discount at least 11,780 (of many more) fraudulent votes for Biden.

Its show time
https://rumble.com/vbsiej-scott-mckay-the-tipping-point-us-military-ops-trump-the-plan.html

I notice you didn't mention the part where Trump asked him to 'find 11,780 votes'.  

You're defending what Trump said on the phone call because you agree with Trump politically, not because you actually think what was said was an acceptable thing for a President to say to a SOS in this situation.  In other words, you're arguing in bad faith.

BREAKING: A Printer in Michigan Printed Tens of Thousands of Excess Pennsylvania Ballots Which Were Shipped to New York and Fraudulently Filled Out Before Being Delivered to Pennsylvania
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/01/breaking-printer-michigan-printed-tens-thousands-excess-pennsylvania-ballots-shipped-new-york-fraudulently-filled-delivered-pennsylvania/

The problem with being too harsh is that it will affect the whole nation adversely. The basic problem is the Federal Reserve Bank. If we get too harsh with pointing out the corruption, it might take the banking system down. Such a thing would disrupt the whole world, but especially the people in the USA in their everyday lives.

Trump doesn't want to hurt the people. He trying to clean up the corruption in a way that is going to benefit everybody. Such cleaning up is necessary, because moving us under a Biden/China regime directs everyone into Communism. Doing what Trump is trying to do - freedom for America with little pain to citizens - is proving to be a difficult and delicate operation.

I listened to the whole call, not just the selected minutes. The call is a settlement talk, which should have not been leaked.
Trump is nice to the crooked SOS, tells him to do the right thing, and discount at least some of fraudulent votes. The SOS keeps lying that all was OK.
IMO Trump is being too agreeable, in his place I would have been much tougher on the SOS.

Him only caring about himself makes sense.  Not much else does.

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Just imagine your reaction to a recording dropped of Hillary (or Obama) having a similar conversation with a Gov/SOS after the 2016 election but before Hillary conceded.

Really ... close your eyes and imagine what you would've thought or said if that would have happened. (this would be a good line to focus on to try and change the topic into 'why did TS tell me to close my eyes')

See how different it would be?  Your head would explode.

If you were arguing in good faith, you'd have a similar response regardless of the political views of the person in question.  But you aren't.

The difference is that Trump is fighting hard. Hillary didn't put much of a fight.

Who recorded that phone call anyway? That alone is another crime imo.

Why would Trump go to prison? I think democrats will forget about him the moment he is out of office as he drifts into irrelevancy. I like to think of it like the time Trump promised a special prosecutor for Hillary Clinton. The moment he won, he dropped the act really quick.

I think democrats will do the same. They'll say mean things on twitter about Trump, promising to throw him in jail to rile up their rabid follower base, and then when there is no political points to gain for attacking Trump because he's out of office, they'll move on with their lives.

At this point, Trump does not have the political capital to get the 2020 Presidential election thrown out via Congress.

I don't see why Trump is trying to get the election results overturned via Congress. This will only hurt Republicans in 2022, and in the GA special election in two days. Losing the special election risks legislation that will stack the cards against Republicans forever, preventing them from ever winning the Presidency again, will make it more difficult to win close House/Senate seats in the future, and will give Democrats a 4 seat advantage in the Senate. It will also likely result in a stacked Supreme Court, which could ignore any Pardon Trump gives himself/his family, and could result in Trump having to go to prison for political reasons.

Overall, Trump is being stupid.

Ofc Trump is reaching at straws here. I just don't understand why this is a big deal.

Trump believes batshit insane conspiracy theories about dominion, voter fraud, whatever -- he asks the Georgia SoS to look at the allegations and find the votes he feels he's "owed" to make up the votes he's down. Is it stupid? Sure. Does it sound like Trump? Yep. Is democracy falling apart? No. Is this some sort of criminal offense? Nope. At best you get to call Trump a dumb fuck here or a sore loser. I somewhat agree with both.



I've already come to peace with losing both GA seats so that isn't a big deal to me.

I don't think it's a good look. But Trump has openly called for votes being thrown so this is quite literally on par. Yes, quite the low bar.

Trump appears to be torpedoing any chance he will get reelected in 2024 and harming the chances Republicans will retains control of the Senate. Assuming of course the recording is real. In theory, it is possible a GAN was used to make it seam as if each of the respective voices were talking.

If Trump was not leaving office in two weeks, he would probably get impeached/removed from office over this. He will probably pardon everyone involved, but you really cannot defend this kind of behavior.