The madness of gambling addicts. - page 63.

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Quote from: Sakanwa on September 27, 2023, 12:40:30 PM

Very few people normally have the mind to leave after they have suffered loss,the only thing that rings in the mind of a loser is to try again,but it's always very unfortunate that the winning won't still come,which is always really frustrating.
Gambling addiction is one thing that has destroyed so many lifes,but addicts find it very difficult to stop it because the spirit that backs gambling is stronger than one can even imagine or think of.It just what one needs to do with caution to avoid being in a serious mess of not being able to do without it,which has had so many person lose their lifes as a result of depression.

However, they have to do that if they have experienced loss, especially if they have lost too much. That is self-control so as not to experience more defeats. With self-control, a person will not get frustrated because he knows he cannot always win from gambling and will not chase those wins. But when someone loses self-control, he will not pay attention to everything and will instead continue gambling because he wants to chase an even bigger win. He also won't care if he becomes addicted to gambling, so he will want to gamble even though he has won. But if he experiences loss, he will be angry and will not stop before he can recover his losses. Otherwise, he will become frustrated because that is the result experienced by someone who has lost at gambling.

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that is the extent to which some addicts can go to satisfy their desires. its possible that its not the first he will go that extreme to find money to gamble. lets now say he succeeded with the kidnapping, am pretty sure he will repeat it with another person and thats how he will become a kidnapper and also from there he will become more creative with bad things. thats why its always good to put limit to things.

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Quote from: Pamadar on September 26, 2023, 10:24:15 PM

Unfortunately, they are not and or they don't care about it, they are on the side where they are thinking that they are still
in control of what they are doing.

Sad true that when someone got addicted, they are not the only one who's getting the problem, but also
those who are close with them, especially the family that cares about them or the family who are relying
with them. All are also affected and if the person would not accept it, the problem will be keep worse.

Yes, of course this is very difficult to do if he has become an addict and is ignorant of good advice from the people around him.
You are right, new problems will just happen if he doesn't control his gambling, including in his own family. Because the family will also feel great disappointment at losing money that should not have happened, and the addict immediately realizes and starts thinking about how to overcome it, the best thing is that he should stop and apologize to his family so as not to repeat it a second time.

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Quote from: noormcs5 on September 25, 2023, 12:58:52 PM

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yes.. indeed, addiction to gambling can be influenced by our own views on gambling, because when we talk about gambling as "fun" then we will be normal when gambling, but things are different when we think that when gambling is for a profit, where in the end we will lose control and continue to chase victory.

Most of the gamblers say that they are playing gambling for fun but in reality, their focus is to make money. When your aim is to get money from gambling, that's where the problem starts. You start to think differently. On every loss, we (the gambler who is addict) become more aggressive and put more money to recover the loses.

Greed is what makes them so aggressive when gambling. A gambling addict is never grateful for the winnings he gets, he always wants more than the winnings he previously got. So that what happens is only a loss that he gets in gambling. But once addicted to gambling, it will be very difficult to get out of this zone. I consider that gambling addiction is like we are trapped in quicksand, which when we are more acting and behaving carelessly in gambling, what happens is that we will only sink deeper.

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Quote from: Sakanwa on September 27, 2023, 12:40:30 PM

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Quote from: zuzie on September 26, 2023, 02:20:39 AM

I agree with your opinion, that a gambler will not become an addict if he is aware of all the risks when playing, if he plays too much, puts money in the hope of winning, of course that is impossible, on the contrary he will lose. all the money will be lost. And that will cause problems in his family and the problem in him is that he will regret having done that without thinking about other people.

In the case of gambling addicts they are harmful not only to the family but also to the society. At the beginning greed works in them to get more and when the rush reaches the point of desperation when everything is lost, taking a break from gambling will seem like the last thing you want, but it is necessary. Leaving gamblers after losing their large amount of money will give you the space and time to evaluate why it happened and how to prevent it from happening again. But a responsible gambler does not get greedy after earning a profit, they know the right rules of gambling so they are less likely to suffer.

Very few people normally have the mind to leave after they have suffered loss,the only thing that rings in the mind of a loser is to try again,but it's always very unfortunate that the winning won't still come,which is always really frustrating.
Gambling addiction is one thing that has destroyed so many lifes,but addicts find it very difficult to stop it because the spirit that backs gambling is stronger than one can even imagine or think of.It just what one needs to do with caution to avoid being in a serious mess of not being able to do without it,which has had so many person lose their lifes as a result of depression.

I do not know if we should take the spirit to gamble as positive or negative. If something is done to an extent that we cannot think and keep on injecting money to recover the loss, then it is the fault of the gambler. How on earth a sensible person keep investing and playing from where is he getting constant loss?

This is where the addiction part comes in. If you are addicted to anything like gambling, you will never want to stop. It is also not only about the loss, even the addicted gambler will keep gambling even if he is winning a good amount. The motive in this case is to gather more money and become rich through gambling.

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Quote from: Negotiation on September 27, 2023, 07:43:07 AM

Quote from: zuzie on September 26, 2023, 02:20:39 AM

I agree with your opinion, that a gambler will not become an addict if he is aware of all the risks when playing, if he plays too much, puts money in the hope of winning, of course that is impossible, on the contrary he will lose. all the money will be lost. And that will cause problems in his family and the problem in him is that he will regret having done that without thinking about other people.

In the case of gambling addicts they are harmful not only to the family but also to the society. At the beginning greed works in them to get more and when the rush reaches the point of desperation when everything is lost, taking a break from gambling will seem like the last thing you want, but it is necessary. Leaving gamblers after losing their large amount of money will give you the space and time to evaluate why it happened and how to prevent it from happening again. But a responsible gambler does not get greedy after earning a profit, they know the right rules of gambling so they are less likely to suffer.

Very few people normally have the mind to leave after they have suffered loss,the only thing that rings in the mind of a loser is to try again,but it's always very unfortunate that the winning won't still come,which is always really frustrating.
Gambling addiction is one thing that has destroyed so many lifes,but addicts find it very difficult to stop it because the spirit that backs gambling is stronger than one can even imagine or think of.It just what one needs to do with caution to avoid being in a serious mess of not being able to do without it,which has had so many person lose their lifes as a result of depression.

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Quote from: Negotiation on September 27, 2023, 07:43:07 AM

Quote from: zuzie on September 26, 2023, 02:20:39 AM

I agree with your opinion, that a gambler will not become an addict if he is aware of all the risks when playing, if he plays too much, puts money in the hope of winning, of course that is impossible, on the contrary he will lose. all the money will be lost. And that will cause problems in his family and the problem in him is that he will regret having done that without thinking about other people.

In the case of gambling addicts they are harmful not only to the family but also to the society. At the beginning greed works in them to get more and when the rush reaches the point of desperation when everything is lost, taking a break from gambling will seem like the last thing you want, but it is necessary. Leaving gamblers after losing their large amount of money will give you the space and time to evaluate why it happened and how to prevent it from happening again. But a responsible gambler does not get greedy after earning a profit, they know the right rules of gambling so they are less likely to suffer.

Gambling addiction can really ruin a life and relationship. It can destroy you in every way possible and it can cause negative effect to the people close to you such as your family and to your friends. Addiction can bring trouble to you in terms of financial and even be a burden to your close ones because they might be the collateral damage for your irresponsibility. Greediness can bury you to pile of debts and loans. It will just bring you so much liabilities that might be too heavy to handle which could cost you a lot more later on. Self-reflection is much needed so that you won't be dependent to gambling.

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Quote from: zuzie on September 26, 2023, 02:20:39 AM

I agree with your opinion, that a gambler will not become an addict if he is aware of all the risks when playing, if he plays too much, puts money in the hope of winning, of course that is impossible, on the contrary he will lose. all the money will be lost. And that will cause problems in his family and the problem in him is that he will regret having done that without thinking about other people.

In the case of gambling addicts they are harmful not only to the family but also to the society. At the beginning greed works in them to get more and when the rush reaches the point of desperation when everything is lost, taking a break from gambling will seem like the last thing you want, but it is necessary. Leaving gamblers after losing their large amount of money will give you the space and time to evaluate why it happened and how to prevent it from happening again. But a responsible gambler does not get greedy after earning a profit, they know the right rules of gambling so they are less likely to suffer.

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Always losing control is why they cannot prevent themselves from continuing to gamble and one of the consequences of this behavior is not only becoming addicted or losing money but also if the gambler is too crazy about gambling he will lose his family because a family does not want to have family members who has a very serious gambling addiction and I once found an addict like this in my city when he was gambling online I asked him where he came from and he answered which surprised me that he came from far from my city and he chose to leave because his family had kicked him out because he often stole money to gamble.
Maybe this is one of the craziness of gambling addicts and I think several people have also told stories like this.

The gambling is like the drug to the addict,they can live without their wife and family.But they never live the life without their gambling involvement,this way the gambler was became the gambling addict from the gambler position.The gambler may act like the animal in their family after losing some money in the gambling.If they person doesn’t have a capacity to balance the money loss, they can use the other game to entertain themself. Some gambler will lose their family after the rude action in the family by the gambling loss.

They have the will, but they divert that will on the wrong things, if this same person takes life investment very seriously instead of gambling, his family will be proud of him, most times it's better to even lose everything while doing something right, rather than losing everything to something that's a narrow escape to turn your life around with.

Gambling will easily ruin anyone if care isn't taken, someone I knew turned his family into enemies because they warned him about gambling, he so much believed that gambling would solve all his problems, he ran away from home and said cruel things on the phone to his parent, I remember he told his mother that she hated him, he said his father don't want him to make it in life.

This broke my heart so much, for parents that are ready to push their children higher, they are so responsible and they believe in education, his kid ends up wasting his time after he ran out of home and he later learned his lesson, but it was too late, the mother died and family members reunited him with his father.

This is why I believe that a young person who is addicted to gambling is far more deluded with gambling than an adult who is a gambling addict, it's very hard to make them see reasons that they choose the wrong path with gambling.

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Quote from: Pamadar on September 26, 2023, 10:24:15 PM

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Unfortunately, they are not and or they don't care about it, they are on the side where they are thinking that they are still
in control of what they are doing.

Sad true that when someone got addicted, they are not the only one who's getting the problem, but also
those who are close with them, especially the family that cares about them or the family who are relying
with them. All are also affected and if the person would not accept it, the problem will be keep worse.

Yes, that is the unfortunate truth, gamblers are going to affect the people around them.

This means that you should try not to be dependent on someone that is a gambling addict, because at the end of the day that person is going to lose all their money, and you as a dependent will also be dragged onto it.

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Quote from: zuzie on September 26, 2023, 08:23:49 PM

That's right, friend, gamblers who have responsible behavior will make it a good habit too, the same as what is done when gambling, responsible gamblers will not lose control, and realize that gambling is just entertainment, don't invest too much money in it. lots of money here, and can control yourself when you want to gamble. Apart from that, responsible gamblers are those who don't take money for their family's needs, because it won't create new problems in their family, and I'm sure they gamble using the remaining money they need for their daily needs, and they only gamble with small amounts of money.

That's what we will get if we can be responsible gamblers so that we won't lose control when gambling and can still have money to gamble another day. Gambling is just entertainment and should not be taken too seriously because we cannot always make money from gambling. We can only try to control ourselves while gambling and always maintain the limits we have set. That way, we can still enjoy our gambling time and won't have new problems because we can control ourselves. We can also allocate a certain amount of money for gambling to avoid interfering with other money needs.

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Quote from: zuzie on September 26, 2023, 02:20:39 AM

Quote from: noormcs5 on September 25, 2023, 12:58:52 PM

There are gamblers who gamble with common sense they are not addicted to the gambling and therefore they are not trouble some for the families and friends.

It is only those gamblers who are addicted , become annoying for their families, use excessive money and even their mood and their way of life becomes extremely disturbed cause of the gambling addiction.

I agree with your opinion, that a gambler will not become an addict if he is aware of all the risks when playing, if he plays too much, puts money in the hope of winning, of course that is impossible, on the contrary he will lose. all the money will be lost. And that will cause problems in his family and the problem in him is that he will regret having done that without thinking about other people.

If all heavy gamblers were aware of the excessive activities they were doing, there would be no such thing as a gambling addict. there will be no future for a gambling addict if they continue to follow their greedy desires and have no intention of changing it, in my country online gambling addiction is a real concern for the government, there are many parties who are at a loss, apart from that the average gambling addict will be involved in bad loans, their families will continue to be victims.

Unfortunately, they are not and or they don't care about it, they are on the side where they are thinking that they are still
in control of what they are doing.

Sad true that when someone got addicted, they are not the only one who's getting the problem, but also
those who are close with them, especially the family that cares about them or the family who are relying
with them. All are also affected and if the person would not accept it, the problem will be keep worse.

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Quote from: noormcs5 on September 25, 2023, 12:58:52 PM

There are gamblers who gamble with common sense they are not addicted to the gambling and therefore they are not trouble some for the families and friends.

It is only those gamblers who are addicted , become annoying for their families, use excessive money and even their mood and their way of life becomes extremely disturbed cause of the gambling addiction.

I agree with your opinion, that a gambler will not become an addict if he is aware of all the risks when playing, if he plays too much, puts money in the hope of winning, of course that is impossible, on the contrary he will lose. all the money will be lost. And that will cause problems in his family and the problem in him is that he will regret having done that without thinking about other people.

That's what being a responsible gambler is all about. At least he can realize how long he has been gambling so he can immediately decide to stop gambling and not look back on whatever has happened. He could go back to gambling another day, forget about his previous losses, and have no intention of recovering his losses. And it won't cause problems for him so he won't have any problems with his family because he can still be responsible with his gambling. It's different if he gambles too often, where he also loses a lot. There will be emotions that will rise and become high, and it will affect his psychology and emotions so that it will disrupt his and his family's life.

That's right, friend, gamblers who have responsible behavior will make it a good habit too, the same as what is done when gambling, responsible gamblers will not lose control, and realize that gambling is just entertainment, don't invest too much money in it. lots of money here, and can control yourself when you want to gamble. Apart from that, responsible gamblers are those who don't take money for their family's needs, because it won't create new problems in their family, and I'm sure they gamble using the remaining money they need for their daily needs, and they only gamble with small amounts of money.

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Quote from: zuzie on September 26, 2023, 02:20:39 AM

Quote from: noormcs5 on September 25, 2023, 12:58:52 PM

There are gamblers who gamble with common sense they are not addicted to the gambling and therefore they are not trouble some for the families and friends.

It is only those gamblers who are addicted , become annoying for their families, use excessive money and even their mood and their way of life becomes extremely disturbed cause of the gambling addiction.

I agree with your opinion, that a gambler will not become an addict if he is aware of all the risks when playing, if he plays too much, puts money in the hope of winning, of course that is impossible, on the contrary he will lose. all the money will be lost. And that will cause problems in his family and the problem in him is that he will regret having done that without thinking about other people.

If all heavy gamblers were aware of the excessive activities they were doing, there would be no such thing as a gambling addict. there will be no future for a gambling addict if they continue to follow their greedy desires and have no intention of changing it, in my country online gambling addiction is a real concern for the government, there are many parties who are at a loss, apart from that the average gambling addict will be involved in bad loans, their families will continue to be victims.

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good points
many will say that we create our reality, I like the idea too that when your mind open up for a new idea it never gets back to the original size again (was it Einstein?)

now, how sure are you that attention creates thoughts? maybe there's a stream of thoughts that could happen regardless of your attention but you can uses your attention to keep them or leave them...
what do you think?

I don't know if there is a clear answer to this in the literature, but at least to me, it seems like it's a bit of both.

On one hand we just get random thoughts all the time, but on the other hand, things that you have paid attention to in the past tend to appear in your thoughts as well.

I'm sure advertisers would know the answer to this, because they pay a lot of money to be in the minds of the people.

not sure if there's consensus regarding this topics but it's a really interesting one, I'd say it's the most interesting topic I've ever talked about here on the gambling boards of bitcointalk.

I think it's a two way road too with our attention influencing our thoughts but random things happening as well and we "deciding" to stick with them or let them go.
attention is powerful, for sure.

It sounds like philosophy applied to gambling and the way we human beings behave under certain circumstances.
Honestly, I have not researched about gambling in a context of human development, because it is easier to find information on the superficial part of it, the commercial portion, the strategies and News which are in the mainstream.

If you asked me, I would say gambling is an activity which is full of relativeness, from the amount of money one can lose, to the way other perceive our status (according to the money wagered).

Though, if we talk about addiction, it would be better to stay within the psychological literature, where the most useful approaches are supposed to be.

yes, this is a really interesting subject
would love to read more on gambling history too (when did it start, what were the first games, where it was more common)
I could be wrong but seems like we've been gambling pretty much forever, since there was money there were people wanting to make easy money by luck.

interesting way to learn more about greed and human nature too

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Quote from: zuzie on September 26, 2023, 02:20:39 AM

Quote from: noormcs5 on September 25, 2023, 12:58:52 PM

There are gamblers who gamble with common sense they are not addicted to the gambling and therefore they are not trouble some for the families and friends.

It is only those gamblers who are addicted , become annoying for their families, use excessive money and even their mood and their way of life becomes extremely disturbed cause of the gambling addiction.

I agree with your opinion, that a gambler will not become an addict if he is aware of all the risks when playing, if he plays too much, puts money in the hope of winning, of course that is impossible, on the contrary he will lose. all the money will be lost. And that will cause problems in his family and the problem in him is that he will regret having done that without thinking about other people.

That's what being a responsible gambler is all about. At least he can realize how long he has been gambling so he can immediately decide to stop gambling and not look back on whatever has happened. He could go back to gambling another day, forget about his previous losses, and have no intention of recovering his losses. And it won't cause problems for him so he won't have any problems with his family because he can still be responsible with his gambling. It's different if he gambles too often, where he also loses a lot. There will be emotions that will rise and become high, and it will affect his psychology and emotions so that it will disrupt his and his family's life.

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Quote from: noormcs5 on September 25, 2023, 12:58:52 PM

There are gamblers who gamble with common sense they are not addicted to the gambling and therefore they are not trouble some for the families and friends.

It is only those gamblers who are addicted , become annoying for their families, use excessive money and even their mood and their way of life becomes extremely disturbed cause of the gambling addiction.

I agree with your opinion, that a gambler will not become an addict if he is aware of all the risks when playing, if he plays too much, puts money in the hope of winning, of course that is impossible, on the contrary he will lose. all the money will be lost. And that will cause problems in his family and the problem in him is that he will regret having done that without thinking about other people.

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Quote from: Lucasgabd on September 25, 2023, 10:41:47 AM

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not sure if there's consensus regarding this topics but it's a really interesting one, I'd say it's the most interesting topic I've ever talked about here on the gambling boards of bitcointalk.

I think it's a two way road too with our attention influencing our thoughts but random things happening as well and we "deciding" to stick with them or let them go.
attention is powerful, for sure.

Attention has been studied a lot, for example we know that we don't have too much "energy" to make decisions every day, there is a decision fatigue, so it is important to control your environment.

Of course advertisers know this and tries to control your environment as well. Supermarket product placement for example is key.

It is really an interesting topic, and this just barely scratches the surface. At the end of the day, you will become what you pay attention to.

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That kind of determination is due to being addicted. It's no longer in the right mind when deciding to that kind of decisions, for sure, it will worsen the situation if the person will continue to please his addiction.

There's always a bad side effect for being an addicted gambler, aside from losing lots of money. There's also
chances that being out of control of the situation, they will do things that they will going to regret after
to the point that they will end up doing illegal and be in jail or being beggars and continue living outside.

Always losing control is why they cannot prevent themselves from continuing to gamble and one of the consequences of this behavior is not only becoming addicted or losing money but also if the gambler is too crazy about gambling he will lose his family because a family does not want to have family members who has a very serious gambling addiction and I once found an addict like this in my city when he was gambling online I asked him where he came from and he answered which surprised me that he came from far from my city and he chose to leave because his family had kicked him out because he often stole money to gamble.
Maybe this is one of the craziness of gambling addicts and I think several people have also told stories like this.

Only those who have ideas can understand how destructive a person can be when addicted to gambling. I am also aware of the many gamblers who resort to theft and extortion to manage their gambling money. But not all gamblers do this. This happens to some addicted gamblers who do not have family support. There are families who, if they can identify a family member as an addicted gambler, scorn those gamblers. They think that the gambler is a kind of virus for the family. As a result, they never want to simply accept those gamblers as family members.

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Quote from: STT on September 25, 2023, 12:31:46 PM

Like any addiction its possible for the stream of consciousness during a day, what motivates you to continue doing your job the difficult things in life; all that can be disrupted. I would argue none of this occurs by gambling cause alone, underlying causes that push a person into a negative bias is what I would mostly blame. Depression or grief from loss of a loved one is perfectly normal behaviour and thats all it takes to de-stabilize someone enough to develop some kind of addiction imo. The worst addictions are physical like drinking but also uncontrolled gambling would be a large negative imo its important to keep a fixed budget weeks ahead of time for this reason, avoiding upset. Ideally people are helped as much as possible and consoled by a professional where possible.

We can easily become an addiction if we are not very careful and plan how we are going about our gambling activities. Gambling can be easily addictive if we make sure that we follow our gambling plans so that we don't end up becoming a chronic addict. I was once almost becoming an addicted gambling but I was able to realize as quick as possible and controlled it without any assistance from anybody because I was very aware that I was the one that is going to suffer the consequences if I don't try as much to help myself to get rid of it as early as possible.

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