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Quote from: Ziskinberg on February 07, 2022, 01:41:03 AM

All the time, predictions are meant to fail and make another again and again.
I'm no expert in analyzing the market nor I was good in trading but I know that I was confident of what I'm doing even without the help of other people. That is why we have to make our own analysis as no one had been expert to this nor someone knows what gonna happen someday. if we can do this simply thing, we are almost about to win the market and never confused of anything.

Predictions are for fun, and the best or worst thing is you can only be right or wrong, up or down. And it is all for fun,,, if anyone takes predictions seriously then they probably need to go back to the books and realize that people in markets are never ever guaranteed profit in fact,,, long term you are guaranteed to lose (simply to fight the commissions and immediate loss on every trade made).

The only profit guarantee long term is to hodl, this is my take.

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Quote from: LastKiss on February 05, 2022, 08:48:05 AM

If you confuse about the market just leave it alone and dont forget to buy the dip, You can leave it till it reaches a new ATH. If you are tired to analyze the market then just get a break from trading except it's your only way to earn money. I agree that we must hodl although many people tell you to sell and dont forget to use your money that you can afford to lose.

That is what I do time to time. At the end of the day, trading is not my only income. Sometimes, I just feel like there is nothing that I want to do in trading and anything like that so I give a break and just do not look it like I normally do. Sure I still follow the price like once or twice but I do nothing like that.

This is why it gives me a break to actually feel better when I give it a break time to time. It just makes me realize that I could give a break which means I am not addicted, at all. On top of that it means there is the fact that I could miss doing it, and when I get back to trading I would be basically doing it better and with more hype.

This is the wisest statement clearly based on experience.
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The market is confusing definitely! And I think for some it's more confusing and for some less, to be honest here, not everyone has good analytic skills! Even if you have it it's not everything in that, you need to be active and have good timing for your trades if you wish to be successful!
In the short term, my skills are like 0, simply I don't have much time for watching charts and news every day, what I catch from reading is simply not enough to be successful in analyzing short term changes... from time to time I have some fun with some short trades, but they are usually mistakes, luckily I see it as a fun and I do it with some small amounts! I am more focused on the long run, buying some top coins, low cap but potential coins, and holding them until they mature and bring profit!

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Quote from: kentrolla on February 06, 2022, 03:46:06 PM

We shouldn't be going with analysis provided by others let it even be an expert or influencer because they cannot predict it before dump and once the market dumped they started predicting bear market except few, vice verse for bullrun as well.

All the time, predictions are meant to fail and make another again and again.
I'm no expert in analyzing the market nor I was good in trading but I know that I was confident of what I'm doing even without the help of other people. That is why we have to make our own analysis as no one had been expert to this nor someone knows what gonna happen someday. if we can do this simply thing, we are almost about to win the market and never confused of anything.

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Quote from: pressing207 on February 06, 2022, 10:29:10 AM

Maybe invest once. Forget for a long time. And then wake up in paradise ? After all, this is also a trade. Find a new tool. Which is not even traded today. And earn millions of percent to spite all enemies.

Aiming for millions will make you work hard for it. But the thing is, you'll get there someday if you're consistent today.

I think it's better to be consistent with your trades or investments and then you'll meet that soon through your consistency. Because when people think about millions to earn, they're becoming crazy.

They will invest almost everything they can and that's more than being confused. Even they're aware that a platform or investment is likely a scam but because of their goal and desire without having a reliable plan, they'll get in there.

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We shouldn't be going with analysis provided by others let it even be an expert or influencer because they cannot predict it before dump and once the market dumped they started predicting bear market except few, vice verse for bullrun as well.

We may compare their analysis with ours to understand if we are on same page or why do we differ, i have seen youtubers stating Bitcoin will cross $70k with some golden triangle analysis and next week it dumps hard so noone can predict they can just share their point of view.

As i have said in the past this time it's too confusing and we are left with only one options and they go with the market flow and avoid investing any new funds.

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Quote from: Yamifoud on February 05, 2022, 06:35:32 PM

Quote from: seleme on February 05, 2022, 04:44:40 PM

That is why it is called speculation, no concrete results should be expected in short time frames. The accuracy of prediction depends on few factors, obviously the more data the trader has the higher chance of reliability can be researched but even if trader has all available information the market nature stays random. Bear and bull cycles can be predicted only on daily or weekly time frames, below this level is gambling, IMO.

And we don't need to be perfect anyway. Since we embrace the market like this, then we have to accept that prices went like this were up and down remain unpredictable. And in fact, it wasn't confusing as we know this since before, nothing had changed that might bother us, it was the same scenario that we saw 10 years ago, it is only the price that change and we're glad to see it is growing.

This is how the crypto market works. That for sure wasn't hard to understand.

We can predict an insane bull market or even can speculate about $100 BTC price scenarios but the reality is always different from each perspective. The future vision of crypto investors is mostly about bull markets and $ sign on their eyes dreaming about $1bln worth BTC price. Surely, I am not an expert in this field but no one else is since new markets have pro traders but it is too young that can "build" expert traders. Drawing a few trendlines on charts and reading fundamental analysis-related news doesn't make anyone pro trader, it is something psychological.

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Quote from: LastKiss on February 05, 2022, 08:48:05 AM

If you confuse about the market just leave it alone and dont forget to buy the dip, You can leave it till it reaches a new ATH. If you are tired to analyze the market then just get a break from trading except it's your only way to earn money. I agree that we must hodl although many people tell you to sell and dont forget to use your money that you can afford to lose.

That is what I do time to time. At the end of the day, trading is not my only income. Sometimes, I just feel like there is nothing that I want to do in trading and anything like that so I give a break and just do not look it like I normally do. Sure I still follow the price like once or twice but I do nothing like that.

This is why it gives me a break to actually feel better when I give it a break time to time. It just makes me realize that I could give a break which means I am not addicted, at all. On top of that it means there is the fact that I could miss doing it, and when I get back to trading I would be basically doing it better and with more hype.

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As you said, the market is so confusing. The more people try to analyse the logic towards the crypto market, the more confused they get. The crypto market is unpredictable, nobody can ascertain the direction is heading to, whether bearish or bull market.
Analysing the crypto market is like putting yourself in a dilemma position.
Am long gone listening to those predicting the future price of bitcoin or bothering myself about the present price of the altcoin I hodl in my portfolio

Yes, the crypto market look confusing to those who are lazy to carry out their personal research to get the right prediction in the community. Now that the price of bitcoin has dropped to $40k, show that investors are about to achieve something good from their long bearish market.

The market is very clear now for bitcoin investors to know what will happen any moment from now because bitcoin price is about to demonstrate massively in crypto market for those waiting for bulling market, to start experiencing the benefits in crypto market. Just try to be more focus on professional traders predict, because some of them experienced so many crypto market challenges and still get the right prediction at the end.

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Quote from: Yamifoud on February 05, 2022, 06:35:32 PM

Quote from: seleme on February 05, 2022, 04:44:40 PM

That is why it is called speculation, no concrete results should be expected in short time frames. The accuracy of prediction depends on few factors, obviously the more data the trader has the higher chance of reliability can be researched but even if trader has all available information the market nature stays random. Bear and bull cycles can be predicted only on daily or weekly time frames, below this level is gambling, IMO.

And we don't need to be perfect anyway. Since we embrace the market like this, then we have to accept that prices went like this were up and down remain unpredictable. And in fact, it wasn't confusing as we know this since before, nothing had changed that might bother us, it was the same scenario that we saw 10 years ago, it is only the price that change and we're glad to see it is growing.

This is how the crypto market works. That for sure wasn't hard to understand.

Crypto has always been unpredictable from the start. And no matter how good we are as a crypto analysts, we will never hit the bull's eye. Everything we say will always fall as speculations. But these speculations greatly affect us because we tend to always believe in it, when in fact they are just for short term, as no one holds what the future will be. The market may look confusing on the people who are too optimistic or pessimistic about it, but if we chose to be neutral, this will help us understand the market more.

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We are not going in continuous market bearish trend here, its the way this market works mate. I don't know, but let us understand that this market is getting driven by the center of investment which is uncertain. The market is free, anyone can withdraw enormous amount, move huge pot of bitcoins somewhere, get involved into different manipulation strategies etc. The market is not simple because we make it look like difficult.

Its volatile because of its decentralised nature, partial control etc. The market sometimes is more prone to "Fundamental analysis" rather than technical trendy line etc.

You might wanna study the cyclic changes of bitcoin and you will understand long deserting bearish trends are very normal in the crypto currency space.

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Quote from: seleme on February 05, 2022, 04:44:40 PM

That is why it is called speculation, no concrete results should be expected in short time frames. The accuracy of prediction depends on few factors, obviously the more data the trader has the higher chance of reliability can be researched but even if trader has all available information the market nature stays random. Bear and bull cycles can be predicted only on daily or weekly time frames, below this level is gambling, IMO.

And we don't need to be perfect anyway. Since we embrace the market like this, then we have to accept that prices went like this were up and down remain unpredictable. And in fact, it wasn't confusing as we know this since before, nothing had changed that might bother us, it was the same scenario that we saw 10 years ago, it is only the price that change and we're glad to see it is growing.

This is how the crypto market works. That for sure wasn't hard to understand.

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Quote from: Fivestar4everMVP on February 05, 2022, 04:49:54 PM

I agree with the op that we shouldn't be too optimistic or pessimistic about the market, because this is the only way I believe we can ultimately deal the the confusion, personally, this is what I do.
For someone who bought recently and not ready to sell soon, that is, he or she is already determined to hold for maybe let's say 3 to 4 or 5 years from now, current condition(s) of the market shouldn't be a concern at all, but then our brain loves playing tricks with us by making us want to see our investment(s) appreciating even when we are not ready to liquidate or cash in on it yet.

This is I think, normal reaction if you are invested on something. Not only in crypto market, but even in stock market, real-estate or gold. You tend to check the current market prices, even if you're not selling your assets. For me, that's fine because you also need to keep up with the latest happenings of what you are holding. So if there's some worst case scenario that is about to happen, you are not too late to make your action.

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I agree with the op that we shouldn't be too optimistic or pessimistic about the market, because this is the only way I believe we can ultimately deal the the confusion, personally, this is what I do.
For someone who bought recently and not ready to sell soon, that is, he or she is already determined to hold for maybe let's say 3 to 4 or 5 years from now, current condition(s) of the market shouldn't be a concern at all, but then our brain loves playing tricks with us by making us want to see our investment(s) appreciating even when we are not ready to liquidate or cash in on it yet.

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That is why it is called speculation, no concrete results should be expected in short time frames. The accuracy of prediction depends on few factors, obviously the more data the trader has the higher chance of reliability can be researched but even if trader has all available information the market nature stays random. Bear and bull cycles can be predicted only on daily or weekly time frames, below this level is gambling, IMO.

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Quote from: LastKiss on February 05, 2022, 08:48:05 AM

If you confuse about the market just leave it alone and dont forget to buy the dip, You can leave it till it reaches a new ATH. If you are tired to analyze the market then just get a break from trading except it's your only way to earn money.

What for buying if you want to leave or retire? Are sure we're already in the dip? I suggest not buying any coins if you want to retire or leave crypto. Forcing to buy before retiring may make you regret it someday. Moreover, if the prices of those coins are much cheaper later, you must be very disappointed. Just wait till the end of this year or wait till the next year if you want to buy at the dip and prepare your assets before another bullrun in 2024-2025.

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Quote from: cryptosly on February 04, 2022, 06:14:02 AM

Going back and forth is very tiring, unless you're scalping, I think the best is to not trade, like the saying that says "Not trading is also a trading" I hope the market bounces back as soon as possible.

Wouldn’t really be advisable to tell a trader that they shouldn’t trade because if the market is bearish, knowing very well that day trading is their source of income and it is something that they are doing on a daily to make income for themselves. Even if the market is bearish there is still very much the opportunity for anyone who is a trader, with whatever strategy that they are using, either scalping or other strategies, to be making good income from the market.

Day traders are taking advantage of the little up and down in price, they can go in for 5 to 15 minutes, and sometimes it can even be just for a minute and they are out with profit as long as they know what they are doing. The only person that would have to take a break now is a long term trader who usually HODL.

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Quote from: Marykeller on February 05, 2022, 05:19:42 AM

As you said, the market is so confusing. The more people try to analyse the logic towards the crypto market, the more confused they get. The crypto market is unpredictable, nobody can ascertain the direction is heading to, whether bearish or bull market.
Analysing the crypto market is like putting yourself in a dilemma position.
Am long gone listening to those predicting the future price of bitcoin or bothering myself about the present price of the altcoin I hodl in my portfolio

The margin of error for most technical analysis was minimum until the institutional take over of bitcoin while we notice some new market manipulators. This is a token of 40% of the whole cryptocurrency space and development in the space is expected to alter the previous as envisage. However, onchain analysis has been superb and trusted according to willywoo

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Some people would tell you that it is usually good for you to be hopeful of the best and at the same time be prepared for the worse. None of us has the ability to see the future, so mostly what we are doing here is speculation, or we just try to see what would likely happen in the future, but we are not so sure about it. So, maybe it is best for you to be neutral on the destination the price would be heading to this period.

But to he true to ourselves, everyone knows that we are in the time for bearish trends, so the market would usually go down, but there will also he times when the market would also go up a bit, just like it did as of recent, it might go from $30k to $40k, but there wouldn’t be any serious bullish trend as we know it.

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