The Michael Brown shooting , what really happened?? - page 4.

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Quote from: Xiaoxiao on September 12, 2014, 04:18:36 AM

There is also some evidence that shows that Michael Brown (and perhaps his family) are affiliated with bloods, which can be a quite violent gang/organization

May I see this evidence?

Red is a common theme here. I'm not saying Michael Brown was a bad kid. I just blame the culture and society.

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Quote from: Xiaoxiao on September 12, 2014, 04:18:36 AM

There is also some evidence that shows that Michael Brown (and perhaps his family) are affiliated with bloods, which can be a quite violent gang/organization

May I see this evidence?

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Quote from: awesome31312 on September 10, 2014, 08:14:46 AM

Michael Brown was unarmed, so was Kelly Thomas, and so was Rodney King, Amadou Diallo, Manuel Loggins Jr., Ronald Madison, Sean Bell, Eric Garner, I could go on forever, but I believe I have confirmed that police are trigger happy, and all of the men listed with the exception of Kelly Thomas were people of color.

Michael Brown was unarmed... so what? The fact that he wasn't carrying a firearm didn't stopped him from robbing a shop and beating one of the owners there to pulp. Even officer Wilson, who was carrying a firearm with him, suffered very serious facial injuries as a result of the assault by Michael Brown. Just because he wasn't carrying a firearm, that doesn't mean that he posed no danger to the civilized society.

That was a hoax circulated by conservative sources, the picture was not of Officer Wilson

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Quote from: awesome31312 on September 10, 2014, 08:58:05 AM

Cops tend to patrol black neighborhoods more. Also, black people are often shot for minor offences, like jaywalking. Additionally, black people are more likely to be arrested for marijuana possession, when compared to equal cannabis use from white people**

**Sources:
https://www.aclu.org/billions-dollars-wasted-racially-biased-arrests
http://news.yahoo.com/pot-arrests-more-likely-blacks-180649118.html

they patrol black areas more frequently because they are more likely to find criminals there. mike brown stopped for jaywalking but had just robbed a store and was arrest warrant out on his companion for theft. the issue is blacks' propensity for criminality not white racism. chances are blacks who get done for for soft drugs are gang members with past convictions.

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There is also some evidence that shows that Michael Brown (and perhaps his family) are affiliated with bloods, which can be a quite violent gang/organization

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Quote from: awesome31312 on September 10, 2014, 08:14:46 AM

Michael Brown was unarmed, so was Kelly Thomas, and so was Rodney King, Amadou Diallo, Manuel Loggins Jr., Ronald Madison, Sean Bell, Eric Garner, I could go on forever, but I believe I have confirmed that police are trigger happy, and all of the men listed with the exception of Kelly Thomas were people of color.

Michael Brown was unarmed... so what? The fact that he wasn't carrying a firearm didn't stopped him from robbing a shop and beating one of the owners there to pulp. Even officer Wilson, who was carrying a firearm with him, suffered very serious facial injuries as a result of the assault by Michael Brown. Just because he wasn't carrying a firearm, that doesn't mean that he posed no danger to the civilized society.

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Quote from: awesome31312 on September 10, 2014, 08:14:46 AM

Michael Brown was unarmed, so was Kelly Thomas, and so was Rodney King, Amadou Diallo, Manuel Loggins Jr., Ronald Madison, Sean Bell, Eric Garner, I could go on forever, but I believe I have confirmed that police are trigger happy, and all of the men listed with the exception of Kelly Thomas were people of color.

what kind of reasoning is this? if i posted names of cops/white ppl shot by black criminals would it prove mike brown's guilt? of course police shootings are going to disproportionately target blacks as blacks commit a disproportionate number of violent crimes

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Quote from: awesome31312 on September 10, 2014, 09:33:28 AM

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Quote from: awesome31312 on September 10, 2014, 08:58:05 AM

Cops tend to patrol black neighborhoods more. Also, black people are often shot for minor offences, like jaywalking. Additionally, black people are more likely to be arrested for marijuana possession, when compared to equal cannabis use from white people**

**Sources:
https://www.aclu.org/billions-dollars-wasted-racially-biased-arrests
http://news.yahoo.com/pot-arrests-more-likely-blacks-180649118.html

they patrol black areas more frequently because they are more likely to find criminals there.

And that is a direct violation of the Fourth. Race is not reasonable suspicion to get a warrant to get into someone's car, or pull them over and ask for papers if they look like they're Mexican. Let's fix this, as Americans, it is our moral duty to restore the constitution.

It is not okay to pull someone over because of their race, but there is nothing wrong with the police from being somewhere that the public is otherwise allowed to be legally. The police patrolling certain neighborhoods would meet this criteria.

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Quote from: awesome31312 on September 10, 2014, 07:11:50 AM

No, that's the witness that lied on the day of the incident, you got the two confused.

Speaking of Trayvon Martin, remember George Zimmerman?

i'm not confused, theres only 1 Dorian Johnson

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2732122/Revealed-Key-Michael-Brown-shooting-witness-Dorian-Johnson-arrest-warrant-theft-busted-lying-cops.html

zimmerman charges were dropped not that its relevant to anything

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Quote from: saddampbuh on September 10, 2014, 09:30:18 AM

Quote from: awesome31312 on September 10, 2014, 08:58:05 AM

Cops tend to patrol black neighborhoods more. Also, black people are often shot for minor offences, like jaywalking. Additionally, black people are more likely to be arrested for marijuana possession, when compared to equal cannabis use from white people**

**Sources:
https://www.aclu.org/billions-dollars-wasted-racially-biased-arrests
http://news.yahoo.com/pot-arrests-more-likely-blacks-180649118.html

they patrol black areas more frequently because they are more likely to find criminals there.

And that is a direct violation of the Fourth. Race is not reasonable suspicion to get a warrant to get into someone's car, or pull them over and ask for papers if they look like they're Mexican. Let's fix this, as Americans, it is our moral duty to restore the constitution.

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Quote from: saddampbuh on September 10, 2014, 08:49:45 AM

Quote from: awesome31312 on September 10, 2014, 08:14:46 AM

Michael Brown was unarmed, so was Kelly Thomas, and so was Rodney King, Amadou Diallo, Manuel Loggins Jr., Ronald Madison, Sean Bell, Eric Garner, I could go on forever, but I believe I have confirmed that police are trigger happy, and all of the men listed with the exception of Kelly Thomas were people of color.

what kind of reasoning is this? if i posted names of cops/white ppl shot by black criminals would it prove mike brown's guilt? of course police shootings are going to disproportionately target blacks as blacks commit a disproportionate number of violent crimes

Cops tend to patrol black neighborhoods more. Also, black people are often shot for minor offences, like jaywalking. Additionally, black people are more likely to be arrested for marijuana possession, when compared to equal cannabis use from white people**

**Sources:
https://www.aclu.org/billions-dollars-wasted-racially-biased-arrests
http://news.yahoo.com/pot-arrests-more-likely-blacks-180649118.html

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Quote from: saddampbuh on September 10, 2014, 07:28:00 AM

Quote from: awesome31312 on September 10, 2014, 07:11:50 AM

No, that's the witness that lied on the day of the incident, you got the two confused.

Speaking of Trayvon Martin, remember George Zimmerman?

i'm not confused, theres only 1 Dorian Johnson

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2732122/Revealed-Key-Michael-Brown-shooting-witness-Dorian-Johnson-arrest-warrant-theft-busted-lying-cops.html

zimmerman charges were dropped not that its relevant to anything

Michael Brown was unarmed, so was Kelly Thomas, and so was Rodney King, Amadou Diallo, Manuel Loggins Jr., Ronald Madison, Sean Bell, Eric Garner, I could go on forever, but I believe I have confirmed that police are trigger happy, and all of the men listed with the exception of Kelly Thomas were people of color.

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Quote from: awesome31312 on September 10, 2014, 06:32:59 AM

Unlikely. Two eyewitnesses testified that Brown had his hands up in the air when he got shot, and he was unarmed.

Remember the autopsy report which proved that a lot of the witnesses lied on the day? Well, the truth just came out
http://hotair.com/archives/2014/08/18/two-eyewitness-accounts-of-the-michael-brown-shooting/

the witness in your article has a record for giving false info to the police and outstanding arrest warrant for theft. hardly the most credible and bear in mind these ppl stand to make a fortune telling their story just like the trayvon parents and friends.

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Quote from: saddampbuh on September 10, 2014, 06:47:09 AM

Quote from: awesome31312 on September 10, 2014, 06:32:59 AM

Unlikely. Two eyewitnesses testified that Brown had his hands up in the air when he got shot, and he was unarmed.

Remember the autopsy report which proved that a lot of the witnesses lied on the day? Well, the truth just came out
http://hotair.com/archives/2014/08/18/two-eyewitness-accounts-of-the-michael-brown-shooting/

the witness in your article has a record for giving false info to the police and outstanding arrest warrant for theft. hardly the most credible and bear in mind these ppl stand to make a fortune telling their story just like the trayvon parents and friends.

No, that's the witness that lied on the day of the incident, you got the two confused.

Speaking of Trayvon Martin, remember George Zimmerman?

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Quote from: saddampbuh on September 10, 2014, 06:30:09 AM

if and i say if the cops version turns out be true and brown did in fact punch him go for his gun and then make a run at him the shooting would seem to me to be entirely justified

Unlikely. Two eyewitnesses testified that Brown had his hands up in the air when he got shot, and he was unarmed.

Remember the autopsy report which proved that a lot of the witnesses lied on the day? Well, the truth just came out
http://hotair.com/archives/2014/08/18/two-eyewitness-accounts-of-the-michael-brown-shooting/

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if and i say if the cops version turns out be true and brown did in fact punch him go for his gun and then make a run at him the shooting would seem to me to be entirely justified

remember how everyone jumped to conclusion over trayvon incident then it turned out he attacked zimmerman and beat him to the ground, lets not jump to conclusions

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Quote from: Xiaoxiao on September 09, 2014, 08:40:13 AM

2) Has their been cases where caucasian unarmed potential suspect has been fatally gunned down by police?

No, in fact, look at the comparison

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I really don't know as I've not been following this story too closely. It became a very confusing issue for me after the first shooting took place. This second shooting was just adding to the confusion and no real facts came out. This whole "race issue" is slowing down the facts form getting out and who knows what will happen if people suspect a cover up. It's likely going to add to more confusion if you ask me. I can't believe how poorly these shootings were handled by the police, media and the people running a muck in the streets. It would be nice to get some updates on this whole fiasco.

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Quote from: williamj2543 on September 09, 2014, 11:58:43 AM

I hate when people place the race card

You cannot deny that this is a race based issue, Sir.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/08/29/1325816/-Comparing-How-The-New-York-Times-Described-Mike-Brown-Ted-Bundy

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I hate when people place the race card

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Quote from: Xiaoxiao on September 09, 2014, 08:40:13 AM

2) Has their been cases where caucasian unarmed potential suspect has been fatally gunned down by police?

It has happened many times before. But the big difference is that the perpetrator was also from the same race. In such cases, no one can argue about the racial motivation for the shooting. Even if there was some incident where the victim was white and the perpetrator was black (was there any?), the media never gave it any publicity.

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