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Topic: The Official MCXNOW - REALSOLID SCAM Thread - Please add to this if u scammed. - page 4. (Read 13083 times)

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OK, so "maybe" scam is the wrong word to use. I mean it is IS a scam, but using that word gives some people an argument. I guess the better word to use here is con.  He pushed his fee shares HARD. Literally promising that people that bought his fee shares would be rich. He said that. He used his money that he made from the exchange to pump them.  Spent hundreds of btc of banns and pumps to bloat the fee share payouts to make the fee shares look a lot more attractive. Of course being the owner of the exchange, he had TONS people all over his dick helping him promote the fee shares.

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RS, YOU are the reason that we need regulation, at least when it comes to exchanges.

WHY CANT WE HAVE ONE SINGLE, GOOD AND HONEST EXCHANGE?


Wrong. Real Solid never promised mcxFEE will make anyone "rich". It's just like stock. There's no warranty at all. it can go up or down.

You ask for "regulation"? You don't know what you're asking for. Just politicians regulating what they aren't capable of doing themselves.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUvUtqTmd5c

And if you want a "single, good and honest exchange" why don't you do it yourself? You can even do an exchange without being a programmer:

http://bex.io/
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OK, so "maybe" scam is the wrong word to use. I mean it is IS a scam, but using that word gives some people an argument. I guess the better word to use here is con.  He pushed his fee shares HARD. Literally promising that people that bought his fee shares would be rich. He said that. He used his money that he made from the exchange to pump them.  Spent hundreds of btc of banns and pumps to bloat the fee share payouts to make the fee shares look a lot more attractive. Of course being the owner of the exchange, he had TONS people all over his dick helping him promote the fee shares.

He said many many times how mcxnow would be the biggest and best exchange ever.  He claimed it would take down btc-e, and one day gox.  He wouldnt even need to add fiat because he was working on Microcash! And OOOHHHH boy once microcash went live, the early adopters of mc and fee shares were going to have it made!  Buy and hold, buy and hold or you were a moron!  THEN, with ZERO WARNING after he made MILLIONS from the fee shares, it was all suddenly just too much work. SOOO much work that the great RS just couldnt take it anymore. (once he has made more money than he will ever need for the rest of his life) It SUDDENLY without warning became too much to deal with and he had to close up shop. But you know... he is sorry about that.

NOW he is opening the exchange again, but only trading coins that he owns. Literally owns, he made them.  He claims to have bought back most of the fee shares he sold.  (sold at .4, bought back at or around .1)
Who knows where this will end.  If the website will just shut down and go away, or if it will limp along and try to milk a few more people out of some funds.  It seems like in this community people just line up to throw away their money, even as they see others fall.

So did he steal coins?  No, he conned people. He lied about the future of fee shares, and he lied or misled people about how he would handle the exchange. NO ONE saw the shut down coming, except him, while he pushed his fee shares. True he didnt FORCE anyone to do anything, but you bet your ass he misled them on purpose, knowing he was selling something that was shit, or that he would turn to shit and buy back cheap!

SO did he "scam"  YES 100% yes. no question to anyone who lost shittons of btc believing his promises only to have the rug pulled out from under their feet.

I was conned.  I believed in RS, despite all the people on this forum telling me not to. I believed because he wrote the best exchange out there.  I believed because in chat he claimed to be a sensible libertarian, and I thought he was an honest person. I was wrong, and RS you should be ashamed. (I know you wont care, fuck it you are rich now) You people defending his CON should also be ashamed, even if the site reopens, HE CONNED PEOPLE WITH FEE SHARES! plain and simple.

RS, YOU are the reason that we need regulation, at least when it comes to exchanges.

WHY CANT WE HAVE ONE SINGLE, GOOD AND HONEST EXCHANGE?

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It doesnt have to be a scam to be bad.
  Im not aiming to defend anyone but which is a worse scenario:  a site compromised by bad security, phishing even  or a site with bad customer service but none the less has retained all its funds intact.

I could meet the nicest website admin ever and he is a real great guy but if he loses my funds somehow then he sucks and nothing redeems that situation.  Vice versa, I dont care so much because its not really about feel good stuff.
  Shutting down the site like that was a really silly thing (a large part of worth can be goodwill, reputation and wheres that now?) to do imo and its obviously bad but theres always worse and big websites have accidentally or negligently done their customers far worse service then this one did purposefully.
   That is not a defence its just a comparison imo

Yes. Compare for example to inputs.io, also in Australia. Probably people here wouldn't call it a "scam", but, as you wrote, the coins were stolen. I prefer to use mcxNow which is much more secure, than to risk my coins in another site where I can't even chat with the creator.

Real Solid made the best, most secure and fastest exchange I saw on the internet. Bugs and problems will happen. Bugs are being fixed. In 3 or 4 weeks we will have the site fully operational again.

And people complaining here are missing the opportunity to buy cheap mcxFEE. When mcxFEE reach much higher value, it will be late for crying Wink.

STT
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It doesnt have to be a scam to be bad.
  Im not aiming to defend anyone but which is a worse scenario:  a site compromised by bad security, phishing even  or a site with bad customer service but none the less has retained all its funds intact.

I could meet the nicest website admin ever and he is a real great guy but if he loses my funds somehow then he sucks and nothing redeems that situation.  Vice versa, I dont care so much because its not really about feel good stuff.
  Shutting down the site like that was a really silly thing (a large part of worth can be goodwill, reputation and wheres that now?) to do imo and its obviously bad but theres always worse and big websites have accidentally or negligently done their customers far worse service then this one did purposefully.
   That is not a defence its just a comparison imo
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I thought I would read real arguments here. So those who scream "mcxNow is a scam!" can't show a simple and real argument?

All of you failed to convince me mcxNow is a scam. Keep trying Smiley

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Nobody was "scammed". mcxNow is up and running.

I'm calling Dâniel Fraga another Realsolid sock puppet account. Got to be. Nobody could naturally be this stupid.


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I'm calling Dâniel Fraga another Realsolid sock puppet account. Got to be. Nobody could naturally be this stupid.


You can call me whatever you want Wink It doesn't affect me. It just shows you don't have inteligence to write me a true argument, just
"Ad hominem".
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Nobody was "scammed". mcxNow is up and running.

I'm calling Dâniel Fraga another Realsolid sock puppet account. Got to be. Nobody could naturally be this stupid.
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A scam doesn't require force of any kind.  I fail to see how the fact that nobody was 'forced' to do anything exonerates RS in any way.

Nobody was "scammed". mcxNow is up and running. Private site and private rules. You are not the owner of mcxNow. So why do you want to dictate rules?

So you're against individual freedom and voluntary exchange. So you're just another statist wanting to regulate and dictate how people use sites.

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I hear e-mail based password resets are hard to code, that's why almost no website has them.

Since the beginning, it was made clear that no e-mail will ever be send from mcxNow to preserve user's privacy.

Even if Real Solid could use e-mail for users who want to enable e-mail password reset, he is free to decide to not use any e-mail at all for this.
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The scam is selling hundreds or thousands of BTC in fee shares for 0.4 BTC each that he has no intention of ever paying fees on, weeks before shutting down.

Telling everyone to withdraw their coins, making him plenty more in transaction fees, unwithdrawable dust, etc.  It also gives him cover in case he ever has to talk to authorities after he disappears with the rest of the coins in his exchange.  Everyone has to withdraw because he has to do his testing on the live site?  Can't create another DNS record and vhost?  Maybe he could use some of his millions for a dev server?


Nobody is being forced to do anything. If it was a "scam", Real Solid could just shutdown the exchange and that's it.


A scam doesn't require force of any kind.  I fail to see how the fact that nobody was 'forced' to do anything exonerates RS in any way.
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The scam is selling hundreds or thousands of BTC in fee shares for 0.4 BTC each that he has no intention of ever paying fees on, weeks before shutting down.

Telling everyone to withdraw their coins, making him plenty more in transaction fees, unwithdrawable dust, etc.  It also gives him cover in case he ever has to talk to authorities after he disappears with the rest of the coins in his exchange.  Everyone has to withdraw because he has to do his testing on the live site?  Can't create another DNS record and vhost?  Maybe he could use some of his millions for a dev server?


Nobody is being forced to do anything. If it was a "scam", Real Solid could just shutdown the exchange and that's it.

And nobody was forced to buy any mcxFEE. The only ones who sold mcxFEE are desperate people who didn't understand what happened.

Now Real Solid decided to resume Mincoin/Solidcoin trading and charge for the support in case the problem was caused by the user (lost password). This will make a lot
easier to do the support and benefit all users.

This is free market. If someone doesn't like mcxNow, use Vircurex, BTC-E or even "Cryptsy" (the worst exchange ever).

I hear e-mail based password resets are hard to code, that's why almost no website has them.
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Ahh, but am I crying because of upset or crying because of laughter?


The crying if free Cheesy

We will see who will laugh in the future Wink.

legendary
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So do not use mcxNow Smiley It's simple as that Wink Did somebody pointed a gun to your head forcing you to use mcxNow? No! So stop crying.

Ahh, but am I crying because of upset or crying because of laughter?
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Ethics and Science need to shake hands
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This reminds me a little when the pirate ponzi imploded. People were actually taking bets he was legit. Oh dear.....

If the site goes back up, how does that prove it's not a scam? It doesn't. It just means he's back to lube up and penetrate you all again.

Anyway, he can't be doing much serious coding because he's on the troll box 18 hours a day.


So do not use mcxNow Smiley It's simple as that Wink Did somebody pointed a gun to your head forcing you to use mcxNow? No! So stop crying.
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The scam is selling hundreds or thousands of BTC in fee shares for 0.4 BTC each that he has no intention of ever paying fees on, weeks before shutting down.

Telling everyone to withdraw their coins, making him plenty more in transaction fees, unwithdrawable dust, etc.  It also gives him cover in case he ever has to talk to authorities after he disappears with the rest of the coins in his exchange.  Everyone has to withdraw because he has to do his testing on the live site?  Can't create another DNS record and vhost?  Maybe he could use some of his millions for a dev server?


Nobody is being forced to do anything. If it was a "scam", Real Solid could just shutdown the exchange and that's it.

And nobody was forced to buy any mcxFEE. The only ones who sold mcxFEE are desperate people who didn't understand what happened.

Now Real Solid decided to resume Mincoin/Solidcoin trading and charge for the support in case the problem was caused by the user (lost password). This will make a lot
easier to do the support and benefit all users.

This is free market. If someone doesn't like mcxNow, use Vircurex, BTC-E or even "Cryptsy" (the worst exchange ever).
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Wat
lol you "invested" with this guy ?
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I'll be back in this topic when v3 shows up and ask the same ones who are accusing mcxNow of "scam" if they will apologize for the false claim.

This reminds me a little when the pirate ponzi imploded. People were actually taking bets he was legit. Oh dear.....

If the site goes back up, how does that prove it's not a scam? It doesn't. It just means he's back to lube up and penetrate you all again.

Anyway, he can't be doing much serious coding because he's on the troll box 18 hours a day.
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Open your eyes and read what's going on for crying out loud. It's a very, very, very, very, very, very, obvious scam.

Bury your head in the sand if you want. Good luck with that.


Those who scream "it's a scam" just say that and nothing else.

What happened to mcxNow was a bad decision to stop trading (this could be avoided if Real Solid halted support for a while, fixed the bugs, implemented new features etc).

But what's done is done. It's silly to complain now. What people should do now is stay calm, be rational and do NOT sell the mcxFEE until the v3 site appears.

I'll be back in this topic when v3 shows up and ask the same ones who are accusing mcxNow of "scam" if they will apologize for the false claim.



The scam is selling hundreds or thousands of BTC in fee shares for 0.4 BTC each that he has no intention of ever paying fees on, weeks before shutting down.

Telling everyone to withdraw their coins, making him plenty more in transaction fees, unwithdrawable dust, etc.  It also gives him cover in case he ever has to talk to authorities after he disappears with the rest of the coins in his exchange.  Everyone has to withdraw because he has to do his testing on the live site?  Can't create another DNS record and vhost?  Maybe he could use some of his millions for a dev server?


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