Topic: The Open Source Block Erupter Project - page 6. (Read 18967 times)
The power draw is looking good!
My god it's beautiful.
Where do we buy them??
Also how many chips @ 192gh?
You can purchase chips and make this devices of your own.Where do we buy them??
Also how many chips @ 192gh?
You can also buy from our customers who are going to produce according to this open source X24 design.
Each board has 24 chips and hashes at 192gh at this setting. So the total is 192*4=768gh. The hash speed
can be got higher or lower according to your voltage.
We had AM_BE200_X24 boards produced and tested. We also sampled the compatible heatsinks and supporting structures for them. It hashes at 192GH with 0.85-0.92W/G without PSU. Power draws on higher/lower hashrate with higher/lower voltage is under testing. The design files of heatsinks/structures are going to be released a little later.
It should be emphasized that QUAD and X32 are also produced and well tested before X24.
It should be emphasized that QUAD and X32 are also produced and well tested before X24.
My god it's beautiful.
Where do we buy them??
Also how many chips @ 192gh?
We had AM_BE200_X24 boards sampled and tested. We also sampled the compatible heatsinks and supporting structures for them. It hashes at 768GH (each board 192GH) with 0.85-0.92W/G (PSU loss excluded). Power draws on higher/lower hashrate with higher/lower voltage is under testing. The design files of heatsinks/structures are going to be released a little later.
It should be emphasized that QUAD and X32 are also sampled and well tested before X24.
It should be emphasized that QUAD and X32 are also sampled and well tested before X24.
Where is intron and cscape..... they should be all over this 
Working on other stuff now...
Where is intron and cscape..... they should be all over this
Yes, if they completely open-sourced the chip, practically everyone (who can afford a $1.3m mask set) would be able to produce their chips. Hence, AM could get serious problems selling their chips - large customers could just produce them themselves. AM and its investors would be screwed.
After selling the chip isn't profitable anymore or only self-mining is being done, and assuming the chip doesn't contain too much trade-secrets for gen 4, I think it's a nice thing to release the blueprints.
After selling the chip isn't profitable anymore or only self-mining is being done, and assuming the chip doesn't contain too much trade-secrets for gen 4, I think it's a nice thing to release the blueprints.
Dump the old on the public keep the new for the AM shareholders. Just have to time that right so you don't get caught with your pants down so to speak. That might have worked in the 1st and 2nd Gen stuff but with other players and chips in the market it the demand is going to go to the cheapest price chip / board combo. Fun times indeed.
Well, AM is a company after all, why should they just now give away their assets for free? Open sourcing the designs at a later point might be considered a mere nice gesture, IMO...
Agreed. Just pointing out the fact that "open" source doesn't always mean altruism.
Yes, if they completely open-sourced the chip, practically everyone (who can afford a $1.3m mask set) would be able to produce their chips. Hence, AM could get serious problems selling their chips - large customers could just produce them themselves. AM and its investors would be screwed.
After selling the chip isn't profitable anymore or only self-mining is being done, and assuming the chip doesn't contain too much trade-secrets for gen 4, I think it's a nice thing to release the blueprints.
After selling the chip isn't profitable anymore or only self-mining is being done, and assuming the chip doesn't contain too much trade-secrets for gen 4, I think it's a nice thing to release the blueprints.
Dump the old on the public keep the new for the AM shareholders. Just have to time that right so you don't get caught with your pants down so to speak. That might have worked in the 1st and 2nd Gen stuff but with other players and chips in the market it the demand is going to go to the cheapest price chip / board combo. Fun times indeed.
Well, AM is a company after all, why should they just now give away their assets for free? Open sourcing the designs at a later point might be considered a mere nice gesture, IMO...
Anyone interested in designing a Cube Block Erupter retro-fit?
now we're talking!!! there's a large market for this and the earlier blades too, since the power boards are out there.if people could buy replacement blades for either platform, they would. and if they could replace one at a time that would be phenomenal as well.
It would be nice for someone to try to debug the TCP stack and figure out how to make it work correctly
Anyone interested in designing a Cube Block Erupter retro-fit?
now we're talking!!! there's a large market for this and the earlier blades too, since the power boards are out there.if people could buy replacement blades for either platform, they would. and if they could replace one at a time that would be phenomenal as well.
This would be an amazing thing. I would like to re-use the cubes since they fit together and stack nicely.
Any chance the chips might be open source too?
Yes. But there are no written plans in the near term yet.Also it's much harder than making a piece of software open source, because the whole flow to generate GDS has tons of manual operations and very fab and technology node specific.
Miner is an investor in AsicMiner, by open sourcing chips wouldn't that give advantage to the competition? I assume this is why he is saying. "don't do this." you are revealing your hand to your opponents I would assume.
Yes, if they completely open-sourced the chip, practically everyone (who can afford a $1.3m mask set) would be able to produce their chips. Hence, AM could get serious problems selling their chips - large customers could just produce them themselves. AM and its investors would be screwed.
After selling the chip isn't profitable anymore or only self-mining is being done, and assuming the chip doesn't contain too much trade-secrets for gen 4, I think it's a nice thing to release the blueprints.
Dump the old on the public keep the new for the AM shareholders. Just have to time that right so you don't get caught with your pants down so to speak. That might have worked in the 1st and 2nd Gen stuff but with other players and chips in the market it the demand is going to go to the cheapest price chip / board combo. Fun times indeed.
Any chance the chips might be open source too?
Yes. But there are no written plans in the near term yet.Also it's much harder than making a piece of software open source, because the whole flow to generate GDS has tons of manual operations and very fab and technology node specific.
Miner is an investor in AsicMiner, by open sourcing chips wouldn't that give advantage to the competition? I assume this is why he is saying. "don't do this." you are revealing your hand to your opponents I would assume.
Yes, if they completely open-sourced the chip, practically everyone (who can afford a $1.3m mask set) would be able to produce their chips. Hence, AM could get serious problems selling their chips - large customers could just produce them themselves. AM and its investors would be screwed.
After selling the chip isn't profitable anymore or only self-mining is being done, and assuming the chip doesn't contain too much trade-secrets for gen 4, I think it's a nice thing to release the blueprints.
Any chance the chips might be open source too?
Yes. But there are no written plans in the near term yet.Also it's much harder than making a piece of software open source, because the whole flow to generate GDS has tons of manual operations and very fab and technology node specific.
Miner is an investor in AsicMiner, by open sourcing chips wouldn't that give advantage to the competition? I assume this is why he is saying. "don't do this." you are revealing your hand to your opponents I would assume.
Any chance the chips might be open source too?
Yes. But there are no written plans in the near term yet.Also it's much harder than making a piece of software open source, because the whole flow to generate GDS has tons of manual operations and very fab and technology node specific.
Any chance the chips might be open source too?
Yes. But there are no written plans in the near term yet.Also it's much harder than making a piece of software open source, because the whole flow to generate GDS has tons of manual operations and very fab and technology node specific.
Please don't do this in the near future
On a serious note: I'm curious, though, how would this profit AM?
Any chance the chips might be open source too?
Yes. But there are no written plans in the near term yet.Also it's much harder than making a piece of software open source, because the whole flow to generate GDS has tons of manual operations and very fab and technology node specific.
Please don't do this in the near future
On a serious note: I'm curious, though, how would this profit AM?
Any chance the chips might be open source too?
Yes. But there are no written plans in the near term yet.Also it's much harder than making a piece of software open source, because the whole flow to generate GDS has tons of manual operations and very fab and technology node specific.
Any chance the chips might be open source too?
Hehehehehehe....
Generosity does know bounds. Good try though.
Any chance the chips might be open source too?
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I prefer Zakir over Muhammed when mentioning me!
was just an observation, not adding this to the project. focus of the stated project remains as is
Okay! Just expressed my ideas! Kindly,
Muhammed Zakhir
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