Most Filipinos no longer believe when they announce a winner in the news, they carry in their minds the deceptions that the PCSO is doing to the people, not yet proven but as strong as everyone that there may be fraud going on, the government do not take action even though it has been reported several times for investigation, because there is a high probability that they are complicit in the movement of the PCSO.
That's true, we don't believe anymore to their announcements. It's just sad that these huge amount of money are going away in a legal way while those behind it doing it illegally. They really know how to do some back jobs within the law and the people can't do shit about it. That's really an effin* up system that we have nothing to say but just rant with our words and nothing will happen and even with this senate inquiry, they can't do anything with it. Many even just think that it's like all for the show just to show it to the people with the media that they're acting or doing something about this anomaly. 
Topic: The PCSO Lotto is shrouded in doubt due to the picture of the winner shown (Read 681 times)
February 03, 2024, 06:18:20 AM
February 02, 2024, 05:57:47 AM
This may be possible but the government officials of this country have a serious history of corruption. Some winners may just want to stay low-key and the whole big-check thing is often for the show. But with all the trust issues and scams going around, it's hard to take things at face value. It's a mix of personal choice and a general lack of trust in the system that keeps people guessing.
There is no doubt that some may real winner but the situation of having consecutive winners with the biggest pot, that's crazy and dubious. Right now, there's also the winner of P45M winner or approximately $800k. And again, since the news about these jackpots are posted on social media of news and current affairs for every channel, the reaction of everyone is just making each other laugh but obviously the sarcasm is there about it's the PCSO who has won again.People started to question the credibility of the draw, but as long as there's no result of investigation yet, they will still continue to bet whether through over the counter or online which is what we called the e-lotto.
Many kabayans are going to bet no matter what the issue is but, it's not also going to be removed in the minds of everyone that PCSO is doing something shady even with or without any investigation, proven or not.Most Filipinos no longer believe when they announce a winner in the news, they carry in their minds the deceptions that the PCSO is doing to the people, not yet proven but as strong as everyone that there may be fraud going on, the government do not take action even though it has been reported several times for investigation, because there is a high probability that they are complicit in the movement of the PCSO.
February 02, 2024, 05:51:29 AM
Just to give an update about this crazy consecutive wins that has happened in the PCSO lottery. Crazy millions not just in peso but in dollars. So, the PCSO has submitted the names of the winners in the senate as per this report by GMA[1]. Honestly, it's crazy that this kind of lottery issue have been brought to the senate inquiry and that is because whoever are involved behind these massive wins, there's a bigger fish or official/s that's behind it.
[1] PCSO submits names of lotto winners to Senate panel
Oh, just this day there's another lone bettor that has won around P5.9M or estimated $105k.
~> Quezon bettor wins Php 5.9-M Lotto 6/42 jackpot
[1] PCSO submits names of lotto winners to Senate panel
Oh, just this day there's another lone bettor that has won around P5.9M or estimated $105k.
~> Quezon bettor wins Php 5.9-M Lotto 6/42 jackpot
January 25, 2024, 06:03:53 PM
This may be possible but the government officials of this country have a serious history of corruption. Some winners may just want to stay low-key and the whole big-check thing is often for the show. But with all the trust issues and scams going around, it's hard to take things at face value. It's a mix of personal choice and a general lack of trust in the system that keeps people guessing.
There is no doubt that some may real winner but the situation of having consecutive winners with the biggest pot, that's crazy and dubious. Right now, there's also the winner of P45M winner or approximately $800k. And again, since the news about these jackpots are posted on social media of news and current affairs for every channel, the reaction of everyone is just making each other laugh but obviously the sarcasm is there about it's the PCSO who has won again.People started to question the credibility of the draw, but as long as there's no result of investigation yet, they will still continue to bet whether through over the counter or online which is what we called the e-lotto.
Many kabayans are going to bet no matter what the issue is but, it's not also going to be removed in the minds of everyone that PCSO is doing something shady even with or without any investigation, proven or not. 
January 23, 2024, 09:42:06 AM
Reason why the face of the lottery winner didn't show could be at the request of the winner, perhaps for security reasons, because it's not everybody that needs the publicity of their faces on social media. This is not disputing the argument whether the picture is fake, because corrupt officials can go to any length to scam the public, another observation is that when checks of this nature are presented to winners, the check is printed to look bigger so the public can read every details on it. Because of the corruption in governments people no longer have trust in them, this case in discussion might be a genuine win, but we'll never know for sure.
This may be possible but the government officials of this country have a serious history of corruption. Some winners may just want to stay low-key and the whole big-check thing is often for the show. But with all the trust issues and scams going around, it's hard to take things at face value. It's a mix of personal choice and a general lack of trust in the system that keeps people guessing.
They are already under investigation, we will know what the investigators will found out. Judging on the Philippines in terms of corrution, I must say that it's one of the most corrupt countries in the world, and corruption does not only happened in politics but also on government agencies, especially this agency that are handling billions of funds for the lottery.
People started to question the credibility of the draw, but as long as there's no result of investigation yet, they will still continue to bet whether through over the counter or online which is what we called the e-lotto.
January 22, 2024, 05:39:13 AM
Reason why the face of the lottery winner didn't show could be at the request of the winner, perhaps for security reasons, because it's not everybody that needs the publicity of their faces on social media. This is not disputing the argument whether the picture is fake, because corrupt officials can go to any length to scam the public, another observation is that when checks of this nature are presented to winners, the check is printed to look bigger so the public can read every details on it. Because of the corruption in governments people no longer have trust in them, this case in discussion might be a genuine win, but we'll never know for sure.
This may be possible but the government officials of this country have a serious history of corruption. Some winners may just want to stay low-key and the whole big-check thing is often for the show. But with all the trust issues and scams going around, it's hard to take things at face value. It's a mix of personal choice and a general lack of trust in the system that keeps people guessing.
January 22, 2024, 01:36:26 AM
Well, PCSO just admitted that photo was intentionally edited for security purposes but the only problem here is that the editor seems too confident of what he did to that photo that draws the whole nations attention. It's like removing the background of the main photo and then changing it with another one. As a result it looks funny can create doubts. 😅
Yes, because the results of the editing have become a question mark and doubts for people, I also cannot accuse any official of being corrupt in this case because there is no complete evidence for the accusation, but for a big win, security is needed so that no crime is committed. experienced the winners, I was doubtful because of the OP but this shows the pros and cons also with the photo whether there are corrupt officials involved or not.The winner might be covered already but editing it will make her identity more concealed. I'm no way of defending them but this issue alone is not a solid base to say that they are really corrupt. And I believe that not all governments who has access to money are corrupt.
Yes, that's true because this issue and the accusations are baseless, relying solely on photographic evidence, it's true that not all governments that have access to finance are corrupt countries, I agree with you that we can't make accusations from just one sided point of view, It could be true that the winnings are in accordance with PSCO procedures so that the winner's identity is kept secret to protect the winner's safety from criminal acts.I think the background that was edited was the winner's house so they needed to edit it in a room, but it wasn't very attractive for other people to see, which ultimately raised a lot of doubts and question marks. then OP made it a topic of discussion here. but whatever it is, it comes back to each individual's view.
January 22, 2024, 01:14:29 AM
It's not shrouded, it's a show of unfettered corruption that's not investigated or stopped by the authorities because they're part of the bottom line that benefits from all of this. I guess they already know that there's no backlash against the Filipino people that they're not afraid to do even this crazy display of corruption. From what I've heard, they're excusing this mishap as a way to disguise the identity of the winner but from what I've recalled there's no proof of the winning ticket that was presented so it's definitely a fake win so they can takeaway all that money for themselves.
Yup! That was aired on the news the last time, funny to think that they have a lot of money but can't afford to hire a professional digital and photo editor, even a high school student nowadays can even edit clearly than their editors. Seems like they don't have one, knowing that they are one of the richest governement agency. They literally make fun of themselves, I don't know if it's intentional so that they can be talked about more on social media or what. Well, until now most Filipinos still don't believe that there is a winner of the winning jackpot prize because if there is, it will resonate on social media and everyone will recognize who the winner is.
Oh, they do have a lot of money, it just so happens that they're a government agency and government workers are hilariously underpaid, much lower than the minimum wage in the country so that's not really an excuse that they're not paying the right amount for their employees, they just don't want to because they want to cut costs as much as possible because they're "budgeting" the taxpayer's money when that's not really the case even if they deny it. January 22, 2024, 01:01:44 AM
Well, PCSO just admitted that photo was intentionally edited for security purposes but the only problem here is that the editor seems too confident of what he did to that photo that draws the whole nations attention. It's like removing the background of the main photo and then changing it with another one. As a result it looks funny can create doubts. 😅
Yup! That was aired on the news the last time, funny to think that they have a lot of money but can't afford to hire a professional digital and photo editor, even a high school student nowadays can even edit clearly than their editors. Seems like they don't have one, knowing that they are one of the richest governement agency. They literally make fun of themselves, I don't know if it's intentional so that they can be talked about more on social media or what. Well, until now most Filipinos still don't believe that there is a winner of the winning jackpot prize because if there is, it will resonate on social media and everyone will recognize who the winner is.
You said it right, or maybe the one who did this wanted to share something indirectly, maybe he did what he shows up to be notice and now
there's controversy circulating inside the agency.
We can't tell what the possibilities are but who knows? maybe this person who edited the picture wanted to bring this anomaly in public.
Now, that there's issue and there is investigation that circulating around, we might know what's the truth behind this edited picture
and who are those behind it.
January 20, 2024, 06:14:55 PM
Well, PCSO just admitted that photo was intentionally edited for security purposes but the only problem here is that the editor seems too confident of what he did to that photo that draws the whole nations attention. It's like removing the background of the main photo and then changing it with another one. As a result it looks funny can create doubts. 😅
Yup! That was aired on the news the last time, funny to think that they have a lot of money but can't afford to hire a professional digital and photo editor, even a high school student nowadays can even edit clearly than their editors. Seems like they don't have one, knowing that they are one of the richest governement agency. They literally make fun of themselves, I don't know if it's intentional so that they can be talked about more on social media or what. Well, until now most Filipinos still don't believe that there is a winner of the winning jackpot prize because if there is, it will resonate on social media and everyone will recognize who the winner is.
January 20, 2024, 02:34:05 PM
This is what we are, we just make fun of some controversies even if they're serious because we can't do anything with it. The officials are actually the laughing stock on this matter but they're just trying to defend on it and the general manager even said that their agency(PCSO) isn't really good at editing and that's not a matter because they're just trying to hide and protect the actual winner. I am waiting for the senate inquiry if they're going to be firm on their investigation on this one and if there will be corrupt officials that will be caught on this unusual high prized lottery that can be part of the guinness. 
Will really be something huge. This lottery has been running for decades and if this will be proven with cheating intentions, then for sure other winners will also be questioned. Let us think of how many people are dreaming to win the jackpot that they spent their money and time with, to be made fun of. What if other winners aren't real? Where did the money went if that's so? This will again be an issue concerning how bad the situation is in Philippines when it is about corruption.Better for poor bettor not to take any chance to bet on rigged lottery since they are just wasting their money their while those corrupt officials enjoy what they are doing and they just wait for the jackpot price to go up again then repeat this manipulative results what they commonly done.
are really that too confident on doing shit things because they do know that they could really that be able to get out easily or something that do talks that they can pay up everyone
just to keep their mouth shut up. This is why even this shit edited photos surfaced out and get tons of criticisms but sooner or later this one would really be just simply be
that forgotten or would really be that simply be that people just moved on because there's nothing that they can do with this but rather just simply sit
and continue on what they are doing.
January 20, 2024, 02:24:02 PM
That's obviously edited. And even the organization has already admitted that it is indeed edited. And they seem to have a valid excuse: to keep the winner's anonymity. But I don't understand how editing is relevant. After all, the winner is already covered all over.
The doubt as to corruption has solid basis. Government officials having access to money have all been corrupt. If they are stealing money even from small projects at the expense of the project's obvious quality, why shouldn't they steal huge amounts of money that is just to be given away to unknown and unidentified individuals? That would be much easier to steal. If they've moved heaven and earth just to steal from carefully audited government funds, why would they stop themselves from stealing this as well?
At first glance I thought it was just a normal picture but after reading the OP's post and see the " edited " word, I look at the pic again and noticed something strange in the woman's pants. Yet, I'm still not sure if it's truly edited or not, since I can sometimes see a picture like this which are not edited. But if it came to their own mouth that it was really edited, then fine. What can we do? At least they gave out a valid reason for it. That should make the people who criticized them to be quiet now.The doubt as to corruption has solid basis. Government officials having access to money have all been corrupt. If they are stealing money even from small projects at the expense of the project's obvious quality, why shouldn't they steal huge amounts of money that is just to be given away to unknown and unidentified individuals? That would be much easier to steal. If they've moved heaven and earth just to steal from carefully audited government funds, why would they stop themselves from stealing this as well?
The winner might be covered already but editing it will make her identity more concealed. I'm no way of defending them but this issue alone is not a solid base to say that they are really corrupt. And I believe that not all governments who has access to money are corrupt.
January 20, 2024, 04:08:28 AM
This is what we are, we just make fun of some controversies even if they're serious because we can't do anything with it. The officials are actually the laughing stock on this matter but they're just trying to defend on it and the general manager even said that their agency(PCSO) isn't really good at editing and that's not a matter because they're just trying to hide and protect the actual winner. I am waiting for the senate inquiry if they're going to be firm on their investigation on this one and if there will be corrupt officials that will be caught on this unusual high prized lottery that can be part of the guinness.
Will really be something huge. This lottery has been running for decades and if this will be proven with cheating intentions, then for sure other winners will also be questioned. Let us think of how many people are dreaming to win the jackpot that they spent their money and time with, to be made fun of. What if other winners aren't real? Where did the money went if that's so? This will again be an issue concerning how bad the situation is in Philippines when it is about corruption.Better for poor bettor not to take any chance to bet on rigged lottery since they are just wasting their money their while those corrupt officials enjoy what they are doing and they just wait for the jackpot price to go up again then repeat this manipulative results what they commonly done.
January 20, 2024, 04:04:18 AM
Well, PCSO just admitted that photo was intentionally edited for security purposes but the only problem here is that the editor seems too confident of what he did to that photo that draws the whole nations attention. It's like removing the background of the main photo and then changing it with another one. As a result it looks funny can create doubts. 😅
It wasn't the first time that they've edited a winner's photo. But this time, it has draw a lot of attention because it's like the entire circus that we're seeing going down.Quote
Tthe Philippine Charity Sweepstakes Office (PCSO) said it will submit the names of lotto winners in a Senate executive session if subpoenaed after an edited photo of a Lotto 6/42 jackpot winner went viral.
https://www.gmanetwork.com/news/topstories/content/894652/raffy-tulfo-asks-pcso-for-names-of-lotto-winners/story/
So maybe in the next hearing, the real winner will come up and tell the whole story?
January 20, 2024, 03:31:17 AM
Well, PCSO just admitted that photo was intentionally edited for security purposes but the only problem here is that the editor seems too confident of what he did to that photo that draws the whole nations attention. It's like removing the background of the main photo and then changing it with another one. As a result it looks funny can create doubts. 😅
January 20, 2024, 03:09:59 AM
but never in my entire life have i seen or known someone who actually won sweepstakes in our country. the one on tv who ironed his ticket got his money after several years but there must have been some arrangement behind the scenes that he only got a partial amount.
There's a real winner. It's just that in that case on this topic, it was suspicious especially that the jackpot was being raised and the timing is critical. It's a tactic to attract people to bet more. I don't know if PCSO are thinking properly and they should anticipate that posting that pic will really raised some questions.
Regarding that lotto winner that still got his money after being ironed, he should just be thankful because it's clear on the lottoery terms that the winning lotto ticket should be properly in its 100% proper state when claiming the money. But as report says, he still got home millions. Not bad at all even that person did some mistake.
The real winner has claimed it already, it could be in lumpsum and it's good to hear. And as what we expected,Quote
Tthe Philippine Charity Sweepstakes Office (PCSO) said it will submit the names of lotto winners in a Senate executive session if subpoenaed after an edited photo of a Lotto 6/42 jackpot winner went viral.
https://www.gmanetwork.com/news/topstories/content/894652/raffy-tulfo-asks-pcso-for-names-of-lotto-winners/story/
So maybe in the next hearing, the real winner will come up and tell the whole story?
January 20, 2024, 01:57:18 AM
This is what we are, we just make fun of some controversies even if they're serious because we can't do anything with it. The officials are actually the laughing stock on this matter but they're just trying to defend on it and the general manager even said that their agency(PCSO) isn't really good at editing and that's not a matter because they're just trying to hide and protect the actual winner. I am waiting for the senate inquiry if they're going to be firm on their investigation on this one and if there will be corrupt officials that will be caught on this unusual high prized lottery that can be part of the guinness.
Will really be something huge. This lottery has been running for decades and if this will be proven with cheating intentions, then for sure other winners will also be questioned. Let us think of how many people are dreaming to win the jackpot that they spent their money and time with, to be made fun of. What if other winners aren't real? Where did the money went if that's so? This will again be an issue concerning how bad the situation is in Philippines when it is about corruption. January 19, 2024, 05:25:21 PM
but never in my entire life have i seen or known someone who actually won sweepstakes in our country. the one on tv who ironed his ticket got his money after several years but there must have been some arrangement behind the scenes that he only got a partial amount.
There's a real winner. It's just that in that case on this topic, it was suspicious especially that the jackpot was being raised and the timing is critical. It's a tactic to attract people to bet more. I don't know if PCSO are thinking properly and they should anticipate that posting that pic will really raised some questions.
Regarding that lotto winner that still got his money after being ironed, he should just be thankful because it's clear on the lottoery terms that the winning lotto ticket should be properly in its 100% proper state when claiming the money. But as report says, he still got home millions. Not bad at all even that person did some mistake.
January 19, 2024, 04:49:29 PM
it's funny the Senate is now interested in the money that is from PCSO, they used to just ignore Manoling Morato faking wins.
correct me if I am wrong but wasn't that guy got charged for plunder and was arrested?why do they have to edit in such as manner when they could just blur the face of the person. the previous winners were never even shown to the public but because they seem to be encouraging everyone to try buying tickets, they are marketing sweepstakes so now the spotlight is focusing on them.
probably trying to be creative, and yeah, I agree, a simple censoring or blurring would have been more than enough and people would not have been suspicious about it, also putting out a disclaimer for the reason of blurring/censoring would help too.not sure if he was charged with plunder.
but Manoling is too good. he will share with whoever is necessary to share money with so they are going to be working and protecting each other's backs. the current chairperson must have been greedy and took the money for the few only.
but never in my entire life have i seen or known someone who actually won sweepstakes in our country. the one on tv who ironed his ticket got his money after several years but there must have been some arrangement behind the scenes that he only got a partial amount.
January 19, 2024, 04:14:20 PM
So two things came to my mind:
1. the result was rigged and they might just pick random people to win, but it's all just front for them
Well if money talks then maybe they can pay this guy to be quiet? We know that everyone can do anything in terms of money now, so it's possible that they can do it or even worst. Remember what happen to the Philippines as well with those e-sabong? there are a lot of individuals who disappear or maybe killed.
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2. there is a real winner, but the way they hide the faces looks very suspicious
It looks that way, they just hired a guy who has poor editing skills or if they come out with an edited picture they better tell it straight to the public for transparency it's hard when the public finds out, they will have suspicion and this can put the agency's reputation in peril. Exactly, maybe they are in a hurry, or they think that Filipinos will not recognized that something is odd on that picture. And yet they released it to the public and it was obviously a wrong move in their part. But I doubt that the heads are going to roll on this one. Although it has been investigated, perhaps they will just shuffle the position of those who are involved here, IMHO.
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