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Topic: The PCSO Lotto is shrouded in doubt due to the picture of the winner shown - page 2. (Read 596 times)

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With all the tools available you can edit almost anything and make it real, or manipulate it like this one, but it has been proven that there are winners, and the PCSO the governing body of the Philippine lotto has addressed all allegations in the past, I'm sure they can address this one so the lottery will not lose its reputation, the picture may have been edited but we all know how different lottery in the Philippines is and the culture of winning a lottery, the winners don't want their identity to expose unlike in other countries when it's ok to do so.



Oh man, I can see this is fake. Where once was no window, there's a window. And all those boxes in the background changed. I don't mind her handing the win to her twin sister, but the walls is just sloppy 3/5 Cheesy

Joking, good job!

I don't know why they'd go to such lengths to hide the real winner. Isn't it much easier to simply make her pose in a hat and glasses? Nobody is going to recognize her anyway unless she wants them to and she will want them to. Imagine you live next to a neighbor and she suddenly changes her car, remodels the house, throws a party... People are going to suspect she won some money. Or is she going to act like she's poor now and never use any of it in public, just invest and hold it for kids and such? That's safe but money's meant to be spent, or you're getting raped by inflation.
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I suppose that is some lottery state and also here we have a state lottery.The problem there in your country I don't know but in here every draw of the winning ticket runs live on TV and it is mandatory for the winner to claim the winnings next week in TV,maybe this is bad for privacy yet that is how it is setup here,of course the maximum amount here is 100.000 EUR or a 80 square meter apartment and the price is not in those values like 800.000 EUR or along those lines.I think if the lottery providers want to promote their lottery as genuine and with huge amounts the real time video or a TV show is the best way to go about this.
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Obviously, it was edited. Their explanation says that they did it to hide the identity of the winner which indeed makes sense however the way they act upon their purpose isn't professional. How many times an individual won the lottery? Why is this the first time they made it too edited? They could just blur the face of the winner or alike actions that wouldn't turn it to some sort of a joke. They have money in the first place to hire someone to do it the 'right' way. I understand why people are mad of what happened; many are frustrated to win such huge amount and some are even betting for decades which are enough reasons to take things seriously. What they did is pure insensitivity, I think.
Now the picture has become a laughing stock and the lady become a meme just look on these pictures.
This is what we are, we just make fun of some controversies even if they're serious because we can't do anything with it. The officials are actually the laughing stock on this matter but they're just trying to defend on it and the general manager even said that their agency(PCSO) isn't really good at editing and that's not a matter because they're just trying to hide and protect the actual winner. I am waiting for the senate inquiry if they're going to be firm on their investigation on this one and if there will be corrupt officials that will be caught on this unusual high prized lottery that can be part of the guinness.  Grin
Will really be something huge. This lottery has been running for decades and if this will be proven with cheating intentions, then for sure other winners will also be questioned. Let us think of how many people are dreaming to win the jackpot that they spent their money and time with, to be made fun of. What if other winners aren't real? Where did the money went if that's so? This will again be an issue concerning how bad the situation is in Philippines when it is about corruption.
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What's your thought about that picture, is it real or edicted?

Of course it's fake. You can see that her clothes were painted on. Why would they even change her dress and everything? Why not simply blur the face, or make her wear a Guy Fawkes mask. That would've been funny.
That's is the very point on why majority of us think that it could be a fake person or there is a fake winner with the way they edited the photo itself. And people quickly realized it but it's too late for the institution to offer an apology as they have been judge by the public already. So the point that they've been mock and ordered to explain to the Senate what really happen or if there is a real winner.

I'd say the win was real, but they made a picture and someone was concerned about the safety of the winner or something and some idiot decided to photoshop it and it came out looking like a joke. Like this whole thing was faked. The person responsible for allowing an inexperienced person to edit the photo and post it should be fired because it makes the whole operation look unprofessional.
The only one that can proved that is the person who claim the winner ticket. But his life will be in jeopardy if he goes to the public because admit it or not, everyone is a freeloader if they know who won the the lottery because it's a big money. So I doubt that they can force the person itself to surface. Anyhow, let this be a lesson for them in editing, just blur the face or hire some professional editor as I know that Filipinos are one of the best in this field right now.
legendary
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it's funny the Senate is now interested in the money that is from PCSO, they used to just ignore Manoling Morato faking wins.
correct me if I am wrong but wasn't that guy got charged for plunder and was arrested?

why do they have to edit in such as manner when they could just blur the face of the person. the previous winners were never even shown to the public but because they seem to be encouraging everyone to try buying tickets, they are marketing sweepstakes so now the spotlight is focusing on them.
probably trying to be creative, and yeah, I agree, a simple censoring or blurring would have been more than enough and people would not have been suspicious about it, also putting out a disclaimer for the reason of blurring/censoring would help too.
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I can even see comments from netizens says "PCSO has the winning streak" and that had me laughing for a couple of minutes in addition to some popular celebrities who also has funny comments regarding that "edited looking" post from the PCSO. It goes viral all over the Philippines and the PCSO is like a laughing stock on the social media right now. PCSO has been linked to some controversial wins even before including those 400+ winners of the jackpot prize and I don't really have any idea if they rigged it themselves or what. I am bettor as well that is why I am hesitant to place bets because of this issues.

Same here! even in the past, in the long time I've been watching the news, PCSO rarely announces the winner and identity of the winner, but recently it seems like the announcement of the winners became frequent which turns out to become suspicious. seems like they are waiting to increase the winning prize and then when the desired value is reached, they will suddenly announce a winner even though there really isn't one. There is not enough evidence to prove the fraud they are doing but it is too obvious, people in our country are not stupid enough to not notice the stupidity being done inside PCSO.
On a corrupted country then it could really happen but this one is really that seeing to be clear as day on what they are really that doing.They are really just that believing that people would really be that fool enough to believe on just showing a picture or image of a winner.? The worst is that the image is a fake and edited one. They are really that making people too low for them not to make out any reactions.
For sure there would be no bettors on lottery would really be that be making bets ever again if they would really be continuing this shit.

I dont know on whats up into their minds on how they've decided on publishing out that image without even trying to rethink on what would be publics reaction into this on which
it would really be getting once they do expose it out on which i dont know on whats into their minds but surprisingly they did really finalize
on letting it public on which they are really that making themselves laughable.


Exactly! well you got the main problem here, that's true that the country is corrupt and they even make us fool even if their actions is very obvious, even a child can identify if it's edited or not. There has been some news on this issue recently. Other government officials spoke to the general manager of the PCSO and their explanation was, they did it because they were protecting the image of the winner, but you can see on their faces as they were interviewed that they were covered up and obviously lying. So sometimes I don't really believe that when they announce that someone has won the jackpot prize, we think they have stolen or pocketed the money of the people who bet on the lottery.
They did make out such reasoning about telling that they are trying to protect the winners? Then why they would really be doing such act on where they do placed up an edited photo?
Havent they been able to think that it could really cause up that much chaos when it comes to real time feedbacks and insights of the public? I dont know on whats up into their minds
on why they are really that making such move considering that it would really be bringing out that tons of questions or even people would be laughing about this edited photo.

They are really just indeed making themselves laughable because just like been said that even a young kid would be able to tell that this is just an edited.
They better keep quiet and dont make out such foolish act on placing or sharing up an edited photo as if those things are real because peoples eyes
will really be that too sensitive whenever they do see something off or odd. So its a normal reaction i could say that they would really be doing such thing.
legendary
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What's your thought about that picture, is it real or edicted?

Of course it's fake. You can see that her clothes were painted on. Why would they even change her dress and everything? Why not simply blur the face, or make her wear a Guy Fawkes mask. That would've been funny.

I'd say the win was real, but they made a picture and someone was concerned about the safety of the winner or something and some idiot decided to photoshop it and it came out looking like a joke. Like this whole thing was faked. The person responsible for allowing an inexperienced person to edit the photo and post it should be fired because it makes the whole operation look unprofessional.
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What's your thought about that picture, is it real or edicted?
I've seen this news but I didn't really follow it. anyway, the image is clearly edited but as long as it can be verified and proven that someone actually won I don't see anything wrong if the image is edited. From my point of view, the winner is trying to hide her identity which is very understandable as we all know the possible dangers they could face if their Identity is revealed.
We netizens have a wrong impression when something is being edited especially when it comes to winning and money, the bettors want full transparency they know the stake they want the money to be won by bettors like them and not by a syndicate, they could have announce that they edited the picture upon the request of the winner for his protection and the betting public will accept that, because if they won the jackpot they will also request that their identity be hidden.
They have undermined how the public is thinking, the manager should apologize to the betting public, they created a big mess, anyway, they will learn from this lesson and they will come out with a much better way to announce the winner.
Editing should be out of their option there are a lot of innovative ways to announce the winner.
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What's your thought about that picture, is it real or edicted?
I've seen this news but I didn't really follow it. anyway, the image is clearly edited but as long as it can be verified and proven that someone actually won I don't see anything wrong if the image is edited. From my point of view, the winner is trying to hide her identity which is very understandable as we all know the possible dangers they could face if their Identity is revealed.

it's funny the Senate is now interested in the money that is from PCSO, they used to just ignore Manoling Morato faking wins. why do they have to edit in such as manner when they could just blur the face of the person. the previous winners were never even shown to the public but because they seem to be encouraging everyone to try buying tickets, they are marketing sweepstakes so now the spotlight is focusing on them.

with this investigation, they now have to share the money with the Senate since Bitag will be hiring PI to find out the truth.
legendary
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What's your thought about that picture, is it real or edicted?
I've seen this news but I didn't really follow it. anyway, the image is clearly edited but as long as it can be verified and proven that someone actually won I don't see anything wrong if the image is edited. From my point of view, the winner is trying to hide her identity which is very understandable as we all know the possible dangers they could face if their Identity is revealed.
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As we can see in the picture, it appears to be just an edited version, casting doubt on whether there was a genuine winner or if corrupt officials inside are attempting to claim the victory using that picture as evidence.
If a company or lotto organizer had to go the extent of embarrassing themselves by using a fake picture of a winner, then it means that there is no winner in the first place because if there is a winner, and he wanted to remain anonymous to the public, there are better ways to go about it than faking this picture, where the editor who created the picture did a very bad job. It is very disgraceful, because the fake picture just exposed that the lotto is also a fake and should be avoided. In some places, if there is really justice, these lotto officials deserve to answer to the law.
That is the point. If the winner didn't want to be recognized, there shouldn't be the need for taking any pictures at first place. That would be much more legit than sharing an obviously faked picture on social medias to justify a winner who might not even exist. The story is so absurd that it became funny after all... Now despite investigations and every other political procedures going on, people should just stop playing on this lottery for their own good. There are so many gambling offers available on the internet nowadays that this local lottery can be totally forgotten by Filipinos without any prejudices for them.

Anyway, don't expect anything from the government and politicians, under the risk of wasting precious time of your life waiting for a justice which may never come, because corruption is permeated through all those spheres of power.
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The general manager's statement is very surprising, what do they mean that they are not good at editing they have millions of budgets, don't tell us that they don't have a decent editor or they don't have one, even a grade 4 student can do better on editing, the senate should continue with the investigation, there is a winner in another lottery and its a huge amount over $12 million, let's see how they are going to hide the identity of the winner if the public asks for proof.
Mate, don't take him seriously. It's just a lame excuse. It's either he's a puppet or he's the one pocketing and embezzling people's money. I am not the one who's saying it directly but the pulse of our countrymen that I see in social media is mostly pinpointing him as the mastermind of this. Well, he's the general manager and can control everything on PCSO.

I already posted that they should just cover everything because the outlet where the winner bet will announce that the winner of that huge amount bet on their outlet but of course they have no way of knowing who is the winner.
Instead of covering the identity of the winner, they're using this as probably part of their tactic to swindle people's money.

This thing is happening because the culture is very different in a third-world country, compared to the 1st world country, in a country like the US you can claim your prize and show it on social media and mainstream media, and the winner can still walk in the street as if winning millions is just natural.

In a third-world country, you have to change your identity for fear of being targeted by bad elements or people with bad intentions and they are conniving with crooked cops
You said it right, the main reason is the protection and safety of their lives. But look at the rich businessmen in our country, they're public figures.

A winner from E-lotto online something that adds up the doubt from those bettors, now, that the senate is really eager to know who's that girl
and if there's a connection with her and those corrupt officials inside PCSO.
I just hope that this senate inquiry isn't just a show.

It will take some time as PCSO needs to reveal her real identity and one of the senator who wanted to know the truth is willing to hire private
detectives to know the connection if there's something behind.

A serious matter that being use for memes though it's important to know if that's for real or not.
Honestly, this should have been long overdue but because of the attention that these lottery winners(?) have taken through social media. I guess that the senate has taken a peek on it.
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Now the picture has become a laughing stock and the lady become a meme just look on these pictures.
This is what we are, we just make fun of some controversies even if they're serious because we can't do anything with it. The officials are actually the laughing stock on this matter but they're just trying to defend on it and the general manager even said that their agency(PCSO) isn't really good at editing and that's not a matter because they're just trying to hide and protect the actual winner. I am waiting for the senate inquiry if they're going to be firm on their investigation on this one and if there will be corrupt officials that will be caught on this unusual high prized lottery that can be part of the guinness.  Grin

A winner from E-lotto online something that adds up the doubt from those bettors, now, that the senate is really eager to know who's that girl
and if there's a connection with her and those corrupt officials inside PCSO.

It will take some time as PCSO needs to reveal her real identity and one of the senator who wanted to know the truth is willing to hire private
detectives to know the connection if there's something behind.

A serious matter that being use for memes though it's important to know if that's for real or not.
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Now the picture has become a laughing stock and the lady become a meme just look on these pictures.
This is what we are, we just make fun of some controversies even if they're serious because we can't do anything with it. The officials are actually the laughing stock on this matter but they're just trying to defend on it and the general manager even said that their agency(PCSO) isn't really good at editing and that's not a matter because they're just trying to hide and protect the actual winner. I am waiting for the senate inquiry if they're going to be firm on their investigation on this one and if there will be corrupt officials that will be caught on this unusual high prized lottery that can be part of the guinness.  Grin

The general manager's statement is very surprising, what do they mean that they are not good at editing they have millions of budgets, don't tell us that they don't have a decent editor or they don't have one, even a grade 4 student can do better on editing, the senate should continue with the investigation, there is a winner in another lottery and its a huge amount over $12 million, let's see how they are going to hide the identity of the winner if the public asks for proof.

I already posted that they should just cover everything because the outlet where the winner bet will announce that the winner of that huge amount bet on their outlet but of course they have no way of knowing who is the winner.

This thing is happening because the culture is very different in a third-world country, compared to the 1st world country, in a country like the US you can claim your prize and show it on social media and mainstream media, and the winner can still walk in the street as if winning millions is just natural.

In a third-world country, you have to change your identity for fear of being targeted by bad elements or people with bad intentions and they are conniving with crooked cops
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Now the picture has become a laughing stock and the lady become a meme just look on these pictures.
This is what we are, we just make fun of some controversies even if they're serious because we can't do anything with it. The officials are actually the laughing stock on this matter but they're just trying to defend on it and the general manager even said that their agency(PCSO) isn't really good at editing and that's not a matter because they're just trying to hide and protect the actual winner. I am waiting for the senate inquiry if they're going to be firm on their investigation on this one and if there will be corrupt officials that will be caught on this unusual high prized lottery that can be part of the guinness.  Grin
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As we can see in the picture, it appears to be just an edited version, casting doubt on whether there was a genuine winner or if corrupt officials inside are attempting to claim the victory using that picture as evidence.
If a company or lotto organizer had to go the extent of embarrassing themselves by using a fake picture of a winner, then it means that there is no winner in the first place because if there is a winner, and he wanted to remain anonymous to the public, there are better ways to go about it than faking this picture, where the editor who created the picture did a very bad job. It is very disgraceful, because the fake picture just exposed that the lotto is also a fake and should be avoided. In some places, if there is really justice, these lotto officials deserve to answer to the law.
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This is obviously edited photo as winner probably wanted to stay hidden. I personally understand it well, its not possible to win and be recognized in my opinion. People around you would directly start asking for money. I suppose its best to stay hidden. Also I don't think its a proof to corruption. Officers working for lottery wouldn't want to be involved in such situations because huge money is involved with lottery. Risky for their lives.

There are better ways to present the winner without resorting to taking a picture and editing the picture such as covering the face and the body of the winner, they don't even have to show anything because the outlet where the bettor made his bet will confirm it, now by editing the image people will think that everything is a setup the manager already apologized, its a lesson learned that they should not resort to editing because editing is very easy to expose because the netizens have a very good eye when it comes to editing because people are already uploading edited pictures on social media so they can easily tell if a picture is edited

Now the picture has become a laughing stock and the lady become a meme just look on these pictures.


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This is obviously edited photo as winner probably wanted to stay hidden. I personally understand it well, its not possible to win and be recognized in my opinion. People around you would directly start asking for money. I suppose its best to stay hidden. Also I don't think its a proof to corruption. Officers working for lottery wouldn't want to be involved in such situations because huge money is involved with lottery. Risky for their lives.

Not posting the picture is better than editing photos that would only make the agency suspicious. Philippines is tagged as one of the most corrupt countries in the world, so people would easily thought that there's something wrong with this, and that people inside have pocketed millions of winning already. I think this was already called in the senate, and investigation is happening now. Hopefully they'll dig deeper, like a lifestyle check of the employees especially the officers of the agency so they will be caught if they are doing something illegal.

We understand that they are protecting the identity of the winners that's why they should do some counter measure so they can assure the safety of the winner. But for doing those things like presenting a edited picture of the winners it creates a huge trouble to them since many are convince that they are just manipulated the result and the money is been corrupted by those officials. In this case where there answer regarding on the issue is not convincing I would advice to my friends there in Philippines not to gamble on their national lottery since I believe the system is rigged and they can't get any return since it will always in favor with those officials.

Glad there's a Senator  rise up the issue and now they are tackling this topic and hopefully Filipinos can get a proper resolution regarding on this case then they can show to people that they can still trust the lottery system in Philippines.
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What's your thought about that picture, is it real or edicted?

How about in your area? How reputable are your state-sponsored casinos?


Source : https://twitter.com/inquirerdotnet/status/1747758509381574663/photo/1

Well according to the news in this ARTICLE1, that the picture was intentionally edited poorly in order to conceal the identity of the winner. Additionally, parts of the edited picture was taken from random images across the internet (google images) in order to really cast doubts as to his/her identity.

Personally, I find it amusing that people are even talking about this. If I were the winner, I would definitely prefer my face to be poorly edited (like the one happened currently) in order to fully conceal my identity. Be reminded that even the clothes you wear and the color of your skin may be identifiable by your friends/relatives if they were posted and unedited.

Lastly, this is all for personal safety and security. There have been rumors about the genuineness and legitimacy of PCSO announcing winners with strange patterns in the past. While this may be reserved for another discussion, I fully believe that the person that won here is true and real.


1 https://www.cnnphilippines.com/news/2024/1/18/PCSO-viral-photo.html
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This is obviously edited photo as winner probably wanted to stay hidden. I personally understand it well, its not possible to win and be recognized in my opinion. People around you would directly start asking for money. I suppose its best to stay hidden. Also I don't think its a proof to corruption. Officers working for lottery wouldn't want to be involved in such situations because huge money is involved with lottery. Risky for their lives.

Not posting the picture is better than editing photos that would only make the agency suspicious. Philippines is tagged as one of the most corrupt countries in the world, so people would easily thought that there's something wrong with this, and that people inside have pocketed millions of winning already. I think this was already called in the senate, and investigation is happening now. Hopefully they'll dig deeper, like a lifestyle check of the employees especially the officers of the agency so they will be caught if they are doing something illegal.
They do think that it might be resolved out that kind of suspicions to those bettors but rather it did make things even more worst. Its better that they shouldnt have made out such exposure
or decision on letting the public do see that image. They would really be getting bashed and would really be having those tons of questions if this is some sort of joke or not.
They did really destroy out their credibility and just like on what most people been saying that there would really be some trust issues on the time that they would really be
making those bets into those lotteries on which there's no such thing about fairness and transparency on which we know that this is something crucial on this one.
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