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Quote from: 0t3p0t on January 18, 2024, 08:20:03 AM

I can even see comments from netizens says "PCSO has the winning streak" and that had me laughing for a couple of minutes in addition to some popular celebrities who also has funny comments regarding that "edited looking" post from the PCSO. It goes viral all over the Philippines and the PCSO is like a laughing stock on the social media right now. PCSO has been linked to some controversial wins even before including those 400+ winners of the jackpot prize and I don't really have any idea if they rigged it themselves or what. I am bettor as well that is why I am hesitant to place bets because of this issues.

Same here! even in the past, in the long time I've been watching the news, PCSO rarely announces the winner and identity of the winner, but recently it seems like the announcement of the winners became frequent which turns out to become suspicious. seems like they are waiting to increase the winning prize and then when the desired value is reached, they will suddenly announce a winner even though there really isn't one. There is not enough evidence to prove the fraud they are doing but it is too obvious, people in our country are not stupid enough to not notice the stupidity being done inside PCSO.

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Quote from: freedomgo on January 18, 2024, 03:46:59 AM

This picture below with the woman holding a check is the winner of "P43 million lotto 6/42 jackpot prize on Wednesday, Jan. 17.".

That's almost $800k if converted in USD.

As we can see in the picture, it appears to be just an edited version, casting doubt on whether there was a genuine winner or if corrupt officials inside are attempting to claim the victory using that picture as evidence.

What's your thought about that picture, is it real or edicted?

How about in your area? How reputable are your state-sponsored casinos?

This is really an edited image even if you zoom it out, those lines are way obvious even an experts would agree that it is. It was known that PCSO has lot of corrupt employees and I don't think that they'll be discouraged for this maybe they even steal more money than this one considering there has been lot of controversy before that even involved huge sum of money.

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Quote from: freedomgo on January 18, 2024, 03:46:59 AM

This picture below with the woman holding a check is the winner of "P43 million lotto 6/42 jackpot prize on Wednesday, Jan. 17.".

That's almost $800k if converted in USD.

As we can see in the picture, it appears to be just an edited version, casting doubt on whether there was a genuine winner or if corrupt officials inside are attempting to claim the victory using that picture as evidence.

What's your thought about that picture, is it real or edicted?

How about in your area? How reputable are your state-sponsored casinos?

Even a blind person could see that is an edited photo, why can't you figure it out? Even basic lotteries have many checks in place to prevent this kind of insider corruption and it's very easy to prevent. I personally don't have a problem with lottery winners covering their faces, but then again they should not be required to be publicly exposed in any form of media if they choose to stay anonymous. It's dumb to change the background however and surely if the lottery has been operating for a long enough time, they should have a room setup with white walls as a setting for such photos. Is it a requirement of entry into this lottery that an entrant must appear in photos if they win?

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on January 18, 2024, 07:43:28 AM

It was a big win from playing the lottery that the woman got. We don't need to know whether it is a real or a fake image, but of course the casino tries to hide the identity, including the face of the winner, from the public. This is to prevent crimes that will cause problems for the winners, which is something the casino has done well. They try to protect their winners, which is a normal thing the casino gives. And even if it's an edited image, that's fine, too, because the public doesn't need to know who the winner is. They can only keep buying lottery tickets and still hope to win the lottery game.

it is normal though to hide the identity of the winner. after all that is a large sum of money and she may be an easy target of fraudulent people out there. however, on the note of the image herself, it seems edited to me, even the skirt. so yeah, the image may be fake but who are we to judge, right? if that organisation is publishing such image to the public, maybe they have reasons to do so. so long they are not getting money from your pocket, all good to me.

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Quote from: SeaCoinCollector. on January 18, 2024, 06:39:00 AM

You can look at the picture in two different ways. It's possible that the editing is just to keep the winner's identity a secret to protect their privacy. However, some are worried that the manipulation could be a sign of fraudulent or corrupt behavior by the PCSO. If you want to know more about what's going on, you should study a lot or read news from reliable sources. To build processes that people can trust, they need to be open and honest.

It's really edited, we can see the big differences of both person, the contrast and hue is very obvious. it's funny because they didn't even hire a professional photo editor to make the fraud they are doing to the whole filipino people more believable.
there are speculations that come out even then, it is always announced that someone gets a jackpot prize but the truth is, there is none, it is also said that maybe only people in the government or employees of the PCSO claim the jackpot prize and it is divided among people who are complicit in the incident.

that is what i was seeing in the picture. the skirt of the woman alone gave it away. if you look it from afar, you can see the difference. however, we really don't know their intentions here. maybe, to hide the identity of the real winner or just pure corruption is going on. either way, we don't have proofs of such doings. so yeah, just let it pass, and maybe in time the truth will come out.

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Quote from: SeaCoinCollector. on January 18, 2024, 06:39:00 AM

You can look at the picture in two different ways. It's possible that the editing is just to keep the winner's identity a secret to protect their privacy. However, some are worried that the manipulation could be a sign of fraudulent or corrupt behavior by the PCSO. If you want to know more about what's going on, you should study a lot or read news from reliable sources. To build processes that people can trust, they need to be open and honest.

It's really edited, we can see the big differences of both person, the contrast and hue is very obvious. it's funny because they didn't even hire a professional photo editor to make the fraud they are doing to the whole filipino people more believable.
there are speculations that come out even then, it is always announced that someone gets a jackpot prize but the truth is, there is none, it is also said that maybe only people in the government or employees of the PCSO claim the jackpot prize and it is divided among people who are complicit in the incident.

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on January 18, 2024, 07:43:28 AM

It was a big win from playing the lottery that the woman got. We don't need to know whether it is a real or a fake image, but of course the casino tries to hide the identity, including the face of the winner, from the public. This is to prevent crimes that will cause problems for the winners, which is something the casino has done well. They try to protect their winners, which is a normal thing the casino gives. And even if it's an edited image, that's fine, too, because the public doesn't need to know who the winner is. They can only keep buying lottery tickets and still hope to win the lottery game.

But its never been that ethical that they would really be showing an edited image on which we know that we are talking millions on here in local currency on which
this is something that needing up that serious approach. It would really be neither that they would really be saying that due to security reasons the individual
did decide not to make some exposure rather than on trying out to show the public some edited picture just to show up some proofs?
You would really be getting lots of criticisms on the things that you've did.

Just like on what rest been saying that this picture or image is really that edited, so its normal that the public would be having that
kind of negative comments and words towards the situation.

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Yup, this was talked about for pretty long in our office earlier. Some were defending PCSO because they went ahead and did this to "defend" whoever won it, which is kind of reasonable I guess. But then again some argued that it was shady in the first place since there were winners, or multiple ones, almost every month. I don't really know how the math works here since I don't have the numbers to check but as an average joe I guess it's a reasonable suspicion.

Not to mention there are probably better ways to tell someone to hide their face instead of needing to edit it out. Well, it is the PH, Am not surprised with the amount of stuff going on in here in the first place.

But still those things are assumptions and there's no solid evidence but you cant really be able to stop people on sharing up their own negative views about on whats probably happening into those offices.

Lottery jackpots isnt something that could really be easily won considering on the odds or chances on which it is really that close to impossible, but impressively they do manage out on hitting up some winners in
5days -2 weeks time on which it is really just that too short i should say. This is why people who do make out those kind of betting on lotteries would already having those doubt that there is really
something happening behind and knowing that PH is a corrupt country then im not shocked those possibilities is there.

In regarding about the picture then it is really that clear to be fake. You could really be able to see those shades and contrast on which even a non professional
editor or a simple person could be able to distinguish on whats fake or real.

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Quote from: freedomgo on January 18, 2024, 03:46:59 AM

This picture below with the woman holding a check is the winner of "P43 million lotto 6/42 jackpot prize on Wednesday, Jan. 17.".

That's almost $800k if converted in USD.

As we can see in the picture, it appears to be just an edited version, casting doubt on whether there was a genuine winner or if corrupt officials inside are attempting to claim the victory using that picture as evidence.

What's your thought about that picture, is it real or edicted?

How about in your area? How reputable are your state-sponsored casinos?

Source : https://twitter.com/inquirerdotnet/status/1747758509381574663/photo/1

Lol don't get me started with the shenanigan they pulled off last year too where the winning numbers drawn were 3-6-9-12-15-18 and somehow cause a lot of our citizens here in the Philippines are so bought with the lies that the government kept telling them they all turned a blind eye about it.

It's worth noting that our state lottery has seen a massive upsurge in the number of winners with 1-3 players almost every week, a stark contrast to prior bets and raffles that sometimes take months to even land a winner. Not to mention our commander-in-chief being the literal son of the dirtiest politician in the history of the Philippines, who not only stole money but killed everyone who got in his way and declared Martial Law when the country's not buying anymore of his bullshit. So yeah I guess this is a case of the apple not falling far from the tree yet again. He only has a couple years in his term if I'm not mistaken, so it's not like he's going to stay for long in the seat at this point but at the same time we're still looking at a 4 more years of graft, corruption, and utter chaos in the government while the rest of the people in my country die of starvation and unemployment.

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That was so bad despite the good intention. Is it required to take a picture of the winner and post it on the lotto's social media? I don't think there is such requirement in lottery offices around the world so I don't understand the editing for privacy reasons. They could have taken the picture for documentation purposes and kept it private.

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Quote from: Oshosondy on January 18, 2024, 03:52:51 AM

We have seen how people that won huge amount of money like this that do not care about the public knowing the amount they won, this kind of winning/winners are celebrated in a way that the public will not have doubts. This picture is not looking real at all. It looks fake. I am expecting a cheque that is even bigger than what we are seeing on the picture. The cheque is not even clear.

Nice observations. It is definitely fake, lacking any merits. How can a winner of such huge amount be anonymous with no means of identification, not even the cheque is clear. Under normal climes, she is supposed to become an ambassador of the company, who will be available for advert and possibly part of their foundation. No reputable company will hand over a cheque of this amount to someone on mask. In my country, there is a certain amount you will win in some local casinos that you will be invited to their head office, offered the cheque and a car in front of cameras.

I'm yet to read anywhere that a winner of $800k in any casino is not known, so this is likely a cheap strategy by the company to deceive the public.

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Quote from: 0t3p0t on January 18, 2024, 08:20:03 AM

PCSO has been linked to some controversial wins even before including those 400+ winners of the jackpot prize and I don't really have any idea if they rigged it themselves or what. I am bettor as well that is why I am hesitant to place bets because of this issues.

I could also remember this news, it's quite unbelievable and with that incident it's already doubtful if they still have that honesty in them.

It's published in the news before.

More than 400 people won the lotto in the Philippines. Some people just can’t believe it

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A 236 million peso ($4 million) lottery jackpot shared among a record number of more than 400 winners has sparked questions in the Philippine Senate as skeptical lawmakers demand an inquiry into the results.

Mybe the Senate would really try to make a serious investigation on this as it's not anymore running in a normal way, it's pretty obvious that there's a syndicate inside just trying to steal the funds of our country. Or maybe the governmnet will think of ways to stop this, since it's not helping the poor, but only making them poor. If they want to raise more money, why not open the country for more foreign investors?

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I can even see comments from netizens says "PCSO has the winning streak" and that had me laughing for a couple of minutes in addition to some popular celebrities who also has funny comments regarding that "edited looking" post from the PCSO. It goes viral all over the Philippines and the PCSO is like a laughing stock on the social media right now. PCSO has been linked to some controversial wins even before including those 400+ winners of the jackpot prize and I don't really have any idea if they rigged it themselves or what. I am bettor as well that is why I am hesitant to place bets because of this issues.

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Quote from: Text on January 18, 2024, 07:53:50 AM

Confirmed! That Picture has been edited.

It was personally confirmed by the General Manager of PCSO, Mel Robles, that the picture of the winning woman in the 6/42 draw with a prize of P43,882,361.60 in December 2023 has been edited.
Robles admitted that they changed or edited the entire appearance of the woman so that her neighbors wouldn't recognize her. Robles even apologized for their "poor editing."

The PCSO should fire the guy who edited that picture it's poorly done they could have put on a long robe and used the facemask and a brimmed hat so when they take a picture they don't need to do editing, this editing creates an impression that they are fooling people that there is a winner
It's good that the Senate opened this up to clear the suspicious of the betting public, I don't think they will lose their reputation people will continue, the temptation that one picture can change your future

Here is the full story of that controversial picture and the hearing in the Senate
https://www.gmanetwork.com/news/topstories/content/894623/pcso-admits-poor-editing-of-viral-lotto-winner-photo/story/

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It looks like they were just cooking everything as if no one would gonna win the jackpot and everything was just their deceitful act to make the people believe that someone actually won it but in reality, it was not. Those people think they can fool their fellow countrymen when they are now exposed to countless technologies and software on the internet and they think a picture such as this one will gonna be ok for the rest of the people to believe that the jackpot has already got. People should really take heed of this because this is a sign that they are just wasting their money and they are not really getting that huge prize with this kind of scam.

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on January 18, 2024, 07:43:28 AM

It was a big win from playing the lottery that the woman got. We don't need to know whether it is a real or a fake image, but of course the casino tries to hide the identity, including the face of the winner, from the public. This is to prevent crimes that will cause problems for the winners, which is something the casino has done well. They try to protect their winners, which is a normal thing the casino gives. And even if it's an edited image, that's fine, too, because the public doesn't need to know who the winner is. They can only keep buying lottery tickets and still hope to win the lottery game.

Actually its important to know if its real or not but we don't have any capabilities to know the real situation happening there since they are very controversial regarding on each result shown.

I still remember the past result where there are 433 people win and that rise up some discussion about how rigged the lottery system in Philippines 433 people win in a lottery this one is really a record breaking in history of lottery in Philippines.

And now that? they release a seem edited pic of a girl claiming his winnings for sure there's a lot of people there still doubting about the result since to many people suspected that lottery result there is always manipulated in favor to those officials on that agency.

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Confirmed! That Picture has been edited.

It was personally confirmed by the General Manager of PCSO, Mel Robles, that the picture of the winning woman in the 6/42 draw with a prize of P43,882,361.60 in December 2023 has been edited.
Robles admitted that they changed or edited the entire appearance of the woman so that her neighbors wouldn't recognize her. Robles even apologized for their "poor editing."

Because of this, suspicions among netizens have grown stronger that the PCSO fabricated the winner in the said draw they posted.

Courtesy | RTIA

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Quote from: freedomgo on January 18, 2024, 03:46:59 AM

This picture below with the woman holding a check is the winner of "P43 million lotto 6/42 jackpot prize on Wednesday, Jan. 17.".

That's almost $800k if converted in USD.

As we can see in the picture, it appears to be just an edited version, casting doubt on whether there was a genuine winner or if corrupt officials inside are attempting to claim the victory using that picture as evidence.

What's your thought about that picture, is it real or edicted?

The picture is viral and the netizens are tagging the administrator of PCSO the lotto governing body, but this is not something new to the lottery system in the Philippines has been questioned many times but so far they have maintained its reputation.

The netizens are quick to check for the flaws because we have a lot of coders and online designers who are betting in the lottery, it looks malicious but like what others have mentioned they intentionally edited it because they want to hide the identity of the winners. After all, it's different in the Philippines once people know you are a lotto winner people will envy you and you may even become a target of bad elements or the lotto ask that it be edited to protect his identity.

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How about in your area? How reputable are your state-sponsored casinos?

I don't think people will lose interest in betting in the lottery because of this issue, majority of the people believe the lotto ticket is their ticket to get out of poverty and change their destiny, people will eventually forget this and will still bet especially if the prize becomes huge.

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It was a big win from playing the lottery that the woman got. We don't need to know whether it is a real or a fake image, but of course the casino tries to hide the identity, including the face of the winner, from the public. This is to prevent crimes that will cause problems for the winners, which is something the casino has done well. They try to protect their winners, which is a normal thing the casino gives. And even if it's an edited image, that's fine, too, because the public doesn't need to know who the winner is. They can only keep buying lottery tickets and still hope to win the lottery game.

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Quote from: freedomgo on January 18, 2024, 03:46:59 AM

What's your thought about that picture, is it real or edicted?

What is the motive behind this. This is the question that I ask myself as I scrutinize the picture. Even a "blind" person can tell that the image is fake. I know so people would fall for this foolery but they cannot fool everyone. Government officials are supposed to exemplify the highest form of discipline, transparency and accountability. Where they can't what image are they portraying to the public as well as scammers who would pick up the cue from them. I will keep my notifications on with the hopes that in a few day the officials of PCSO Lotto will publish a press release refuting the picture or maybe an excuse that they were hacked and the hackers uploaded that image to deceive the public.

Quote from: freedomgo on January 18, 2024, 03:46:59 AM

How about in your area? How reputable are your state-sponsored casinos?

In the region I stay in, state-sponsored casinos are highly regulated and they will be shutdown in a heartbeat with their operators arrested and charged to court by the federal agencies with they try to spin some sort of bullshit like this.

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Given her security and private life, I believe it makes sense that they edit the PCSO lottery winner. Not everyone wanted to be exposed to receiving such a large amount of money, where she might receive threats or be the target of robbers with ill intentions.

Given that human nature is to desire more and only keep what they wish to keep, corruption in this type of money-related activity is possible. However, there is evidence that there are PCSO lottery winners as well. Some of these winners wanted to be interviewed or to appear on television to talk about how lucky they are and what challenges they have faced in life, but one day their circumstances changed as a result of their lottery win, which allowed them to survive and pursue their goals. I have seen some of these winners go on to start successful businesses because they managed their money better. But some lottery winners may have also preferred to keep their identities a secret, maybe out of concern that others might question them.

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