Topic: The pirate ponzi fiasco - page 2. (Read 10207 times)
I disagree with your faith in mobs.
The guy hasn't confirmed his identity. most of this makes no sense.
the people on the forum seem pretty certain of his identity, even going so far as to call previous employers.. I'd say thats enough info to send him a certified letter.
The guy hasn't confirmed his identity. most of this makes no sense.
What are your thoughts about Pirate if he pays back some accounts and not other. Like what if he claims he needs a list of information about people before he sends coins? Would that be scamming?
That's scamming.
"Hey, I would love to pay you back, but first you need to give me your credit card number, expiry date, and mother's maiden name."
He asked for three pieces of information: forum/irc nick, address, balance. Everything else is just fud.
Still what pirate is really asking for is illegal and scamming. :/ This wont end well.
Please tell me how its illegal for him to ask for that.
I don't know about illegal, but it's unethical. His obligations are to the pass-through operators. Not the individual customers of those operators.
My lawyer said don't do it. And my lawyer want to talk to Pirates. Pirate wont give that info up
Then send him a certified letter. Its not like he wasn't dox'd all over the forums.
What are your thoughts about Pirate if he pays back some accounts and not other. Like what if he claims he needs a list of information about people before he sends coins? Would that be scamming?
That's scamming.
"Hey, I would love to pay you back, but first you need to give me your credit card number, expiry date, and mother's maiden name."
He asked for three pieces of information: forum/irc nick, address, balance. Everything else is just fud.
Still what pirate is really asking for is illegal and scamming. :/ This wont end well.
Please tell me how its illegal for him to ask for that.
I don't know about illegal, but it's unethical. His obligations are to the pass-through operators. Not the individual customers of those operators.
Trust no one. And don't communicate here. That's what I gathered so far. Posts, PMs and Emails are all open and readable, and someone can always sniff your packets or something. Encryption is important.
And you don't need to answer anything, but you might not get what you want if you don't answer.
I don't even know what happened. Just that everyone is losing sleep over bitcoins. heheh.
And you don't need to answer anything, but you might not get what you want if you don't answer.
I don't even know what happened. Just that everyone is losing sleep over bitcoins. heheh.
What are your thoughts about Pirate if he pays back some accounts and not other. Like what if he claims he needs a list of information about people before he sends coins? Would that be scamming?
That's scamming.
"Hey, I would love to pay you back, but first you need to give me your credit card number, expiry date, and mother's maiden name."
He asked for three pieces of information: forum/irc nick, address, balance. Everything else is just fud.
Still what pirate is really asking for is illegal and scamming. :/ This wont end well.
Please tell me how its illegal for him to ask for that.
What are your thoughts about Pirate if he pays back some accounts and not other. Like what if he claims he needs a list of information about people before he sends coins? Would that be scamming?
That's scamming.
"Hey, I would love to pay you back, but first you need to give me your credit card number, expiry date, and mother's maiden name."
He asked for three pieces of information: forum/irc nick, address, balance. Everything else is just fud.
What are your thoughts about Pirate if he pays back some accounts and not other. Like what if he claims he needs a list of information about people before he sends coins? Would that be scamming?
That's scamming.
"Hey, I would love to pay you back, but first you need to give me your credit card number, expiry date, and mother's maiden name."
What are your thoughts about Pirate if he pays back some accounts and not other. Like what if he claims he needs a list of information about people before he sends coins? Would that be scamming?
That's scamming.
Legality aside, decency would suggest you should put a notice on the "private message" page stating that the messages are not private and may be read by moderators.
They're "personal messages", not "private messages".
I think it's obvious that the administrators of a site will check PMs when necessary, but I added a note to the page.
Looks good: Note: PM privacy is not guaranteed. Encrypt sensitive messages.
Perfect!
Looks good: Note: PM privacy is not guaranteed. Encrypt sensitive messages.
Legality aside, decency would suggest you should put a notice on the "private message" page stating that the messages are not private and may be read by moderators.
They're "personal messages", not "private messages".
I think it's obvious that the administrators of a site will check PMs when necessary, but I added a note to the page.
I think I just have a different set of security assumptions than you do.
It is not about security, it is about trust.
Luckily, being a member is voluntary and no one forces anyone to join and sent PMs.
This is true, if I know I am agreeing to this.
Even if you trust theymos, there are 3 other admins, the servers are hosted by Mt Gox, and there's always the possibility of hackers and subpoenas which trust won't save you from. Posting private information (especially if it could incriminate certain people, since we're talking about Pirate that's possible) in plaintext on a forum, pm or not, is asinine. If you value your privacy that much you should take steps to ensure it yourself.
I think I just have a different set of security assumptions than you do.
It is not about security, it is about trust.
Security is about trust. Namely, who to trust. And while you may trust the recipient of your message, you never trust the courier.
I think I just have a different set of security assumptions than you do.
It is not about security, it is about trust.
Luckily, being a member is voluntary and no one forces anyone to join and sent PMs.
This is true, if I know I am agreeing to this.
+1 Pirate is a hero.
Exactly, right ?
Can I honestly blame him for trying to grow my measly existing 2600+ BTC in my BTCST account, into a Million, over time ?
He's a HERO not a SCAMMER.
All hail Pirate!
As I pointed out earlier in the thread, any electronic communication that isn't encrypted will be read by a 3rd party at some point. Assuming otherwise is like thinking the message on the postcard you sent Grandma is private, too.
There is a difference between avoiding unauthorized interception of traffic and an ongoing policy of authorized interception. The former you assume to happen, the latter should be very clearly made known.
Luckily, being a member is voluntary and no one forces anyone to join and sent PMs.
As I pointed out earlier in the thread, any electronic communication that isn't encrypted will be read by a 3rd party at some point. Assuming otherwise is like thinking the message on the postcard you sent Grandma is private, too.
There is a difference between avoiding unauthorized interception of traffic and an ongoing policy of authorized interception. The former you assume to happen, the latter should be very clearly made known.
I think I just have a different set of security assumptions than you do.
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