Topic: The Reality of Masternode Centralization - page 6. (Read 7919 times)

These ad hominem attacks are getting ridiculous, you're not even taking the time to respond to the original post. Nowhere is stated that you, as a Monero user, are obligated to use MyMonero, it's basically the same as blockchain.info. Does blockchain.info make Bitcoin centralized?

Oh and PS, the official CLI wallet does work, but I guess you can't be bothered to try.

So what?  Fluffypony can still *see* all the transactions, know what is moving around, know when a pump or dump is coming, take the site offline to stop people withdrawing, it gives Monero core team / his ISP / the NSA full *acccess* to Monero for all intents and purposes.  And he keeps any information on MyMonero usage, or even the MyMonero source code, to himself.  And he has *tried this before* on Vertcoin, and is *trying it again* with Paybee.com

MyMonero.com is 100% centralized and undermines all Monero's claims of being anonymous / untraceable - it's a fucking centralized payment website for a coin they are marketing as 'untraceable' lol.  And you defend that and say Dash is centralized because it works with users on the official wallet in different countries, like Bitcoin

just more alternate reality Monero bullshit....keep going Trollero.

From the MyMonero.com website....
Or if you want to read for yourself https://mymonero.com/#/terms Chapter 4

Trollero™ strikes again  

Get ready for 100 pages of "Dash is a scam" Trollero pumping from:

Smooth - Epic-troll / slightly unhinged Monero core "dev" with 1000s of attack-Dash posts to his name.  Was ranked the 4th biggest troll on the Dash thread by post count.  Recently took over Monero competitor AEON.

Fluffyponzay - Monero lead "dev".  Joined Monero after trying to scam USD 200,000 from Vertcoin investors (aka 20% of their market cap) to "develop" his Vertpay.com website.  Took control of Monero and setup MyMonero.com, centralized Monero web wallet.  Likes to go offline and gives Monero core team / their ISP / NSA acccess to majority of Monero's "anonymous" transactions / users from one handy spot.  And because Monero official wallet doesn't work, it's MyMonero all the way.  Oh also trying to make his 3rd centralized payment site PayBee.com...Lots more but can't be bothered.

Harrison Ford aka Generalize this - he made this thread already.  (I like that he actually did some research, even though I think it's obviously an idiotic conclusion to say wallets hosted around the world in different countries running as masternodes are centralized, but kudos to Generalize for once )

G2M - Chronic Monero troll

Icebreaker - Extremely unhinged head Monero troll aka Eduardo de Castro the Hashfast scammer.  Everyone knows him so no introduction needed.

GTO911 - known cat fiddler.  Do not let this person near your family or the family pet.

I will tick off the list as they appear.

If you are just starting this thread, make your life easier and just buy Monero..  They will probably go away if you just give them your BTC.  Wait for them to dump on the dumber Monero users who don't get it's a clone of something else that has been stalling for 14 months already, then BCT can be a more pleasant experience for all of us seeking innovation / decentralized crypto..

Things to watch out for:

1. Trollero users repeating the same thing over and over again, regardless of what arguments, reason or logic are put in front of them.

2. All replies to Trollero users must have any text offensive to Monero removed from them.  Sorry, you're text was just Trolleroed™

3. All Trollero replies to non-believers must start with "are you stupid?" and maintain the fact that everyone is stupid who doesn't "get" Monero (not any other Cryptonote clone though, even the ones with active developers and GUIs - Monero is special and the next bitcoin - FACT.

4. Lots of talk of 10,000 XMR pizzas - like we never heard it before..

5. Anything competing with Monero but not Monero itself is a centralized scam, including any exchange or website that even mentions them, period.

Can't think of anymore right now...oh yeh Poloniex is 100% trustworthy.  The fact that 95% of Trollero volume goes there whilst people on any other exchange like Bittrex or BTC38 won't touch a Trollero with a 10 foot poll means nothing.  And Dash price is fake even though volume is spread across all major exchanges.

Anyway...have fun

cheers

For most coins, nodes being hosted on a corporate server isn't a big deal, but when their advertised anonymity depends on those nodes, it's a massive security breach waiting to happen.

Here's a list of active Dash masternodes, the hosting company (or privately held node), and their address:

Accelerated IT servers: Frankfurt Germany: 95
Amazon USA: 44
Asmunda Frankfurt Germany: 150
Bhost ltd: England/Amsterdam: 3
Choopa, NJ, USA: 162
City Network Hosting Stockholm Sweden: 4
CJSR Russia: 1
ColoCrossing NY USA: 14
Comcast PA USA: 3
Crisis Solutions LLC USA: 7
Deutsche Telekom Germany: 1
Digital Ocean NY  USA: 75
DNA Oy  Finland: 4
Earthnet CO USA: 1
Evanzo ECom Germany: 1
Fevvo Inc CT USA: 11
Hetzner Online Germany: 2
Hostinger Intl. Cyprus: 1
HostUs USA: 1
IDC*China or MA USA: 10
Internet Assigned Numbers: 3
Microsoft USA: 3
MyLoc Managed Dusseldorf Germany: 104
Neterra Bulgaria: 1
NodeServ LLC FL USA: 32
Online SAS France: 213
PP KOM i TEX Ukraine: 1
Private Layer Inc Zurich Switzerland: 110
QHoster Ltd  Bulgaria: 96
QuadraNet CA USA: 4
QuickPacket Llc GA USA: 4
RackSpace Hosting TX USA: 2
Rogers Cable Com Canada: 3
Serverius Netherlands: 1
TDC A/S Denmark: 1
Telecom3Sverige AB Sweden: 1
Time Warner USA: 1
UAB Technoloigu Lithuania: 4
VideoTron Telecom Lte Canada: 1

--Of the 1175 active nodes I only found 4 that could be considered run on privately held nodes (3 Internet Assigned Numbers and 1 PP KOM i TEX). The other 1171 were listed under hosting companies.

By country:

Germany: 352 (29.95%)

Accelerated IT servers: Frankfurt Germany: 95
Asmunda Frankfurt Germany: 150
Deutsche Telekom Germany: 1
Hetzner Online Germany: 2
MyLoc Managed Dusseldorf Germany: 104

USA: 364 (30.97%)

Amazon USA: 44
Choopa, NJ, USA: 162
ColoCrossing NY USA: 14
Comcast PA USA: 3
Crisis Solutions LLC USA: 7
Digital Ocean NY  USA: 75
Earthnet CO USA: 1
Fevvo Inc CT USA: 11
HostUs USA: 1
Microsoft USA: 3
NodeServ LLC FL USA: 32
QuadraNet CA USA: 4
QuickPacket Llc GA USA: 4
RackSpace Hosting TX USA: 2
Time Warner USA: 1

France: 213 (18.12%)

Online SAS France: 213

Switzerland: 110 (9.36%)

Private Layer Inc Zurich Switzerland: 110

Bulgaria: 97 (8.25%)

Neterra Bulgaria: 1
QHoster Ltd  Bulgaria: 96

Other: 38 (3.23%)

Bhost ltd: Englad/Amsterdam: 3
City Network Hosting Stockholm Sweden: 4
CJSR Russia: 1
DNA Oy  Finland: 4
Hostinger Intl. Cyprus: 1
IDC*China: 10
Internet Assigned Numbers: 3
PP KOM i TEX Ukraine: 1
Rogers Cable Com Canada: 3
Serverius Netherlands: 1
TDC A/S Denmark: 1
Telecom3Sverige AB Sweden: 1
UAB Technoloigu Lithuania: 4
VideoTron Telecom Lte Canada: 1

--Over 95% of the masternodes are on servers owned by companies located in 5 countries. If this coin ever reached the market cap levels of Bitcoin or threatened global monetary supply, it would certainly gain the inquisitiveness of LEA worldwide who would likely share data in order to prosecute criminals or those that threatened their monopoly of wealth. This shouldn't be made this easy. This is further proof that cryptosystems that rely on users to follow best practices are relying on failure.

*IDC China telecommunications (subsidiary of US company or a Chinese company) listed and counted as China/Other.

Figures gathered 6/1/15 https://www.dashnodes.com/index/masternodes/?sorts%5Bisp%5D=1&perPage=100