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legendary
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October 07, 2021, 08:56:37 AM
#50

hahahaha... Take this shit away man, you are only getting yourself more humiliated and believing that this man is Satoshi leads to no good.
More than 100 addresses from his "tulip trust" signed that he is not satoshi what else you need?
Just quit with the Off Topic.

This guy is way more "satoshi" than CSW


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October 07, 2021, 07:38:31 AM
#49
legendary
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Goodnight, o_e_l_e_o 🌹
October 05, 2021, 03:34:23 PM
#48
I used to think Satoshi invented this forum, that he invented the forum to help discuss the promotion of the token and community. If he did, who got the forum administration employed ? and if he was not the one, then there was a link to him along the line of transferring the forum's leadership. He is not actually anonymous, am sure some people or organisation or government are hiding him
I think theymos probably knows satoshi's identity. Although it's quite easy to remain anonymous on the internet so it might not be true.

Satoshi originally published bitcoincore on sourceforge and there was a forum there but the forum was moved here (for obvious reasons). Theymos took over control of the forum after satoshi gave him ownership privileges. I think sirius was also quite heavily involved in the forum at the start (not sure where badbear came into the equation though - the old admin here).

Also, anyone know where the forum was before it got moved to amazon aws?

I have not had so much personal interest about Satoshi. I am also very new in the forum to know how things had been before now and how they are now.
But I am personally convinced that Satoshi has not moved on, he is actively involved in Bitcoin things and also still present in the forum.
Someone can be 100% anonymous in the internet and not in real life.

I use myself for instance;
I am few months old in the forum and I am just a mere Full member. But even if I want to quit bitcointalk today, I will never hand my account over to an unknown person. I'll rather give a friend who is knowledgeable in the forum, to be sure that my account won't turn spam or red tagged before I could return.
Compare it to a whole forum. Satoshi should know Theymos identity to an extent, vice versa before the hand over.
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October 02, 2021, 12:47:09 AM
#47
Tor is pretty much expected, don't expect anything less from a man (I guess) who created BTC, don't think ip addresses would be helpful. But I'm curious about PMs. Theymos should reveal it before this information is gone with him.
legendary
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September 28, 2021, 08:32:44 AM
#46
I can understand clueless noobs necro bumping this thread but there is a bunch of presumably literate users here suddenly feeling they have something to say on a 3-year-old topic... are you all on fucking drugs or what's going on here.

Most likely signature campaign participants getting their weekly/monthly posts in. I don’t know why anybody would want Satoshi to be somewhat doxed. It wouldn’t do any good for anybody.
legendary
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September 28, 2021, 05:13:41 AM
#45
This thread should probably be locked. Theymos isn't going to do that. Private messages are and should remain private. That goes without saying. If satoshi or anyone else wanted his private correspondences to be read by everyone, he would have posted them out in the open. He didn't. Doing things like that would set the forum back.

I would like to know who satoshi is as well, but because I am curious. Not because I want to mess with him, doxx him or interfere with his life choice.
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September 28, 2021, 12:11:26 AM
#44
I've rethought this, and I won't be releasing the PMs in 2021. <>
I am concerned about the privacy of those who communicated with him. For example, kiba once said <>
Would you consider releasing satoshi's PMs with the sender/recipient anonymized? For example, if kiba exchanged PMs with satoshi, you could change "kiba" to a random handle. It would not necessarily need to be a random string in order to allow for readability. You could also redact things such as names, addresses, bitcoin addresses, email addresses and similar. When discussing amounts of coin an individual has, you could redact the specific amounts. You could also only release PMs that were received by satoshi up to x time after he last logged into his account, as I am sure that a lot of crazy things have been sent to satoshi since he left the forum.

If it's PM between 2 regular/unknown users which released for historical purpose, it's good enough. But since it's PM between Satoshi and other user who could be targeted, there are few ways to identify the other user, such as
1. Date/Time of the PM.
2. Writing style.
3. Typo which rarely occurred (such as "covfefe").
I don't think any of those would necessarily identify a user. At least not with any amount of certainty. Also, the reason why someone might be targeted is not that they were talking with satoshi, it would be because someone might be able to infer how much coin they have, and the redactions I proposed should remove that risk.

I think if Satoshi never requested any of his PMs to become public ever after a certain amount of time, or god forbid his IP history, then wipe them all..
IIRC, theymos has said in the past that satoshi always used tor to access the forum. So any IP logs would be from what was at the time tor exit nodes.
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September 27, 2021, 09:21:03 PM
#43
I used to be really interested in finding out who Satoshi was as a person (not really doxing) and if he was still around and if he would come back..

Not so much anymore..

I think if Satoshi never requested any of his PMs to become public ever after a certain amount of time, or god forbid his IP history, then wipe them all..

Wipe em like the dust cloth Hillary used on her servers..
(They acted like those free programs were such expensive high tech)..

Rewrite those drives 50 times over with the spammers threads you can find on this forum.. Destroy it..

Unless you, theymos, think it is really historically significant, then just wipe it..

If not, monetize it..
When you feel it is enough time to release it, sell it to the highest bidder on a 1 year, 2 year, 5 year contract, that you will give it to them NOW, but hold off making it public for a set amount of time, to continue ensuring the continuance of his forum..

Whoever wants it so bad may be out for no good, but make them pay big to put towards good..

I think someone would pay $1mm+ to have access to this information a few years in advance of its public release, and if it is inconsequential anyway, take their money..

Long live Bitcoin and internet freedom!
Whatever suits these goals best..
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September 27, 2021, 08:31:41 PM
#42
What if a user wants to come back? Whether this is Satoshi or someone else. I hate when email providers deactivate your account and don't allow you to reactivate it and delete all your data. That's silly to me when it literally takes up kbs in their database. I've lost some important information before because of this.

I'm still disappointed with Yahoo about my deleted geocities websites...

I miss those under construction signs and the fire gifs.
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September 27, 2021, 03:42:10 AM
#41
What I don’t quite understand is, does Satoshi Nakamoto really matter so much? People who are curious about Satoshi Nakamoto may be more concerned about the bitcoins in Satoshi Nakamoto's wallet. For a decentralized system, the great Satoshi Nakamoto has achieved decentralization from himself. Maybe Satoshi Nakamoto is a person who travels from the future or an alien, hhhhh.
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September 27, 2021, 12:30:10 AM
#40
Nobody could have predicted where bitcoin would go but I believe he did say something along the lines of (and I'm colossally paraphrasing here): In ten years time either nobody will be using it or everybody will be.
The actual quote is: "I'm sure that in 20 years there will either be very large transaction volume or no volume." -- Satoshi
The above is per what is on one of the factoids that are displayed in an ad slot in 10% of page views of people that display ads.

Even if bitcoin did not have the success that it did in 2012, there are plenty of reasons why governments would have frowned upon those who had created it, as in 2012 it allowed people to get around AML and tax rules. Obviously, now in 2021, bitcoin is much more successful than it was in 2012, and the success of bitcoin in 2021 is probably a once in a multi-lifetime event.

I've rethought this, and I won't be releasing the PMs in 2021. <>
I am concerned about the privacy of those who communicated with him. For example, kiba once said <>
Would you consider releasing satoshi's PMs with the sender/recipient anonymized? For example, if kiba exchanged PMs with satoshi, you could change "kiba" to a random handle. It would not necessarily need to be a random string in order to allow for readability. You could also redact things such as names, addresses, bitcoin addresses, email addresses and similar. When discussing amounts of coin an individual has, you could redact the specific amounts. You could also only release PMs that were received by satoshi up to x time after he last logged into his account, as I am sure that a lot of crazy things have been sent to satoshi since he left the forum.
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September 26, 2021, 08:01:09 PM
#39
theymos is a man that changes his tune over time quite frequently based on the circumstances at the moment. A pre-2016 theymos quote is basically irrelevant today in most cases. A major change in thinking happened along the way and I think it’s highly unlikely theymos will release the information that he stated he would.
legendary
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December 12, 2018, 04:16:07 PM
#38
I think if the gov't wanted to read Satoshi's PMs they would have just hacked them out of BTCT and Theymos would never know/have known (unless they wanted him to).
I’ve been going over @xtraelv’s post Bitcointalk history of hacks and vandalism, wondering if the subject PMs could have been accessed on any of the known 2011, 2013 or 2015 Bitcointalk hacks. In the referenced post, @theymos mentions that the attacker may have accessed PMs (in general) during the 2011 and 2013 attacks (during the 2015 attack he indicated that it was unlikely). Someone may (or may not) have the PMs without knowing what he has in his hands ...


It was grateful my hacker did not read my pm's I never put any info in there now that is valuable.
But for sure those PM's would be super valuable and of interest to many.

I am glad Theymos has decided not to reveal anything about satoshi but  if I am honest I would have liked to have read the pms, and would be hard to resist for myself just a quick glance over satoshis pm's if I was admin.
legendary
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December 12, 2018, 02:26:49 PM
#37
I think if the gov't wanted to read Satoshi's PMs they would have just hacked them out of BTCT and Theymos would never know/have known (unless they wanted him to).
I’ve been going over @xtraelv’s post Bitcointalk history of hacks and vandalism, wondering if the subject PMs could have been accessed on any of the known 2011, 2013 or 2015 Bitcointalk hacks. In the referenced post, @theymos mentions that the attacker may have accessed PMs (in general) during the 2011 and 2013 attacks (during the 2015 attack he indicated that it was unlikely). Someone may (or may not) have the PMs without knowing what he has in his hands ...
legendary
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December 12, 2018, 12:44:59 PM
#36
Satoshi BTC program Eliminated Banks,

Looked out the window, no Starbucks, the ING branch is still there with its dam orange and blue lights
Slowly this has turned into another hunt for Satoshi topic with the usual "trust me I know who he is" proofs.

I can think of a few reasons, for example: "Tell us where your private keys are or you'll be in this hole for the rest of your life".
Satoshi's last posts didn't look like someone who was going to leave the forum. There's a chance he's dead, he could have been hit in traffic.

I think the chances for that happening when he left are slim but the chances that something really bad happened to him after that are far greater. After all, almost 10 years have passed and that's a lot, with that many accidents, crimes,  health problems and many others happening all over the place and not excluding he might have been in his 40s or 50s...who knows.

But, as far as the OP was concerned, the issue is solved....till somebody hacks theymos's mail Tongue

legendary
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December 12, 2018, 12:41:45 PM
#35
(I still haven't read the PMs, BTW; maybe they're all really boring.)

you dont have to read them or make them public. but i think you should take care and not lose them.
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December 12, 2018, 12:21:39 PM
#34
The true optimist Cheesy Now you know, if you're going to create a world-changing cryptocurrency: don't carpool.

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the white paper refers to a we.
That seems to be quite common in scientific papers.

You can’t say you didn’t picture the scene.
Satoshi[0] I have got core running have you all got it working
Satoshi[1:5] Yes!
Satoshi[4] I’m hungry, fancy a (whatever satoshi likes: ice cream, chocolate cake, coffee)
(All get in a car)
(Too hyped from getting bitcoin core to work, the driver floors it and forgets the work on the road ahead)...
[they all survive obviously - I don’t want to be added to any registers]




Undergrads make the discoveries in science and their funding supplier or funding getter normally take the credit for it. It’s not malpractice it normally counts towards 1/14th of the undergrads degree...
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December 12, 2018, 07:06:36 AM
#33
Satoshi was Killed By the Government or was so in fear for his life that he went into Hiding.

David Chaum creator of Digicash and Ecash wrote an article in 1985 and  and the Title says it all - SECURITY WITHOUT IDENTIFICATION: TRANSACTION SYSTEMS TO MAKE BIG BROTHER OBSOLETE

Satoshi BTC program Eliminated Banks,Governments and Rich Elites Which made him more of a target to the financial system of the world. His program put the People back in control of their own finances.

When you fuck with the powers and finances of the Worlds Governments you are bound to have an "accident" along the way.
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December 12, 2018, 06:21:43 AM
#32
They could all have been in a car though?
The true optimist Cheesy Now you know, if you're going to create a world-changing cryptocurrency: don't carpool.

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the white paper refers to a we.
That seems to be quite common in scientific papers.
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December 12, 2018, 05:44:24 AM
#31
I've rethought this, and I won't be releasing the PMs in 2021.
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I do think that there could be historically-relevant info in there, so maybe if Bitcoin has taken over the world in like 50 years and historians are clamoring to know more about its history, I or my successors could be convinced to revisit the issue.
So I can start PMing my secrets to satoshi Cheesy

Why would you think some government would be hiding him and why would they be doing that?
I can think of a few reasons, for example: "Tell us where your private keys are or you'll be in this hole for the rest of your life".
Satoshi's last posts didn't look like someone who was going to leave the forum. There's a chance he's dead, he could have been hit in traffic. He could also be in jail.
On the other hand, if "Satoshi" was not just one person, but a group of people, it's much less likely they all had accidents. That means there was a reason to disappear into hiding.

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I think he just took sufficient steps to remain anonymous. Probably not that difficult to do if it's something you're conscious of before the get-go. Most of us here after all are mostly anonymous but with a few additional steps most people could leave little trace of things that could be tied back to them.
I'm more curious why satoshi was hiding his identity from the start: did he know how big Bitcoin would get?
I don't think it's common for programmers to take measures to protect their privacy when they post a beta on SourceForge.

They could all have been in a car though? Then the team of satoshi could be taken out in one instant. It would have to have been someone who was known to have sufficient knowledge in hashcoins and data mining/hashing algorithms (although let’s assume they’re still alive). I’m starting to wonder how many people satoshi was, in his emails to hal and other people he always seems like he’s just one Pierson but the white paper refers to a we. I know at least one of the known bitcoin devs is said to look like they’ve co authored that white paper though.
He created something that’s sort of anti-bank anti-government. It’s orobably the reason why they wanted to remain anonymous.

@InvoKing, maybe he didn’t want to keep his bitcoins but needed to give the network a bit of a kick-start.
There are a lot of extremists against governments and central banks so he might have just been giving them a tool they could use to continue. Maybe he came back after the premise and is gosling 50 bitcoins now to this day, he’ll still make a nice amount of profit for his work...
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