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Quote from: coolcoinz on December 01, 2024, 03:13:46 PM

In a normal situation, when a person deals with a legit company, breaking a rule results in the loss of any profit and account closure, but should not result in the business taking all your money.
A legit casino should always return the deposit, or what's left of it and ban the client, but many casinos steal deposits claiming that after the user was discovered breaking the ToS, they don't want anything to do with him.

In this case, the participant who violated the rules of the casino does not risk anything and in case of a ban, he receives all his money and registers again from another VPN. This way it will be repeated continuously. And so that this does not happen with impunity, the casino fines the participant who violates the rules by blocking his deposit.

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Quote from: Russlenat on December 01, 2024, 07:16:27 AM

I know we all want to gamble, and some of us live in countries where gambling is completely illegal, which means there are no online casinos offering games locally. So, we turn to global casinos that don’t require KYC. Even though we see in the TOS that our country is restricted, we still keep going because they don’t block us. But then, as we get hooked on the casino, we start depositing big money to win big. Suddenly, their system flags us for accessing the casino from a restricted country, and our funds get frozen. That’s something I’ve read from many members on scam accusation boards. They think the casino is okay with it, but it’s not.

Sometimes its okay not to try to outsmart the system as you may not be lucky with such act all the time but some gamblers fail to understand this and end up trying so hard to see their way through either the right path or the other path, i always do read and even advise others to do same, when ever you are signing up on a casino make sure to check for your country eligibility and also make sure to understand the terms and other conditions around using such casinos.

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Quote from: AbuBhakar on December 01, 2024, 07:35:52 AM

For starters, Casino should automatically geo block the IP of the country that belongs to the restricted country list in their ToS. That is the legal way to implement country restrictions and not through allowing access of casino using their regular IP since not all user especially newbie doesn’t read the ToS.

Logically, newbie will think they are allowed to play if they can access the casino since some casino automatically block users that using restricted country IP.

On the hand, User should always read the TOS especially if they will deposit already huge amount to check everything about the legality.

This creates a problem for expats (people who are living in a country that's restricted, but are citizens of unrestricted country). Population of United Arab Emirates for example is 88% of expats. And 15.3% of the US population is also expats. These aren't small numbers to be ignored. Especially by casinos that want all the possible customers.

And just to be clear, these expats can legally play in casinos if they are citizens of unrestricted countries. Sure, they could use VPN, but many places even forbit VPNs and if they get caught playing with IP from VPN provider, they are in way bigger trouble, then they would be just by logging from unrestricted country.

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Quote from: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on December 01, 2024, 09:47:01 AM

Well, before a gambler decides to use VPN to bypass the restrictions of casinos in their country, they should also be willing to accept any consequence that is attached to their actions. Even they should to play smart by carry out such activities, I don't expect the player to put in a huge amount of money but greed will not allow some people to only use small amount.

That's true, but let's not forget that online casinos abuse this and steal from people who use VPN.

In a normal situation, when a person deals with a legit company, breaking a rule results in the loss of any profit and account closure, but should not result in the business taking all your money.
A legit casino should always return the deposit, or what's left of it and ban the client, but many casinos steal deposits claiming that after the user was discovered breaking the ToS, they don't want anything to do with him.

Imagine that you take a car to a dealership and they find that you tried to fix it on your own, or installed some OEM parts and they take these parts away for breaking the ToS, or they take your whole car and leave you with nothing.

Don't break the ToS people, but also be aware that if you do, you may get scammed by the casino.

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Quote from: Russlenat on December 01, 2024, 07:16:27 AM

...Suddenly, their system flags us for accessing the casino from a restricted country, and our funds get frozen. That’s something I’ve read from many members on scam accusation boards. They think the casino is okay with it, but it’s not.

If you realize that you are violating the rules of the casino, then you should be prepared for the fact that your account will be blocked sooner or later. And as a rule, after such a block, the participant does not consider himself guilty and another thread appears on the forum that the casino is blocking a "bona fide" participant.

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Quote from: Russlenat on December 01, 2024, 07:16:27 AM

I know we all want to gamble, and some of us live in countries where gambling is completely illegal, which means there are no online casinos offering games locally. So, we turn to global casinos that don’t require KYC. Even though we see in the TOS that our country is restricted, we still keep going because they don’t block us. But then, as we get hooked on the casino, we start depositing big money to win big. Suddenly, their system flags us for accessing the casino from a restricted country, and our funds get frozen. That’s something I’ve read from many members on scam accusation boards. They think the casino is okay with it, but it’s not.

the casino sees from which IP the player logs in and they also distinguish between VPNs, if the player is ready to lose access to the account and his funds, then let him take the risk. This situation is interesting because both parties understand that there is a violation of the rules, but there are cases when the casino turns a blind eye to this. If I were in such a situation, I would not take risks and would play somewhere at the local level, since it is impossible to completely ban gambling.

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Quote from: Russlenat on December 01, 2024, 07:16:27 AM

I know we all want to gamble, and some of us live in countries where gambling is completely illegal, which means there are no online casinos offering games locally. So, we turn to global casinos that don’t require KYC. Even though we see in the TOS that our country is restricted, we still keep going because they don’t block us. But then, as we get hooked on the casino, we start depositing big money to win big. Suddenly, their system flags us for accessing the casino from a restricted country, and our funds get frozen. That’s something I’ve read from many members on scam accusation boards. They think the casino is okay with it, but it’s not.

It is difficult to prevent gamblers who force themselves to continue betting even though their account fate can be frozen at any time due to entering a restricted area. Playing naughty with VPN may occasionally escape and succeed in withdrawing winnings. The casino will gradually detect their activities and at the same time aggressive gamblers deposit large amounts even though they are aware of the risks but there should have been consequences for their actions from the start. In the end they file fraud charges on the pretext of blaming the casino.

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Quote from: Russlenat on December 01, 2024, 07:16:27 AM

I know we all want to gamble, and some of us live in countries where gambling is completely illegal, which means there are no online casinos offering games locally. So, we turn to global casinos that don’t require KYC. Even though we see in the TOS that our country is restricted, we still keep going because they don’t block us.

This is the consequences of using VPN to access an online casino website where they have restricted access to offering their services to your country. There are over a thousand reputable online casinos that one can access being that they offer their services to people of your country where the other doesn't. There are alternatives. Accessing a restricted one ifor whatever reason is not acceptable. And when they have every reason to withhold your funds because you broke the rules and feigning ignorance is even not an excuse.

The rules are very simple to understand
- Don't use a VPN to access a casino when access to your country is restricted.
- Even when access is not restricted, don't allow anyone who also has an account on that gambling website use your computer to log into their account. Their system will flag it as you having multiple accounts. This is also the same advice for using a public computer like in a library to log into your casino account.

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Quote from: Russlenat on December 01, 2024, 07:16:27 AM

I know we all want to gamble, and some of us live in countries where gambling is completely illegal, which means there are no online casinos offering games locally. So, we turn to global casinos that don’t require KYC. Even though we see in the TOS that our country is restricted, we still keep going because they don’t block us. But then, as we get hooked on the casino, we start depositing big money to win big. Suddenly, their system flags us for accessing the casino from a restricted country, and our funds get frozen. That’s something I’ve read from many members on scam accusation boards. They think the casino is okay with it, but it’s not.

Yaaah, there's a lot of victims on this kind of method because these no-KYC casinos seem good at the start, but when you start winnin' or deposin' big, they’ll use that “restricted country” thing to screw you or require you some impossible requirement.

You have no fight on this if that's included on their TOS but if not, they will eventuall fck up your money like almost stealing it. It's hard to stick to the legal process because people don't want KYCs or just find a good gambling platform that's not requires too much.

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Quote from: Russlenat on December 01, 2024, 07:16:27 AM

That’s something I’ve read from many members on scam accusation boards. They think the casino is okay with it, but it’s not.

Under any circumstances, a gambler signs up if he is based in a restricted country. Unless there is a term that you can use a VPN and the support allows you to use a VPN, you can get caught because the casino has an efficient tracking system that they can easily trace if you're using a VPN, nowhere in the terms of the VPN can guarantee that you are safe if you use their service in a casino.
Of course, unless you just want to play and have no intention of cashing out if ever you win, because the withdrawal will trigger an alarm on your account.

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Quote from: Russlenat on December 01, 2024, 07:16:27 AM

Suddenly, their system flags us for accessing the casino from a restricted country, and our funds get frozen. That’s something I’ve read from many members on scam accusation boards. They think the casino is okay with it, but it’s not.

I won't blame any casino that flags an account for that reason even if huge funds had already been deposited. Why would anyone take such a needless risk by gambling on a site where their country of origin or residence is facing restrictions from a casino. That's a case of intentionally courting trouble. Anyone who does that knowingly brought such a headache upon themselves. I don't send money to a site if I'm not completely verified and my KYC okayed. That's what I do and I don't bother accessing any site where my country is restricted.

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What makes this extremely risky is if the casino treats you unfairly, you won’t have any rights to defend yourself because you were doing something that’s not even prohibited in their platform in the first place. I have seen many cases here in the forum where their complaints fall on to deaf ears since the casino is not under their government’s jurisdiction so there’s really nothing they can do.

If your money gets compromised in the casino or there’s some kind of injustice that happened to you, you won’t have any right to complain not really. So, think about accessing a platform that doesn’t operate on your country first before using it.

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Some of them will still risk thier funds thinking they could get away though. Regrets come when they are caught. Centralize casinos will more than likely comply with the government, they're not going to risk their operation just for those users.

There are alternatives they can do however. Some casinos completely don't ask for KYC just like the TRON Gambling dapps, with those casinos they don't even have to register their names. They are not as popular as the top crypto casinos but they will be safe there.

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Quote from: Russlenat on December 01, 2024, 07:16:27 AM

I know we all want to gamble, and some of us live in countries where gambling is completely illegal, which means there are no online casinos offering games locally. So, we turn to global casinos that don’t require KYC. Even though we see in the TOS that our country is restricted, we still keep going because they don’t block us. But then, as we get hooked on the casino, we start depositing big money to win big. Suddenly, their system flags us for accessing the casino from a restricted country, and our funds get frozen. That’s something I’ve read from many members on scam accusation boards. They think the casino is okay with it, but it’s not.

Unfortunately, some governments have a very bad view of gambling to the point of banning gambling in their countries. They think that with these measures, they are protecting their citizens, but the same governments have allowed their citizens to buy and consume a lot of alcohol. Citizens of restricted countries cannot get around the restrictions, because by doing so, they run the risk of losing their money, even in cases where they are lucky enough to win. Some cases take advantage of these situations. They let people from restricted countries play. When these people lose, there is no problem, but when these people win a lot of money and want to make withdrawals, then the casino does not allow it, freezes the funds and blocks their account. My advice: if the person knows that gambling is prohibited in his country, then do not play at online casinos.

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Quote from: Akbarkoe on December 01, 2024, 12:29:49 PM

Quote from: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on December 01, 2024, 09:47:01 AM

Well, before a gambler decides to use VPN to bypass the restrictions of casinos in their country, they should also be willing to accept any consequence that is attached to their actions. Even they should to play smart by carry out such activities, I don't expect the player to put in a huge amount of money but greed will not allow some people to only use small amount.

If you use a VPN because some casinos prohibit it, then communication with the casino service is very important to do so that they understand that you are accessing their casino using a VPN so that there is no violation and can cause our funds to be frozen or our account banned, that is one way, then if you don't use it, then the option like you said by only using a little money is better, but unfortunately your fun will be limited if you do something like that.

Would it be valuable to check out with the casino's customers representative about using a VPN? Isn't it like shooting yourself in the leg. Hiding the process is great, and most times the security won't flag the account easily. Unless a loophole occurs, which is mostly going to happen. It's also fine not to play with huge amounts. Yet, the risk is always with the gambler winning so much money. That's when the house openly figures out where a player is gambling from, whether flagged or not.

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Gambling can be more tempting because of its impressive prizes. However, if you push yourself gambling on a non-KYC casino because gambling is illegal in your country, in the event of fraudulence or non-payment on your winnings, you will get no consumer protection from your own country, that’s the risk there.

Since you chose to violate your local gambling laws, its rules and policies, then you will never gain personal assistance from your country itself, and even put you into jail if ever you are caught gambling when it’s strictly not allowed.

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Quote from: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on December 01, 2024, 09:47:01 AM

Well, before a gambler decides to use VPN to bypass the restrictions of casinos in their country, they should also be willing to accept any consequence that is attached to their actions. Even they should to play smart by carry out such activities, I don't expect the player to put in a huge amount of money but greed will not allow some people to only use small amount.

If you use a VPN because some casinos prohibit it, then communication with the casino service is very important to do so that they understand that you are accessing their casino using a VPN so that there is no violation and can cause our funds to be frozen or our account banned, that is one way, then if you don't use it, then the option like you said by only using a little money is better, but unfortunately your fun will be limited if you do something like that.

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Quote from: Russlenat on December 01, 2024, 07:16:27 AM

I know we all want to gamble, and some of us live in countries where gambling is completely illegal, which means there are no online casinos offering games locally. So, we turn to global casinos that don’t require KYC. Even though we see in the TOS that our country is restricted, we still keep going because they don’t block us. But then, as we get hooked on the casino, we start depositing big money to win big. Suddenly, their system flags us for accessing the casino from a restricted country, and our funds get frozen. That’s something I’ve read from many members on scam accusation boards. They think the casino is okay with it, but it’s not.

Here in our country, our president declared that gambling casinos were banned, but in reality we discovered that his declaration was just a show, because the gambling casinos they closed were their competitors, and the ones that were left still operating were the gambling casinos they owned.

But no, of course they won't admit it, but we see their illegal casinos on social media because they want to shut down all the gamblers nationwide.
This is how cruel our other government officials are.

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Quote from: Russlenat on December 01, 2024, 07:16:27 AM

I know we all want to gamble, and some of us live in countries where gambling is completely illegal, which means there are no online casinos offering games locally. So, we turn to global casinos that don’t require KYC. Even though we see in the TOS that our country is restricted, we still keep going because they don’t block us. But then, as we get hooked on the casino, we start depositing big money to win big. Suddenly, their system flags us for accessing the casino from a restricted country, and our funds get frozen. That’s something I’ve read from many members on scam accusation boards. They think the casino is okay with it, but it’s not.

I can see something like that being disproportionally used against people who wish to gamble from countries which rule their citizens through the use of the Sharia law,.or muslin majority countries in general. And it is not a surprise to me though, casinos have their own automatic systems det up in order for them to scan winning accounts at the moment they decide to withdraw funds, in search of any anomaly,.from the lack of KYC document submition to the actual origin of the person who won the money. Legally, there id nothing the person can do, because it is usual for the casinos to explicitly have a section on those issues and since the home country of the gambler is antagonistic against gambler, it is very unlikely there will be legal assistance for the gambler who gets their money frozen by the casino.
The best thing one can do in such escenario is not to take the risk in the first place and find other alternatives, perhaps some more decentralized casinos which do not care on ones nationality or IP

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Quote from: Russlenat on December 01, 2024, 07:16:27 AM

They think the casino is okay with it, but it’s not.

to be honest, I think a lot of them know to themselves that the casino is not ok with it(unless the casino themselves stated that they are ok with accepting gamblers from restricted countries) and know the risk of what could happen, they just say the casino was ok with it because they were able to deposit, gamble and sometimes withdraw to justify and downplay their action of ignoring the casino's Terms and Conditions.

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