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legendary
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And what can Britain offer to other countries, if it can not even protect itself. According to the latest data, they even failed to launch tests of new nuclear missiles. They fell short of the target. It's a shame that the British hid.

IMO, the United Kingdom should not be allowed to posses the nuclear weapons anymore. They are no longer a super-power, and if Germany and Japan can do without the nukes, then there is no reason why we should allow the possession of such weapons by the UK.
And who is going to stop us ..NO ONE. Wink
And no incest people will ever stop us..YOUR ALL SPASTICS ..
You need us UK to buy you wheel chairs ..

even failed to launch tests of new nuclear missiles..Yes it's called a TEST.

von braun  plenty failed  Grin

We are the UK we invent shit..

And what can Britain offer to other countries  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy..
I thinks you need to google what the UK as invented  Wink
sr. member
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IMO, the United Kingdom should not be allowed to posses the nuclear weapons anymore. They are no longer a super-power, and if Germany and Japan can do without the nukes, then there is no reason why we should allow the possession of such weapons by the UK.

Hey, I helped pay for them with the tax on my hot take out food so I'd like to keep them. They're lots of fun for everyone and spawn cool James Bond esque facilities.
So soon there will be a new release of the film about the legendary agent 007. Lol. But only if Serious, then Britain will lose its position in its positions, if it comes out of the European Union and loses Scotland.
legendary
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IMO, the United Kingdom should not be allowed to posses the nuclear weapons anymore. They are no longer a super-power, and if Germany and Japan can do without the nukes, then there is no reason why we should allow the possession of such weapons by the UK.

Hey, I helped pay for them with the tax on my hot take out food so I'd like to keep them. They're lots of fun for everyone and spawn cool James Bond esque facilities.
legendary
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And what can Britain offer to other countries, if it can not even protect itself. According to the latest data, they even failed to launch tests of new nuclear missiles. They fell short of the target. It's a shame that the British hid.

IMO, the United Kingdom should not be allowed to posses the nuclear weapons anymore. They are no longer a super-power, and if Germany and Japan can do without the nukes, then there is no reason why we should allow the possession of such weapons by the UK.
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Imagine what will happen if Scotland secedes from the United Kingdom. The UK is a super power (or more reasonably said, an ex-super power). Scotland will be never able to achieve the power and dominance, which is currently wielded by the UK. Also, remember that the UK is a nuclear power.

I don't think Scotland has the slightest desire to be powerful and dominant. Happy and prosperous sounds like a much more cheerful plan.

I'd rather be living in somewhere like Iceland which has zero desire to fuck with anywhere else than Russia or the US.

You've got a very important point. Smaller nations tend to be more peaceful and prosperous. That may be due to the fact that they mind their own business and never interfere in the internal affairs of anyone else. Apart from Iceland, we have examples such as Malta, Luxembourg, Lichtenstein, Andorra.etc.
I disagree with you. In the East a lot of small countries, but they cannot be called peaceful. As to the power of Britain, I think her time has passed. They are the former Empire. Now it's just one of the developed countries, not more. In the separation of Scotland no one will use nuclear weapons. I do think that the horror stories about nuclear weapons have no meaning because even in the presence of the nuclear Arsenal of the war will lead in conventional arms.
And what can Britain offer to other countries, if it can not even protect itself. According to the latest data, they even failed to launch tests of new nuclear missiles. They fell short of the target. It's a shame that the British hid.
legendary
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I disagree with you. In the East a lot of small countries, but they cannot be called peaceful.

Even in the East (Asia/Oceania) most of the smaller nations are peaceful. Look at nations such as Bhutan, Brunei, Maldives, Singapore, Nauru, Palau, Tonga, and Syechelles. They are much more peaceful and economically developed than their neighbors.
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Imagine what will happen if Scotland secedes from the United Kingdom. The UK is a super power (or more reasonably said, an ex-super power). Scotland will be never able to achieve the power and dominance, which is currently wielded by the UK. Also, remember that the UK is a nuclear power.

I don't think Scotland has the slightest desire to be powerful and dominant. Happy and prosperous sounds like a much more cheerful plan.

I'd rather be living in somewhere like Iceland which has zero desire to fuck with anywhere else than Russia or the US.

You've got a very important point. Smaller nations tend to be more peaceful and prosperous. That may be due to the fact that they mind their own business and never interfere in the internal affairs of anyone else. Apart from Iceland, we have examples such as Malta, Luxembourg, Lichtenstein, Andorra.etc.
I disagree with you. In the East a lot of small countries, but they cannot be called peaceful. As to the power of Britain, I think her time has passed. They are the former Empire. Now it's just one of the developed countries, not more. In the separation of Scotland no one will use nuclear weapons. I do think that the horror stories about nuclear weapons have no meaning because even in the presence of the nuclear Arsenal of the war will lead in conventional arms.
legendary
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Imagine what will happen if Scotland secedes from the United Kingdom. The UK is a super power (or more reasonably said, an ex-super power). Scotland will be never able to achieve the power and dominance, which is currently wielded by the UK. Also, remember that the UK is a nuclear power.

I don't think Scotland has the slightest desire to be powerful and dominant. Happy and prosperous sounds like a much more cheerful plan.

I'd rather be living in somewhere like Iceland which has zero desire to fuck with anywhere else than Russia or the US.

You've got a very important point. Smaller nations tend to be more peaceful and prosperous. That may be due to the fact that they mind their own business and never interfere in the internal affairs of anyone else. Apart from Iceland, we have examples such as Malta, Luxembourg, Lichtenstein, Andorra.etc.
legendary
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The UK government has already said it will block Scottish referendum until the completion of Brexit. Interestingly enough if forces Theresa May to keep Britain from collapse. Here is an example of what can happen to the country if you trust the right choices for the future not professionals. It is a crisis of democracy.

Well the Scots may want their freedom but if they don't attain any benefits from the European Common Market for doing so its not as attractive. Either way the Brit's are in a strong enough position to leverage the commonwealth as a hedge being an old superpower the relations are still there and they are lucky to have the Queen around to handle this mess for now. The figurehead has lingering power through stability.
legendary
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Imagine what will happen if Scotland secedes from the United Kingdom. The UK is a super power (or more reasonably said, an ex-super power). Scotland will be never able to achieve the power and dominance, which is currently wielded by the UK. Also, remember that the UK is a nuclear power.

I don't think Scotland has the slightest desire to be powerful and dominant. Happy and prosperous sounds like a much more cheerful plan.

I'd rather be living in somewhere like Iceland which has zero desire to fuck with anywhere else than Russia or the US.
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For a foreigner it's really hard to imagine such thing to happen. It's always been the UK)))

I don't know who feels UKish, but I doubt very many people do. It's a convenient framework and that's about it.

You're likely to get an impressively hostile reaction from your UK brethren if you're from a part they don't appreciate.

Imagine what will happen if Scotland secedes from the United Kingdom. The UK is a super power (or more reasonably said, an ex-super power). Scotland will be never able to achieve the power and dominance, which is currently wielded by the UK. Also, remember that the UK is a nuclear power.
And in general, what resources are there in Scotland, thanks to which it can exist? I do not know about such people. Can it have a lot of gas or oil, or is the production strong? And you should not talk about a nuclear shield. For this, there is a nato. But there are no real opportunities to live independently.
legendary
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For a foreigner it's really hard to imagine such thing to happen. It's always been the UK)))

I don't know who feels UKish, but I doubt very many people do. It's a convenient framework and that's about it.

You're likely to get an impressively hostile reaction from your UK brethren if you're from a part they don't appreciate.

Imagine what will happen if Scotland secedes from the United Kingdom. The UK is a super power (or more reasonably said, an ex-super power). Scotland will be never able to achieve the power and dominance, which is currently wielded by the UK. Also, remember that the UK is a nuclear power.
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 Scottish parliament votes for second independence referendum

MSPs pass motion to give Nicola Sturgeon the authority to begin negotiations with UK parliament on breakaway vote

Nicola Sturgeon has won a key Holyrood vote on her plans for a second independence referendum, triggering accusations from UK ministers that her demands are premature.

Sturgeon won by a 10-vote majority after the Scottish Greens backed her proposals to formally request from the UK government the powers to stage a fresh independence vote at around the time Britain leaves the EU, in spring 2019.
UK government signals it will block second Scottish independence referendum until early 2020s - as it happened
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She is due to write to Theresa May later this week, asking for Westminster to hand Holyrood the temporary powers to stage the referendum under a section 30 order. She said she would avoid writing until the prime minister had invoked article 50 to trigger the Brexit process, which she is expected to do on Wednesday.

“It is not my intention to do so confrontationally, instead I only seek sensible discussion,” Sturgeon told MSPs.

The vote, which split the Scottish parliament cleanly between pro- and anti-independence parties, deepened the dispute between the two governments over both the need for and the timing of the vote.

David Mundell, the Scottish secretary, told the BBC the answer to Sturgeon’s request would be no. “We won’t be entering any negotiations at all until the Brexit process is complete,” he said. “Now is the time for the Scottish government to come together with the UK government, work together to get the best possible deal for the UK, and that means Scotland, as we leave the EU.”

Mundell rejected Sturgeon’s claims that May had told her the terms of the UK’s departure from the EU and its new trade deal would be clear in about 18 months. Sturgeon said that timeframe matched her preference for a referendum just as the UK quits the EU in March 2019.

Source: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/mar/28/scottish-parliament-votes-for-second-independence-referendum-nicola-sturgeon
legendary
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The Eu is a gang of robbing politicians robbing our taxes to do what they please..
And the 28 countries politicians were all ripping us off by over charging on building statues anything Wink.

You go to work  and give me 10 pounds of your wages ?

I will spend 8 pounds on something you don't need   well that's what your getting a plastic gnome
and the other 2 pounds i will keep for myself..

And 500 million people will do this for me Grin..

You would tell me to fuck off Wink..So the same goes to the EU..

The saying goes you don't get nothing for nothing in this world..

So explain how does paying all the EU politicians wages plus the building they sit in   plus the IMF bank
So how do we pay for all this and keep giving nations free money..

You see how we pay for it is WE GIVE 10 BILLION AND GET 5 BILLION BACK..
A loss of 5 billion to pay the EU GANGSTERS  ..

Now i have trouble with my own countries politicians     never mind politicians i don't even know
So why on earth would i want them in my life..
Just about want our own politicians in power..   

To many politicians all over Europe SCAMMING THE PUBLIC..

every country on this planet as scamming politicians ..Some good ones   some bad ones in every land..

Just need to weed them out Wink..Like the whole EU POLITICIANS weed them out..
And i like weed Grin
legendary
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Now last point which no one as picked up on..

See the Eurovision song contest    
how many EU countries always vote the uk 0 points even though the song is not to good  
our song as been better than some of them in the contest..
So the EU hate us.. Only the big nations that did like us the rest hated us..

Now about the EU..The funding the EU gave to the uk  it was never going to be every year
what about the other nations..
So they would of funded parts of wales for 2 years    then some other part in France 2 years later

You don't think the EU was going to fund parts of the uk forever do you?..
They would of funded parts of the uk for 2 years      
Then moved on to Poland and funded Poland for 2 years..

The Remoaners thought the EU will fund parts of there towns forever Cheesy Cheesy..
And when the Eu fund a town   I.E we really paid for it with our 10 billion we give to the EU..
This is what the EU build..

Nick Clegg: Why did Ebbw Vale in Wales vote Brexit? BBC Newsnight ...
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Former deputy prime minister Nick Clegg reports for us from Ebbw Vale in South Wales to find out why people .


When the EU build statues and stupid stuff   It's the rip off con..
Over priced because some politician has made a cut..

They built a dragon ..Cost maybe half the price  the politician wink wink charges double  
Well it's his friend building the dragon statue for wales..


GLAD TO BE OUT OF THE EU...
legendary
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For a foreigner it's really hard to imagine such thing to happen. It's always been the UK)))

I don't know who feels UKish, but I doubt very many people do. It's a convenient framework and that's about it.

You're likely to get an impressively hostile reaction from your UK brethren if you're from a part they don't appreciate.
legendary
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I think that if the UK price for brexit would be a loss of Scotland and Northern Ireland that can still change. The UK was already experiencing economic problems. The pound continues to fall and is accelerating inflation. All of this can lead to mass protests and a possible revision of the decision on withdrawal from the EU.
Uk as no problems BUT WITH ISLAMIC NUTTERS Wink

We are great BRITAIN   One of the best minds humans could ever have..
WE ARE WAY TO SMART TO FAIL..

WE INVENT SHIT Wink Wink Wink Wink
legendary
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No ^  Most Scots want to stay with the UK 
It's the SDP wanting to become the sole power of Scotland   no matter the cost

Germany ranked 15th among NATO members at 1.2 percent.

Minister told to remind Germany of cancelled WW2 debt amid EU ...
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21 Mar 2017 - Minister told to remind Germany of cancelled WW2 debt amid EU demand for .... Angela Merkel's Germany of the 1953 London Debt Agreement.

SO YOU TELL MAMA MERKEL WE OWE THE EU    NOTHING Wink   

So that's you sorted ..right who is next..

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I think that if the UK price for brexit would be a loss of Scotland and Northern Ireland that can still change. The UK was already experiencing economic problems. The pound continues to fall and is accelerating inflation. All of this can lead to mass protests and a possible revision of the decision on withdrawal from the EU.
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For a foreigner it's really hard to imagine such thing to happen. It's always been the UK))) There are soooo many experts and opinions but I wonder how it will affect more distant future, I guess we'll see) Borders matter less and less while laws are more important. On the other hand, everything heads towards standardization, trading agreements are important, it's unlikely any decision that will be made is going to harm anyone badly or is it?
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