Topic: The scramble for merits (Read 858 times)

This matter wey you clear so, e don give me hope and and na wetin you talk me self go do. Thanks for sharing man.
Here’s another think I believe works too. Patience and consistency pays off

Thank you sir, it's really a long ride and I'm actually enjoying it. What you said about my post above is true. I've come to realize that there is no growth without knowledge and I will admit that I'm learning a lot here.
I believe I will get merit at the right time but I keep pushing steady in learning  and understanding the forum, Bitcoin and crypto at large, I'm grateful for your reply and I'm putting efforts to learn, to read and study and i think i prefer it more than posting just to get merit.
Indeed, knowledge is power.
Thank you capable moderator, it's a privilege I grately appreciate, you've truly set me on the right part.

Thank you so much @Marykeller. I believe thats just the fact. Dear OP, just do well to go through this user's(Marykeller) Comments. Right from origin when I joined this forum, the emphasis has always been on read, read & always read. More of knowledge, less posting. That growing on this platform depends on quality post or information shared which I believe comes from the knowledge gathered while reading.

So, as newbies, let's not get worried. Constant study will give us the mastery skill that we need to be better and get much merits as we deserve in due season. So, we keep pushing, we keep learning, we keep growing. One love

Truthfully speaking, I love your pov on this , many has taken this wrongly, saying maybe I'm out here for just merits but it's more than that.
I just felt this was something to talk about, which I did but not in the Best of ways , but regardless am Glad I said something.

Everyone needs the merits here, though it might be that new users need it more but I tell you, the old members need it as a matter of priority at times. This is to either build a better status or maintain a good one.

This is the shortcoming of the forum's merit system, though it is helpful to curb spamming, it gives room for partial and effective distribution of the merit. That is why you will see a post of just two words with a normal meaning gaining over 50 merits, while a better constructed quality post has none.

I agree with you but it can't work because sentiments rule this forum.

I tire my brother, meriting a post is all about my decision and understanding of your post and the level of information I feel that it conveys. although I understand OP's frustration with not getting relatively enough merits to compensate for his time and energy spent on developing topics. we all felt that way sometimes ago as people growing in the forum. OP needs to learn and continue learning if he must grow in the forum and keep finding where you are talented in and contribute more there meaningfully to gain merits.

Another thing is that for you to be lucky and gain merits in the forum you need to be smart and active, learn from the already established members by reading through their posts that gave them merit and digest the level of information they passed across in such scenario, compare it to yours and look for ways to up your game to the standards of posts that gets merits. you can also use the Supernotifier to be notified of new topics, mentions, merits and new replies in topics of interest. Also try to contribute in first pages of new topics as it increases your chances of being spotted easily and merited if your post is qualitative enough.

If we are to say the truth,it is very demoralising when one comes up with a good and quality posts,and within himself,he expects merits,but would be surprised that the post won't be merited,these and many more are what comes as a problem to newbies and people coming up in this forum.All I say is that if there is any post that is worth meriting, please give the merit without sentiment, because I know when merits were given the moment you are able to make a quality post,but now,you can be expecting it and won't see any.

What you have said is reasonable in this forum, but I think senior person class walks play a special role to encourage newbies. Anyone, you or I, can create a forum posting environment, if we have a little patience and think deeply about different people's posts and post regularly. That being said, posting in forums doesn't require you to be very knowledgeable or follow any guidelines, but we should keep an eye on how senior people conduct themselves in terms of their post style. We will only qualify a post for merit when the background of our post is nice and elegant.
Desperation does not bring success in a person's life, if you keep posting regularly in the forum and patiently observe the post patterns of experienced people in the forum then you will be able to reach your specific goal.
As we know, the fruit of patience is sweet.

I’ve also come to understand that not all good and quality posts are often merited in the forum, not because they’re not quality enough, merit worthy or impactful, I’ve seen lots and countless number of such quality posts that were left unmerited, and maybe the reason for this is that, regardless of how quality and educative your post may be, it may not actually meet the standards of the person that comes across the post, and that’s also why we have threads where you’re given the opportunity to report any post you feel is quality enough to receive a merit, you can report it to the threads and if those who come across it also share your opinion and think it’s also merit worthy, they merit the post. But just because a post isn’t merited doesn’t imply the post isn’t quality enough and that shouldn’t dissuade anyone from making further meaningful contributions.

This are some of the things newbie must experience in this bitcoinstalk forum, to know why old members are getting merits than newbies in some threads because there are some things old members will correct in your thread, that will make other people that will comment in your thread to understand what the topic is all about, which the person may get merits than you that created the thread. Bitcoinstalk forum is place that contains or accommodate wise men and women, Before you create any thread in this forum, they read between the lines of the thread to know if you created it for merits purchase or for impact purpose, which you will definitely know by the reply and comments of other members in the forum, and if the thread is for impact you may get merits from the thread, and if you don't get merits done be panic about that than to move on with your good contribution to the forum.

When we get more merit sources for local board e go dey easier for newbies and other ranks to get merits for the effort them dey out imo their writing. Let’s hope Theymos will approve a new merit source for us this Christmas. For now, you can post your best threads/posts here to get merits:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/request-report-unmerited-good-posts-here-5506090

Sigh! I really can't believe I read this thread from the first page to the fourth page. I'm not happy with some of the things I came across sincerely speaking. I don't want to wake the sleeping dog but please we all can do better than this actually. The country is already divided out there, let not cause further division here.


Oga, nobody understand your post in the wrong way. Na the way you put am dem dey interpret am for you. You don't need to be desperate about merits unless you are just here for a mission. I can not lie, so many of us felt the same thing in the past but we later realized it won't solve anything. The moment you put merit first, you'll always think you're not getting enough merit. You just have to relax and continue with worthy contributions, merits will definitely come when you least expect.

Personally, you think your posts are worthy of merits but believe me they're just thrash in the eyes of someone. You can not dictate for anyone what post to merit and not, everyone has their own test as what a worthy post is all about. Every thread can not be merited because newbies create the most topics while high ranks reply to such topics with useful information. You don't expect a repetitive topic to get merit ahead of informative reply under such topics.

An adage says that, when you are in haste you'll think you're not walking faster. That's your case now. You want to rank up as quickly as possible and you think merits is not coming as you expect. If you don't change that mindset now, you'll definitely feel disappointed and discouraged. Rome wasn't built in a day, you know.

By the way, nobody assured you of merits. You don't need to tie your encouragement to merits alone. The ideas you're getting here is enough to get you encouraged and keep the energy. If some of us have this mentality when we started, we wouldn't have reached here today. We will succumb and abandoned the forum long ago because nobody care about your emotions and blackmails plus you go chop tag for shit posting or spamming if care is not taken.

You and I know that countless of posts have been made about merit sending and yours is not the first. Why expecting merit for repeating what has been talked about countless times? Abeg, make all of us just keep up and improve to make our local board and the forum entirely better.

I feel your pain OP, na that challenge I dey face too,  it used to discourage me either, giving merit to newbies and Jr. members is going to encourage them to post more on the forum but if their posts is ignored they will be thinking that maybe what they are posting is not making any sense(meaningless), and they will fill disappointed and discourage. but sometimes I motivated myself to clear the discouraged and focus on my motivation. Because I realized that you can't get anything that is good until you work hard for it, and if you are patient you will be able to achieved what you want. So don't be discouraged, keep posting good posts and read a lot of posts on the forum and you will learn a lot of things from it.

You've said it all, the population of the forum is increasing rapidly with fewer merit sources and at this point instead of complaining the OP should hope that more merit sources would be added to the forum to reward members with good quality posts. There's no doubt that it can be very heartbreaking to see that the post one feel is merit worthy doesn't get rewarded with merits whereas the replies by other people are getting merited in their own thread but come to think of it, the post one thinks is merit worthy might not seem well educative or interesting for people to merit them but they'll rather give merits to good replies or opinions concerning the person's topic and that's just it. However instead of being discouraged by that it's in the best interest of the OP to read and understand those merited replies to see why they got merited and learn from them, they should serve as a motivation for him to improve better instead of being discouraged. it implies to people who feel discouraged for getting fewer merits too.

Op this local board population is the highest full of smart people  making good post like you too, no magic you have to be consistent to earn merit here.  Beside how many merit source do we have on the local board? Is just the moderator and is not enough with the increase in population on the board. Instead of complaining pray Local Board have more merit source like other boards. So merit can reach everyone. Until then keep making your good post.

Indeed it’s so discouraging, I will advice you stop taking merit distribution personal because if you view the merit system in such manner you might feel hurt always for example few of those post the op never received a merit it’s either op asked a question and when people try to answer or solving a problem they get merit in return. It doesn’t necessary have to be a question also, the context of a written article matters a lot because creating a topic don’t only determine if you’ll recieve merit in return.

You’re just being honest, merit distribution can’t be done forcefully I guess anyone can share their merit base on an agreed opinion, quality, etc. focus more on reading you’ll understand how merit system works but, in the search of merit I hope you educate yourself more about the forum and bitcoin.

Op let me just tell you the honest truth there's absolutely no need complaining about how newbies receive merit on this forum all you have do is make quality posts it mustn't be a topic,once you start contributing and sharing quality ideas,merits will definitely come because there's nothing hidden under the sun.
Let me share my merit experience with you all,when I joined this forum I was curious to create topics with the perspective of receiving merit even when it wasn't worth meriting,I could remember the first topic I created on this forum was a total trash just like we do say I was attacked and at last the topic was deleted, though it hurt my feelings then but I told myself that if isn't good enough then it isn't perfect,so I had to read more,took out time to carry out research about Bitcoin and the crypto space at large.And when I created my second topic on this forum I received my first merit and it was encouraging and ever then I've been contributing quality posts on what I know.So I'll advise you to keep pushing and start making quality posts,and if your posts are worthy of merits it will definitely come.
The two merit source we have in Naija board,@CryptopreneurBrainboss and @Igebotz are really doing a great job by sending merits to quality posts.I really do appreciate you both for the good work.

Don't be discouraged about not getting enough, I must say that every higher ranked members you see in the forum today started just the same way with you although while some already had certain level of knowledge in the crypto space others started learning while while navigating the forum, now depending on the criteria you fall in, my point is that you should try not to be discouraged, keep growing thicker skin, do the needful that is expected of you which is making educative informative quality posts, asking relevant questions where and when necessary surprisingly you can't imagine how fast you can grow in the forum, finally it is also very good to be very active, yes pays to be active.

"There is no point in hoarding sMerit; keeping it yourself does not benefit you, and we reserve the right to decay unused sMerit in the future"

There is no limit to how many smerits you can give to a certain profile as long as you believe the posts are worthy. If you need me to review someone's profile or posts, please report it here or shoot me a PM.


Got you! But you should know that the forum is about solutions - if you create a topic asking questions, those who provide answers on your topic are most likely to get more merits than you. It's a normal practice here.

You're breaking the basics rules - double posting

Yes, merit should be sent to quality posts. Hatchy did not mean anyone should send merit to a post because of argument. He meant that likely one or some of his posts can be merit worthy just like this in summary. Do not let the merit Hatchy sent Gooner0 confuse you.

Let me just say you are a newcomer based on the physical appearance of the account, but deep down you are not. Newbies cannot confidently say or reply to people who are commenting on his thread. However, if you are looking for merit, you must do a very good post that works meritingly. People who replied to your post may write it in a more meaninful way than you do, so no lack of merit; it’s because it does not merit improvement. You will see merit in your posts.


For the fact that merit was not created for the sake of stopping arguments, I see no reason why they should give the OP merit when they think the post is not worth meriting. If you give out your smerit, find a quality post and send it, and don’t give it because there is an argument and you think merit will be the reason to stop such arguments.


Did you think so? Because if you look at the first page of this thread, igebotz gave some merits to some users; are they his friends? However, the boards you see doing that maybe because they have merit sources more than we do here or their merit sources get more merit allocation than here. 

I think the reason why majority of the newbies in the forum prioritize Ranking/Merit system and growth over genuine acquisition of knowledge is because of how they managed to learn about the forum or how or who introduced them to the forum, and what information their referee gave them. We know the greatest issue our Naija people are facing is lack of job opportunities and so people prefer to look at the forum as a way of earning a living, rather than a community to learn and share ideas and information.

So if a newbie’s referee tells the newbie that he earns through the newbie and that the only way to earn from the forum is by trying as much as possible to earn some good number of merits to qualify you to join a campaign and then you can start earning from the campaign, these newbies will act on this information and all their actions on the forum would be based on the information they received from their referee, thereby prioritizing growth and merit system over the knowledge that’s embedded in the forum. This I believe is the main reason to this misconception of the forum by the newbies.

I really do care about getting merits , and also I don't care if I don't. I've only spent I think two months on this forum, I was introduced by a friend of mine. And trust me I've really gotten a lot of information from this forum that has improved me a lot. And I look forward to getting schooled more.
This topic I started is just something I observed on the forum, I just decided to speak out , if you do check my other topics you wouldn't see any topic I've started that isn't merited but replies under my topic getting merits! No you wouldn't see , so this is just from my observation on other topics, I'm not crying out to get merited.  

I really love wetin you talk here. Everything you don talk for your reply make adequate sense, but this particular paragraph I believe na e be the actual problem many newbies dey encounter. Anyways, I no really blame them because when me I be even first join the forum, my priority na to earn the required merits to qualify me to join campaign and start t dey chop campaign money, but along the line as I proceed I come dey observe say asides the money wey person fit chop for campaign, this forum dey embodied with plenty plenty information wey we fit use develop ourselves and you fit only benefit from the forum when you carry your eye down to read and learn, rather than to dey busy dey hustle for merits.

So far, na me know wetin I don learn for the forum, things wey be say, as I dey apply for the real life, e dey help me both financially and otherwise. So this na the best advice for newbies, no be say to fyn merits no be better thing o, but sometimes, just dedicate yourself to reading and learning things for the forum and e go really help you a lot.
If you check the Legendary members their posts, even the Hero Members and some high tankers, you go see say their posts them make sense, educative, informative and most importantly, merit worthy, and the reason for this na because them don dedicate themselves to reading and learning and that way, them get meaningful something to contribute to the forum wey fit earn them better number of  merits. So rather tha stressing yourself and hustling for merits, dedicate yourself to learning.

everyone seems to be taking this topic the wrong way, I never said I personally come up with merit worthy topics that never get merits. if you could read fully well the content otmf the topic I started you could try to see it's not really about me, it's my observation on the forum.
I see people post topics that really deserves merits, but they don't get merits but replies that aren't even related to the topic get merited under that same topic, so this is something that's worth talking about..
I really wished igebotz saw this , this way.

I've merited more newbies/low ranking members on this board more than high rank members- I'm more into quality and not rank. If OP improves I will review his accounts as well.

If a newbie creates a good topic and fails to receive merit then something must be up somewhere, it could be that the post doesn’t meet certain standards people want or such post have been made before by other members.

You cannot determine the quality of your own posts its only others that can rate the quality of posts and if they don’t see it worthy of being merited then they won’t merit it. If you want to feel discouraged here because you don’t receive merit on post you took time creating then I would say you are not ready to succeed in this forum. Merit and ranking up is not all the forum is about, it’s a place where knowledge is shared among members and as a beginner there is no better place to learn about bitcoin and cryptocurrency so my advice for you is to focus on learning first before thinking about ranking up and it will be more easier to rank up when you have acquired enough knowledge.

Just as Igebotz said, no one cares about your growth all that is important is to make good contributions to the forum and if anyone like your contribution them you will receive merit.

This platform is for knowledge not for growth, nobody cares about your growth and there are set of newbies that doesn't care about the merit system, just here to learn and to contribute organically. You're barely a week on this platform and all you care about is merit and rank? Well, your posts history isn't going to get you any unless you improve and learn.

You're in for a long ride, just be patient and enjoy...

The reason the majority of them merits those people that replies in the newbies topics, is because they are the ones responding to the question the newbies asked in that trend for other people to learn too not to ask the same questions another time in the forum.

But there are some people who will merit the newbies, if the topic added value to the forum but if the topic didn't add value to the forum, it will be hard for you to get merit because is not good to create topics for merits purpose. That is why some merits sources have created some trend to submit some topics or comments worthy merits and you will be merit op. I will encourage you not to feel bad whenever you create a topic and you didn't get merits, but those that replied or comments on the trend are getting merits from the trend than to find out the reason why and you will begin to see the reason that will make you to start displaying quality Post because people like to merit quality Post in this forum.

It's actually very sad and discouraging especially to us newbies but I believe that there is always a place for growth and that's one thing this platform is for.
I will be very glad to see a merit in my dashboard.
I just imagine how overwhelming it will be.

As for the matter of merit, I will site one simple errors new users or newbie keep repeating, don't think of being merited on this forum if you have gather enough knowledge of what you are about to share , let me shock you a bit, do you know that 98% of what you want to share has been discussed years before you joined the forum?. To be realistic with you, extra work is needed to get merited on the platform this days.

Don't be in a hurry to post, most of your post will start appearing like shit post without gravity to pull merit.

The question to ask yourself before posting is that will this post enlightened the old members who more versatile in bitcoins than me, or will it draw their attention to reward my concern for other new users in the house?.

Be rest assured that you will get merited with this little talk of mine.

I see no benefits proving such accounts. Not that if some persons were to settle down and find prove, they won't see. I just know how hard our country is and how everyone is managing to survive so this matter should just die as like I said nothing good will benefit anyone from exposing such accounts. I can still remember some funny things I see sometime on my notification bot, I see two different accounts posting same things but upon checking one has deleted it. I don't really care nor keep records as it's non of my business.. we should all just keep up our good work making nija board as good as those other locals even when we all know that this forum is filled with alts.

Just to let you know OP, creating a thread doesn't necessarily mean you will gain merit even when it is a meritable post, however the replies of users in some cases are more informative and valuable than the contents of the OP so don't think that by merely creating a thread that you are entitled to gaining merits from it. If you take a look at some mega threads in the general discussion board you'll see that the OP didn't get much merits but when you read replies of some users you will see that they are better more merit worthy than the thread of the OP so don't feel inferior or belittled when your posts don't get merits, perhaps we have few merit sources with little allocations so sometimes a post can be merit worthy but they may be out of source.
     
Moreover, if you are very observant you will understand that the local board moderator is trying as much as possible to circulate merits within the local board since he's more committed to reading members posts and replies, if he sees a post that is merit worthy he can easily identify it.

What do you use to qualify your post as worthy? This is a question I ask myself most times that is why I dont post because I want to be merited but I do post to offer my own opinion and contribution to any conversation I join. If it is worth it to any individual and he decides to merit it then fine if it isn't maybe i should have done better. Most people post having in mind that their post is worth meriting, while to others it is just a bag of trash written or not worth them meriting.

When we do something, we are supposed to let others appreciate us, not to hope to be appreciated because we think we are supposed to be appreciated by all means. Sometimes you get merited in the forum on posts you dont even expect to be merited.

It's speculations and one could only make assumptions - it's not a fact until proven.

Always a fight about merits🤦 I don't think this should be an argument.
Naija board has a lot of alts and merit cyclers but the truth is I really don't see much need arguing about it since it's in virtually every local board on this forum.

Sincerely quality of posts on our Naija local board has dropped for quite some time now and coupled with the ALTs every where it's difficult to tell a genuine newbie here that's part of the reason I haven't been an active merit sender here on this board.

I won't blame any alt farmers or merit cyclers here Since most local boards do too all I urge is for others to be given a chance ( the genuine newbies) and most importantly let's do our best to improve quality of our posts.

Then stop making assumptions - everyone is anonymous on this forum.. my target is to drop at least 1 merit on every profile on this local board and I'm close to achieving that.

It was two applications. The OP for English board while the other one that I posted was obviously for local board when I noticed we needed merit source also.

I do not have to be a local board merit source. You and Brainboss can now take care of that.

I would have been an active merit sender to Nigerian local board posters with no biases because I have no more account to grow and I dislike account farming or account selling. Also, merit has never been an issue for me since I have been on this forum.

Although, merit source for local board is no more in my mind while the one for English board may still be in my mind but it is fading already. It is now over 3 years.

You can not compare technical board to local board. Especially from what we have analyzed.

Funny how you skipped the main OP and only talked about the 5 local posts buried in middle of your application. I don't have power to recommend who becomes a source on the local board but if given the chance to, it's going to be really hard for me to vouch for you if your "sent merits" history remains this way. When it comes to taking decisions and deciding on what's good for the community I don't let friendship cloud my judgement.


I guess you know 99% of the profiles you sent merits to. Okay na.

Since Igebotz become a moderator and a merit source, he thought he has grown bigger and communicated the way he likes to someone. I am posting about what it is not on this forum. All because he thought that I attacked him but he was so self-centered and thought it was an attack. He did not think of it in a different perspective that he has become a merit source and no need for any argument but looking for ways he can make me become merit source so I can help others also. That was the day I started to know the true Igebotz. Although, I tried all my best to calm down to let him understand how truthful I was that I was not referring to him if he read what I posted very well.

Ranting about merit with who? People just do not like the truth is what I see about this. You do not want to accept the fact of what is happening. Like I have posted before, it was just an example. I think you are more serious with this because you are a merit source, but you are not the only Nigerian here. Before you posted, we have posted and make conclusion already and arrived at the end point as we all understood ourselves.

Igebotz, why all these today? I do not want to post that you are lying again. You were better than this before. You do not need to be giving wrong information. This was my merit source application for local board:

Re: Charles-Tim local board merit source application

Out of 10 applications, 5 posts were in English while 5 posts were in Pidgin. Even the last posts I counted among English was not totally written in English but Pidgin was included.

You do not know 99% of the profile you are sending merit to? Let us be realistic than making further analyses. .

Do you know what that means practically or in reality? I will like you to solve that puzzle.

You have just told him the bitter truth. because everyone has already passed through this situation as far as you have been in this forum for a long time, as a newbie to the rank you are now. Because noting good in life that comes easy, you have to put more effort on it so that you can get what you really want. But most newbies will see it like the higher ranking members are not ready to encourage them, but I won't lie, if they start giving merit to the newbies merits on some of their less educative topics, they will continue and they will not take it seriously, which will not improve the standard of the forum because they will find it easy to get merit without stress, but if you have to have strong knowledge before you can get merit, then they will be more serious to focus on the standard.

You no lie for diswan, another thing be say every body gets their bases for judgement and so dem no go think as you dey think, d topic fit dey okay but d way person use reply for sweet dem pass so dem go decide to reward d reply but den another person got come see d topic merit am too, if dis kain tin don happen to u, no dey discouraged, just continue to dey post dey go, maybe one time you go get post wey person go like den merit u, but go study hard so u go dey make post wey go sweet pipo well make dem merit u.

I'm not arguing with him; I'm just letting him know his flaws and the reasons why his application might not be accepted if he keeps making those basic mistakes and ranting about merits like some random newbies. Obviously, he cares more about the English board, which is why there are more English board posts in his application than our local posts theymos is not stupid. I've never been one sided and neither do I know 99% of the profile I sent my source to, I'm only sceptical about newbies as I don't want to be responsible for ranking up Alts accounts.

I've not received anywhere close to 30 merits on this board in the last 120 days, my posts must be really bad. Lol but who cares.

With all theses arguments, still no one could send op some merits.. it's obvious why he was angry and created the post In the first place. @ Charles-Tim and Igebotz, you are both bigger than these arguments, it's not showing good example on the local board. You should try and settle your differences. Merit shouldn't be a reason why people should start getting angry or one sided with each other. We are one family and one local board..

the only things I know I've noticed like I said in my other post is the merit distribution amongst members which obviously sometimes to some point looks like friends giving friends.. there is no prove about this so it's just a taught.. even if it's true, we should still stretch out our merits across other members of the local board, so it wont be obvious. Not just our local board, you check also see this in other local boards, where a member needs a good amount of merit to rank up and get into a campaign.. you see the bombardment of merits from different people just so he can rank up and apply. So it's just a thing not something that we should start arguing about.

I know exactly how you feel op, but this is not a New thing anymore. you know one thing about this merit stuff is that if you're curious to get merit definitely you won't get it anytime soon is going to come when you don't even expect it is just a matter of time and patient, just keep working hard  it will definitely get to your turn. There are some people who joined this forum and they were working so hard to get marit but on the  contrary no single merit that was given to them, and they decided to quit why most of them are still pushing because they know that some day they will definitely get marit.

Half of 32 is 16 and not 21. 32 merits equal to 16 smerits.

That is also not true. CryptopreneurBrainboss merited me the mosts. Although, him sending me merit reduced so significantly after our differences about English should also be allowed or not allowed on Nigeria local board.

If it is generally including English boards, I salute Upgrade00 and Coyster which are not also merit source but followed Brainboss. You have not sent half of what Upgrade00 sent while Coyster sent more than you.

Despite you become a merit source now, I still sent you merit in the past than you have sent me.


My only complaint was that theymos did not make me a merit source which you thought I was attacking you but I was only showing my mind to theymos. You were merit source already that time, but you saw it as an attack. You ought to know that theymos can not remove you from merit source. I did not expect you to think that way like one sided. I was disappointed with what you sent me that time because I posted I wish you to be the moderator on this local board in one or two posts that time when the difference between Brainboss and I increased but you only stayed not one-sided that time.

Aside that, I did not complain about anything. Except what you think now in this thread as a complaint. Actually, indirectly it could be but I was only using it as an explanation which is practical. But you do not need to post, all local boards are just like us. Not difference. Sentiment can be toward someone you like and know also. It happens everywhere in life.

I personally PM some of you when I started on this forum which I do not think is bad. Some of you are still my tight friends till now while some we have issues. But knowing you people actually helped me when I started. If I indirectly tell OP to try and get close to some of you, is that wrong or pushing him against the wall? I do not think so.

Let us stop posting about this. Just be sending the merit to quality posts which is what that matters. If you do not send me merit and you are a merit source, I do not still care.

Using merely one month's data from nearly a year ago reveals a lot; that same month, you sent only 21 smerits and received 32 merits in return, thus statistically you sent 0 and received more. You've only been on the receiving end, not the giving end. I've merited you more than any local profile on this board, but that's all because I'm just doing my job.

The only time I started focussing on lower rank members and stopped giving to high profiles was when you started indirectly complaining about merits, which I don't understand why someone with so many merits would still be ranting about merits. It's not like you need merit to enter a campaign or DT.

Someone of your reputation should know how to address lower ranks and not push them against the board.

Op I feel your pain, but the merit system doesn't works that way once you make a meaningful post that deserves a merit it most surly be merited by our high rank members so would advise you not to feel bad or discouraged when you see that your post is not merited, because as a newbie that have passion to rank up in this Bitcointalk forum once your are making post and your are not getting any merits from those posts your are supposed to know that you have to work more harder to achieved your goal instead of felling discouraged.

I do not have to further repeat myself. Read what Hatchy posted.

I thought you know how to do the stat. Or you intentionally want to give wrong information? What you posted is not true. My post on Nigeria local board is 18% in overall while 88% on English board. I have been posting on local board since May 2020 while I registered on this forum in March 2020. While I was not in campaign, I posted actively on this board. While I was in Bestchange and other campaigns that local board do not count, I was very active. Only few weeks that I was not active which was coincidental with when we were given local board. But I started posting again when I have the time.

I am posting over 220 posts per month. Having 50 posts after I joined Stake in a month makes it 23% posts on local board while having 77% of my posts on English board.

We are on this forum to learn from ourselves. At least, many Nigerians learn from my post as I learn from others but not quite often. It is not only about merit. My explanation on that is what that is going on to receive merit. It is an advice to OP. If he follows the advice which is the truth, he will receive merits and rank up.

These lies are getting too much. Have you now graduated to lying? Prove this with stat.

Not that I do not have good days here. At least there was a time I remember I sent merits very well like this: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.62987551. I only received 1 or 2 but not more than 2 from CryptopreneurBrainboss who sometimes send me merit despite our differences, while the remaining from Hugeblack which was over 25 merits that he sent me that month to posts on this board. No one on Nigeria board than Brainboss that sent merit to me that month. Hugeblack was the encouragement that month.

I saw some posts on this board that were implying they saw emotion about my posts on this local board. I was like this while posting on this board.

It is bold of you to believe that merits on the Nigerian board are awarded based on relationships rather than quality; that's allegations and you are aware of this, right? You make an average of 50 posts on the board per month, but you don't drop a single merit on 99% of those topics. I wouldn't say there are no quality posts because if that were the case, you wouldn't be making more than 60% of your posts here. Alternatively, you may not care about any profile here and are only using them as leverage to increase your posts quota.

More than 20% of your merits came from the local board yet your smerits sent to the local board is not up to 5%. You don't need to be a merit source to start distributing or doing the right thing.

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If your think the OP is doing something right you don't need to wait for me, you can merit him right away and if others see it that way, they would definitely follow your steps too. Quality posts do not hide for a longer time and that's fact.

Hey mate, I totally get your point as it can be really discouraging when you pour your heart to create something valuable only for it to be ignored especially when others are getting the attention that you thought was meant for you. But ask yourself these questions; are your threads valuable? Are they worth getting merited?

Look at your posts and then look at the ones that are getting merited and see if they are the same, I don't mean to discourage you the more but I just want you to know that you are doing well as a newbie in the forum but you need to sit up if you really want those merits, I also get frustrated at some point too but I know that I'm doing fine as a newbie. You are lucky you didn't get much criticism from the oldies because they don't like it when we (newbies) nag about not getting merits as no one is here to babysit anyone if you want something you work hard for it. Here's what I think you should be doing now for positive results (merits)

Be consistent.
Try as much as possible to engage more.
Make quality posts.
Visit the profiles of those that gets merit easily and study their posting style, no go copy from them o make you no go spam or plagiarize if not you go chop ban. Just learn from them.
You aren't up to two months here so stop nagging, try to read more and engage in different boards while you are reading, learning and listen to corrections. Good luck

I understand your feelings mate, but if all threads were awarded merits it will not looks good because the merit system was created to eliminate or reduce spam and low quality posts in this forum, and it has helped because every user now do consider the quality of the posts they will make before posting them to avoid been tagged as Spamer or to anticipate earning merits from the post to rank up; and that is why merits are used to determine ranks in the forum.

Another thing you need to know is that, the merits you are talking about is a reward for quality contribution to the forum, if your posts have educative content, and it help others in the forum, you will earn a lot of merits from the post, and we have few merit sources that do award merits, while other members need to have earned merits before they can also give out the merits; therefore, be patient and keep creating quality and educative contents, you will surely get merits.

First you are just a newbie with less than 20 activities and you are already complaining about how merit is being given, no get this forum wrong oo, the main purpose of the forum na the share reasonable knowledge about bitcoin and to discuss more about bitcoin, as a newbie wey you be you suppose engage more in reading, sharing opinions and making research about bitcoin and not complaining about merit for now. Well we all know the benefits of merit in the forum, maybe na why you de complain about merit already, but seriously I go advice make you forget about merit for now and focus on knowing more about bitcoin and how you can frequently engage in conversations with other and before you know it the merit will come.

For the Time wey i don spend for this forum one thing wey I know be say this merit something comes natural, you fit create post make you de think say this post suppose give u merit but at the end e fit give maybe 2 or 3 merit but when you get plenty knowledge about bitcoin na just reply you fit reply person post make people begin give you merit. Sometimes na one thing you go talk and people will believe you making research about bitcoin. We just want to see that you making effort about bitcoin so you can make this forum a better place.

There is no substitute for study. Through this every man can reach his ultimate goal. I think for most newbies it is very important to study more to familiarize yourself and make yourself experienced. Imitating seniors and understanding them and discussing new knowledge can greatly help you move forward positively. Tend to spend more time which can help you improve the quality of your writing.

Merit awarded in this forum is solely based on an individual's experience and knowledge. If you want to accumulate merit through your experience, then surely you deserve enough qualification from here. Merit is given only to those members who post good and informative posts that people can learn and benefit from. Also, you can't apply for qualification at will, but you have to acquire that amount of knowledge to qualify, then you will get merit. Also you should gather information about how to earn merit by spending time on forums, if people get something good from them then you will definitely deserve merit.

Well op don't feel bad, at first when i started too, I was feeling the same way but as time goes on and began to read others post ,there i saw that my best was not good enough, so I calm down and study more to get the real fact before posting, just keep trying and apply for merit at the mentioned source, you will get there gradually.

No be you go tell person the post wey him go merit. The topic wey you come up with wey you think say Na good topic for your eyes fit no be better topic for another person eye. Moreover you never can tell if the person get sMerit to give out. My advice to you is, if you are creating a post, just do it for the purpose of sharing vital and useful information/knowledge and not for merit purposes. Because e go shock you say that post wey you dey expect merit no go see one merit collect. Remove your mind from that side. Those reply that are getting merited fit pass more information than the post wey you create. But if you think say you don create better post wey supposed get merit and it's not merited, there are many threads here in the forum that you can report such posts for merit consideration. I think our moderator for this Local board also get him own thread were you can report such posts. No come make am look say na merit be your primary purpose of being here.

Merit may not be the main aim but it is a necessary achievement to mark out in the forum, you would not have been in this rank and put on earning signature  if you where never awarded good amounts of merit, yes it all came from your contribution to the forum. Being awarded merit is a virtue, a good sign that the user is making posts in standard to the forum, having little or no merit compared to the number of posts automatically puts the user as being a spammer or something likely.

Every one understands what OP mean because we all still need merits to celebrate new ranks, the only option is to keep foot still in keeping our discussions here of good qualities, definitely we me must surely grow past every rank.  

I understand what the OP is trying to say infact it's would be so frustrating and discouraging for newbies to make good contributions without seeing any rewards for their efforts (Merits) but then newbies should understand that merit isn't the priority of joining the forum, the main aim of the forum is learning, I'm aware that some newbies are very knowledgeable about certain things involved in the forum before getting here, but they still got to learn the do's and don't of the forum so they'll not get themselves in trouble. I also want to encourage the OP to keep putting more efforts to contribute to the forum in whatever way he can, in due time the merits would come but if he's not patient enough their is a thread here in our local board where he can submit his good post that weren't merited to be merit assessed, there's also one in the Beginners and help board.

OP, I understand how you feel, many of us don d in this kind of situation before that we begin to question whether we d make progress for the forum or not via making quality posts. Everything begin to change when we commot eyes from getting merits and focus on how to develop ourselves in providing information and given answers to peoples inquiries about bitcoin, then merits begin to fall on our side like water. I go advice you to do the same thing to develop yourself first for the forum. Get every information you need for your growth in crypto knowledge while merits come to you gradually as you provide answers to people's inquiries about crypto.

Ok I checked through Hatchy post as you said and I think his point is kind of valid generally it's found in all local board such merits politics not exclusive to the Naija board but maybe it's not that prevalent in our local board maybe why I haven't really noticed.
I am only using it to explain. You do not have to be emotional about my presence on local board by diverting what I explained to Gooner0 to me. This is not my thread. I did not create a topic about anyone or any local board. Merit habit on this local board is not what I am interested to post about.