Do people really need that kind of help just to stop gambling or control it?
Personally, I have been gambling since I was a kid with our local card games and yet, I never had the urge to do it like a habit.
Sure, they have a good goal in this platform they apply but an addict will always find his ways.
Just like your example, smartphones is a go to gambling device already, you just need internet.
They may have the numbers of sign ups but it doesn't really mean all of that did change or want change. It could be just for a day or two.
Topic: The self exclusion scheme, anyone have any experience regarding that ? - page 3. (Read 582 times)
April 06, 2021, 10:26:58 AM
April 06, 2021, 10:18:07 AM
The self-exclusion scheme can work if the gambler really wants to limit their money for gambling. But for a gambler who can not control themselves, they will break that thing and come back to play the game. That will not make that thing works because no matter how the site limits the gambler, the gambler will break and back to the game.
But that is good if people can try to block themselves from gambling and stay away from gambling because that is what they need to do. If they can do that, I am sure they will not become addicted to gambling.
if they are not addicted they wont use self exclusion tool but prevention is better than cure . But that is good if people can try to block themselves from gambling and stay away from gambling because that is what they need to do. If they can do that, I am sure they will not become addicted to gambling.
for addicted gamblers , applying a self exclusion tool will help test if its effective or not to controll their habit and if not ,
they can proceed in the next step and that is rehabbing their selves because in that place you wont have a chance to carry your devices or to roam outside .
this step works for severly addicted gamblers
April 06, 2021, 09:17:19 AM
The self-exclusion scheme can work if the gambler really wants to limit their money for gambling. But for a gambler who can not control themselves, they will break that thing and come back to play the game. That will not make that thing works because no matter how the site limits the gambler, the gambler will break and back to the game.
But that is good if people can try to block themselves from gambling and stay away from gambling because that is what they need to do. If they can do that, I am sure they will not become addicted to gambling.
But that is good if people can try to block themselves from gambling and stay away from gambling because that is what they need to do. If they can do that, I am sure they will not become addicted to gambling.
April 06, 2021, 08:37:36 AM
Yes, it all depends on your serious intention to really want to stop gambling because with a real intention it will yield good results.
Whatever the reason, if you don't really intend from your heart in any way you can still play online and offline gambling.
and you can do it yourself by:
1 Intention from the heart to stop gambling.
2 Approach yourself with God.
3 Change your mindset.
4 Gathering with Family.
5 Get along with good people.
6 Change your lifestyle.
7 Find a new hobby.
8 Work hard.
Whatever the reason, if you don't really intend from your heart in any way you can still play online and offline gambling.
and you can do it yourself by:
1 Intention from the heart to stop gambling.
2 Approach yourself with God.
3 Change your mindset.
4 Gathering with Family.
5 Get along with good people.
6 Change your lifestyle.
7 Find a new hobby.
8 Work hard.
April 06, 2021, 08:04:10 AM
I have my serious doubts about the whole system, if it would work or no. Since at the end of the day we have multiple electronic devices therefore excluding from one won't work.
As much as we may want to, we can't rescue someone who doesn't wish to be rescued! As you said, anyone can have multiple devices and mail addresses and continue to gamble after making that self-exclusion from the casino, or device/IP address... or anything...
All of the platforms, professional therapist, and rehabilitation centers are just tools to help you, but it is always on you whether you really wanted to change or not. So if you don't want to quit, no matter what you do, you're not gonna escape that addiction imprisonment you're at.
Can't agree more, the change must come from the inside! And any tool (even this one) can help in that, but they are not essential for quitting, you need to deal with yourself and start focusing on other life activities... and like that day by day until you put gambling (or anything else)
far behind you!
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The self exclusion scheme, anyone have any experience regarding that ?
I don't have any experience with any kind of quitting tool! I think I will never quit gambling, so I don't think I will ever need this kind of service. And if I change my mind about it, I will probably just quit, without creating some drama about it!
April 06, 2021, 07:34:27 AM
they should put an option to list more gadgets so that you can list the gadgets owned by your families and other people . in that way you wont have an escape but like you , my concern is their limited support .
edit; i found a program better than gamstop and says they have a worldwide support .
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Gambling Blocking software, such as Gamban, can be downloaded onto all of your devices, for the purpose of blocking access to 1000s of gambling websites and apps, worldwide.
https://gamban.com/blog/ban-yourself-from-online-gambling
thier website : https://gamban.com
But they could still buy another gadgets if they changed their mind, right? so the whole point here is not about sudden urge to quit gambling, it is should be about quitting gambling for your own good, for your family's sake, for you to be able to pull it. You can't have anything you wanted if you're not taking an action to have it, that goes the same on quitting your addiction.
All of the platforms, professional therapist, and rehabilitation centers are just tools to help you, but it is always on you whether you really wanted to change or not. So if you don't want to quit, no matter what you do, you're not gonna escape that addiction imprisonment you're at.
April 05, 2021, 10:22:45 PM
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What I want to talk about :
1. Is this something that really works ?
2. How did this actually sends a signal regarding the education system in place for the gamblers being implemented in almost every good gambling website ( Gamcare etc..)
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I have my serious doubts about the whole system, if it would work or no. Since at the end of the day we have multiple electronic devices therefore excluding from one won't work.
But I think this is actually a good stat since this means the education regarding the gambling is really working. Plus people are engaging in positive feedbacks.
^ For me, there are layers of things you have to consider to cure the gambling addiction of a person. And this will actually remove one of its layers. However, as mentioned there is a lot of it. One of the layer is, the person who has impulsiveness might have a bad experience in the past that made him or her traumatized, and the way he or she coupe with it is to gamble. On this part, it’s more psychological and the council is one of the solutions for it. Also proper psychological treatment and support. Nevertheless, it is only one of the reasons why people tend to be addicted to something and it is not limited to that. Cause if you do the self-exclusion, the addicted gambler will still do their best to find a way to access gambling, that’s natural. But making him conscious enough to make a difference in life is something different. What I want to talk about :
1. Is this something that really works ?
2. How did this actually sends a signal regarding the education system in place for the gamblers being implemented in almost every good gambling website ( Gamcare etc..)
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I have my serious doubts about the whole system, if it would work or no. Since at the end of the day we have multiple electronic devices therefore excluding from one won't work.
But I think this is actually a good stat since this means the education regarding the gambling is really working. Plus people are engaging in positive feedbacks.
April 05, 2021, 09:58:22 PM
This is pretty cool.
I've google it and found out that they are on Britain, mainly. I think it would be good if they aim to go worldwide so that many gamblers could use their service. But of course, their service will only works if the client would not cheat and is really dedicated on quitting his gambling addiction.
If I understand their service correctly, you have to register on their platform, give all the details you've used in any gambling platforms such as your email, mobile number, name, etc. and you'll choose how long you would like to be block in gambling and you can't undo it unless your blocking time is up.
The thing that the client could do about this if they get bored and can't handle it anymore is to make another email or use their family mobile number to make a new online gambling account. So it's pretty much useless to use GamStop if you're not serious about quitting.
I've google it and found out that they are on Britain, mainly. I think it would be good if they aim to go worldwide so that many gamblers could use their service. But of course, their service will only works if the client would not cheat and is really dedicated on quitting his gambling addiction.
If I understand their service correctly, you have to register on their platform, give all the details you've used in any gambling platforms such as your email, mobile number, name, etc. and you'll choose how long you would like to be block in gambling and you can't undo it unless your blocking time is up.
The thing that the client could do about this if they get bored and can't handle it anymore is to make another email or use their family mobile number to make a new online gambling account. So it's pretty much useless to use GamStop if you're not serious about quitting.
they should put an option to list more gadgets so that you can list the gadgets owned by your families and other people . in that way you wont have an escape but like you , my concern is their limited support .
edit; i found a program better than gamstop and says they have a worldwide support .
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Gambling Blocking software, such as Gamban, can be downloaded onto all of your devices, for the purpose of blocking access to 1000s of gambling websites and apps, worldwide.
https://gamban.com/blog/ban-yourself-from-online-gambling
thier website : https://gamban.com
April 05, 2021, 09:24:35 PM
Apparently due to the surge in gambling problems, there also have been surge in more and more people working towards registration for GamStop. There is a 21% increase in the same.
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2021/apr/05/number-of-gamblers-trying-to-block-themselves-online-surges
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What I want to talk about :
1. Is this something that really works ?
2. How did this actually sends a signal regarding the education system in place for the gamblers being implemented in almost every good gambling website ( Gamcare etc..)
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I have my serious doubts about the whole system, if it would work or no. Since at the end of the day we have multiple electronic devices therefore excluding from one won't work.
But I think this is actually a good stat since this means the education regarding the gambling is really working. Plus people are engaging in positive feedbacks.
It is going to be difficult to know if this actually works because not many are going to want to share their experiences of when their gambling went out of control, to me this seems like a feature that sends the right message but there is no way that it can accomplish its purpose, those that are really addicted to gambling even if they want to stop are going to have problems with it, after all if they only thing that they need to do in order to keep gambling is to open an account in another casino then this is not going to stop them, however it can really help those addicted gamblers that are recovering from addiction and stop them from falling into temptation once again. https://www.theguardian.com/society/2021/apr/05/number-of-gamblers-trying-to-block-themselves-online-surges
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What I want to talk about :
1. Is this something that really works ?
2. How did this actually sends a signal regarding the education system in place for the gamblers being implemented in almost every good gambling website ( Gamcare etc..)
•
I have my serious doubts about the whole system, if it would work or no. Since at the end of the day we have multiple electronic devices therefore excluding from one won't work.
But I think this is actually a good stat since this means the education regarding the gambling is really working. Plus people are engaging in positive feedbacks.
April 05, 2021, 09:08:19 PM
What I want to talk about :
1. Is this something that really works ?
1. Is this something that really works ?
It is all up to you. Even if all these programs, schemes, and features are not present, if you are really determined to minimize your gambling habit or even cut it off altogether, you can do it. Of course it would be easier and nice if someone is there to somehow assist in your plans and support you all the way, but if you are not really determined you might not stick to plans and sneak away from your program. So it is really up to you. If you want to stop, you will stop.
April 05, 2021, 08:27:07 PM
This is pretty cool.
I've google it and found out that they are on Britain, mainly. I think it would be good if they aim to go worldwide so that many gamblers could use their service. But of course, their service will only works if the client would not cheat and is really dedicated on quitting his gambling addiction.
If I understand their service correctly, you have to register on their platform, give all the details you've used in any gambling platforms such as your email, mobile number, name, etc. and you'll choose how long you would like to be block in gambling and you can't undo it unless your blocking time is up.
The thing that the client could do about this if they get bored and can't handle it anymore is to make another email or use their family mobile number to make a new online gambling account. So it's pretty much useless to use GamStop if you're not serious about quitting.
I've google it and found out that they are on Britain, mainly. I think it would be good if they aim to go worldwide so that many gamblers could use their service. But of course, their service will only works if the client would not cheat and is really dedicated on quitting his gambling addiction.
If I understand their service correctly, you have to register on their platform, give all the details you've used in any gambling platforms such as your email, mobile number, name, etc. and you'll choose how long you would like to be block in gambling and you can't undo it unless your blocking time is up.
The thing that the client could do about this if they get bored and can't handle it anymore is to make another email or use their family mobile number to make a new online gambling account. So it's pretty much useless to use GamStop if you're not serious about quitting.
April 05, 2021, 08:18:00 PM
I guess it should work if they do some extreme practices. The best example I could think of is locking a website via an extension (or via the router access, I'm pretty sure it's possible) then typing out a completely random password by smashing your keyboard. That'd be a permanent block imo. Light practices could also work, such as finding a new hobby that would take up majority of your time and you wouldn't really get bored of it. Could be games, could be studying, could be anything honestly.
I also seriously doubt the effectiveness of self-care gambling, especially if there are multiple online casinos that one can visit. It works at some bits, but if the person is a heavy gambler, they can seriously just find a way to access another casino, which is rather easy imo.
I also seriously doubt the effectiveness of self-care gambling, especially if there are multiple online casinos that one can visit. It works at some bits, but if the person is a heavy gambler, they can seriously just find a way to access another casino, which is rather easy imo.
April 05, 2021, 08:16:23 PM
What I want to talk about :
1. Is this something that really works ?
To some extent if may help gamblers in short term though.1. Is this something that really works ?
I will only assumed that minority are taking part on it, and then later they will get back to their old habits. At least, they will be given a chance by gambling sites to stop for the meantime. And then it's up to the gamblers whether they want to stop for good.
Haven't try self-exclusions, and I doubt that we can get the right numbers here as casino's might not willing to share it.
April 05, 2021, 07:22:54 PM
1. Is this something that really works ?
It should work as users can't access the gambling site for a specific period. However, it's only applied to a licensed gambling site and not at unregulated ones.
And as we know, some gamblers will just say, they want to stop but after a brief period, the eagerness again is there. Lots of ways to bypass those restrictions.
I have my serious doubts about the whole system, if it would work or no. Since at the end of the day we have multiple electronic devices therefore excluding from one won't work.
Regardless of the system if will work or not, it's now up to the gambler if they will really follow their initiative to stop or take a break from doing gambling.
At least, there are institutions out there that help people restrict their online gambling activity.
April 05, 2021, 07:02:28 PM
A self-exclusion order helps reduce gambling addicts' losses for a period of time set by the gambler!! However, it remains ineffective, because the player can return to gambling while the contract expires. This is why I recommend professional help as it is the best option for preventing addictions! Especially if you have the urge.
April 05, 2021, 05:14:41 PM
Never tried self exclusion but I want to say that it works in certain people since not everyone reacts the same after getting excluded, it might not be as effective as a professional help but it's a good step in stopping someone's addiction from developing. I've seen a few gamblers complain about their self exclusion experience here in this section but on other gambling subreddit I still see people make use of it when it's time for them to stop and go on a break.
April 05, 2021, 02:30:16 PM
What I want to talk about :
1. Is this something that really works ?
Such activities can be said to be an action or change that is wanted to be carried out in a modern way, such conditions are better known as "gambling complusive" which is influenced by hot sites, for example: currently there is a proliferation of online gambling types.1. Is this something that really works ?
Why this can happen, in fact the nature of gambling can lead to brain stimulation or addiction, at point number one in general, the risk of losing money that has been spent is not the main reason, however, the problem is another personal, difficult to explain, if addicted.
The effect is as you say no matter what people say and he does, the main thing is gambling, self-satisfaction, no matter what losses are incurred and whether they actually do or not.
April 05, 2021, 01:58:05 PM
See, an addiction like gambling is more dangerous than drugs, and when it's out of control, it can even become life-threatening. Now, if someone tries to block themselves from a gambling website through self exclusion, or account deletion/destruction whatever you call it, then it shows that there is 1% chance that the gambler is trying to leave gambling anyhow. Still, the main thing is, how strong is the will power and inner strength of that gambler is, to hold himself from getting back to the same route. If he actually gets control over his greed and makes up his mind that whatever he has, he will be happy with it forever and won't need anything else, then I don't think anything can stop him from leaving the gambling addiction completely and stopping himself doing it again.
April 05, 2021, 01:52:20 PM
Well many gambling sites,the reputable ones have a limitation which you can place to exclude your self out for a certain amount of time like 1 week or 1 month.Also you can exclude yourself when you exceed a certain limit.This is implemented in the casino site where you play but of course to go to a certain entity which deals only with such thing of course make someone feels better.It gives him the opportunity to stop and take a deep breath and then think coldly what he wants to do next.It seems so far to be working and I hope it continues to do so.
Yes I do know about it , recently I have to review a site and they are also adding such features everywhere. Which I do think is equivalent of professional help such as these but they are also limited since people can access other sites also.
But this is actually very good in my opinion since this shows how good it is not just for the company but for the people also and also "this shows that the companies are actually involved with people and care about them and not just their money"
But have anyone used it ?? What were your thoughts? Did it go as planned ?? But I think boundaries are themselves set by people therefore it can go even better of you control yourself.
Kudos to all these gambling sites !!
April 05, 2021, 01:41:57 PM
Well many gambling sites,the reputable ones have a limitation which you can place to exclude your self out for a certain amount of time like 1 week or 1 month.Also you can exclude yourself when you exceed a certain limit.This is implemented in the casino site where you play but of course to go to a certain entity which deals only with such thing of course make someone feels better.It gives him the opportunity to stop and take a deep breath and then think coldly what he wants to do next.It seems so far to be working and I hope it continues to do so.
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