Topic: The SportsBet.io Gang (Read 2078 times)

The evidence is available, I posted some just on the page before this one, which was originally a PM I sent to LoyceV asking if it was a problem or worth posting about:

I'd love to know what this data looks like today!

To get this same data but updated, or to see the problem, all one needs to do is use ninjastic.space, see how LFC and others like him from the sportsbet.io thread got their merits, from whom, what kind of posts were made (and think, are these actually merit-worthy posts), and there's the proof. Also, the trust ratings on each others profile - some have met sportsbet.io friends/team members irl, which just validates that it is a bit of a merit "circle jerk" (a bunch of friends who are handing each other merits for what otherwise would be considered shitposts, or at the very least, posts that usually wouldn't get merit).

No one wants to acknowledge it or doesn't care enough to do so (I'm not sure why no one important seems to care about a clear gaming of the merit system, either it really is unimportant to everyone or there is a bigger/more sinister reason...but I am not putting my head under that curtain as by doing so in other matters, I lost enjoyment and gained stress just by being here, now, sadly, I am more inclined to be inactive than active).

I don't personally care about the merits, I care(d) more about the clear gaming of the merit system and the fact that no one seemed to care about it, which I thought was a bit of a problem, as I believe that it opens the door to worse things that can be done either by sportsbet or the members who are benefiting from artificially ranking up their profiles and being perceived as HQ members down the line...all stemming from giving each other positive trust feedback for meeting "irl" or online, and getting merits from shit posting in a gambling thread with their buddies.

I think this problem will really turn into a shitshow when the positive trust rating left on each others profile become defaulttrust, which will make that most or all of that network green on the trust system.

inb4 the target redirects to me just for commenting on this thread again

Without evidence it's just a mere speculation.



Why are merits such a big deal to you, and why do you seem to be accusing a user of abusing them? Maybe having power as a DT member can be abused, but being a merit source can’t be abused easily, unless what you're saying about "under the table dealings" is true.

in exchange for bitcoin to get that source LFCBitcoin to send their signature campaign manager 100s of merits in span of 4 months?

seems legit in under the table dealings


seriously fuck off and go have a circle jerk each other off for merits

I don’t know what it is with Sportsbet.io but it seems good to have them making headlines which is good for them. One thing I find odd though is the light at which it’s often directed. Well, I wouldn’t expect anything much different from this thread as it’s title already speaks loud of what narrative it’s directed but,
I gamble on Sportsbet.io and even ran into issues due to withdrawal or even gambling with funds I already had on the site. I had to engage their live support and I can say, their support at the time was very helpful. They not only helped to solve the issue, they explained to me what the issue was, what actions I took to have caused this problems and proposed a way to avoid feature occurrences.
What was the issue?
Bumping fee to an unconfirmed deposit transaction. It gets flagged!

With this experience, it ain’t difficult for them to get a positive pilot study review from me. This is a share interest am sure to have with a couple of gamblers here and out.

Talking about pilot study, well, it ain’t entirely reliable and wether or not the company lets out some disclaimer on how this study is met, one has to trust in their abilities to participate in this review and relate it to what could be done from the other end which you know nothing of. It’s simply reviews and a lot of shillings operations are done on these in recent times. I don’t see Sportsbet.io in these shades but, I wouldn’t want to talk about that. However, the forum does a better job at it because, accounts to these reviews are readily visible and it’s a sticking your neck out in some way.

Not that long ago Trust Pilot was heavily relied upon by many individuals and companies but it lost reputation after it became associated with far too many fake reviews. It still can be a source of good genuine reviews but it will need to change in order to remain relevant. As you stated, it still has a degree of influence otherwise The irony is in the word trust.

Apart from members here, I am sure people use online searches to study whether Trust Pilot can be trusted and then probably end up deciding to not take it too seriously after realising how easy it is to manipulate the service they offer.

There are no such things as far as I know, and they wouldn't want to sound like they're not conducting sufficient checking to counteract false reviews, as they stated.They want us to believe that whatever is stated on their platforms is sufficient for everyone to make decisions; no own investigation is required.


The SB TP admin is quite active- not easy dealing with both legitimate and troll reviews.

I wasn’t trying to say that Trust Pilot is a legitimate source even though their global rank is very high. Sportsbet does reply to negative feedback at TP where players are legitimate and that is interesting to look at.

It has the most influence I suppose on users that may not be members of this community. Users that are new to Bitcoin and just looking around at places they might be able to gamble or something and they go check TP once they find a site. Most of us here know and realize, like the last few people have said, that 1 in every 20 reviews you read on TP are true and the rest are from competitors or paid people.

I haven't visited TP in awile, do they have a disclaimer anywhere stating that users should do their own due diligence? Not to blindly believe in a review they read?

I don't remember when I read real feedback on Trustpilot. It all came down to a bunch of fake reviews in both directions. Someone who is angry with a service can drop the rating very easily.
Although many say that Trustpilot is irrelevant, it obviously has a certain influence, otherwise, companies would not generate fake positive feedback.

If we comment about Trust Pilot then basically it means even though any review for any company can be genuine it also means any review could also be manipulated and be fake. That is why Trust Pilot cannot be trusted. I am not stating Sportsbet are behind fake reviews but even they were, they would not be the only company out there doing it.

Back to this thread, the OP claimed he created his "JCLadisav" alt-account to make unsubstantiated complaints about Hhampuz because he was scared of using he real account as he thought he would face hostile posts. That was the excuse he gave before.

After that there was no need for him to keep using the JCLadisav account but he continues to post about casinos while not using any of his real/other accounts.

Are people still taking Trustpilot ratings seriously in 2024? If you're looking for a site review, Trustpilot is the worst place to go because most of the reviews don't reflect the reputation of these sites, and most of the negative ratings come from competitors. You can easily manipulate reputable sites to your own preferences with only 50 emails and a VPN, not saying we should throw it out completely, but I wouldn't suggest anyone to rely exclusively on Trustpilot reviews before using any site.

Stake.come sitting on 3.8 tells you all you need to know about trustpilot reviews- everyone knows they're the most reliable casino out there.

How many people actually pay attention to Trust Pilot? How many other sites might be paying users to post fake reviews or make multiple accounts to make a fake review and boost stats?

I'm not saying this is what sportsbet does, but seems like the focus is on1 site when they all possibly engage in activity like this. People should check out the reviews here in their thread and check the reputation of the site reps, not believe bs ratings sites which can be manipulated to the moon and back.

Sorry for being a little off topic but this shows how Sportsbet works. Sportsbet had a Trustpilot rating of 1.4 prior to the last week. They added 20 five star reviews in the last week and are up to 3.3. https://trustpilot.com/review/sportsbet.io

DT is free to tag anyone
Merits sources are free to send merit to anyone
Want to quickly rise in rank? then post in the sportsbet thread, they have that power 

Has anyone been harmed? No, no one is harmed, but there are those who benefit

OP won't post this if all the constest of sportsbet.io in games and round board will disregard the requirements of only can participate the contest who joined the sportsbet.io pools.

I don't know sportsbet.io

But I know LFC and he merited me a lot in the wall observer and in some other threads... which are far from sport things...
I vouch for that guy any day.

What's the end result you hope to achieve, and how is it actionable by any of us? Negative trust for merit giving? If not that, then what?


If LoyceV doesn't care, then why should we?


I don't know who you're talking about here, and frankly I don't care, but if whoever was giving them merits found their contributions to the forum to be valuable, then they are using merits in exactly the way they were intended.


When an attack is just for the sake of harming reputation, it should receive the amount of respect it deserves, which is zero. I don't care about perceived transgressions regarding merits, especially when they come accounts without a reputation. The only time it bugs me is when alt accounts try to leech merits out of sources in the WO thread, but even then I'm not going to conduct an "investigation" into it. Really the main person you should attempt to appeal to is theymos, as he is the one who assigns merit sources.

You think you can tell people what to do and they'll listen. They won't, as you don't really have a reputation here. You obviously still have a lot to learn about the way the forum works.

Not really...FatFork's post was just the straw that broke the camel's back. It didn't matter whether I was right or wrong about a topic, there was bias that followed a lot of where I was on this forum. Obviously, I was too outspoken, I was stepping on some toes, people also criticized that I was getting paid to post and that I used that opportunity as a factor as to whether to stay here or not (ironically, while also being paid to post). I decided that I was not going to feed the untrue narratives that I could forming, ultimately leading to my existence in this forum being narrowed down to a "liar" by FatFork or a "troll" by icopress. I saw that I had two choices,
1. Defend my honor against these untrue statements against known forum gangs (and likely not have succeeded in doing so, right and wrong aside)
2. Just leave this place for a while, since it was becoming exhausting anyway.

I am grateful that I picked number 2. I needed a break from some of the nasty characters that still somehow dwell around here.

This aside. I'm going to say one more thing about this topic since it was quite significantly derailed. I still maintain that one who conducts a thorough look into ninjastic.space will find relationships between members in the sportsbet thread. If we deduct the sportsbet thread and these relationships from the merit equation, these members who just might even be or more ranks behind where they are currently if it weren't for the merits shared in that thread. I think there is gang-like behavior there, probably external connections as well, and I don't think that's a baseless comment to make based on the information that's readily available to anyone.

So, why not post my own investigation, as you suggest earlier nutildah?
1. My credibility was already under attack. Even with a large amount of proof, I'm sure these members would have found a way to derail the investigation into something against me personally.
2. I am convinced that there are powerful members who collude with those who have interests with casinos like sportsbet. Even with a large amount of proof, I'm sure these members would have also found a way to derail the investigation into something against me personally.
3. Due to the above, my efforts would not have been a waste of time, however it would have added to exhaustion.

On the other hand, I think a member like yourself could have conducted this investigation, you'd not have to worry about point 1 and 2. Maybe point 3, depending how many people actually care.

Instead, the thread was derailed.

Anyway. I (kind of) digress. TLDR: I left because this place at the time, it was exhausting. With that in mind, I'm making a conscious effort not to participate in the fight for what I think is right in this forum, stay away from forum drama where necessary, and avoid interacting with energy depleting members who are exhausting to go back and forth with...to the best of my ability anyway. I don't think I'll be active enough for any of this to even matter anyway, though I thought I'd leave my closing statement. Hopefully, it's a closing statement.


It's not really the same circumstance. It's not about one isolated post like what you have made there, it's more about few members saying short responses that no one would normally merit, and the same people meriting them. A circle, if you will, that exists over time within one thread and between certain people.

I guess I should just stop being ambiguous and share the DM I sent well before this thread ever existed.


It spans 800+ merits and that is just involving what's been given to one user. Without these merits, he'd be a Hero member, and at the point of legendary...he wouldn't even be a senior member. Again, this does not include the other members who are a part of this "gang".

I don't think there's a need to be condescending, you're capable of seeing it for yourself, it almost seems like you are choosing not to. Either way, you've made your position clear. So how about from now forward we leave this here and let third parties (people who have not already posted in this thread) give their opinion?

I'd appreciate if anyone wants to talk about me and my reputation that they go and make a thread in the rep board instead of continuing that discussion here too.

If you want to define quality, when it comes to individual perspective, you clearly can’t! Just let that not ache your head. While going over the forum yesterday, reading what I could, I saw a user post;

“Go fuck yourself, you’re a piece of shit” or something like that. Don’t want to quote the post excerpt am moved to but, it got merited! Now, you’ll ask yourself how is that any quality post? It’s just a line and nothing more! Yet, it got merited by a high profile and the posts was between one high profile to another.

You really don’t get a say on that! Someone is probably having fun with what he or she sees and if it’s enough to throw some of those Smerit there, then it’s okay. If participants in sportsbet.io decides to do some meriting in their thread, you ain’t going to do nothing of it.

Be sure I get my invitation else, am going to hodl all my Smerits.

Gee, 3 whole merits given out across 2 sportsbet.io posts. I didn't realize the problem was so serious. Clearly this is an egregious violation of forum law and the charges could very well result in imprisonment. I'm going to write a letter to my local congressman right away. I have just one question for you:

Have you tried crying about it?