Topic: The SportsBet.io Gang (Read 1281 times)

I'm not sure you understand what the word "baseless" means. It means there is no basis upon which your claims can rest. You did not do the slightest bit of any research whatsoever, which means you could not present your fictional research in a manner that would support the base or basis of your claims, which means your claims are baseless. Instead, you just said, "if you look here and here you will come to the same conclusion I did." That means there is no actual basis for your claims.

Try harder or prepare to be ridiculed yet again.

Look, your lying is old news. But exposing you never gets boring.

Caught red-handed, as usual:


https://archive.is/0laka

The topic was posted on February 26 (the same day you left the campaign, btw), but you updated it a week later (March 4), which means that your claim that you left the campaign because you are taking a break from the forum is actually a lie.

As for the "promise" of 100 posts per month, the topic title itself says: "$2.5/post or $250/month". Do the math.

The application was edited to "removed" not long after it was posted, which is when I made the decision.


This was posted on February 26, when I still intended to be active in the forum, weeks before I decided officially to take a break. Also, that thread did not promise at least 100 posts per month. All it did was state my average amount of posts since in the last year.


I've explained my way of thinking multiple times when it comes to signature campaigns. You both choose not to understand it, and default to the label of hypocrisy. I refuse to indulge in this comment further as I know that you are only making this post to get the same response as you have when you have made it in the past.


They're not baseless though...Just have ninjastic.space open on one monitor and the sportsbet thread open in another, and look at the flow of merits between the most active participants over the last 20+ pages. You will see that very low quality posts are frequently merited there, and that is only one sign of the abuse that is surrounding the sportsbet.io brand and fan-base. If you look for a while like I have, and extend your searches into trust pages, you'll end up with a network of members who have helped each other to rank up at an expedited rate in comparison to a member who actually contributes value to the forum.

Though if you aren't interested in doing that and you want to conclude my opinions are baseless (ironically, with no proof of them being baseless), sure.

Definitely doesn't matter if they're cycling the merits for themselves but I think that what OP is trying to say is that it's a bit unfair that the merits are not fairly distributed to other users that are outside of their clique, at least that's what I believe this is what it means. I guess, the merit sources should up their game if they don't want people like OP to be starting this kind of thread and to you OP, maybe the reason you're not getting the merits or you feel like the merits are distributed unfairly is because you're not posting what qualifies to the people that give merits as quality posts.

WO is a forum of it's own, there's no way to describe how that works.

With the offer he made to promote signatures it seems clear he did not intend to take a break, only he can explain the discrepancy in his statement but if we are being honest it will not have been the first time he has sent out conflicting messages. I could never fully work out why he would have a particular anti-agenda against the number of members and companies he chose to post about. Furthermore, the hypocrisy about what he would not promote and why, followed by the completely opposite course of action.

Are we surprised?

Did everyone receive invitations for Sportsbet gang annual special meeting yet? 

I am going to propose free gang membership to all BSFL participants because we must have growth and not stagnation.
From next season we are introducing paid membership only

Well, not really. Whatever the reason for your leaving the campaign, that was maybe a convenient excuse, but not the truth.  You applied to a new one just a few minutes later, and we all know inactive accounts don't participate in campaigns.  But to make your claims sound even more ridiculous, you even created your own topic offering your signature space and "promising" at least 100 posts per month.  How would you be able to do that if you were planning on "taking a break from the forum"?

Because you're not doing that, you're throwing a lot of baseless accusations around and slighting individuals and entire companies without really having the first clue what you're talking about. That's the main problem. Nobody is going to interfere with your right to do that here, but you don't get to remain free of judgment or criticism; that is also our right to point out when what you're saying is wrong, contradictory, or simply doesn't make sense.

I quit my signature campaign because I was taking a break from the forum. Not the other way around.

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I'd also like to add to my last response here.

I'm not that committed to a forum dominated by people like JollyGood and the likes.

If the forum community was one that I loved, I might. Though there is a lot about this community that make me only like it, not love it.

I didn't chime in on the other thread because I've witnessed what is being discussed in this thread first-hand and did some digging months before this thread arose. In essence, I was saying "Hey, I've seen this going on as well". I'm not sure how that is a problem?

You are literally wasting your time with him. Hopefully he will fade away in to a permanent absence now that he is no longer in any campaign.

What are you trying to do here? Either you are genuinely raising a concern about something you feel strongly about or you are effectively trying to tarnish the reputation of a brand for reasons not yet known. The way you conduct yourself it seems obvious to be the latter.

Did you ever complain about the number of merits sent and received by other members? Will you be able to find any example of merits being sent/received by certain members which you can use as a comparator to make a case for your allegation? Where is the evidence?

Do you realise nutildah has contributed far more to this forum than you could ever dream of? Of course you do, yet you still make assumptions about him simply because he pointed out the agenda that seems to the driving force behind you.

I do not have the privilege of having enough time to fight uphill battles. I give a shit enough to chime in. I do not give a shit enough to get into arguments with tens of members who are fighting on the other side of the truth.

I did not chime into the other thread because I haven't personally observed it, nor have I taken the time to investigate it. LoyceV can vouch that I had investigated this situation long before this thread was ever created, and I came here to share that I see where the OP is coming from because I have seen it first hand. What do you want me to do, make a thread? Who will actually give a shit since majority of DefaultTrust are corrupt or silent because they don't want to be attacked by the corrupt DTs?

I'm also not sticking up for the OP. I am only sharing that I have had the same observation long ago, and that there is legitimacy to his claims.

Theymos owns the forum and he allowed the creation of new accounts to speak on sensitive matters. You can have your own views for which no one gives a fuck about, including me.

Posting from the main account matters, why? So that you can attack the account with your friends? Lol, that's the exact reason of using a throwaway account.

Guys like you are those who don't credit newbies and scratch the back of reputed members even when they talk BULLSHIT.


10 years on forum? You have NOT done any favors to anyone expect for yourself by earning money posting shit like this.



Someone wearing the signature of SHITCOIN is sad about people talking SHIT lol

You don't give a shit enough either, otherwise you would be conducting said investigation. Your post is just as useless as this thread. Besides, you missed the fact that OP already started another thread. Why didn't you chime in on that one? Its quite obvious OP works for a competing sportsbook and is just trying to shit on as many other casinos and campaign managers as possible. And you're sticking up for him. Well done.

The OP is not making up entirely false claims so i dont think that outburst was really warranted to be honest. If this all upsets you so much, stop looking and don't waste the time that you're taking to type your tantrum?

Even I have noticed the fuckery going on with the users mentioned in the OP and the sportsbet thread over 6 months before this thread. It's not a myth, you can see the circle jerking clearly on ninjastic and through a deep look of the trust system. Proof is there, though seems like you choose not to pay any attention to those important details for some reason

There is something that could genuinely something be investigated here if there was anyone in DT who first and foremost gave a shit, was committed to protecting the integrity of this forum, was 100% not corrupt or influenced in any way by forces like sportsbet, and not fearful of tue slap they might receive by members like yourself, who for some reason always assume and defend 100% innocence for accused parties.

TLDR There would be a legitimate investigation here if anyone gave a shit enough so in my opinion, your post is both uncalled for and invalid.

This is at least your second account made for shit talking purposes, is it not?

Fuck you and your big nothingburger of a thread.

If you had one singular functional testicle you would have posted this nonsense under your main account.

Go fuck yourself.


Sorry to everyone else but after almost 10 years here I just can't stand shittalking cowards.

This negative feedback for instance, blindly trusting whatever SB says and giving feedback based on that.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=3534812

If jeremypwr is not an employee, he surely doesn't know who is lying and what exactly happened and hence should not give out red trust to users complaining.

Returning the deposit is not good enough in most cases because then it's a free bet for the website. If won, they will return deposit and if lost, the bet stands.




Don't assume

I can assume Patrick Mahomes doesn't get paid by Chiefs doesn't make it true.

I'm with you on the merit dumping not being a big deal. Also, giving each other trust isn't that big of a deal either. One thing that I'm against is giving people negative trust for the sole reason of not agreeing with an opinion. It's "trust", not opinion. That was the second claim of the OP.

Lookin at the OP's link and to be clear, I'm not talking about any negative trust given out by holydarkness since that would be warranted. I respect holydarkness.

I'm coming very late to this topic by chance, hardly check reputation section but I saw Sportsbet.io mentioned.

And I kinda expected to see one username mentioned, because jeremypwr manages a lot of giveaways but I seriously doubt he's an actual employee, and it never crossed my mind to see such an accusation when clearly, in many other megathreads merits are just dumped all on daily basis, why is that a problem? I can give it to whoever I want, if I think it deserves my merit. I'm sure these users do the same.

Personally, I know LFC_Bitcoin and buwaytress also for years, if they are Sportsbet employees I will eat my BTC wallet seriously. These guys are the most helpful people, years ago I personally got help for nothing from them, education, yes even merits to help my account grow. I know for sure they still run competitions and community events for not getting paid, buwaytress also a very outspoken member of all services here. I've 100% seen him criticize Sportsbet.io and in fact for years you can even see he runs pools for RIVALS of Sportsbet.io

Why would an employee do that??

To my best knowledge they're not even getting a cent paid for their work on this forum. People should be grateful there are people like these spending their time for free to make the forum a better place. Instead, they get accused on threads like this.

We need to recognize contributions but people seem to spend more time looking to take people down. Crazy.

Kinda my point though, people distribute it however they want basically. Aside from selling it, anything is pretty much allowed with merit.

Of all the arguments in this thread, the marketing of the jackpot is the only thing that IMO should have been done differently, but either way I do not feel anyone is at risk playing there.

They spend tens of millions on sponsorships in the Premier League, but somehow it got stuck that the disputed merit distribution is in their thread.
As far as I know, the amount of merit distributed in the Sportsbet ANN thread is almost insignificant compared to WO (which is more meaningless), but that is another story that has already been discussed.

What's the end goal here? Accusing the site of merit abuse is a bit absurd as I have already stated, the red trust might need modified as far as the reason, and then an added accusation of poor marketing.

The marketing thing, I haven't looked at the back n forth if someone wants to link me to it i'll be happy to read it. Regardless, at worst a bad use of marketing but still not scamming customers.

Far as I've seen on the scam accusations, sportsbet has tried resolving quite a lot of those. You can't honestly believe that every accusation that pops up against a site is legit. Do you feel that playing on sportsbet will lead you or other customers to lose their money? Do you think the site won't pay legitimate players?

I don't feel like players are at risk at this point so I don't see the reason for this thread.

Even if he is a merit source, the only "rule" we publicly know of in relation to merit sources and their source merit distribution is that they aren't allowed to sell merits. They can distribute it any other way as far as I know. Every merit source decides for themselves what they spend their merits on. It should be quality posts, or any other posts you find pleasing for whatever reason.

Short version of OPs misleading marketing claim. Sportsbet falsely claiming that they paid WowPot instead of Global Gaming. This is an easy one. Individual casinos NEVER pay out WowPot’s since the money isn’t theirs. The money belongs to Global Games. All kinds of evidence, pic and links above. I’m not looking to hurt anyone’s reputation by documenting. I don’t even know how it works here. That’s for the OP to run with although may have to do something if my stalker comes back. I just explained what happened, since I was mentioned in the thread, with Global Games paying out a jackpot after doing extensive verifiable research.

Yep, and I really wish OP would go back and edit that to show the usernames instead of just posting a link to the members' merit pages.  That makes a lot of extra work for anybody who's curious enough to click on the links like I did.

I haven't read this entire thread yet (and probably won't, since I'm not interested in this particular drama), but unless LFC_Bitcoin is a merit source--which might well be the case, as he's one of the top recent merit senders--he can do whatever he wants with his sMerits.  But in his particular case, he's earned so many merits from his own posts that I don't think it's a big deal at all that he sends merits to posts that might not be substantial. 

What I don't like to see is negative feedback from members regarding issues that have little to do with someone's trade worthiness, and looking through some of the links here I did notice some of that.  But as long as the members who left such trust (like nutildah) don't have a habit of doing it, there's no reason to take any action.  So I'm not seeing a lot of wrongdoing here.

It doesn’t matter to me what you do with the information. I’ve been here 10 years and I’m not making false allegations. Logically it’s insane to think that Global Games is going to hand out $38,000,000 from the $2,000,000 seed money they put in plus all the money from other casinos and give it to Sportsbet to pay in USDT installments.

I’ve done a ton of research. It’s not Sportbet’s money. The money belonged to Global Games. The individual casino NEVER pays a WowPot.

Well, I still disagree with your judgment. Why don't you just contact Games Global for an official statement before accusing someone of lying based on speculation and unverified information?

Games Global owns the Microgaming slots. Look at the article I posted. The player won on Wheel of Wishes. There are no assumptions. I wouldn’t do that. I looked for duplicate sources before making an accusation.

One article was dated Jan. 4, 2024 on lump sum. It’s in the other thread somewhere.

Not only did I double check, we can also think of it logically. Games Global has the €2 Million seed money plus what’s collected from all the casinos. They aren’t giving that to Sportsbet to pay in USDT installments.

Edit, my linked article was updated Jan. 26, 2024. It’s current information. I read a ton of articles on these slots after Steve and Jeremy implied that I was wrong. It was Wheel of Wishes progressive slots.

I started posting at BCT in 2014. I’m not going to falsely accuse on something that can be so easily checked.

But I don't see how that's relevant. Even if the information is correct (it's not from an official source as far as I can see), Microgaming is not affiliated with Games Global Limited or part of the "Games Global" brand. Moreover, on the official website, you can find information that Microgaming has sold its distribution business and online games portfolio to Games Global Limited in 2022.  
https://www.microgaming.co.uk/microgaming-closes-acquisition-of-distribution-business-and-games-portfolio/

So it seems that you are making accusations and jumping to conclusions based on outdated information that may or may not be true.

I did post a link some posts above and in the original Sportsbet thread but the article is very long and tough to see lump sum payment.



https://kingcasinobonus.uk/online-casinos/microgaming-casinos/

Not only is it a lump sum but they didn’t pay in USDT.

But again, how did you get that information, or is it just your assumption?
I still don't see any proof of your claim, and you accuse Steve and Jeremy of lying without any valid evidence.  Don't get me wrong,  I have no affiliation with SportsBet, and I'm not here to defend them. Rather, I simply seek to reach a reasonable conclusion.

People were asking in the thread who paid. I then decided to search it to answer them. I posted that Games Global paid.

Then Steve and Jeremy came in and said that it was Sportsbet and they are paying in USDT installments after people asked about it being on the blockchain. After some back and forth, I sent a PM to Jeremy and told him I know it’s a lie. Just let it go because I don’t want to keep picking on Sportsbet. He then stopped.

https://kingcasinobonus.uk/online-casinos/microgaming-casinos/

How do you know that WowPot progressive jackpot winnings are paid out in one lump sum? There is no such information in the official announcement by Games Global:
https://www.gamesglobal.com/Media/games_global_progressive_jackpot_wowpot_pays_out_38_4_million_eur

It’s not wording, it’s intent. Steve said it's being paid out in installment payments in USDT by Sportsbet. It's not true. It was paid in one lump sum by Games Global. There are a lot of scam accusations against Sportsbet as well as a credibility issue.

Seems like you're doing a lot of nitpicking about nothing. They don't owe you any information that could potentially be used to deanonymize the winner.

Don't know why you are backtracking from this, which was a much more reasonable stance:


Sure, they may not have technically been the ones paying out the amount to the winner, but the winner had an account on Sportsbet, and its not wrong of them to want to use the event for promotional purposes. You can argue that they should have worded it better, and we all learned something about how the Wowpot works. Continuing on complaining about how the payout was conducted is a waste of time and kind of creepy. They don't owe you any further explanation.

Games Global made the payout in Euros. Games Global starts the pot off at €2 MILLION . Then there are multiple casinos that contribute to the WowPot through casino play. The player hit the WowPot at a Sportsbet. Games Global takes €2 MILLION plus all the money contributed from multiple casinos and paid the player approximately €38.5 MILLION. Sportsbet has nothing to do with paying the player after the jackpot is won. Steve and crew said that Sportsbet was paying the player $42m USDT in installment payments. He said that after I posted there is no transaction on the blockchain for that amount. I'll post links.

https://www.gamingintelligence.com/products/casino/185955-games-global-pays-out-record-e38-5-million-through-wowpot-jackpot/

https://www.btcgosu.com/blog/news/record-breaking-wowpot-jackpot-e38-46-million-payout/

Steve says
but those are Microgaming slots that are always paid in full. It was paid in Euros, not USDT as Steve claimed.

Steve


The point is that Steve and crew kept lying. When it got to the point of posting that there is no transaction on the blockchain, Steve then went to the payments were being paid by Sportsbet in installments in USDT.

OK and the payout happened through which casino? On which website does the winning party have an account?

I did notice that you questioned the payout. LFC seems like an honest guy that was confused at first. Steve, Jeremy and notblox outright lied about the payout after being shown a link multiple times. Those three kept trying to convince us.

Not surprising. I'm surprised I wasnt criticized by them after I critiqued the promotional thread they made about it.


Well, it didn't take much digging to see potential merit abuse and possibly paid shilling was going on by Sportsbet and whoever is on its payroll. It's still something that one can't confirm until there are conversation logs or a form of immutable evidence, like blockchain analysis (which, is possible, but not a small task...happy to complete it if there is a lot of interest)

If you go on Ninjastic space and look at the merit history of those who are regularly in the sportsbet thread receiving merits, you'll see a lot of obvious farming going on in that thread.

Someone should do something about that little syndicate, I doubt anyone will though. The power structure here must be broken, because there are seemingly obvious cases like this one, though no one seems to even talk about it...and if they do, it's a member who isn't powerful enough to spark a change.

Ever since I posted that Sportsbet is falsely claiming to be paying a WowPot winner in installments payments, notblox has stalked me. Don't take him serious. I don't take money for ratings. I'm willing to discuss the reasons for the ratings with anyone.

This is what notblox said to me after I pointed out that Sportsbet didn't pay the jackpot out in installment payments as Sportsbet claimed.  Games Global paid in one lump sum. Jeremy, notblox, Steve all attacked me and kept posting false information and false press releases even after I showed them articles that it was paid in one lump sum by Games Global.





Ever since I posted that Sportsbet is falsely claiming to be paying a WowPot winner in installments payments, notblox has stalked me. Don't take him serious. I don't take money for ratings.

Steve, Jeremy, LFC and notblox all posted incorrect news saying Sportsbet is paying $42,000,000 USDT jackpot in installment payments. Steve, Jeremy and notblox kept up with the charade by posting fake press releases after I showed them that Games Global paid in one lump sum.

This is what notblox said to me after I pointed out that Sportsbet didn't pay the jackpot.

Finally someone talking sense

If sportsbet was telling people to send merit or make a post in their threads it's one thing, if they aren't then it's fine.

Honestly I could care less as it doesn't mean shit to me 1 way or the other. Just giving my opinion. Everyone has their own opinion on the situation. Feel free to post and see what others think. Maybe you have something, maybe not.

It might be allowed but it definitely should not be.

Imagine if there are shady practices that happen in the gambling company, a new member goes to complain and the *gang" who are blindfolded by the payments that they receive from their master, attack legitimate complaints and claims?

This is where incentivizing posts within the same thread that the employer is running, goes wrong.

Then you add merit into the mix, people are able to/see that joining this circle jerk gets you ranked up faster, adding to the blindfolded numbnuts in the thread.

It shouldn't be allowed.

If I remember correctly, I contacted LoyceV about this 6-12 months ago, asking if it was worth posting about several members meriting each other in the Sportsbet thread. I ended up deciding against it temporarily, though I am glad the OP has pointed things out. I'll be sending him my research soon too.

They work for that casino and now they applaud any good feedback on their thread. Now if any user has a complaint against them then that user can post about it with proper proof. Since they work for this casino then it is their responsibility to be active in the community and try to build their goodwill in the community. Each member can use their merit as they wish, unless they misuse the merit system.

It’s their merit that they acquired through their constructive post. They have the every right on how they will use it on who will be the receiver as long as the post is constructive on their own preference.

The users that you posted here is obviously working for the casino so it makes sense why they focus most of their activity here in the forum on the thread of their brands they are promoting. I’m not sure what’s the difference here on giving merits on wall observer thread or on merit thread which we all know as place for merit from merit source.

Merit is not moderated so no one here will question even you on how you will spend your merit.

Another month secured in SB/LC campaign, I don't mind you


Stupid to think but easier to open the thread, open your eyes and see it. But I know you cannot see anything wrong with that because you are feeding your family off the campaign.


So listing casinos by taking money is retarded but spending merits to attract more replies on SB thread is godly behavior. Got it.

OP stinks so much and I know for sure he is a member of Altaccount Gang, worst gang that ever existed in this forum and it is full of weak cowards.

It is so stupid to think that members need merits or something else so much that they would write all the time in Sportsbet thread.

Even more stupid to refer Peeps Place, member who was taking money from all casinos to put them higher in his retired ranking list  

A persons merit is theirs to do with as they please pretty much. There are a few shady things IMO such as meriting your alt to rank up, or meriting your alt to cheat in some sort of contest, or selling merit. There really have not been any rules introduced regarding merit.

Sportsbet.io is not telling people who open a thread to give merit I doubt. That is solely on the person giving the merit. Honestly, they (sportsbet) prob doesn't give 2 shits about merit. The people running the giveaways are just saying thanks for participating IMO.

Look at the people getting the merit. Look at their post quality. A few of them are probably only posting in the threads you mention because they can get a merit. They are trying to rank up asap in order to hit legendary rank to get max pay from here. That is not the fault of sportsbet either. The person running the thread is just trying to be fair across the board and if they give merit to 1 they will give to all.

Why do you care? You post from an alt account for fear of retribution? If you are going to accuse, you should have a spine and do it from your main. If you are mad you're not getting merits from your main account, then post in these threads I guess. Either way, no reason to go off on a site for something that's nothing.

Most times what people count as something meaningful is actually nothing take upon but, wait a moment is it now a crime for people in same campaign to give out merits?
Is is it now a crime for people talk about sportbet.io sister site as you said?
If you must know I don't think only sportbet.io does that you can check most of the nice campaign out there you can see for yourself so why being jealous of what you know that doesn't add or remove anything from your health and state of well-being?
Don't you think you need something more better to engage yourself with?

Yeah, everyone should give you a flower for speaking, and anyone who chooses the opposite path is a puppet bought by SB. Something a competitor can do.

You gave yourself out from your first sentence. Now this is a meme thread.

If it happens once, twice or even 10 times maybe not. But if everyone who posts in a thread is getting merited, then yes, it's a problem.


Maybe, maybe not. I am discussing about LFC and few others though.


I cannot expect much from a puppet wearing their signature  

Another month secured in the campaign for licking their ass


Justifications given by intellectuals so far to defend the merit abuse

1. They do a lot of giveaways can't you see that
2. You are a competitor fuck off

No, Sportsbet.io is using several high winning tickets to dominate the forum. Fixed it for you.

I have never had an account there. They don't accept players from my country.

Are you going to make a topic about every site? If I get a merit from someone for posting my opinion in a stake thread, then stake is illegally incentivizing me?

When a person is hired by a manager, that manager is NOT allowed to tell users to post in certain threads. They're not allowed to say post in the company's announcement thread or promotions threads. I think people should try to support a company that has hired them and help keep their topic bumped, but I have never tried to require it for users. Companies have to follow the rules of the forum. People generally post in threads where they have an interest in the subject. Now, there are a few douchebags out there who are chasing a merit and see if they post in a certain thread they have a high chance of getting merited, but it's not illegal for them to do so.

Sportsbet.io is doing nothing wrong IMO.

Time to address some valid questions.


That's exactly what people are doing. People who were not posting in SB thread are now regularly posting to earn merits for free.



They are not giving each other the merits. The merit source who can generate unlimited merits is sending out way too many merits to ANYONE RANDOMLY posting in SB thread.



The giveaway of merits to anyone who posts in SB thread.



So doing giveaways give you the leeway to break the rules or play around it?


I am not questioning his contributions. Only showcasing his shady practices.



If you have nothing valid to say please avoid. Assuming things in your defense for SB looks horrid.



Oh it's not in the scam accusation section, is it?



Go collect your free bets bud, you have done enough

Here's that attention you ordered OP:














On what site was the winner playing when they won? Where was the player's account hosted? You are attempting to frame things in a way they are not, which is basically lying, and ironically the very thing you are complaining about.

If you had something genuine to say, you would have done it from your main account.

I don't care who you are, you know what you're doing can't be justified. FWIW, I don't believe that you are actually dumb enough to think that it is, but I do believe you have an ulterior motive.

Just recently shared one thread above link you mentioned about merit assessed of fillippone thanks acroman08

it's not, you are just basically asking them to review your post and if it deserves merit or not. in the end, it will still be up to them if the post you shared on their thread is worth giving merit or not. also, as you can see the thread has 60 pages, if it was against forum rules that thread will either be locked or deleted.

@OP sorry if this post is off-topic

if you have unmerited posts that you think deserve to get merit, there are some members who created threads specifically for that, you can find them on Beginners & Help board.

here's one from Fillippone
[Merit] Share your best posts/threads with Fillippone to be merit assessed


Isn't it will noted as violating a forum rule aint it?

while that is true, in the end, it is still up to the user which post they will merit.

if you have unmerited posts that you think deserve to get merit, there are some members who created threads specifically for that, you can find them on Beginners & Help board.

here's one from Fillippone
[Merit] Share your best posts/threads with Fillippone to be merit assessed

Getting merits on Bitcointalk should come from genuine contributions. Instead of sharing edited pictures, engage meaningfully in discussions. Quality posts that add value to the community are more likely to earn merits. But I'm not getting too 😆

I'm not sure what you consider illegal here.
Yes, it is clear that Sportsbet dominates here and the fact that several high-ranking members are included only means that they have invested wisely. for example, I did not receive any offer to wear their signature or anything similar, but why would I when I am not particularly active or recognizable in the gambling part of the forum.

It is interesting that as a feature you mention how merit is distributed in Sportsbet threads, but you don't mention that Games & Rounds is full of Sportsbet's giveaways and raffles, and how much they have invested in building a brand on this forum. You don't think that this is one of the reasons for their dominance in gambling here?

From this group, only LFC_Bitcoin is a merit source (there is not much to complain about his contribution on this forum), everyone else is free to give earned smerit as they think is best.

I don't know if you are originally Sportsbet's competition, but nothing prevents you or any casino from applying the same strategy. Hire a few reputable members to take care of your (or any other casino) brand.

Unless there are no serious scam accusations against Sportsbet, there is not much room for complaint here.

I don't understand why you talk about Livecasino here, I just checked and during the 6 last months only 2 merits have been given onto the Livecasino ANN thread, one from me and the other one from slaman29. So you're wrong, very few merits are given there actually.

Regarding the other threads you pointed out I don't think more merits are given there than on some other threads, like the WO thread for example. And I don't think they are particularly undeserved. There are many fake gamblers shitposting in the gambling section, so personally I like when I see people posting about their real gambling experience and I think it's a good thing if they receive merits for that, instead of spammers.

You didn't post the username of these gang members; you just posted the merit link, so let me do it for you.

LFC_Bitcoin, jeremypwr, buwaytress (This will notify them just in case they're using the BitcoinTalk Telegram notification bot).
They are all Legendary Members. I think it doesn't matter if they're giving each other Merit.

It's like you unlocked a secret for those seeking merits to rank up and I won't be surprised if some new accounts could be flooding their thread with edited pictures of sportsbet in their phone in the next few days hehe. Seriously speaking though it's not like they are sending merits indiscriminately in their own thread to be considered as incentivized posting.

I'm not really sure that I have posted on that thread or not but I have also received some merits from LFC_Bitcoin several times on WO thread and on few other threads. If a member is spending his merits on a thread which he likes a lot or somehow is present on that thread then what's wrong with that?

As far as I know, LFC_Bitcoin is one of the most reputed members of this forum and he's also quite knowledgeable at the same time. I don't really know much about the other members and I haven't had any conversations with them but I can say that LFC is a reputable members and you should do your research once again before accusing him.

The posts where you received merits are high-quality topics that deserve those merits for the information. The merits given by him on SB thread are random and no post is worthy of one.

I am not discrediting the good work he does but highlighting the shady practices outside.

All of them are Sportsbet employee and you cannot complain about what they would do with their own earned merits. I don't know about LFC if he is working with SportsBet or not, but I assume he works with them as well. Only LFC is a merit source among them and the rest are the general users like us. LFC mostly spent his merits on those threads and don't forget that he spent his merits on the Wall observer thread as well. If you check my merit history, You will notice that I received 20 merits last week from LFC, and non of my posts were in those mentioned threads. This means, he often visits other threads and looks for a good post to dump his sMerits. Now, If forum admins allows him to spent his merits in a thread where he works for the company, you should not complain about it. This is not against forum rules. Prove me wrong if you can.

Sportsbet.io is using several high profile users to dominate the forum. Below are some of them:

Incentivizing users to post in their topic (Against the forum rules)

Any kind of incentive to post in your thread is against the rules. But sportsbet gang have found an easy way to bypass this rule.

Gang member #1 - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=379487

You will notice 90% of the merits are given to people posting their wins, discussing about sports in the sportsbet.io or livecasino.io (sister sites) threads. And the posts are nothing spectacular either, it's simple posts showing their wins and discussing normal topics like soccer.

Merits are hard to earn and when people notice that LFC will shower some merits just for posting anything in their topic, they post and hence it's clearly incentivized posting.

Gang member #2 - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=137185

This guy holds several Sportsbet.io giveaways and hence should be considered an employee. 100% of his merits are given to posters in Sportsbet.io thread.

Gang member #3 - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=901859

Again the same patterns. These people are obviously paid to lure people into posting in the sportbet.io thread and keep it bumping.


Anyone speaking against sportsbet.io is attacked with red trust for no reason.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5439809.40

I don't see where the OP lied in the above case but was given -ve trust. He was impatient and yeah should have remained calmed but not many of us would be able to remain calm when the sportsbook denies to pay the winnings from bets placed on NFL FINAL, which can't be rigged I think.

Misleading marketing by Sportsbet.io called out by Peeps Place

Sportsbet.io created a NEW thread despite already announcing in their original thread about the same. If every casino were to created threads for big wins, the forum would be a mess. Anyways, that's the least of the issues here.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/unreal-sportsbetio-pays-out-a-42000000-usdt-casino-win-5480517

Steve from sportsbet advertises as "Sportsbet.io pays out a $42,000,000 USDT Casino WIN!" which was misleading since it's the provider who pays out the winnings not sportbet and it was called out publicly by Peeps who was then attacked by the Gang members, as expected.

Over 100 merits were given by LFC on the posts about this record win

Paid press releases are being shared to mislead users into believing that sportsbet actually paid the winnings.