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I don't know where or how this religion originated but i've known a quite a number of jehiva's witnesses and they don't really show any characteristics close to even be considered extremist. Perhaps it depends on where they are and the culture of the country they belong to but for me i don't see any reason why my country would make the same decision about them

I think this religion is less harmless than everyone else, but they probably do not want to cooperate with the state, so they were banned.
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I don't know where or how this religion originated but i've known a quite a number of jehiva's witnesses and they don't really show any characteristics close to even be considered extremist. Perhaps it depends on where they are and the culture of the country they belong to but for me i don't see any reason why my country would make the same decision about them
It really is a very peaceful sect. Can somehow relate to the different sects from the point of view of the interpretation of religious issues, but to recognize Jehovah's witnesses as extremist organization is nonsense. Nothing but corruption fight against competitors in this decision, I do not see. Probably this sect refused to agitate the congregation to the war with Ukraine.
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Russia's Supreme court declared extremist activity "administrative center of Jehovah's witnesses in Russia" and forbade his work in the country. This decision was taken on April 20. Who still do not believe that Putin is the embodiment of Satan?

Great.  I hope other governments will crack down on all other religions as well.

It is about time we ban religion.

Youd feel right at home in stalinist Russia, comrade.

Now, I do believe in clear separation of church and state. Yet, legislature already in place prosecutes things like approval of terrorism or hate speech. Even though marxists (who coincidentally hate religion other than their own) are often extempt from it. Yeah, I am looking at Antifa, Greens and Black Lives Matter morons sucking up to George Soros.

Banning entire organization as "extremist" bordelines on collective guilt and that doesnt bode well with me. We are talking Jehovah Witnesses, who preach and practice paficism, not Al-Queda here.

So how are you going to enforce the ban? By putting the believers in concentration camps for "resocialization"? All the while giving Islamic State fighters housing and jobs to "integrate" them back into society? Thats the way west is going. The more violent and evil scum is, the more rewards you marxists sow upon them.

I withold my judgment until I see reasoning behind the desicision by russian prosecutors. I think they made mistake.


Dude, please try to use correct words...

Saying that BLM is "marxist" is not only false, it's stupid as fuck. That's like completely unrelated, that has nothing to do with marxism...
Do you even know what does the word mean?
I have the feeling you use the word "marxist" exactly as some morons use the word "fascist" for organization which are not political just because it displeases them...
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I don't know where or how this religion originated but i've known a quite a number of jehiva's witnesses and they don't really show any characteristics close to even be considered extremist. Perhaps it depends on where they are and the culture of the country they belong to but for me i don't see any reason why my country would make the same decision about them
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Russia's Supreme court declared extremist activity "administrative center of Jehovah's witnesses in Russia" and forbade his work in the country. This decision was taken on April 20. Who still do not believe that Putin is the embodiment of Satan?

Great.  I hope other governments will crack down on all other religions as well.

It is about time we ban religion.

Youd feel right at home in stalinist Russia, comrade.

Now, I do believe in clear separation of church and state. Yet, legislature already in place prosecutes things like approval of terrorism or hate speech. Even though marxists (who coincidentally hate religion other than their own) are often extempt from it. Yeah, I am looking at Antifa, Greens and Black Lives Matter morons sucking up to George Soros.

Banning entire organization as "extremist" bordelines on collective guilt and that doesnt bode well with me. We are talking Jehovah Witnesses, who preach and practice paficism, not Al-Queda here.

So how are you going to enforce the ban? By putting the believers in concentration camps for "resocialization"? All the while giving Islamic State fighters housing and jobs to "integrate" them back into society? Thats the way west is going. The more violent and evil scum is, the more rewards you marxists sow upon them.

I withold my judgment until I see reasoning behind the desicision by russian prosecutors. I think they made mistake.


If you look at history, you can find information that all the religion was forced to take by force, and those who did not want to take religion were killed. Thus, religion has become accustomed to the minds of people and is the norm, but if desired, it can be eradicated. The younger generation no longer wants to depend on religion and takes action.
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Russia's Supreme court declared extremist activity "administrative center of Jehovah's witnesses in Russia" and forbade his work in the country. This decision was taken on April 20. Who still do not believe that Putin is the embodiment of Satan?

Great.  I hope other governments will crack down on all other religions as well.

It is about time we ban religion.

Youd feel right at home in stalinist Russia, comrade.

Now, I do believe in clear separation of church and state. Yet, legislature already in place prosecutes things like approval of terrorism or hate speech. Even though marxists (who coincidentally hate religion other than their own) are often extempt from it. Yeah, I am looking at Antifa, Greens and Black Lives Matter morons sucking up to George Soros.

Banning entire organization as "extremist" bordelines on collective guilt and that doesnt bode well with me. We are talking Jehovah Witnesses, who preach and practice paficism, not Al-Queda here.

So how are you going to enforce the ban? By putting the believers in concentration camps for "resocialization"? All the while giving Islamic State fighters housing and jobs to "integrate" them back into society? Thats the way west is going. The more violent and evil scum is, the more rewards you marxists sow upon them.

I withold my judgment until I see reasoning behind the desicision by russian prosecutors. I think they made mistake.
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Russia's Supreme court declared extremist activity "administrative center of Jehovah's witnesses in Russia" and forbade his work in the country. This decision was taken on April 20. Who still do not believe that Putin is the embodiment of Satan?

Hmm... Call me an old fashion atheist but in my country lots of "religious organizations" are banned because of their extremism.

That might not be the case of Jehovah's witnesses but it might happen.
I mean the guys are obviously completely crazy! All of them! They harass people and try to push them to join them even harder than political parties during campaigns xD
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Personally, I have a buddy who is with Jehovah's Witnesses. And from what I understand they are anti-violent religious group. They are opposed to war. So why did Russia declared them extremist organization then?

The Jehovah's Witnesses are non-violent on the outside, and ultra-violent on the inside. The mainstream media never reports violence made by the Jehovah's Witnesses, because most of the time the violence is directed towards their own coreligionists, and towards those who try to leave the sect and lead normal lives.
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Russia's Supreme court declared extremist activity "administrative center of Jehovah's witnesses in Russia" and forbade his work in the country. This decision was taken on April 20. Who still do not believe that Putin is the embodiment of Satan?

This is just a testimony to the ruthlessness of Russia’s authoritarian regime. But it was a very important blow against the principle of freedom of belief.

Personally, I have a buddy who is with Jehovah's Witnesses. And from what I understand they are anti-violent religious group. They are opposed to war. So why did Russia declared them extremist organization then?

I suspect that because they refuses military services. Russia is a superpower and are building a stronger military unit. But if Russian Jehovah's witness don't want to go to military service because they its against their religion, then they will be persecuted. But I don't think that only Jehovah's are being persecuted in Russia because of their religion. I speculate than even Catholics and Protestant as well. In Russia, it is yet another testimony to the ruthless and brutal dishonesty of the Putin regime.
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Russia's Supreme court declared extremist activity "administrative center of Jehovah's witnesses in Russia" and forbade his work in the country. This decision was taken on April 20. Who still do not believe that Putin is the embodiment of Satan?

Let us first study and know the reason behind why the Jehovahs Witnesses are being called an extremist party. It doesnt mean that if you are a religious group all of your works and activities are good since the leaders may also be prone or weak to corruption and maybe controlled by a third party. As of this time we dont know what is the real score behind the scenes and that is why it is hard to Judge as to who was wrong in this point.
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And what do you know about them? You are faced with their aggression? I am sure that there. Of course you can find some fake example from the Internet, but on a personal example I am sure that there. As for bombing, the US bombed cities.

During the past 2-3 years, the Americans have bombed schools, kindergartens, hospitals and clinics in Syria and Afghanistan. In Yemen, the Saudis have been using American made bombs and aircraft to kill tens of thousands of Shiite civilians. The media remains silent on these atrocities.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kunduz_hospital_airstrike
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If a witness of jehovah leave to join islam, jehovah witness are in trouble... a fatwa from peshawar and gone. Ahaha... i find this very funny.

Seriously, what happen when leaving for a non radical muslim extremist congregation? Let's say to become atheist (aka only backed by the state whose forces are fighting the drug war)...

Obviously you're not going to have your head cut off, but it's very similar to Scientology in terms of the insularity and pressure to reject the outside world. If you leave them there's a good chance you also lose your friends and family if they remain involved. And you become a non person.
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Russia's Supreme court declared extremist activity "administrative center of Jehovah's witnesses in Russia" and forbade his work in the country. This decision was taken on April 20. Who still do not believe that Putin is the embodiment of Satan?
Jehovah witnesses that practice their religion purposefully and peacefully term religion extreme.Party and killed innocent people in Syria and others part of the world by Russian air planes is not evils take too extreme. This is Satanism in high order and Putin and his administration should be called to order before thing get out of hand for his citizen. I know God will not fold his hand over this.

You don't know much about the Jehovah's Witnesses. That is why you are claiming that they are practicing their religion peacefully. They are anything but peaceful. And regarding the Syrian strikes, not only Russia but the US is also bombing the militants.
And what do you know about them? You are faced with their aggression? I am sure that there. Of course you can find some fake example from the Internet, but on a personal example I am sure that there. As for bombing, the US bombed cities.
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Russia's Supreme court declared extremist activity "administrative center of Jehovah's witnesses in Russia" and forbade his work in the country. This decision was taken on April 20. Who still do not believe that Putin is the embodiment of Satan?
Jehovah witnesses that practice their religion purposefully and peacefully term religion extreme.Party and killed innocent people in Syria and others part of the world by Russian air planes is not evils take too extreme. This is Satanism in high order and Putin and his administration should be called to order before thing get out of hand for his citizen. I know God will not fold his hand over this.

They peacefully do not practice this religion, they get there as a sect and then they are very difficult to pull out from there. People become zombified, unable to think independently.
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Russia's Supreme court declared extremist activity "administrative center of Jehovah's witnesses in Russia" and forbade his work in the country. This decision was taken on April 20. Who still do not believe that Putin is the embodiment of Satan?
Jehovah witnesses that practice their religion purposefully and peacefully term religion extreme.Party and killed innocent people in Syria and others part of the world by Russian air planes is not evils take too extreme. This is Satanism in high order and Putin and his administration should be called to order before thing get out of hand for his citizen. I know God will not fold his hand over this.

You don't know much about the Jehovah's Witnesses. That is why you are claiming that they are practicing their religion peacefully. They are anything but peaceful. And regarding the Syrian strikes, not only Russia but the US is also bombing the militants.
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Russia's Supreme court declared extremist activity "administrative center of Jehovah's witnesses in Russia" and forbade his work in the country. This decision was taken on April 20. Who still do not believe that Putin is the embodiment of Satan?
Jehovah witnesses that practice their religion purposefully and peacefully term religion extreme.Party and killed innocent people in Syria and others part of the world by Russian air planes is not evils take too extreme. This is Satanism in high order and Putin and his administration should be called to order before thing get out of hand for his citizen. I know God will not fold his hand over this.
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I see no reason to deal with religion. Radical Islam certainly deserves this, but violence will only provoke growth of attacks. I think you need to better educate their children and to prohibit all benefits and privileges for all religions. Over time, believers will not.

Teaching children that Earth is 6000 years old and is flat borders on child abuse, don't you think?

Are you speaking about Jehovah's Witnesses or all religions when you make this odious claim? You do know that not all religious people believe that flat Earth/6,000 year old Earth crap, right?

So ask your God to update your Bible.  I don't care if you believe in the rest of this nonsense.  It is your business. 

Just don't bring it up in the public.  Your beliefs offend my intelligence.  I do not want to see any of it in schools, government offices and at work.
At home, you can believe in whatever Osiris myth you like.



I hardly see how my beliefs offend your "intelligence." I don't believe the Earth is flat or only 6,000 years old. I've read the Bible and there is nothing in there that makes me believe those things either.
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I've known of a few Jehovah types. No one can say Russia is exactly the bastion of human rights, but there are certainly elements of their behaviour which easily qualify as a cult. Try leaving them and see what happens.

They are not an ordinary cult. There were instances where people were driven to suicide as a result of constant harassment and blackmail from the Jehovah's Witnesses leaders.
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I've known of a few Jehovah types. No one can say Russia is exactly the bastion of human rights, but there are certainly elements of their behaviour which easily qualify as a cult. Try leaving them and see what happens.

If a witness of jehovah leave to join islam, jehovah witness are in trouble... a fatwa from peshawar and gone. Ahaha... i find this very funny.

Seriously, what happen when leaving for a non radical muslim extremist congregation? Let's say to become atheist (aka only backed by the state whose forces are fighting the drug war)...
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I've known of a few Jehovah types. No one can say Russia is exactly the bastion of human rights, but there are certainly elements of their behaviour which easily qualify as a cult. Try leaving them and see what happens.
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