The UEFA Nations League 2020/2021 Discussion Thread - page 24.

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Quote from: Joca97 on September 21, 2022, 04:43:48 PM

Scotland was clearly better in the second half and just destroyed Ukraine. Scotland with this win is really close to getting promoted and with how Ukraine is playing i dont think Scotland will have a problem advancing. Scotland showed they were better by a lot then Ukraine

I expected to see Ukraine winning or getting at least a draw but it appears I was totally wrong.. The game finished with 3 goals, not 1 or even 2... They resisted most of the time then collapsed in the last minutes of the game.
The worst part is that they will face each other in the next week and with that psychological damage, it will be a tight game..

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Quote from: CLS63 on September 21, 2022, 05:18:54 PM

Scotland's easy victory wasn't a surprising incident considering the war in Ukraine now. And Ukraine didn't have some important players in the squad at the same time. It was a total domination by Scotland especially in the second half. We can consider that Ukraine still did a good job by keeping the score at 0-0 for 70 minutes. This was an important match for Ukraine as well. Because they lost the lead to Scotland after this result and there is a two-point gap now. Now they will just hope Scotland to make mistakes to maintain their chance for League A.

Maybe I'm partial about this but I'd like to see Ukraine in the upper league. Because I believe they really deserve this. Despite the very bad condition they are in they are still doing a really good job in the group.

This 3-0 win saw Scotland move top in Group B1 and extended their unbeaten run at home in the UEFA Nations League (UNL) to 7 matches.
Even though Ukraine lost 3-0 they fought as hard as they could and to be able to hold on until the 70th minute was incredible. Scotland relentlessly continued to apply high pressure until they took the lead. John McGinn's opener turned the game around and Lyndon Dykes also scored in the 80th and 87th minutes with a header to give Scotland the win.
Ukraine seems to really have to focus on making its players have a good performance. we also know this year to be an unlucky year for ukraine because of the war going on. But I also feel that Ukraine is capable of being at the top of the table as well.

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Scotland's easy victory wasn't a surprising incident considering the war in Ukraine now. And Ukraine didn't have some important players in the squad at the same time. It was a total domination by Scotland especially in the second half. We can consider that Ukraine still did a good job by keeping the score at 0-0 for 70 minutes. This was an important match for Ukraine as well. Because they lost the lead to Scotland after this result and there is a two-point gap now. Now they will just hope Scotland to make mistakes to maintain their chance for League A.

Maybe I'm partial about this but I'd like to see Ukraine in the upper league. Because I believe they really deserve this. Despite the very bad condition they are in they are still doing a really good job in the group.

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Quote from: ingiltere on September 21, 2022, 03:44:33 PM

Scotland got a comfortable win with three goals. I was expecting their win, though I expected better resistance from Ukraine. Their second half performance was awful. Scotland played very dominant and got the win. McGinn opened the lock and after Lyndon Dykes came in he changed everything. Ukraine was unrecognizable today. Would the situation change if absent players like Zinchenko was on the field? I don't think so.
Scotland is the group leader now. Only one team will go to A League so Ukraine have no choice but to win their own games and wait for Scotland to lose points.

Scotland was clearly better in the second half and just destroyed Ukraine. Scotland with this win is really close to getting promoted and with how Ukraine is playing i dont think Scotland will have a problem advancing. Scotland showed they were better by a lot then Ukraine

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Quote from: Mr.right85 on September 21, 2022, 03:49:09 PM

Quote from: 3meek on September 21, 2022, 12:14:11 PM

Bookmakers are giving exactly the same odds of a Scottish and Ukrainian win - 2.7... Considering Scotland play at home, Ukraine look the favourites... Also, Ukraine's recent match statistics are better than Scotland's... I dare to guess that Ukraine will beat Scotland again today... Oddly enough, Ukraine plays better during the war...

Plays better during the war! That's quite something to say even though I think I understand what you mean but, it somehow seems like the war has become a motivating factor for them to put in all they've got and not be traumatised by the crisis at home.

What you've said isn't far from the truth after watching there game today. They were more better in the first half, created some good chances but couldn't even make it to taking a shot at the post. The Scottish team seemed to have saved there best chances for the last, a goalless first half and now, the scoreline is 3 goals to zero in fa our of Scotland.

The game was heading for goalless like I was expecting, but three goals in the last 15 minutes or thereabout gave Scotland what seemed like a comfortable win in the end, but it was a duly deserved win.

There are tons of better fixtures to anticipate tomorrow that should be better to watch fwiw.

Croatia vs Denmark
Poland vs Netherlands; these two games are the toughest to pick a side from, aren't they ? Denmark lost the game between the two teams, but I think it's going to be a different game this time around, perhaps BTTS ?!

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Quote from: 3meek on September 21, 2022, 12:14:11 PM

Bookmakers are giving exactly the same odds of a Scottish and Ukrainian win - 2.7... Considering Scotland play at home, Ukraine look the favourites... Also, Ukraine's recent match statistics are better than Scotland's... I dare to guess that Ukraine will beat Scotland again today... Oddly enough, Ukraine plays better during the war...

Plays better during the war! That's quite something to say even though I think I understand what you mean but, it somehow seems like the war has become a motivating factor for them to put in all they've got and not be traumatised by the crisis at home.

What you've said isn't far from the truth after watching there game today. They were more better in the first half, created some good chances but couldn't even make it to taking a shot at the post. The Scottish team seemed to have saved there best chances for the last, a goalless first half and now, the scoreline is 3 goals to zero in fa our of Scotland.

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Scotland got a comfortable win with three goals. I was expecting their win, though I expected better resistance from Ukraine. Their second half performance was awful. Scotland played very dominant and got the win. McGinn opened the lock and after Lyndon Dykes came in he changed everything. Ukraine was unrecognizable today. Would the situation change if absent players like Zinchenko was on the field? I don't think so.
Scotland is the group leader now. Only one team will go to A League so Ukraine have no choice but to win their own games and wait for Scotland to lose points.

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As most of the biggest teams don't care about this tournament much they are likely to even relegate from their leagues. For example France and England are in a big danger in League A. France are most likely to relegate too by the way because they have many injured players firstly. Secondly I don't expect them to jeopardize the important players. Maybe they would enter late in the second half but players like Mbappe shouldn't be a part of the starting eleven in the remaining matches.

This is an important point for all the teams that have big names of course. They must think of the World Cup and the league fixtures above all else. The schedule of teams getting tighter in time and they need to think of every factor to keep their players away from injuries as much as possible.

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All countries (or at least most countries) will not approach these matches as matches for a tournament. They will use it to see which players fit best in certain systems. So it's actually extra practice matches to see which players should go to the World Cup at the moment. The best players do play, of course, but these matches involve a lot of experimentation and that naturally devalues the value of the tournament considerably. Teams don't care if they finish first or second in the group. The nations league has little charisma, but it will mainly be commerce.

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Quote from: 3meek on September 21, 2022, 12:14:11 PM

Bookmakers are giving exactly the same odds of a Scottish and Ukrainian win - 2.7... Considering Scotland play at home, Ukraine look the favourites... Also, Ukraine's recent match statistics are better than Scotland's... I dare to guess that Ukraine will beat Scotland again today... Oddly enough, Ukraine plays better during the war...

It's weird though, I really can't pick a side here, both side have similar qualities of players in terms of the lineup that's been up, but the Scottish line up seemed to slightly because of the quite more familiar names of players doing a bit fairer this season, and Che Adams is leading the line.

Due to the significance of the match, I'd say this is likely going to end as a goalless draw, or at the most the Scottish taking a marginal win.

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Quote from: Franctoshi on September 21, 2022, 12:41:21 PM

Scotland vs Ukraine coming up soon, It will be nice to watch both teams play in tonight's game, Scotland got all it takes to win Ukraine in this match, they're the better side in my opinion, Ukraine too will do there best but won't be able to win Scotland, I expect the first half of the game to end in draw 0-0, while goals will come in the 2nd half of the game, if Scotland play well in this game I see them wining their opponent with two goals to nothing 2-0.

Ukraine is a good team and should not be underestimated imo. I know the odds are slightly in favour of Scotland but the last match between the two teams, Ukraine won with 3 goals to 1. I think Ukraine will win unless they are out of the game psychologically..

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It will be a tough match for the Ukraine national team because their rivals Scotland are a matched team for them. It is very difficult to predict the winner in such matches, but I see Ukraine as the side that is close to victory in this match, both because of my emotional approach and in terms of squad quality. I'm guessing they won't lose in this tough away game and they will win a draw at worst.

Quality players such as Artem Dovbyk, Roman Yaremchuk, Andriy Yarmolenko, Vitaliy Mykolenko and Malinovskyi are very important players for the Ukraine national team and they are in the squad in this match. Oleksandr Zinchenko will be the only player missing from their squad in this match.

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Scotland vs Ukraine coming up soon, It will be nice to watch both teams play in tonight's game, Scotland got all it takes to win Ukraine in this match, they're the better side in my opinion, Ukraine too will do there best but won't be able to win Scotland, I expect the first half of the game to end in draw 0-0, while goals will come in the 2nd half of the game, if Scotland play well in this game I see them wining their opponent with two goals to nothing 2-0.

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France have quite numerous number of players injured and they will miss this international break. Karim Benzema, Paul Pogba, N'Golo Kanté, Kingsley Coman, Presnel Kimpembe, Lucas Hernandez, Hugo Llori, Ibrahima Konatè, Adrien Rabiot, Boubacar Kamara , Théo Hernandez and Lucas Digne. These are high class players and a very bad news for France manager, Didier Deschamps. Moreover they still have some keyplayers who are present and I believe they can do the work for France.

even when these players were doing well, france had bad results in the UEFA Nations League games which leads me to conclude that france doesn't take this league seriously, so they are just playing to meet the schedule, they have other goals, for france, it is more beneficial to save players for local leagues where each player is playing and for the world than to play seriously in this league and then have some player injured. I bet on franca but I'm not confident that they can win this game, maybe they'll draw, anyway I decided to try my luck

Scotland - Ukraine

the odds for ukraine to win this game are very good odds and for that reason i decided to bet on ukraine

it's very strange that the odds are so balanced in this game, anyway i believe ukraine can win the game, of course it may not be an easy game for them to deal with because the opponent needs to win to take first place so they will try hard to win the game and Ukraine also need to win to stay in first place, this will be a very interesting game to watch

Bookmakers are giving exactly the same odds of a Scottish and Ukrainian win - 2.7... Considering Scotland play at home, Ukraine look the favourites... Also, Ukraine's recent match statistics are better than Scotland's... I dare to guess that Ukraine will beat Scotland again today... Oddly enough, Ukraine plays better during the war...

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Some really, really tough games for England coming up. They play Italy & then Germany within 3-4 days, both games will be very tough. Whilst the Nations League is important, these games will help Southgate set up to figure out his best team in preparation for the biggest show on earth, an unprecedented winter World Cup. I for one, can’t wait for that.

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Quote from: hashrateproducts on September 21, 2022, 07:16:39 AM

France have quite numerous number of players injured and they will miss this international break. Karim Benzema, Paul Pogba, N'Golo Kanté, Kingsley Coman, Presnel Kimpembe, Lucas Hernandez, Hugo Llori, Ibrahima Konatè, Adrien Rabiot, Boubacar Kamara , Théo Hernandez and Lucas Digne. These are high class players and a very bad news for France manager, Didier Deschamps. Moreover they still have some keyplayers who are present and I believe they can do the work for France.

even when these players were doing well, france had bad results in the UEFA Nations League games which leads me to conclude that france doesn't take this league seriously, so they are just playing to meet the schedule, they have other goals, for france, it is more beneficial to save players for local leagues where each player is playing and for the world than to play seriously in this league and then have some player injured. I bet on franca but I'm not confident that they can win this game, maybe they'll draw, anyway I decided to try my luck

Scotland - Ukraine

the odds for ukraine to win this game are very good odds and for that reason i decided to bet on ukraine

it's very strange that the odds are so balanced in this game, anyway i believe ukraine can win the game, of course it may not be an easy game for them to deal with because the opponent needs to win to take first place so they will try hard to win the game and Ukraine also need to win to stay in first place, this will be a very interesting game to watch

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Quote from: Distraction on September 21, 2022, 03:04:24 AM

Croatia - Denmark is the most important match of the group as it can play a decider role for the lead.

Denmark are still in the lead by a gap of two points. Croatia have been quite successful in the recent times. Even though both of them were away matches they still defeated Denmark and France both by 1-0. We watched different halves in the Denmark - Croatia match so both of them played solid. Despite France's dominance Croatia still won that. They are a really dangerous team now and they can win this one also. But I still don't trust them as much as to bet on their win. Rather than that I'd prefer both teams to score at 1.89. Because this is a crucial match for both of them.

I agree that Croatia is an unpredictable team, which can lose at home to Austria, and then win away to France and Denmark.
Croatia had a big drop in performance and results after the 2018 World Cup in Russia, when they were second in the world.
However, in the last year, the Croatian team is rising again and achieving very good results, especially in the UEFA Nations League.
In the first match against Denmark, Croatia was lucky in the first half, but in the second half they were better and deservedly won.
Once again, a very uncertain and exciting match awaits us, in which Croatia, as the host, has a small advantage.

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Quote from: cygan on September 21, 2022, 07:05:13 AM

the two bayern players Leon Goretzka and Manuel Neuer tested positive for the corona virus and have to leave the national team again Tongue

for the match on friday against hungary and on monday vs. england they are therefore not in the squad - frank bauman (goalkeeper at tsg hoffenheim) has been re-nominated

and one more player will be out. julian brandt has an infection. but he has tested negative for the corona virus.
but he left the team's quarters today. this is already the third important player who will be out for the games against hungary and england.
now we have to wait and see if any more players will drop out !

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France have quite numerous number of players injured and they will miss this international break. Karim Benzema, Paul Pogba, N'Golo Kanté, Kingsley Coman, Presnel Kimpembe, Lucas Hernandez, Hugo Llori, Ibrahima Konatè, Adrien Rabiot, Boubacar Kamara , Théo Hernandez and Lucas Digne. These are high class players and a very bad news for France manager, Didier Deschamps. Moreover they still have some keyplayers who are present and I believe they can do the work for France.

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the two bayern players Leon Goretzka and Manuel Neuer tested positive for the corona virus and have to leave the national team again Tongue

for the match on friday against hungary and on monday vs. england they are therefore not in the squad - frank bauman (goalkeeper at tsg hoffenheim) has been re-nominated

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