The UEFA Nations League 2020/2021 Discussion Thread - page 28.

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Quote from: joker_josue on June 27, 2022, 05:22:57 AM

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This competition was created with the aim of ending friendly games. Therefore, it is normal for many players to take these games less seriously. As the competition is still very recent, it still doesn't generate much motivation. But with three or four more years of competition, I believe that mentality will change a bit.

I don't think the whole purpose is to completely eliminate friendly games, but to instead provide a more organized structure to all the friendlies that can happen in Europe, where there are many, many great teams.

Friendly matches on top of the Nations League will continue to happen, just not as frequently as before. In a way, this makes friendly matches a bit more interesting, because there are less of them. The Nations League is basically a lower tier tournament compared to the World Cup for example, but it's nice to have so many different teams playing with each other all the time.

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Quote from: FanEagle on June 27, 2022, 03:58:06 PM

If it was up to the teams they could have just went with any game at any time against anyone they want and that would work for them, but since it's now all decided, they are facing teams that UEFA tells them and they play on the dates that UEFA tells them, which is limiting.

But it doesn't take the League of Nations for that to happen. This has always been the case, all matches of the national teams are carried out according to the FIFA calendar and continental associations. Even friendly matches are held on dates defined by FIFA, in this case what differs is the choice of opponent that is made by UEFA. It should be noted that all over the world national teams played games, friendly or not, on the same days as the Nations League games.

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Quote from: joker_josue on June 27, 2022, 05:22:57 AM

Quote from: MonsterV on June 26, 2022, 04:23:43 PM

Many players don't feel like playing these matches at all. Of course we see that they give interviews and that they say that they are looking forward to it and that they want to win, but that is simply a moral obligation to the fatherland. Kevin de Bruyne was recently one of the few players to come out publicly saying that he had no appetite for these conference leg matches at all. Now it can be a preparation for the World Cup, but that is a coincidence.

This competition was created with the aim of ending friendly games. Therefore, it is normal for many players to take these games less seriously. As the competition is still very recent, it still doesn't generate much motivation. But with three or four more years of competition, I believe that mentality will change a bit.

UEFA and its member associations want a greater sense of sportsmanship in national team-level football, with growing opinions from associations, coaches.players and supporters that friendly matches do not provide proper competition for the national team," so many countries do not take this tournament seriously so it is natural that star-studded teams can lose to relatively weak countries, maybe there are only a few countries that take this tournament seriously, such as Portugal and the Netherlands, who played like that. amazing in the UEFA Nations League

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Quote from: joker_josue on June 27, 2022, 05:22:57 AM

Quote from: MonsterV on June 26, 2022, 04:23:43 PM

Many players don't feel like playing these matches at all. Of course we see that they give interviews and that they say that they are looking forward to it and that they want to win, but that is simply a moral obligation to the fatherland. Kevin de Bruyne was recently one of the few players to come out publicly saying that he had no appetite for these conference leg matches at all. Now it can be a preparation for the World Cup, but that is a coincidence.

This competition was created with the aim of ending friendly games. Therefore, it is normal for many players to take these games less seriously. As the competition is still very recent, it still doesn't generate much motivation. But with three or four more years of competition, I believe that mentality will change a bit.

It is pointless to discuss how important the nations league is. It is now known to everyone that friendly matches were created instead. That's why players don't care. Every tournament is important for the players, but in this tournament, the players don't care much because they play without rest. Maybe UEFA can introduce some incentive rules to make it more important.

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Quote from: joker_josue on June 27, 2022, 05:22:57 AM

Quote from: MonsterV on June 26, 2022, 04:23:43 PM

Many players don't feel like playing these matches at all. Of course we see that they give interviews and that they say that they are looking forward to it and that they want to win, but that is simply a moral obligation to the fatherland. Kevin de Bruyne was recently one of the few players to come out publicly saying that he had no appetite for these conference leg matches at all. Now it can be a preparation for the World Cup, but that is a coincidence.

This competition was created with the aim of ending friendly games. Therefore, it is normal for many players to take these games less seriously. As the competition is still very recent, it still doesn't generate much motivation. But with three or four more years of competition, I believe that mentality will change a bit.

I really don’t care too much about this competition because it is just a bunch of teams trying to fight between each other. So, I am personally not worried about whatever happens in this tournament. I don’t think the results are going to be very important for any team that is taking part in this tournament.

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Quote from: joker_josue on June 27, 2022, 05:22:57 AM

Quote from: MonsterV on June 26, 2022, 04:23:43 PM

Many players don't feel like playing these matches at all. Of course we see that they give interviews and that they say that they are looking forward to it and that they want to win, but that is simply a moral obligation to the fatherland. Kevin de Bruyne was recently one of the few players to come out publicly saying that he had no appetite for these conference leg matches at all. Now it can be a preparation for the World Cup, but that is a coincidence.

This competition was created with the aim of ending friendly games. Therefore, it is normal for many players to take these games less seriously. As the competition is still very recent, it still doesn't generate much motivation. But with three or four more years of competition, I believe that mentality will change a bit.

It's normal for big teams to get results that are so less than optimal considering that the UEFA Nations League is only a friendly match designed by UEFA to become a more competitive competition, but many countries prefer to display their young players to compete in UEFA.events. nations because many countries do not want to field their core players to bring out the best in their.abilities, especially since they will play in the Qatar world cup next November, of course the players will not choose to play 100% in the competition.

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Quote from: joker_josue on June 27, 2022, 05:22:57 AM

Quote from: MonsterV on June 26, 2022, 04:23:43 PM

Many players don't feel like playing these matches at all. Of course we see that they give interviews and that they say that they are looking forward to it and that they want to win, but that is simply a moral obligation to the fatherland. Kevin de Bruyne was recently one of the few players to come out publicly saying that he had no appetite for these conference leg matches at all. Now it can be a preparation for the World Cup, but that is a coincidence.

This competition was created with the aim of ending friendly games. Therefore, it is normal for many players to take these games less seriously. As the competition is still very recent, it still doesn't generate much motivation. But with three or four more years of competition, I believe that mentality will change a bit.

Friendly games won't be fully over of course, there will still be some right before the big tournaments (probably) but it certainly will drop them near zero levels if not zero. This idea of "ending friendlies" makes no sense to me, let the teams do whatever they want, why put another burden on the national teams when they are just there to represent their nations and not really make any money.

If it was up to the teams they could have just went with any game at any time against anyone they want and that would work for them, but since it's now all decided, they are facing teams that UEFA tells them and they play on the dates that UEFA tells them, which is limiting.

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Quote from: MonsterV on June 26, 2022, 04:23:43 PM

Many players don't feel like playing these matches at all. Of course we see that they give interviews and that they say that they are looking forward to it and that they want to win, but that is simply a moral obligation to the fatherland. Kevin de Bruyne was recently one of the few players to come out publicly saying that he had no appetite for these conference leg matches at all. Now it can be a preparation for the World Cup, but that is a coincidence.

This competition was created with the aim of ending friendly games. Therefore, it is normal for many players to take these games less seriously. As the competition is still very recent, it still doesn't generate much motivation. But with three or four more years of competition, I believe that mentality will change a bit.

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Quote from: karabiber on June 26, 2022, 04:18:58 PM

I think the big team players are starting to care less about the National league. Being constantly playing matches depresses them physically and mentally for footballers. The fact that earning more advertising revenue and money is more important than the mental and physical condition of the players. At the beginning of the tournament, i wasn't thinking of surprise results, but when i saw the group winners, i changed my mind. The players are not mentally prepared for this tournament in my opinion.

Many players don't feel like playing these matches at all. Of course we see that they give interviews and that they say that they are looking forward to it and that they want to win, but that is simply a moral obligation to the fatherland. Kevin de Bruyne was recently one of the few players to come out publicly saying that he had no appetite for these conference leg matches at all. Now it can be a preparation for the World Cup, but that is a coincidence.

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Quote from: savetheFORUM on June 25, 2022, 01:52:37 AM

Quote from: omgitsmehehe on June 24, 2022, 04:10:01 PM

With my little observation, I think most teams are not serious in this UEFA nation league competition, expecially most of the top teams we expected alot from their performance in the competition is frustrating. So I think most of the players are not serious in this competition and that's The reason why sometimes I got tired of watching it. The only interested international game I think is serious is the world cup, cause all the teams are always serious.

Surely most of the teams are not taking this as seriously and doing some experiments for their preparation for next mega event which is going to play in Qatar and mostly are caring about their main players as any serious injury can create trouble for them even we have still six months, but this all is just playing as International friendlies or exhibition matches with too many big teams are losing matches against weaker teams and not giving their best is killing importance of this event hopefully UEFA will try to bring some changes if they want to earn some big money with current situation it's going to be crap as no big nation is having serious thinking about this, and they are doing things which are not expected for fans around Europe.

This is on hold until September when it will turn back.We saw in the previous games during early June that the big teams were not taking it seriously bringing really surprising result,big teams like England being humiliated from Hungary in what was the worst defeat in history for the England national team followed by many other surprising results from Italy,Germany,France and a couple of others.Also in other groups like in B,C and D a lot of surprising results from teams which are not in the same league as the big ones in Europe,this clearly shows that UEFA has failed so far with this competition.

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I think the big team players are starting to care less about the National league. Being constantly playing matches depresses them physically and mentally for footballers. The fact that earning more advertising revenue and money is more important than the mental and physical condition of the players. At the beginning of the tournament, i wasn't thinking of surprise results, but when i saw the group winners, i changed my mind. The players are not mentally prepared for this tournament in my opinion.

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Quote from: AndySt on June 24, 2022, 06:04:10 PM

Quote from: fuguebtc on June 23, 2022, 08:23:29 PM

Actually, I don't think any team cares about these matches. Yes, they lost to a team by 0-4. So? This tournament is just basically a few national-friendly matches. So, I don't think anything is going to take this tournament seriously at all. For any team to have any kind of bad performance here is not going to have any effect on the world cup performance, you know. These are just some friendly matches and the players are treating it like one.

Oh, that's interesting already. I would like to know your opinion, how, for example, a performance at the European Football Championship can affect a performance at the World Cup?! For your information, the UEFA Nations League is a completely official independent tournament that is held by UEFA, and the FIFA World Cup is another independent tournament that is already held by FIFA. Also regarding the supposedly friendly status of this tournament, I would like to remind you that a successful performance in the UEFA Nations League can help later if the national team failed to qualify in the qualifying tournaments for the European Championship and the World Cup.

I would definitely say that no experienced player would claim the UEFA Nations League means as much to them as either the EFC or the WC. What I do think though is that players who still need to prove their quality really appreciate that tournament a lot and perceive it as a massive chance to finally make it into the team. Honestly, take any player who made it to the Champions League final, played something like over 60 games the season, someone from Liverpool or Madrid, or even Mbappe who actually lost earlier with PSG, do you really think they are eagerly looking forward to the UEFA Nations League instead of going on vacation? Mbappe knows 100% that he is going to play the World Cup. He doesn't need to prove anything. And then you are convinced he is totally excited for the UNL games?

I don't think so...

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Quote from: omgitsmehehe on June 24, 2022, 04:10:01 PM

With my little observation, I think most teams are not serious in this UEFA nation league competition, expecially most of the top teams we expected alot from their performance in the competition is frustrating. So I think most of the players are not serious in this competition and that's The reason why sometimes I got tired of watching it. The only interested international game I think is serious is the world cup, cause all the teams are always serious.

Surely most of the teams are not taking this as seriously and doing some experiments for their preparation for next mega event which is going to play in Qatar and mostly are caring about their main players as any serious injury can create trouble for them even we have still six months, but this all is just playing as International friendlies or exhibition matches with too many big teams are losing matches against weaker teams and not giving their best is killing importance of this event hopefully UEFA will try to bring some changes if they want to earn some big money with current situation it's going to be crap as no big nation is having serious thinking about this, and they are doing things which are not expected for fans around Europe.

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Quote from: casperBGD on June 21, 2022, 02:48:07 PM

Quote from: minairia3 on June 21, 2022, 12:57:51 PM

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The matches in particular were boring.

you probably missed the good ones, because most of matches brought unexpected results, but I would not agree that those were boring
recalling matches between Netherlands and Wales, where both times there were two goals in overtime, and Wales lost both matches, that must hurt them, or Belgium that stormed Poland 6:1, after conceiving goal late in first half

match between England and Hungary is almost epic, they losing home 0:4, happens once in a lifetime

Totally agree with you the fact that the results were expected it means that most of the games were competitive and exciting, i have to add france vs croatia game in france despite the home team losing 1 0 they played really good and missed many opportunities it was a breath taking game in my opinion and there were many other ones too.

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Quote from: fuguebtc on June 23, 2022, 08:23:29 PM

Actually, I don't think any team cares about these matches. Yes, they lost to a team by 0-4. So? This tournament is just basically a few national-friendly matches. So, I don't think anything is going to take this tournament seriously at all. For any team to have any kind of bad performance here is not going to have any effect on the world cup performance, you know. These are just some friendly matches and the players are treating it like one.

Oh, that's interesting already. I would like to know your opinion, how, for example, a performance at the European Football Championship can affect a performance at the World Cup?! For your information, the UEFA Nations League is a completely official independent tournament that is held by UEFA, and the FIFA World Cup is another independent tournament that is already held by FIFA. Also regarding the supposedly friendly status of this tournament, I would like to remind you that a successful performance in the UEFA Nations League can help later if the national team failed to qualify in the qualifying tournaments for the European Championship and the World Cup.

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From past records I'm gradually observing that many countries are no longer serious about the league's of the nations, the performance of 2021 is far more different and better comparing it with the performances we are seeing right now in the UEFA Nations League 2022.

I think, many countries are very serious in UEFA Nation league competition just that their players prefer to demonstrate well in their clubs than in their own countries which is causing them poor performance in this UEFA Nation league 2022. Many strong teams dropped out in this season, because all those teams that didn't perform well in 2021 are the one leading this season tournament. Hungary team are really demonstrating in this tournament, because they have defeated many strong teams in this UEFA Nation league competition.

Honestly, I am someone who likes to see club football a lot more compared to international football, unless it is the world cup. I really am not someone who is generally excited to see international-friendly matches.

This happened a few days ago. I was asking one of my friends what he thinks about the UEFA Nations League?

And he told me that he was not following the away financial League at all and after that he said,""who the hell cares about UEFA Nations League?"".

And I obviously cannot say that this is not the situation for a lot of players playing in the UEFA Nations League.

With my little observation, I think most teams are not serious in this UEFA nation league competition, expecially most of the top teams we expected alot from their performance in the competition is frustrating. So I think most of the players are not serious in this competition and that's The reason why sometimes I got tired of watching it. The only interested international game I think is serious is the world cup, cause all the teams are always serious.

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Many people do not take this competition seriously. However, there are a lot of teams that are happy with the structure of this competition. Teams that are not good enough for the Champions League and Europa league can now compete with other teams in Europe. Still, the conference league finalists were no worse than the Europa League. But that is of course at the end of the competition. At the beginning of the competition there are a lot of teams that you already know from the start that they cannot become champions. but for the supporters it is nice on the one hand.

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Quote from: Sebas.tian on June 24, 2022, 02:06:43 AM

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From past records I'm gradually observing that many countries are no longer serious about the league's of the nations, the performance of 2021 is far more different and better comparing it with the performances we are seeing right now in the UEFA Nations League 2022.

I think, many countries are very serious in UEFA Nation league competition just that their players prefer to demonstrate well in their clubs than in their own countries which is causing them poor performance in this UEFA Nation league 2022. Many strong teams dropped out in this season, because all those teams that didn't perform well in 2021 are the one leading this season tournament. Hungary team are really demonstrating in this tournament, because they have defeated many strong teams in this UEFA Nation league competition.

Honestly, I am someone who likes to see club football a lot more compared to international football, unless it is the world cup. I really am not someone who is generally excited to see international-friendly matches.

This happened a few days ago. I was asking one of my friends what he thinks about the UEFA Nations League?

And he told me that he was not following the away financial League at all and after that he said,""who the hell cares about UEFA Nations League?"".

And I obviously cannot say that this is not the situation for a lot of players playing in the UEFA Nations League.

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From past records I'm gradually observing that many countries are no longer serious about the league's of the nations, the performance of 2021 is far more different and better comparing it with the performances we are seeing right now in the UEFA Nations League 2022.

I think, many countries are very serious in UEFA Nation league competition just that their players prefer to demonstrate well in their clubs than in their own countries which is causing them poor performance in this UEFA Nation league 2022. Many strong teams dropped out in this season, because all those teams that didn't perform well in 2021 are the one leading this season tournament. Hungary team are really demonstrating in this tournament, because they have defeated many strong teams in this UEFA Nation league competition.

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Quote from: nullama on June 23, 2022, 08:31:33 PM

Quote from: fuguebtc on June 23, 2022, 08:23:29 PM

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Absolutely right.

It's basically a tournament of organized friendlies so it's literally just practice for all the teams. No way they're going to put all their effort in these matches and risk getting an injury and miss out on the real matches.

It's interesting that only Europe has this kind of tournament, I think it's because there are so many countries playing there.

Well, don't get me wrong. If you lose a match by 7-0 or something like that, it is going to be remembered regardless of the match being a friendly or a world cup final. But I don't think any team takes this friendly tournament so seriously that they are going to go all out on their opponent and even think about scoring 7 goals in the first place.

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