The UEFA Nations League 2020/2021 Discussion Thread - page 82.

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Quote from: Slow death on November 19, 2020, 05:56:24 AM

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Who's in the Nation League finals? Between Belgium, France, Italy and Spain?

France has a good selection and played with Portugal and have an average performance in my opinion

Italy is another good selection but it also had an average performance if we consider that they were in a group of weak selections

spain also has a good selection and have good performance because they were in the germany group and they managed to have only one defeat and still leave germany behind

Belgium is also a good team and was lucky to be in a group of very weak teams, England has had inconsistent performances

I think Belgium and France are more likely to be the champions

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Which team will you bet on?

I would bet on France

Russia 0 - 5 Serbia

I think it's time for the Russian government to stop focusing only on wars, persecution policies and focus on soccer, because I don't see the Russian team having good results in international competitions

Let's hope Belgium wins at the end. With this selection they got a chance to do. All the other countries won some tournaments already so it would be nice if Belgium win.

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Quote from: nikola22 on November 19, 2020, 06:32:47 PM

I don't think that Turkey is a weird team. this group was equal so it's not a surprise that all standings took shape only after the last matchday. and Turkey won't stay long in League C. almost sure they will be in top of their group next year.

Turkey is not weird, i agree. But they are playing really bad. Although they have good players, they could not find a good team spirit unfortunately. In the League C, there is not a good football team anyway, they will return to the upper league.
When we look at the quality of players it was supposed to be a Turkey in a much better place. A team with successful football players who play in very good clubs.

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Quote from: nikola22 on November 19, 2020, 06:32:47 PM

Quote from: ingiltere on November 19, 2020, 08:14:52 AM

Turkey is pretty weird. If they won that match they could've promoted to higher league but they lost the game and relegate to lower league.
Russia was first before last nights matches but they ended up having an embarrassing loss. Even Serbia didn't expect that. They won and stayed in League B.
Who would expect that Hungary win their match and Russia lose by big margin and Hungary promote to League A? This group had full of surprises.

I'm glad that Nations League is over finally. I never liked the format.

I don't think that Turkey is a weird team. this group was equal so it's not a surprise that all standings took shape only after the last matchday. and Turkey won't stay long in League C. almost sure they will be in top of their group next year.

I completely agree with you. The group was equal. Hungary, Russia, Serbia and Turkey is almost equal quality. I don't think anyone is too strong here. Each team in this group played well. So you can see, there is not much difference in points between the teams.

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Quote from: nikola22 on November 19, 2020, 06:32:47 PM

I don't think that Turkey is a weird team. this group was equal so it's not a surprise that all standings took shape only after the last matchday. and Turkey won't stay long in League C. almost sure they will be in top of their group next year.

The problem is they should be in League A with that team quality. It's like Juventus playing in Serie C now.
On the paper Turkey is stronger than Hungary, Serbia and Russia but they finished last. They didn't even show 1/10 of their true potential. I believe they will be promoted quick because other teams are bunch of small countries. This is a heavy prestige loss for Turkey.

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Quote from: ingiltere on November 19, 2020, 08:14:52 AM

Turkey is pretty weird. If they won that match they could've promoted to higher league but they lost the game and relegate to lower league.
Russia was first before last nights matches but they ended up having an embarrassing loss. Even Serbia didn't expect that. They won and stayed in League B.
Who would expect that Hungary win their match and Russia lose by big margin and Hungary promote to League A? This group had full of surprises.

I'm glad that Nations League is over finally. I never liked the format.

I don't think that Turkey is a weird team. this group was equal so it's not a surprise that all standings took shape only after the last matchday. and Turkey won't stay long in League C. almost sure they will be in top of their group next year.

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Quote from: Slow death on November 19, 2020, 05:56:24 AM

Russia 0 - 5 Serbia

I think it's time for the Russian government to stop focusing only on wars, persecution policies and focus on soccer, because I don't see the Russian team having good results in international competitions

I agree with first part of your post, but I don't they are bad enough to lose like this. In 2018 World Cup they played well snd even kicked out Spain, but since then their results is going down only. IMO, main their problem that they have very few players in top European leagues, they prefer to play in Russia, where they get more money, but level of league is lower.

Quote from: casperBGD on November 19, 2020, 02:54:06 AM

and Russia and Serbia are not neighbors, there is a solid distance between, although both in Europe

I'm not bad at geography, but after his post I even looked at map to check since when Russia and Serbia become neighbors Cheesy

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Quote from: Slow death on November 19, 2020, 05:56:24 AM

Russia 0 - 5 Serbia

I think it's time for the Russian government to stop focusing only on wars, persecution policies and focus on soccer, because I don't see the Russian team having good results in international competitions

To think Russia was on top of group B3 table before yesterday's game is funny. I did backed them to win or draw only for them to get demolished by the bottom team. I should have just gone with a Netherlands, Italy, England and Belgium win. Those seemed like a more likely to happened but wanted to give Russia the benefit of doubt. I don't think they've had much improvement since the last world cup.

That's bygone though. I'll move on quickly as my favorite leagues are back.

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Quote from: Slow death on November 19, 2020, 05:56:24 AM

I think Belgium and France are more likely to be the champions

I also agree with you about this posibility. About the play-style and performance of each player, I appreciate Belgium more, they develope a more coherent gameplay. And I'm gonna bet for Belgium Wink

Quote from: Slow death on November 19, 2020, 05:56:24 AM

I think it's time for the Russian government to stop focusing only on wars, persecution policies and focus on soccer, because I don't see the Russian team having good results in international competitions

Russian football is slowly losing its position on the international arean and Covid-19 pandemic is being very serious here and I think this is also the reason

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Yesterday if people were careful to choose only those teams who needed victory the most and select from them teams which had really weak opponents surely have made some money.I wonder how it continues now,do we start other groups now from the promoted and relegated teams and we start over or is it different?

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Turkey is pretty weird. If they won that match they could've promoted to higher league but they lost the game and relegate to lower league.
Russia was first before last nights matches but they ended up having an embarrassing loss. Even Serbia didn't expect that. They won and stayed in League B.
Who would expect that Hungary win their match and Russia lose by big margin and Hungary promote to League A? This group had full of surprises.

I'm glad that Nations League is over finally. I never liked the format.

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Quote from: Bitcoin Miners on November 18, 2020, 11:12:43 PM

Who's in the Nation League finals? Between Belgium, France, Italy and Spain?

France has a good selection and played with Portugal and have an average performance in my opinion

Italy is another good selection but it also had an average performance if we consider that they were in a group of weak selections

spain also has a good selection and have good performance because they were in the germany group and they managed to have only one defeat and still leave germany behind

Belgium is also a good team and was lucky to be in a group of very weak teams, England has had inconsistent performances

I think Belgium and France are more likely to be the champions

Quote from: Bitcoin Miners on November 18, 2020, 11:12:43 PM

Which team will you bet on?

I would bet on France

Russia 0 - 5 Serbia

I think it's time for the Russian government to stop focusing only on wars, persecution policies and focus on soccer, because I don't see the Russian team having good results in international competitions

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Quote from: Harkorede on November 18, 2020, 11:54:10 PM

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I have chosen to go with a 3 team parlay; Netherlands, Italy and Belgium to ML @5.2+ Odds.

Netherlands with the early scare to my betslip, they went behind just after 6 minutes played and trailed for the most part of the entire match just to turn things around with 13 minutes left to play

That's a nice way to end the international break for me. Let's get back to club side football as usual Grin

Nice one. I did a parlay from a freebet of Sportsbet on Albania + Turkey at 4.2 odds,,, I thought if Turkey can beat Russia surely they can beat Hungary but as usual football proves me wrong:)

And finally, now people we can leave internationals and focus on the football we all prefer at the clubs;)

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God saved us from Nations League, finally! Final Four will take place around October 2021 in Italy (which probably made it in the top 10). Playing home, if the coronavirus crisis will be over, they might have a good chance of winning the title.

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Quote from: Jackl87 on November 18, 2020, 03:59:58 PM

Usually i don't judge people that i don't know personally, but to me it seems that Joachimg loew just became to stubborn and arrogant after the world cup win in 2014 and alle the praise he got back then.
The decision to sack Boateng, Hummels and Müller was completely unnecessary and i think he only did it to profile himself and it went horribly wrong.
If Löw was a club trainer he would have been already fired a long time ago, it's time to do that now and then the new manager must bring Müller, Boateng and Hummels back.

Maybe. We should remember that players can also become stubborn and arrogant after winning a world cup - they go from being good international players to suddenly being the absolute best in the world. But it is part of a manager's job to deal with this... so if the players did become arrogant and over-confident, Löw should have been able to bring them back under control.

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Quote from: dre1982 on November 19, 2020, 01:56:57 AM

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Quote from: Harkorede on November 18, 2020, 11:54:10 PM

Quote from: Harkorede on November 18, 2020, 02:41:02 PM

I have chosen to go with a 3 team parlay; Netherlands, Italy and Belgium to ML @5.2+ Odds.

Netherlands with the early scare to my betslip, they went behind just after 6 minutes played and trailed for the most part of the entire match just to turn things around with 13 minutes left to play

That's a nice way to end the international break for me. Let's get back to club side football as usual Grin

As i expected, the Netherlands played very well. The match was very exciting. The Netherlands have had a lot of good attacks.

The problem with the Netherlands are the defenders. As you noticed the attacks were good but some defending was very bad yesterday. They just miss Van Dijk and De Ligt in the centre of the defence.

Yeah you are right. Their defense was not too good. But you might agree with that quote " attacking is the best defense" . I think they flollow that rules. So they were able to win the match.

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Quote from: slapper on November 18, 2020, 06:31:29 PM

Russia had 20 shots compare with 12 shots from Serbia but it seems that Serbia was more effective than its neighbor.

yeah, Serbia won because most of the shots come into goal, did not played much better than Russia, but luck was with us
and Russia and Serbia are not neighbors, there is a solid distance between, although both in Europe

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Quote from: Barcode_ on November 18, 2020, 06:31:18 PM

Even though Iceland have indeed surprised many football fans around the world when they managed to qualify for the last World Cup which was held in Russia, but it seems that it is quite a huge burden for Iceland to be playing in the Uefa Nations League being placed in League A, as Iceland have struggled to score goals against other teams and have also lost all their matches in the group. Maybe the players of Iceland would find it much better to play in League B after their relegation from League A.

I think you might be onto something.Even though I like Iceland,they might be overachieving in the last few years so for them League A was simply too much. League B seems more suitable in the long run. And if they are good enough, they will get back to League A.

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Quote from: Iranus on November 19, 2020, 01:30:56 AM

Quote from: Harkorede on November 18, 2020, 11:54:10 PM

Quote from: Harkorede on November 18, 2020, 02:41:02 PM

I have chosen to go with a 3 team parlay; Netherlands, Italy and Belgium to ML @5.2+ Odds.

Netherlands with the early scare to my betslip, they went behind just after 6 minutes played and trailed for the most part of the entire match just to turn things around with 13 minutes left to play

That's a nice way to end the international break for me. Let's get back to club side football as usual Grin

As i expected, the Netherlands played very well. The match was very exciting. The Netherlands have had a lot of good attacks.

The problem with the Netherlands are the defenders. As you noticed the attacks were good but some defending was very bad yesterday. They just miss Van Dijk and De Ligt in the centre of the defence.

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Quote from: Harkorede on November 18, 2020, 11:54:10 PM

Quote from: Harkorede on November 18, 2020, 02:41:02 PM

I have chosen to go with a 3 team parlay; Netherlands, Italy and Belgium to ML @5.2+ Odds.

Netherlands with the early scare to my betslip, they went behind just after 6 minutes played and trailed for the most part of the entire match just to turn things around with 13 minutes left to play

That's a nice way to end the international break for me. Let's get back to club side football as usual Grin

As i expected, the Netherlands played very well. The match was very exciting. The Netherlands have had a lot of good attacks.

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Quote from: Harkorede on November 18, 2020, 02:41:02 PM

I have chosen to go with a 3 team parlay; Netherlands, Italy and Belgium to ML @5.2+ Odds.

Netherlands with the early scare to my betslip, they went behind just after 6 minutes played and trailed for the most part of the entire match just to turn things around with 13 minutes left to play

That's a nice way to end the international break for me. Let's get back to club side football as usual Grin

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