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February 12, 2023, 01:43:27 AM
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I don't think Islam had proven himself against the no 1 P4P. He didn't dominate this fight.
Alexander Volkanovski proved his toughness and both had crazy cardio and only during the final minutes of the 5th round did Volkanovski had an upper hand on Islam Makhachev, the rest of the fight Islam Makhachev was controlling the fight, his striking was on point and he made some slick take downs and his ability to hold the opponent down is incredible but Alexander Volkanovski was the toughest in his career and hopefully we will see them meet again in the future.

Yair Rodríguez surprised me with his ground game, he improved a lot on his submission and did not expect him to win the fight with a submission and that too in a title fight.
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February 12, 2023, 12:58:01 AM
Goodness! 5th round just made it. Volk loses but he is just another level. Definitely deserves another fight for this two.
Got to give Islam, all credit. 5 rounds and he barely stands. And a lot of thought a submission is almost 100%. Crazy fight.

I don't think Islam had proven himself against the no 1 P4P. He didn't dominate this fight.
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February 11, 2023, 12:41:07 PM
He could be the pie shitter.  But at least it's the first match of the event.  It's gonna be easy to set up another lottery ticket.
Honestly, I always find these the most frustrating. Since, you make a bet, maybe all you can afford to bet for the weekend, and then all that buzz, and excitement that comes with betting dies in the first fight. I hate it, and it's usually what happens to me. He's on my actual betting slip by the way, so I'd advise you change it Tongue.

I've actually put Makhachev on my betting slip, just because it was a little extra value; not much though obviously. Anyway, the reason being; I like Volk, and I'm actually rooting for him, but the disadvantages this guy has in physical size, and wrestling alone makes me nervous for him. However, the actual reason is because win or lose, I get something (unless the others on my betting slip mess up obviously). Either Volk wins, and I'm happy because that's who I'm supporting or Mak takes it, and makes me some money. Win, win right? I can almost guarantee you it won't get to that, as tokeweed said the very first fight will probably mess it up.
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February 11, 2023, 11:52:27 AM
Here are the ceremonial weigh ins and the face off for those of you guys who still hasn't made their bets, parlays, lottery ticket or whatever.  A couple of guys missed weight and one of them is at the top of my lottery ticket.  Mother fking Tukhugov decided that he doesn't like to make weight today.  Lolol.  I should've known...  The weight cut has always been a problem for the guy.

He could be the pie shitter.  But at least it's the first match of the event.  It's gonna be easy to set up another lottery ticket.

UFC 284:  Ceremonial Weigh Ins
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UF_WZxQPqwk

Champ Islam Makhachev (155) vs Alexander Volkanovski (154.5)
Yair Rodriguez (145) vs Josh Emmett (145)
Randy Brown (171) vs Jack Della Maddalena (171)
Parker Porter (264) vs Justin Tafa (266)
Jimmy Crute (204.5) vs Alonzo Menifield (206)
Modestas Bukauskas (206) vs Tyson Pedro (206)
Melsik Baghdasaryan (146) vs Josh Culibao (146)
Kleydson Rodrigues (127)* vs Shannon Ross (125.5)
Jamie Mullarkey (155) vs Francisco Prado (154.5)
Jack Jenkins (145.5) vs Don Shainis (146)
Loma Lookboonmee (115.5) vs Elise Reed (115.5)
Blake Bilder (146) vs Shane Young (145.5)
Elves Brenner (155.5) vs Zubaira Tukhugov (157.5)*

*Missed weight
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February 11, 2023, 04:51:46 AM
Now here are my picks and prediction for the UFC 284 Makhachev vs. Volkanovski

Islam Makhachev VS Alexander Volkanovski

The stake odds for this fight are 1.29 for Makhachev, and 4.10 for Volkanovski, for me because of the weight advantage of Makhachev, and height surely it will all come in handy with his Dagestan wrestling, and for this fight, and even though Volkanovski is a calculating fighter but surely Islam Makhachev strength just pulverize Charles Oliveira, and for this Islam, Makhachev has the defense and can counter the striking Volkanovski, and Alex Volkanovski just fought 2 wrestlers and that is Chad Mendes and Darren Elkins but those two isn't in the level of Islam Makhachev and this is the 1st time for Volkanovski to fight a southpaw fighter, Brian Ortega is a switching southpaw and Makhachev is a pure southpaw fighter, so this is going to be a new fight for him and because of that I am going with Islam Makhachev and will go with a win for a submission,

Yair Rodriguez VS Josh Emmett

The stake odds for this fight are 1.57 for Rodriguez and 2.60 for Emmett, this is a complete opposite of a fighter, Rodriguez is a much more technical and more calculating fighter, while Emmett, is an aggressive powerhouse there could be a little technicality in it, but he will surely get to his business with his power, but for me, Yair Rodriguez can easily check on this with his left hooks and kicks if Josh Emmett would just blitz towards Rodriguez the counter from Yair could definitely end this fight so my pick would be Yair Rodriguez,

Randy Brown VS Jack Della Maddalena

The stake odds for this fight are 3.70 for Brown and 1.34 for Della Maddalena, For this fight, Jack Della Maddelena is a boxer, he could surely move like one and could fight like one, but Randy Brown could throw those leg kicks and Della Maddalena doesn't really check on those leg kicks and he could surely damage Jack's leg in the process, and sometimes those unpredictable kicks from Brown could be a pressure for Della Maddalena, but as a boxer Jack Della Maddalena defense is great he is like a wall and as a boxer, he could check on those kicks from Randy Brown and he could win this with a counter, so my pick will be Jack Della Maddalena and would go bet on 3rd round TKO/KO
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February 11, 2023, 04:20:02 AM
I am really excited about this fight and pretty much here are my prediction for the UFC 284

Islam Makhachev (-400)
Alexander Volkanovski (+310)

This is a sure lot of profit when Alexander Volkanovski wins this, and many are doubting him and saying that Volkanovski will not have any chance at all, and yes for this fight Makhachev has an advantage with his weight, and Volkanovski coming from a lighter division will surely struggle, and yeah Makchachev is bigger than Volkanovski, but for me, Alex Volkanovski is faster than Makhachev he already said that Islam Makhachev will surely take him down but Alex Volkanovski already knew this he just got to find a way to stand back up again fast, and Alex Volkanovski Speed is really something he might give Islam Makhachev a hard time with that insane speed, and Volkanovski will surely blitz through Makhachev and finding ways to make the fight winnable for him, I want to see those jabs and leg kick from Volkanovski and he could win this with a decision for him winning,

Yair Rodriguez (-190)
Josh Emmett (+160)

Yair Rodriguez is a technical fighter well these two fighters surely have the opposite style and if Rodriguez is a more technical approach John Emmett will come to you without hesitation, but if Yair Rodriguez can intercepts all of that into a counter then I think Yair Rodriguez can win this so my pick is Yair Rodriguez,

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February 10, 2023, 10:26:44 PM

I think UFC should add a clause of "having minimum wrestling or grappling skills of black belt" in contract when they sign fighters. Wrestling gives to much advantage in the fight. Otherwise the sports turns from mix martial arts into "try to beat wrestler with your other fighting style".

From the interview I have also found out that Colby Covington was offered 4 times to fight Chimaev, and he had refused all offers. Chimaev dreams to have UFC tournament in Sweden, in his second home. He said that UFC had only 1 tournament in Sweden, he wants it back.

Remember when he announced his retirement? It turned out he has covid-19, but one of the doctors gave him false diagnose - lung cancer. Because Chimaev was coughing with blood and on xray there were some strange black dots. Switching to different doctor helped. Remember his fight against Li Jingliang? How dominant he was, how he put Li up and went to Danas side of the octagon Cheesy ? Before that fight he had only 1 month of training, after a year of being sick. He said he was in a rush in that fight, because he was loosing stamina quick. Several months before the fight, he had dyspnea even after passing several floors.



I didn't know he got health issues like that I thought that he has just had Covid-19, with that really scary lung cancer I really didn't know it, but maybe the serious issue with his health he was talking about might be real, the one were he was stopped in cutting weight by his doctor, man I mean that is some serious thing and he doesn't want to discuss it, for some reason, but I really wish him well, for him to be used by the UFC in wanting to be on top, with something so serious like that man I will also do everything I can to really take it, and that fight with Li Jingliang surely skyrocket his career so much though,


Burns is like what one of the best submission artists in the UFC, and he's probably more rounded than Chimaev himself. I wouldn't be so confident that Chimaev would win the rematch. I think it needs to happen, just because that first fight was so close. Burns throwing up submissions attempts while Chimaev has him stacked, then Chimaev doesn't even go back to the ground. You can call it ego if you want, but early in that fight you could see that he was trying to get Burns on the mat. That's is until he found out it wasn't going to be easy. Then, they go to the stand up, and Burns drops him nearly knocking him out.

I honestly, had Burns up in that fight, and I think a lot of other people would've too. I'm not saying it was a robbery because it was a close fight, and obviously I'm not saying that Chimaev isn't the better fighter, since it was a close fight. I just don't like how underestimated Burns is. He legitimately could be the champion.

I agree with you brother, seeing how Khamzat Chimaev struggle so much in that fight I see Kevin Holland struggle aswell with Gilbert Burns when they fight, and I think if Gilbert Burns could be given a chance I think he can also be a double belt champion aswell, he surely got the skill and heart, and Khamzat Chimaev really underestimated Gilbert Burns here and that ego of his kick in, even though his coach or his corner was pretty much mad for not doing the path of the way to victory and giving his all in the 1st round it nearly cost him a lost, and now I also want to see a rematch against this two aswell, and Paolo Costa too,

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February 10, 2023, 09:12:21 PM
Bookies are not rooting for Volkaanovski however. Personally, I wanted Volkanovski to win and remain at the top still as he had defended the title before. He just has to avoid the takedown by countering it with his accurate strike or by knee and this will fall as one of the upsets again.

Once Makhachev wins in this weight class, this will be another set of fights for him, another to challenge by the guys in featherweight which will be an opportunity for bettors though.
If Volkanovski can beat Makhachev, I think he's a monster since he's already destroy every fighters in featherweight and he's able to win against top 2 P4P rank.

It's possible for other featherweight's fighter will challenge Makhachev, but there's no better fighter except Max Holloway, even Holloway is a good fighter, he have been beaten by Volkanovski for 3 times. He ever fight with Dustin Poirier which is top 3 rank in lightweight, but he's lose.

So if Makhachev beat Volkanovski, technically he already beat Holloway too.

I can easily agree that Volkanovski is a monster, but gonna try to start a discussion why he is not going to win Cheesy First of all it is a very rare case when a fighter advances to other weight class and performs well there. Going down in a weight class is different. But when you go up to fight against a champion and top2 p2p, imho this is a suicide mission. Islam will be only a weigh-ins a lightweight, next day he will be a welterweight Cheesy. This will be first time Volkanovski fighting as a lightweight. No warm-up fight, straight against champ... I wont stop saying that wrestler beats striker. Volkanovski, I think, had only 1 or 2 (probably only Ortega) good wrestler opponents. I wish this fight to have more drama, but I think everyone knows how it is going to end.

Dagestani wrestling is also very much different from American wrestling. We will certainly witness Alexander the great have a very hard time on the ground with Islam. This might become a new experience for the Australian, however, not a very welcome experience hehehe.

Also, what is this pound for pound best UFC fighter in the world? This is nothing. The UFC only created this for hype and promotion for another type of storyline.
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February 10, 2023, 06:35:50 PM
I already placed my bet, Islam Makhachev and Yair Rodriguez in a parlay, $10 to win $20, it is not a big deal but it should be an easy win.

I'm not sure about Yair's fight, he should win and become the second Mexican champ, but it will be a hard fight because his opponent has a big KO power, so, let's see how that fight goes.
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February 10, 2023, 05:59:51 PM
Fighters from Australia could have small advantage this time because of time zone and support from home crowd, but I don't think this will matter much for main event.
Co-main event is going to be much more competitive and I am not sure who is going to win, but I like the odds on Josh Emmett very much.
Randy Brown is going to be my surprise of the night, he has a big reach advantage and odds on him are amazing.
Here are my main predictions for upcoming UFC event:

Islam Makhachev win by submission.
Josh Emmett
Randy Brown
Justin Tafa
Zubaira Tukhugov
Joshua Culibao

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February 10, 2023, 01:50:18 PM
Anyway, let's get to my predictions for the up, and coming event:

Alexander Volkanovski
Yair Rodriguez
Jack Della Maddalena
Parker Porter
Jimmy Crute
Tyson Pedro
Joshua Culibao
Kleydson Rodrigues
Jamie Mullarkey
Jack Jenkins
Loma Lookboonmee
Blake Bilder
Zubaira Tukhugov

Looks like a good event to me, looking forward to both Mullarkey's fight, and Maddalena's. I'm quite confident on the Yair Rodriguez pick, I feel he just has the edge. Culibao, I'm a little worried about, but I do give him a slight edge, and it does seem like most bookies are also giving him the slight edge. I probably won't be betting much on this one or I'll try to keep my accumulator quite short.
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February 10, 2023, 12:00:53 PM
Volk was also training for the submission game. He had been in the sport for years, he wouldn't panic to get back on his feet and give up his back easily. But because  Islam is huge, he may not be able to stop him and will be an arm triangle again.

Volk will keep Islam guessing with just a 1,2 strike so he will not last fighting on his feet. He will takedown. That KO statement is a bull.

He start to make me think I bet on the wrong person by saying he will try to knock out Volk. If he does I think he will lose to a decision because Volk is a master at striking. I think Makhachev will run out of stamina if he stays striking with volk in the 1st round and will not take him down after he has exhausted himself. I hope he goes in to this fight and tries to take down instantly because he will get tired and volk will win this decisively. I might cancel my submission ticket now Sad
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February 10, 2023, 11:45:17 AM
So the press conference happened earlier and it looks to me like Makhachev is playing mind games by saying that he wants to KO Volk...  Not happening.  It's gonna be via submission and if anything I feel like it's gonna be a rear naked choke.  Dunno...  I'm just talking out of my ass rn as somehow a rear naked choke popped in my head just now.  Cheesy Cheesy

UFC 284:  Pre Fight Press Conference
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6V_MfxTdFj0

Live weigh ins will be a few hours later.  I hope to see everybody having a good weight cut so in turn we have a good event.  GL to all your bets!

UFC 284:  Live Weigh In Show
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MagR6zyYtA

Volk was also training for the submission game. He had been in the sport for years, he wouldn't panic to get back on his feet and give up his back easily. But because  Islam is huge, he may not be able to stop him and will be an arm triangle again.

Volk will keep Islam guessing with just a 1,2 strike so he will not last fighting on his feet. He will takedown. That KO statement is a bull.
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February 10, 2023, 10:29:37 AM
If Jon Bones Jones beats Cyril Gane and has 7 fights left on his contract who is the next person to challenge him because if he beats Gane I think he holds the title until he retires. The heavyweight division looks very thin without Ngannou. Could the ufc approach Ngannou again knowing that Jon Jones would be a super fight and if Ngannou does not come back Jones keeps the title until he decides to end his ufc career?
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February 10, 2023, 08:02:16 AM
So the press conference happened earlier and it looks to me like Makhachev is playing mind games by saying that he wants to KO Volk...  Not happening.  It's gonna be via submission and if anything I feel like it's gonna be a rear naked choke.  Dunno...  I'm just talking out of my ass rn as somehow a rear naked choke popped in my head just now.  Cheesy Cheesy

UFC 284:  Pre Fight Press Conference
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6V_MfxTdFj0

Live weigh ins will be a few hours later.  I hope to see everybody having a good weight cut so in turn we have a good event.  GL to all your bets!

UFC 284:  Live Weigh In Show
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MagR6zyYtA
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February 10, 2023, 06:24:16 AM
Actually, they already fight and if a rematch could take place Khamzat Chimaev will still win it, Gilbert Burns doesn't really stand a chance against Khamzat Chimaev the coach of Chimaev have said to take Burns to the ground because he has suggested that Burns go to be hard to fight toe to toe with him and it was, but on their rematch, I want to see Khamzat Chimaev try to take Gilbert Burns to the ground if what could really happen,

Burns is like what one of the best submission artists in the UFC, and he's probably more rounded than Chimaev himself. I wouldn't be so confident that Chimaev would win the rematch. I think it needs to happen, just because that first fight was so close. Burns throwing up submissions attempts while Chimaev has him stacked, then Chimaev doesn't even go back to the ground. You can call it ego if you want, but early in that fight you could see that he was trying to get Burns on the mat. That's is until he found out it wasn't going to be easy. Then, they go to the stand up, and Burns drops him nearly knocking him out.

I honestly, had Burns up in that fight, and I think a lot of other people would've too. I'm not saying it was a robbery because it was a close fight, and obviously I'm not saying that Chimaev isn't the better fighter, since it was a close fight. I just don't like how underestimated Burns is. He legitimately could be the champion.
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February 10, 2023, 05:18:36 AM

Several hours ago I have finished watching latest interview with Chimaev, and he has told that he could go fight Burns on the ground and win him. He has said that his wrestling and grappling is better than Burns. But, he has told/bet with his brother that he will rip Burns head off. So he was after KO in that fight. That is why his coach was angry on him, because they thought Burns was more dangerous standing, than on the ground (https://youtu.be/hRXML6AQgmw?t=1112 just turn on English subs if you want to watch it). Maybe he is just showing off or as usual, feels like a invincible.

Chimaev was offered to fight Whittaker. But he did not want to fight in Australia, because of visa problems (dont know if this is a big issue for fighters). Instead he has offered to fight in the US, Vegas, while he has valid visa till April. Whittaker refuses that offer. Or Chimaev was always ready to fight in UAE.

Surely Khamzat Chimaev will win when they fought on the ground and they are saying that it is their game plan all along, but as I have said that he will surely struggle with Gilbert Burns, because of his physique, and surely that, given Burns a beating while standing but I have watched that fight because I want to see if Chimaev can really submit Gilbert Burns on the ground but I didn't expect he will go toe to toe against him, throwing their plan to the window,

Robert Whittaker is aware of the dominant ground game of Khamzat Chimaev, and maybe he wants to try Khamzat for sure, but surely if he really wants to fight Chimaev, he needs to cut down or maybe Khamzat Chimaev can gain weight for their fight,

I think UFC should add a clause of "having minimum wrestling or grappling skills of black belt" in contract when they sign fighters. Wrestling gives to much advantage in the fight. Otherwise the sports turns from mix martial arts into "try to beat wrestler with your other fighting style".

From the interview I have also found out that Colby Covington was offered 4 times to fight Chimaev, and he had refused all offers. Chimaev dreams to have UFC tournament in Sweden, in his second home. He said that UFC had only 1 tournament in Sweden, he wants it back.

Remember when he announced his retirement? It turned out he has covid-19, but one of the doctors gave him false diagnose - lung cancer. Because Chimaev was coughing with blood and on xray there were some strange black dots. Switching to different doctor helped. Remember his fight against Li Jingliang? How dominant he was, how he put Li up and went to Danas side of the octagon Cheesy ? Before that fight he had only 1 month of training, after a year of being sick. He said he was in a rush in that fight, because he was loosing stamina quick. Several months before the fight, he had dyspnea even after passing several floors.

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February 10, 2023, 03:31:40 AM

Several hours ago I have finished watching latest interview with Chimaev, and he has told that he could go fight Burns on the ground and win him. He has said that his wrestling and grappling is better than Burns. But, he has told/bet with his brother that he will rip Burns head off. So he was after KO in that fight. That is why his coach was angry on him, because they thought Burns was more dangerous standing, than on the ground (https://youtu.be/hRXML6AQgmw?t=1112 just turn on English subs if you want to watch it). Maybe he is just showing off or as usual, feels like a invincible.

Chimaev was offered to fight Whittaker. But he did not want to fight in Australia, because of visa problems (dont know if this is a big issue for fighters). Instead he has offered to fight in the US, Vegas, while he has valid visa till April. Whittaker refuses that offer. Or Chimaev was always ready to fight in UAE.

Surely Khamzat Chimaev will win when they fought on the ground and they are saying that it is their game plan all along, but as I have said that he will surely struggle with Gilbert Burns, because of his physique, and surely that, given Burns a beating while standing but I have watched that fight because I want to see if Chimaev can really submit Gilbert Burns on the ground but I didn't expect he will go toe to toe against him, throwing their plan to the window,

Robert Whittaker is aware of the dominant ground game of Khamzat Chimaev, and maybe he wants to try Khamzat for sure, but surely if he really wants to fight Chimaev, he needs to cut down or maybe Khamzat Chimaev can gain weight for their fight,


Khamzat is actually going to be the one to win in this fight. He is more of an all rounded Fighter compared to his opponent Gilbert Burns. I think this is going to be a very close fight between both of these fighters. I honestly do not think that, even though Khamzat is very confident about his ground game, he is still not going to try to wrestle for a long time with Gilbert Burns. Because as you said Burns can submit anyone. We have seen Khamzat get tagged before. So we know that can happen. He is a good fighter but not invincible.


Actually, they already fight and if a rematch could take place Khamzat Chimaev will still win it, Gilbert Burns doesn't really stand a chance against Khamzat Chimaev the coach of Chimaev have said to take Burns to the ground because he has suggested that Burns go to be hard to fight toe to toe with him and it was, but on their rematch, I want to see Khamzat Chimaev try to take Gilbert Burns to the ground if what could really happen,
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February 09, 2023, 08:06:38 PM
Yeah, Burns is getting on, but he legitimately has a chance at the title, and I'd love to see him get it. Seems like a good guy outside the cage, and he's entertaining regardless of what happens. Definitely, has some of the best submissions inside the UFC, but can also bang as we saw against Chimaev. Remember, everyone was expecting Chimaev to go in there, and wipe the floor with Burns like every single other fight, but it turned out to be a real slog, and Chimaev was the one to get hurt the most. That face plant, I can still visualise perfectly Cheesy. #

I just want Burns to have another shot, and get that title.
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February 09, 2023, 05:43:02 PM
I do think fighters need to sell themselves though, they don't have to act like clowns or even like Conor, but bring some personality into it otherwise people tend to not follow you. My favourite fighters all have a bit of personality about them, and I don't think they act like clowns. Sometimes, Izzy can overstep the fact for sure, but generally if you listen to him he's quite level headed, and has some insightful conversations.
Fighters are going to promote themselves best with their performance in octagon, and problem start when they think a lot about performance outside octagon.
I think this is the case with Adesanya now, he is spending a lot of time working on costumes, music and show before fight starts, maybe that is the problem in his recent fights.
My favorite fighters are humble, they have personality but they are not trying to always act and pretend they are something different.
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