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Quote from: bbc.reporter on December 16, 2022, 02:51:24 AM

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Obviously, there is some kind of mutual understanding going on between Dana and Paddy. Dana wants him to be the next poster boy for sure.
I don't know if this is going to be a wise decision made by the UFC or not. Because I certainly think that Paddy has the potential to be the next poster boy for the UFC.

Terrible performance by Paddy Pimblett and clearly lost the first and third round and he still won the fight, what a magical performance by the judges Cheesy

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Dana White Privilege strikes again. I wish they'd stop doing three rounds fights. They're too short and far too hard to judge when most of them go the distance. Paddy was embarrassing after that fight. Terrible attitude and begging Dana for the fight of the night bonus. Gonna be interesting where they go after this. No doubt Paddy will just fight bums to get the hype train back on track. They should make Paddy V Connor for his comeback fight. That would do well and Connor needs someone he can beat. Two hype trains colliding and only one will survive Cheesy

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Agreed that Paddy the baddy has Dana White privleges similar to Conor, also agreed that Paddy lost the fight. However, blaming the judges' decision on Dana might be incorrect. Those judges are not employed by the UFC. They are sent by the athletic commission from the state of Nevada, similar to the referees. Dana does not have control on the officiating that occurs in the octagon.

I speculate the next opponent for Paddy might be a dead body and the oddsmakers will list him as an underdog hehehe.

UFC fans understand the robbery when they see one. Obviously, Jared made Paddy back away after significant strikes and in the 3rd round, most of the control comes from Jared. Paddy still cocky in the fight interview when he knew he didn't get the fight and everybody shouts boo at him.

But what else can be done, the judges decide and it could end the hype if Paddy loses and Dana wouldn't make anything out of it if Jared wins. Something Dana would have to think about later to give Paddy an opponent that wouldn't box.

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Quote from: hilariousetc on December 14, 2022, 04:56:08 PM

Quote from: eaLiTy on December 11, 2022, 12:26:12 AM

Quote from: Smack That Ace on December 10, 2022, 07:57:19 PM

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Obviously, there is some kind of mutual understanding going on between Dana and Paddy. Dana wants him to be the next poster boy for sure.
I don't know if this is going to be a wise decision made by the UFC or not. Because I certainly think that Paddy has the potential to be the next poster boy for the UFC.

Terrible performance by Paddy Pimblett and clearly lost the first and third round and he still won the fight, what a magical performance by the judges Cheesy

.

Dana White Privilege strikes again. I wish they'd stop doing three rounds fights. They're too short and far too hard to judge when most of them go the distance. Paddy was embarrassing after that fight. Terrible attitude and begging Dana for the fight of the night bonus. Gonna be interesting where they go after this. No doubt Paddy will just fight bums to get the hype train back on track. They should make Paddy V Connor for his comeback fight. That would do well and Connor needs someone he can beat. Two hype trains colliding and only one will survive Cheesy

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Agreed that Paddy the baddy has Dana White privleges similar to Conor, also agreed that Paddy lost the fight. However, blaming the judges' decision on Dana might be incorrect. Those judges are not employed by the UFC. They are sent by the athletic commission from the state of Nevada, similar to the referees. Dana does not have control on the officiating that occurs in the octagon.

I speculate the next opponent for Paddy might be a dead body and the oddsmakers will list him as an underdog hehehe.

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Quote from: TopTort777 on December 15, 2022, 12:46:19 PM

Indeed main event is interesting to watch. I dont even know who is better Strickland or Cannonier. According to bookies, both have close chances to win. I would say that Cannonier looks better on the paper, he had stronger opponents, the fights he had lost against top opponents were by decision mostly. I think he will take a win this time.

Surely a great match one was lost to Adesanya and one to Pereira, now Sean Strickland could result in takedowns, but knowing him 1st round will be on the stand-up, for this I got Cannonier having good strength with his striking, while Strickland has some technical sticking up nevertheless he can not risk that if Cannonier has a good chin and a better counter, and even though Strickland has a ground game Jared Cannonier has superb takedown defense just like he did with Derek Brunson, and not like Brunson Strickland has a tendency to give-up on takedowns if it is not successful, so this is going to be an interesting fight,

Quote from: Balmain on December 15, 2022, 02:07:35 PM

For me, Cannonier seems to be the more comfortable side to win. Connonier fought harder opponents, yes, can you look at the names he lost, to say one by one, Blachowicz, Whittaker, Adasenya, Teixeira. I don't know how this fight will end, but Connonier will win this fight, maybe by referee decision. He's even physically superior. I assume you have more variety in your fighting abilities. Strickland often pushes his opponent and tries to cause damage by throwing straight posts.

Indeed! I sure think aswell, for me Jared Cannonier is a comfortable side to bet on, and even though the odds are a little close for me chance that Strickland will have a hard time with the takedowns for sure, but surely Sean Strickland has a sense of having the fight to go the distance for sure, just like what he did with his recent fights and winning it with a decision, but for me, Cannonier should counter this with a counter of his own, a good timing on counter can win Jared a KO against Strickland,

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Quote from: tokeweed on December 15, 2022, 09:02:10 AM

I think there's a chance that Cannonier KO's Strickland this weekend. I watched Cannonier's media day interview and he said that Strickland said he wants to 'duke it out' in the middle of the cage. That's def a bad idea as Strickland was just KO'd by Pereira a tad over a couple of months ago.

It's possible we are going to see KO in this fight, Strickland lost with KO two times same as Cannonier, but Cannonier have much better KO win record, 10 KO's from 15 wins in MMA.
I would rule out submission win from anyone, and some special bet could pay off very nice, for example Cannoiner win by KO or points.

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Quote from: hilariousetc on December 14, 2022, 04:56:08 PM

Just let em fight on until one of them gets knocked down or taken down. I really think there should be more draws given in both MMA and boxing. There's a lot of times when fights are far too close or the judges just get it massively wrong. Imagine losing your unbeaten record just due to a bad ref. Start giving out more draws and make the rematches happen.

I think there should be more draw too. We could still score it by rounds, but Carla vs Thug Rose comes to mind. No one won that fight. It was probably one of the worst fights I've seen, and there was basically no action whatsoever. So, in my mind I was hoping they scored that as a draw, since nothing actually happened. It was almost disgraceful how nothing happened that fight.

I don't see the UFC doing it though. It's very much a win or lose sport.

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Quote from: TopTort777 on December 15, 2022, 10:33:01 AM

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Cant believe finally it happened Cheesy

He has been in UFC ranking for ages, while being practically inactive. After a loss to Khabib, he had only 3 fights (win against old Cerrone and two losses to Poirier). That is ridiculous. I know that he is a money cow for UFC, but he should not be in rating with such poor and bad activity. Also I would have removed Ferguson. After a win over Cerrone (again him Cheesy

), he has 5 straight losses. Such fighter simply can not be top15.

One of the reasons for the inactivity is that nasty leg snap though. Although, obviously he probably shouldn't be in the rankings, we all know that he's good enough. You put him against most of the fighters outside the top five, and he probably wins, and I'm hoping that's what Dana decides to do. Since, putting him against the top fighters is just going to tarnish his reputation further.

It's quite possible with some favourable matchmaking he'll start putting some wins together, and reach some of the heights he was at before.

Are you saying that current Conor McGregor would beat anyone aside top5 of lightweight division or prime McGregor? Currently, any top10 will beat him imho. And the only reason why he was in top15 list, to have an excuse why he is fighting this or that guy, when he picks his opponent, but not UFC gives him a bunch of opponents to fight against. He was in top15 because fans would not understand why unranked fighters is having a title shot so early or fights someone that is about to have a title shot.

P.S. I've heard rumours that he will fight Chandler and if he wins, he will get a title fight Cheesy

I also read an article yesterday that suggested Conor McGregor would be given a shot at a title fight if he wins his comeback fight. Not sure how fair this is, but it's the right business decision. Given that McGregor is on so many steroids he is making the Liver King seem tame, I would agree that he is probably the most dangerous fighter he's ever been right now. In six months when that stuff is all out of his system I don't know what lingering effects will remain, but I wouldn't want to be the first guy to step in a ring with him. He looks downright scary to be around with how ripped he is at the moment.

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Quote from: TopTort777 on December 15, 2022, 12:46:19 PM

Indeed main event is interesting to watch. I dont even know who is better Strickland or Cannonier. According to bookies, both have close chances to win. I would say that Cannonier looks better on the paper, he had stronger opponents, the fights he had lost against top opponents were by decision mostly. I think he will take a win this time.

For me, Cannonier seems to be the more comfortable side to win. Connonier fought harder opponents, yes, can you look at the names he lost, to say one by one, Blachowicz, Whittaker, Adasenya, Teixeira. I don't know how this fight will end, but Connonier will win this fight, maybe by referee decision. He's even physically superior. I assume you have more variety in your fighting abilities. Strickland often pushes his opponent and tries to cause damage by throwing straight posts.

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Indeed main event is interesting to watch. I dont even know who is better Strickland or Cannonier. According to bookies, both have close chances to win. I would say that Cannonier looks better on the paper, he had stronger opponents, the fights he had lost against top opponents were by decision mostly. I think he will take a win this time.

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I really think we got a great event coming this weekend, and that is UFC Fight Night: Cannonier vs. Strickland for both these fighters here are their preview fights so we can have a comparison of what both these fighters can do,

Jared Cannonier - Click the name to watch the fight

Against - Kelvin Gastelum

Against - Derek Brunson

Sean Strickland - Click the name to watch the fight

Against - Uriah Hall

Against - Jack Harmansson

Other than the main event I think that the Arman Tsarukyan VS Damir Ismagulov will be a thrilling fight to watch aswell, Said Nurmagomedov VS Saidyokub Kakhramonov is another fight that I am looking forward to seeing, and surely the fighting kittens the only woman fight in this event for this two beautiful ladies Cheyanne Vlismas VS Cory McKenna is what I am looking forward to really see, and will surely post my picks on this fights before the match start,

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Quote from: Welsh on December 15, 2022, 10:15:26 AM

Quote from: TopTort777 on December 15, 2022, 05:21:59 AM

Cant believe finally it happened Cheesy

He has been in UFC ranking for ages, while being practically inactive. After a loss to Khabib, he had only 3 fights (win against old Cerrone and two losses to Poirier). That is ridiculous. I know that he is a money cow for UFC, but he should not be in rating with such poor and bad activity. Also I would have removed Ferguson. After a win over Cerrone (again him Cheesy

), he has 5 straight losses. Such fighter simply can not be top15.

One of the reasons for the inactivity is that nasty leg snap though. Although, obviously he probably shouldn't be in the rankings, we all know that he's good enough. You put him against most of the fighters outside the top five, and he probably wins, and I'm hoping that's what Dana decides to do. Since, putting him against the top fighters is just going to tarnish his reputation further.

It's quite possible with some favourable matchmaking he'll start putting some wins together, and reach some of the heights he was at before.

Are you saying that current Conor McGregor would beat anyone aside top5 of lightweight division or prime McGregor? Currently, any top10 will beat him imho. And the only reason why he was in top15 list, to have an excuse why he is fighting this or that guy, when he picks his opponent, but not UFC gives him a bunch of opponents to fight against. He was in top15 because fans would not understand why unranked fighters is having a title shot so early or fights someone that is about to have a title shot.

P.S. I've heard rumours that he will fight Chandler and if he wins, he will get a title fight Cheesy

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Quote from: TopTort777 on December 15, 2022, 05:21:59 AM

Cant believe finally it happened Cheesy

He has been in UFC ranking for ages, while being practically inactive. After a loss to Khabib, he had only 3 fights (win against old Cerrone and two losses to Poirier). That is ridiculous. I know that he is a money cow for UFC, but he should not be in rating with such poor and bad activity. Also I would have removed Ferguson. After a win over Cerrone (again him Cheesy

), he has 5 straight losses. Such fighter simply can not be top15.

One of the reasons for the inactivity is that nasty leg snap though. Although, obviously he probably shouldn't be in the rankings, we all know that he's good enough. You put him against most of the fighters outside the top five, and he probably wins, and I'm hoping that's what Dana decides to do. Since, putting him against the top fighters is just going to tarnish his reputation further.

It's quite possible with some favourable matchmaking he'll start putting some wins together, and reach some of the heights he was at before.

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Quote from: notblox1 on December 14, 2022, 01:54:04 PM

For this weekend we have last UFC event in this year and Jared Cannonier vs Sean Strickland should be interesting main event to watch.
It's hard to predict a winner here but I would give slight advantage to Cannonier, but there are no real favorite in this fight.
My main bet for this event is on Khabib's cousin Said Nurmagomedov to win against Saidyokub Kakhramonov, and odds are very good.

I think there's a chance that Cannonier KO's Strickland this weekend. I watched Cannonier's media day interview and he said that Strickland said he wants to 'duke it out' in the middle of the cage. That's def a bad idea as Strickland was just KO'd by Pereira a tad over a couple of months ago.

You guys can watch the interview here.

UFC Vegas 66: Cannonier Media Day
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqMONWn_DbA

As I got lucky at the last event, I'm gonna try to get lucky again with another lottery ticket. Cheesy

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Add: Albazi - Morozov - Marquez: 4.79
Add: Erosa - Vlismas - Battle: 24.98
Add: Nurmagomedov - Tsakuryan - Dober: 113.61
Add: Cannonier - Brundage - Garcia: 1182.50

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Quote from: notblox1 on December 14, 2022, 01:54:04 PM

From all MMA news I saw that Conor McGregor is removed from official UFC rankings, that just shows how relevant he is in MMA at the moment.

Cant believe finally it happened Cheesy

He has been in UFC ranking for ages, while being practically inactive. After a loss to Khabib, he had only 3 fights (win against old Cerrone and two losses to Poirier). That is ridiculous. I know that he is a money cow for UFC, but he should not be in rating with such poor and bad activity. Also I would have removed Ferguson. After a win over Cerrone (again him Cheesy

), he has 5 straight losses. Such fighter simply can not be top15.

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Quote from: OgNasty on December 12, 2022, 02:32:13 PM

Not a bad idea. At the very least I think that they could probably extend these fights a little more. Paddy even said that he felt he was the winner of the first two rounds so round 3 he just danced around and tried to maintain his victory. Make it a 6 round fight and I think the winner would be much more obvious. Just like the Suga Sean O'Malley fight, Paddy seemingly was nearing the end of what he had in the tank by round 3. 3 more rounds and it would have been very clear for the referees who the winner was. I'm not sure why Sean and Paddy are getting such short 3 round fights, but I'd like to see them extended so we can actually see a fight...

Many have said that Jared Gordon won the fight, but as Dana White has said maybe protecting a certain judge, he was not seeing any problem with the judge's decision and maybe finish off their opponent quickly with KO/TKO or a submission just like what Leon Edwards did with Kamaru Usman, for me, this is really a poor excuse to say, but on 2nd though he maybe had point, so I have said that maybe it was really good advice to certain fighters but still a bad excuse to saying that his judges really did nothing wrong, and I think extending the fight would surely not the solution but maybe it is a shot, but for me to give punishment to people doing the job poorly,

Quote from: inthelongrun on December 13, 2022, 07:19:29 AM

Bad decision-making is always a pain in the ass ever since they are involved in the fight business. I would like to see 5 judges on different sides of the octagon.

3 rounds are also too short for non-main event fights. The time gap between non-main events and main events is 10 minutes. So it's like becoming a champion is a whole different level because they are fighting for 25 minutes compared to 15 minutes. The televised time will probably become a problem so maybe they can make it 5 rounds for any fights which involved a top 5 fighter.

For me, it is a great idea in getting more judges and they have pretty much all sides of the octagon, but knowing Dana White this is surely not cost-efficient, and he will surely not allow such a thing because it will cost him a lot,

well maybe adding 1 more round I guess but surely it will affect certain fighters' gas tanks in going the distance it is a fair excuse in having fighters adapt in bring their gas tank in a long time well providing that they really need to go the distance anyway maybe not a bad idea after all,

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Quote from: eaLiTy on December 11, 2022, 12:26:12 AM

Quote from: Smack That Ace on December 10, 2022, 07:57:19 PM

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Obviously, there is some kind of mutual understanding going on between Dana and Paddy. Dana wants him to be the next poster boy for sure.
I don't know if this is going to be a wise decision made by the UFC or not. Because I certainly think that Paddy has the potential to be the next poster boy for the UFC.

Terrible performance by Paddy Pimblett and clearly lost the first and third round and he still won the fight, what a magical performance by the judges Cheesy

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Dana White Privilege strikes again. I wish they'd stop doing three rounds fights. They're too short and far too hard to judge when most of them go the distance. Paddy was embarrassing after that fight. Terrible attitude and begging Dana for the fight of the night bonus. Gonna be interesting where they go after this. No doubt Paddy will just fight bums to get the hype train back on track. They should make Paddy V Connor for his comeback fight. That would do well and Connor needs someone he can beat. Two hype trains colliding and only one will survive Cheesy

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Quote from: OgNasty on December 13, 2022, 01:00:59 PM

Maybe they need a better method for breaking a tie. Like a shootout in hockey or soccer. Maybe both fighters stand face to face and slap the shit out of each other until one of them gives up. Then you might not see fighters wasting time or clenching to get their decision victory. I don’t actually think this is a good idea, but something needs to be done about horrible judges playing favorites for whatever reason.

Just let em fight on until one of them gets knocked down or taken down. I really think there should be more draws given in both MMA and boxing. There's a lot of times when fights are far too close or the judges just get it massively wrong. Imagine losing your unbeaten record just due to a bad ref. Start giving out more draws and make the rematches happen.

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From all MMA news I saw that Conor McGregor is removed from official UFC rankings, that just shows how relevant he is in MMA at the moment.
For this weekend we have last UFC event in this year and Jared Cannonier vs Sean Strickland should be interesting main event to watch.
It's hard to predict a winner here but I would give slight advantage to Cannonier, but there are no real favorite in this fight.
My main bet for this event is on Khabib's cousin Said Nurmagomedov to win against Saidyokub Kakhramonov, and odds are very good.

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Hey guys, time to focus on the next event and share some notes from a betting perspective. Wink

And that's all that's all that should matter imho. Well... That and watching these guys throw leather. So yeah...

And here's a couple of vids to watch. I'm thinking Stickland isn't ready to face a guy like Cannonier after getting KO'd just a couple of months ago.

UFC Free Fight: Cannonier vs Hermansson
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGB5NZ5W1aE

UFC Free Fight: Strickland vs Allen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kdcac2kn0DM

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UFC Fight Night 216 - Multi Master Challenge
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I remember Pride or Dream (or some of old promotions) had specific rules: like if during fight time there is no obvious winner, then extra round is given, then another. If by the end of two extra rounds there is still no winner, then its a draw. I dont remember how exactly that rule sound, but it was like to win you must KO/TKO/submit your opponent, otherwise it will be a draw, as basically they dont count rounds and points. In short - kill or die. It was the Asian promotion, I remember that clearly. Such rule might work, but it hurts entertainment factor, because after 15-20min exhausted fighters mostly fight for oxygen, then their opponent.

Kinda like basketball. There has to be a winner and a tie-breaker is supposed to be provided to make sure someone has to win. It can't be called "ultimate" if it's not extreme. But maybe that rule was scratched out because combat sport is becoming mainstream and legitimized so the savage rules are now observed.

If another round was added, Jan will more than likely lose and many of us will win. Either submission or decision at least the people who like and bet on this match are not robbed as well.

Another round could be possible, if that was a 3-round fight. But since it was a 5-round title; I think non of last 15 years UFC fighters ever prepared for a 6-rounded fight.

Btw we have completely missed or forgot to discuss Raul Rosas Jr. fight in UFC 282. The think is not about the fight, but about the kid. He was only 17 when UFC signed him. Kid is the youngest fighter in UFC history to win a fight Cheesy

I liked how he copied McGregors "Dana! 50 g's BABYYYY!" Cheesy

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Quote from: OgNasty on December 13, 2022, 01:00:59 PM

Maybe they need a better method for breaking a tie. Like a shootout in hockey or soccer. Maybe both fighters stand face to face and slap the shit out of each other until one of them gives up. Then you might not see fighters wasting time or clenching to get their decision victory. I don’t actually think this is a good idea, but something needs to be done about horrible judges playing favorites for whatever reason.

What's different with UFC since they've fixed round and time about the fight, the round wouldn't get extended since there's a referee will stop it. The difference is hockey or soccer is transparent to show the score, while in UFC each judges doesn't show their scorecard until the match end. I don't think UFC will accept slap competition that you propose because there's already an official slap fighting championship.

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Quote from: cabron on December 13, 2022, 09:35:37 AM

Quote from: TopTort777 on December 13, 2022, 07:51:10 AM

I remember Pride or Dream (or some of old promotions) had specific rules: like if during fight time there is no obvious winner, then extra round is given, then another. If by the end of two extra rounds there is still no winner, then its a draw. I dont remember how exactly that rule sound, but it was like to win you must KO/TKO/submit your opponent, otherwise it will be a draw, as basically they dont count rounds and points. In short - kill or die. It was the Asian promotion, I remember that clearly. Such rule might work, but it hurts entertainment factor, because after 15-20min exhausted fighters mostly fight for oxygen, then their opponent.

Kinda like basketball. There has to be a winner and a tie-breaker is supposed to be provided to make sure someone has to win. It can't be called "ultimate" if it's not extreme. But maybe that rule was scratched out because combat sport is becoming mainstream and legitimized so the savage rules are now observed.

If another round was added, Jan will more than likely lose and many of us will win. Either submission or decision at least the people who like and bet on this match are not robbed as well.

Maybe they need a better method for breaking a tie. Like a shootout in hockey or soccer. Maybe both fighters stand face to face and slap the shit out of each other until one of them gives up. Then you might not see fighters wasting time or clenching to get their decision victory. I don’t actually think this is a good idea, but something needs to be done about horrible judges playing favorites for whatever reason.

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