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legendary
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January 17, 2023, 03:18:59 AM
Very controversy situation with Francis Ngannou. He is inactive for a year already. I hope he knows what he is doing. So far I havent heard he has signed different contract with anyone else. But I predict that promotions will now fight for him. UFC has made him famous. Now Francis is able to select an easy path - promotion with weaker heavyweight than UFC has, and sign a big contract with them. Beat few bags, grab billions and retire  Grin
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January 17, 2023, 03:17:47 AM
What a greedy man Francis Ngannou is. He is a living proof that if a person had poor and hungry childhood, he will think only about money. I cant believe he has left UFC even after they offered him highest payment in UFC history. Francis Ngannou only excuse was - he does not like the contract. He feels like he is a slave. He is a slave, but other are blind and dream to get into UFC. I dont believe that it is all about contract. If contract really was such a nightmare, everyone would reveal that long time ago.

Are you just saying this because you are upset about Francis Ngannou leaving the UFC, I really don't think wanting more is really bad or greedy if your intention was for your family alone, but we can not judge someone if what is his real intention why he needed high money for his contracts but also Francis Ngannou also wants health benefits for the rest of the fighters in the UFC I really think that is not a real greedy intention at all, and lastly he also wants to be free the feeling of not showing yourself on a boxing match is kind of something that he doesn't want,


Either Ngannou is greedy or you are not very smart and you don't understand the value of freedom.
Fighters have been complaining about bad conditions in UFC, no rights, no health insurance, and they are like a slaves for them, unless you are Connor McGregor.
I want to congratulate Ngannou for standing up and not getting bullied by Dana and his friends, maybe he can slap and abuse his wife but not heavyweight champions.
Slimy Dana even claimed that Ngannou escaped UFC because he is afraid of Jon Jones coming back, this guy is a piece of shit liar, even his own mother confirmed that.


I really think he has already shown enough to the UFC, and he is really great at changing plans when he is at the edge like he has shown against Cyril Gane, I really think that is remarkable indeed, so wanting freedom is really a great step in the right direction and wanting to change the organization for the better I think that is not really a greedy intention, aswell as wanting more money along as it is for the benefit of your family and for your future is a great thing to have, and as a fighter he knows he can not fight forever so securing his financial comes 1st,

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January 17, 2023, 03:10:41 AM
This weekend will be the UFC 283, and I'm excited about seeing Brandon Moreno in action, that guy already make me win some money and I'm sure he will win this one. I'm thinking about making a parlay with Gilbert Burns + Brandon Moreno + Glover Teixeira. I'm not sure about how much I will bet on it, but I see it's a nice x4.5
I think it's not an easy money, Monero vs Figueirido and Teixeira vs Hill are 50/50.

It's not a betting advice, but I'm more convinced Hill will beat Teixeira since Hill is quicker and have a power to knock down Teixeira. Although maybe split decision might high likely happen since judges always biased with favorited fighter.

The woman fight Lauren Murphy vs Jessica Andrade also interesting since Murphy is currently top 4 while Andrade is top 6, but Murphy is a heavy underdog in this fight.
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January 17, 2023, 02:43:55 AM
Now that the UFC Fight Night: Strickland vs. Imavov is already settled here are the results of my picks

Sean Strickland VS Nassourdine Imavov ROUND 5 DECISION - LOST

Sean Strickland just takes down Nassourdine Imavov while Imavov is having a hardtime on takedowns and repeatedly failed to takedown Strickland, this means Nassourdine Imavov is not on the level of another Dagestan wrestler, I think that he only took down strikers but against Sean Strickland that is also a wrestler you can see the difference Sean Strickland did a tremendous job in stopping the takedowns and giving a takedown to Nassourdine Imavov aswell, for me it was a close match Nassourdine Imavov did really great to the upper ranked Strickland since both fighters didn't have preparation but it was really a great fight,





The thing is, Imavov doesn't really do take downs.  The ones he attempted were out of desparation as Strickland knew he could take Imavov's punches so Strickland just walked Imavov down.  Lol.  Different story vs Cannonier.  Strickland couldn't walk Cannonier down even if he wanted to.  He could try but he'll be KO'd. 

It was a massive opportunity for Imavov but in hinsight he could be seeing taking it as a mistake.  I hope he got paid good money as Strickland did...
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January 16, 2023, 09:37:12 PM
This weekend will be the UFC 283, and I'm excited about seeing Brandon Moreno in action, that guy already make me win some money and I'm sure he will win this one. I'm thinking about making a parlay with Gilbert Burns + Brandon Moreno + Glover Teixeira. I'm not sure about how much I will bet on it, but I see it's a nice x4.5


What do you think guys? is that x4.5 easy money?
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January 16, 2023, 09:15:39 PM
What a greedy man Francis Ngannou is. He is a living proof that if a person had poor and hungry childhood, he will think only about money. I cant believe he has left UFC even after they offered him highest payment in UFC history. Francis Ngannou only excuse was - he does not like the contract. He feels like he is a slave. He is a slave, but other are blind and dream to get into UFC. I dont believe that it is all about contract. If contract really was such a nightmare, everyone would reveal that long time ago.
A greedy man will always like money no matter what's involved. Francis Ngannou can't be greedy and refused not to fight when money is placed. Try and make your fact right.
Francis Ngannou's reasons for calling his boxing career a quit are okay. He has every right to express how he feels or quit anytime he feels like. He is not prohibited of do such.
It's not about being greedy or not. It's about respecting himself and his decisions.

It is not about being greedy in my opinion. It is also important to note that it is not just about him getting money. It seems to me that he is trying to make a change in his life. It is very likely that he wants to see fighters getting very well paid in the future. This is the reason why he is trying to make a change by doing these things. But who knows? There is also a possibility that it might just be a matter of money as well
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January 16, 2023, 06:00:58 PM
What a greedy man Francis Ngannou is. He is a living proof that if a person had poor and hungry childhood, he will think only about money. I cant believe he has left UFC even after they offered him highest payment in UFC history. Francis Ngannou only excuse was - he does not like the contract. He feels like he is a slave. He is a slave, but other are blind and dream to get into UFC. I dont believe that it is all about contract. If contract really was such a nightmare, everyone would reveal that long time ago.
A greedy man will always like money no matter what's involved. Francis Ngannou can't be greedy and refused not to fight when money is placed. Try and make your fact right.

Francis Ngannou's reasons for calling his boxing career a quit are okay. He has every right to express how he feels or quit anytime he feels like. He is not prohibited of do such.

It's not about being greedy or not. It's about respecting himself and his decisions.
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January 16, 2023, 05:03:14 PM
What a greedy man Francis Ngannou is.
Either Ngannou is greedy or you are not very smart and you don't understand the value of freedom.
Fighters have been complaining about bad conditions in UFC, no rights, no health insurance, and they are like a slaves for them, unless you are Connor McGregor.
I want to congratulate Ngannou for standing up and not getting bullied by Dana and his friends, maybe he can slap and abuse his wife but not heavyweight champions.
Slimy Dana even claimed that Ngannou escaped UFC because he is afraid of Jon Jones coming back, this guy is a piece of shit liar, even his own mother confirmed that.
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January 16, 2023, 08:23:23 AM
What a greedy man Francis Ngannou is. He is a living proof that if a person had poor and hungry childhood, he will think only about money. I cant believe he has left UFC even after they offered him highest payment in UFC history. Francis Ngannou only excuse was - he does not like the contract. He feels like he is a slave. He is a slave, but other are blind and dream to get into UFC. I dont believe that it is all about contract. If contract really was such a nightmare, everyone would reveal that long time ago.
There is no logic in your words, you say that he is greedy for money, but he refused to increase the pay. There was no hanging as such, the matter is a little different there, the problem of long-term contracts of the UFC is that the fighter, after signing the contract, his fees remain unchanged throughout the duration of the contract.

The UFC did not want to give him a contract for two fights, and Nganu wants to realize his goals outside the UFC, but here too, everything is not so simple. He does not have any agreements for boxing, it is not clear how mutch he can be paid for this if this does happen. For the UFC, his departure is a loss, many of his records will remain unbroken for a long time, but this is his decision.

If he was offered big, Francis would have accepted. He is very vocal about what he wants to do, he wants to get paid big just like the biggest stars he know such as McGregor or Jones himself. There are several MMAs also up to make money just like the money that boxers earn every fight.

Francis bet to himself and set on his own. If he gets the chance for Fury vs Ngnannou, that would be it.
Dana could have given one more fight for Francis vs Jones but Dana was already upset and he would be more upset if Jones will be defeated by Francis.

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January 16, 2023, 08:00:29 AM
What a greedy man Francis Ngannou is. He is a living proof that if a person had poor and hungry childhood, he will think only about money. I cant believe he has left UFC even after they offered him highest payment in UFC history. Francis Ngannou only excuse was - he does not like the contract. He feels like he is a slave. He is a slave, but other are blind and dream to get into UFC. I dont believe that it is all about contract. If contract really was such a nightmare, everyone would reveal that long time ago.
There is no logic in your words, you say that he is greedy for money, but he refused to increase the pay. There was no hanging as such, the matter is a little different there, the problem of long-term contracts of the UFC is that the fighter, after signing the contract, his fees remain unchanged throughout the duration of the contract.

The UFC did not want to give him a contract for two fights, and Nganu wants to realize his goals outside the UFC, but here too, everything is not so simple. He does not have any agreements for boxing, it is not clear how mutch he can be paid for this if this does happen. For the UFC, his departure is a loss, many of his records will remain unbroken for a long time, but this is his decision.
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January 16, 2023, 07:20:43 AM
What a greedy man Francis Ngannou is. He is a living proof that if a person had poor and hungry childhood, he will think only about money. I cant believe he has left UFC even after they offered him highest payment in UFC history. Francis Ngannou only excuse was - he does not like the contract. He feels like he is a slave. If he is a slave, then other are blind and dream to get into UFC. I dont believe that it is all about contract. If contract really was such a nightmare, everyone would reveal that long time ago.
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January 16, 2023, 07:15:58 AM
UFC 283



Date: January 22, 2023
Main Card: SUN, JAN 22 / 5:00 AM EET
Prelims: SUN, JAN 22 / 3:00 AM EET
Early prelims: SUN, JAN 22 / 1:00 AM EET

Venue: Jeunesse Arena (Brazil)

Main card (ESPN+)
Light Heavyweight: Glover Teixeira vs. Jamahal Hill
Flyweight: Deiveson Figueiredo vs. Brandon Moreno
Welterweight: Gilbert Burns vs. Neil Magny            
Women's Flyweight: Jéssica Andrade vs. Lauren Murphy            
Light Heavyweight: Paul Craig vs. Johnny Walker

Preliminary card (ABC / ESPN / ESPN+)
Light Heavyweight: Maurício Rua vs. Ihor Potieria            
Middleweight: Gregory Rodrigues vs. Brunno Ferreira            
Lightweight: Thiago Moisés vs. Melquizael Costa            
Welterweight: Mounir Lazzez vs. Gabriel Bonfim

Early preliminary card (ESPN+ / UFC Fight Pass)
Heavyweight: Shamil Abdurakhimov vs. Jailton Almeida            
Lightweight: Terrance McKinney vs. Ismael Bonfim            
Welterweight: Warlley Alves vs. Nicolas Dalby            
Women's Featherweight: Josiane Nunes vs. Zarah Fairn Dos Santos            
Bantamweight: Luan Lacerda vs. Cody Stamann            
Bantamweight: Saimon Oliveiravs. Daniel Marcos

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UFC_283
legendary
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January 16, 2023, 05:40:51 AM
Sean Strickland showed how good he's even though he only have 3 days to prepare the fight against Imamov, but surely Imamov will get a good lesson after this fight.


Well, those takedowns of Nassourdine Imavov are just for dangerous strikers and Sean Strickland is an exception because he is both a striker and wrestler, so he surely knows what he is going to do with Nassourdine Imavov, I think Nassourdine Imavov is a different Dagestan wrestler, even though he is like that Nassourdine Imavov for me is not champion material,

Umar Nurmagomedov crazy knockout win, and as usual, those fast kicks to set it up, I was wrong in betting it to go to the ground and win via submission, and this is the 1st time Umar knocked someone and it was against an unknockable opponent Raoni Barcelo, so I think Umar Nurmagomedov can accent to be champion someday,


What a shocking performance from him because these guys are known to beat their opponents via submission and surprisingly he just knocked out his opponent in the first round not only then his opponent was not known to be an easy guy he hasn't been knockout like this in his career before. I guess it was just an unexpected turn of events against Raoni Barcelos because he wasn't aware of his opponent's huge power and caught him by surprise. That was just a random and amazing win for him, they are now really improving well because fans are bored to see them win every fight by submission and now they are changing their courses.

Looking forward to the next matches for Umar Nurmagomedov, for me, he may have decent boxing now, and even though it is not technical pretty much his kicks were fast enough to make his opponent have a hard time over it, and I think that his boxing is like Khabib's that overhand and has fast jab was his overhand punches even though it is not technical it doesn't really need that because it was so fast that Raoni Barcelos can not react to it, and with this kind of strikes and good reach with those kicks and a lethal wrestling that is like Khabib and Islam, Umar Nurmagomedov if he likes it can be a champion in the future,

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January 16, 2023, 03:47:51 AM
Umar Nurmagomedov crazy knockout win, and as usual, those fast kicks to set it up, I was wrong in betting it to go to the ground and win via submission, and this is the 1st time Umar knocked someone and it was against an unknockable opponent Raoni Barcelo, so I think Umar Nurmagomedov can accent to be champion someday,


What a shocking performance from him because these guys are known to beat their opponents via submission and surprisingly he just knocked out his opponent in the first round not only then his opponent was not known to be an easy guy he hasn't been knockout like this in his career before. I guess it was just an unexpected turn of events against Raoni Barcelos because he wasn't aware of his opponent's huge power and caught him by surprise. That was just a random and amazing win for him, they are now really improving well because fans are bored to see them win every fight by submission and now they are changing their courses.
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January 16, 2023, 03:04:41 AM
Sean Strickland showed how good he's even though he only have 3 days to prepare the fight against Imamov, but surely Imamov will get a good lesson after this fight.

Well the next event we will see a fight between Teixeira vs Hill, it's really crazy how Teixeira still active fighting despite he's already old. Hill is really fast and he have a power to knock out Teixeira, Teixeira need to be careful with spinning kick or other unpredictable attack from Hill that will make Teixeira fall sleep.

Edit:  Oh and it sucks that Ngannou left.  Ngannou vs Jones would've been the one.  :/
But I think Ciryl Gane replacing Ngannou is not that bad and whoever will win become the new heavyweight champion.
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January 15, 2023, 04:06:51 PM
Now that the UFC Fight Night: Strickland vs. Imavov is already settled here are the results of my picks

Sean Strickland VS Nassourdine Imavov ROUND 5 DECISION - LOST

Sean Strickland just takes down Nassourdine Imavov while Imavov is having a hardtime on takedowns and repeatedly failed to takedown Strickland, this means Nassourdine Imavov is not on the level of another Dagestan wrestler, I think that he only took down strikers but against Sean Strickland that is also a wrestler you can see the difference Sean Strickland did a tremendous job in stopping the takedowns and giving a takedown to Nassourdine Imavov aswell, for me it was a close match Nassourdine Imavov did really great to the upper ranked Strickland since both fighters didn't have preparation but it was really a great fight,

Dan Ige VS Damon Jackson ROUND 2 KO/TKO - WIN

A crazy left hook from Dan Ige knockout Damon Jackson, I thought that Jackson will go with the takedowns against Dan Ige it surely led to a fast finish punch, and just like  I have said Dan Ige sure has to knock power and even though Jackson taller, he only took a fraction to be down on the ground, or Damon Jackson doesn't have the durable chin to withstand that punch,

Umar Nurmagomedov VS Raoni Barcelos ROUND 1 KO/TKO - WIN

Umar Nurmagomedov crazy knockout win, and as usual, those fast kicks to set it up, I was wrong in betting it to go to the ground and win via submission, and this is the 1st time Umar knocked someone and it was against an unknockable opponent Raoni Barcelo, so I think Umar Nurmagomedov can accent to be champion someday,
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January 15, 2023, 03:10:15 PM

Sean Strickland

As much as I dislike Strickland's fighting style, I think he's going to take it via decision. Soriano fight is going to be a close one so I'm not that confident in that pick.
Sean Strickland's fighting style is the biggest fighting style in the UFC that I don't like or even hate, I always say that. The guy wins with this fighting style. Imavov matched Strickland's game from start to finish. Imavov should have gone after him more explosively, but as I said, he couldn't break Strickland's game.

Umar Nurmagomedov continues his progress, technically knocking out Barcelos before the first round ends. It was a really impressive ending when he knocked him down with a left hook with a knee up.
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January 15, 2023, 02:10:37 PM

Source https://mobile.twitter.com/arielhelwani/status/1614400996834414597



Ariel Helwani also mentioned that the information was released by mistake when an employee of the T-Mobile Arena displayed this very early without the announcement from uncle Dana hehehehe.



It was really T mobile's fault for giving up on the information about Jon Jone And Cyril Gane's fight and it was a sad day for fans of Francis Ngannoue that has been released by the UFC prior to not giving any conclusion about his contract and the future of UFC, so Dana White has decided to release Francis Ngnnoue out of the UFC, so that event that was leaked by T-Mobile announced later by Dana White after the fight UFC Fight Night: Strickland vs. Imavov,


It could be that Imavov didn't do his best. You can see his takedown attempt was the worse ever, who does that? I'm hoping he'll use his Dagestan wrestling to pin Strickland to the ground. It still lasted 5 rounds though.



It was really a bummer that Nassourdine Imavov lost the fight and the only bet that I have lost, well in anticipation Sean Strickland has seen all takedowns from Nassourdine Imavov Strickland also got a takedown of his own, and Nassourdine Imavov didn't capitalize in that I guess Nassourdine Imavov has a different wrestler that comes from Dagestan, but surely Sean Strickland always anticipate Nassourdine Imavov and have stopped in the reign on being undefeated, Sean Strickland has surely exposed Nassourdine Imavov and the 1st one to giving him his lost,

The fight between Strickland and Imavov showed that ranking is what matters. You dont get seventh place in top for nothing. As far as I see, Imavov just entered middleweight ranking, and he was thrown against seventh best fighter of that weight class. Expected outcome. As tokeweed say, first time fighting 5 rounds is all a new challenge. Not surprised that Strickland was better yesterday!

Sean Strickland has a great experience with Wrestlers so with that said he surely anticipated all takedown attempts of Nassourdine Imavov, and both fighters also has limited preparation for their opponent so that is another factor, but still, Sean Strickland was the only one that have put Rankings on his opponent, `
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January 15, 2023, 12:18:57 PM
The fight between Strickland and Imavov showed that ranking is what matters. You dont get seventh place in top for nothing. As far as I see, Imavov just entered middleweight ranking, and he was thrown against seventh best fighter of that weight class. Expected outcome. As tokeweed say, first time fighting 5 rounds is all a new challenge. Not surprised that Strickland was better yesterday!
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January 15, 2023, 11:27:58 AM
Ketlen Vieira, Punahele Soriano, and Damon Jackson unfortunately let me down for 16k. Vieira fight was close at least, and could've gone either way, but was probably the right decision. Soriano really struggled, and I should've expected as much considering how much he loads up without having the best of gas tanks. Damon Jackson really struggled against Ige though, and I expected more from him.

Strickland did what I expected, I think a lot of people underestimate his skill, and the decision was at 4.00 which is probably a reaction based on his last two losses, was definitely worth a shot on him. Unfortunately, I only do accumulators. I actually cashed out in the middle of the Vieira fight as I could see she was likely losing. I cashed out for a profit of 30 quid. Nothing to write home about.

Soriano is my pie shitter of the event.  I really thought it was gonna be easy for him and the other guy would be gassing out.  Turned out it was him.  Kopylov could actually be a good fighter with just a bad start in the UFC.  Let's see what's in store for him next...

I had Vieira winning R1 and R3.  I'm not really sure what fight the judges were watching.  Lol.  And as for Strickland va Imavov, the match being at 205 should've been a concern for Imavov.  It was also Imavov's first time to be in a 5 rounder.

Anyway moving on...

UFC 283:  Countdown
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jBrq61oNKA

Edit:  Oh and it sucks that Ngannou left.  Ngannou vs Jones would've been the one.  :/
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