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Quote from: Welsh on August 09, 2021, 03:52:49 PM

I think Stipe makes the most sense to me, but then again I'm probably bias, as I don't think Gane is ready for Ngannou. I don't know, I've been wrong multiple times about Gane, and he's won convincingly each time. So, I don't know logically to me he should get through Stipe first, since I'd probably make that Stipe VS Ngannou fight again, as that's been a lot of fun each time.

Even i would like to see Stipe Miocic getting the opportunity but i am not sure why he was left out of the title picture when the UFC made the interim belt, may be Stipe rejected the offer but i am not sure about that but anyone facing the champion should have gone through Stipe because he was the champion for a long time.

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Jose Aldo is back again with a win after changing his weight categories all the time, and he is calling out for T.J. Dillashaw as his next opponent.

Lads I'm going to go out on a limb yet again, however TJ wins that fight convincingly.

From what i have heard T.J. Dillashaw is badly hurt after the fight against Cory Sandhagen and he underwent knee surgery and he is hoping to get recovered in three month but i am not sure how he is going to recover from a knee surgery in three months and Aldo is a heavy kicker and if T.J rushes back without recovering Aldo can kick the shit out of that leg Grin

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I think Stipe makes the most sense to me, but then again I'm probably bias, as I don't think Gane is ready for Ngannou. I don't know, I've been wrong multiple times about Gane, and he's won convincingly each time. So, I don't know logically to me he should get through Stipe first, since I'd probably make that Stipe VS Ngannou fight again, as that's been a lot of fun each time.

Quote from: notblox1 on August 09, 2021, 03:47:52 PM

He probably have a gym at his own home and at workplace spending hours lifting those weights, and maybe doing some sparring with fighters who knows

I'd like to order one drug test for Dana please, nah I'm kidding obviously.

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Jose Aldo is back again with a win after changing his weight categories all the time, and he is calling out for T.J. Dillashaw as his next opponent.

Lads I'm going to go out on a limb yet again, however TJ wins that fight convincingly.

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Quote from: tokeweed on August 09, 2021, 09:07:18 AM

And here’s the post fight press conference. Check out the arms on Dana. Lolol.

He probably have a gym at his own home and at workplace spending hours lifting those weights, and maybe doing some sparring with fighters who knows

I think he was very happy with Gane winning this fight and he is hoping to make big numbers on superfight with Ngannou.
Jose Aldo is back again with a win after changing his weight categories all the time, and he is calling out for T.J. Dillashaw as his next opponent.

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With all respect to Cyril Gane, I dont see him as a heavyweight champion. At least not for a long time.
Fun fact - he has beaten Lewis, but Lewis is still higher than Gane in rating. Who will Gane face next? Is it 100% decided, that he will face Ngannou or he need to beat top2 Stepe Miocic?

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Quote from: Welsh on August 09, 2021, 08:07:12 AM

Like, I understand that Lewis doesn't throw much volume normally anyway, however what was that on the weekend? He threw like a couple of shots, and looked like he had ran a marathon. I'm not taking anything from Cyril Gane though, fully deserved, and now I've got to stand up, and actually take notice of him. I've always thought he might be a little over hyped, but he's proved me wrong yet again. I do still think Ngannou would make easy work of him in their current climate. I think he would do better to have a couple more fights to build his resume.

My opinion is a little bias on Cyril Gane, I know our last conversation was about the hype of Cyril Gane and you are doubting the hype people are giving to the Bon Gaming if I could remember it correctly, but that was Cyril Gane VS Alexander Volkov match, I am really satisfied with the Cyril Gane performance back then but apparently I am doubting Gane's power if he could really make a TKO/KO wins because that massive punch he gave to Volkov was just brush off by Volkov, and it feels like he never had any power at all, but the Derrick Lewis fight was extremely remarkable, I was really shocked that Cyril Gane can TKO Lewis, that he never did with Volkov, But respect to what you have said and let's see if what may happen with the Francis Ngannou fight.

Quote from: tokeweed on August 09, 2021, 09:07:18 AM

^ Lewis was outclassed. Cyril Gane is just too good. I wasn’t really that convinced at first cos he doesn’t have that much professional fights. But man, the guy is a talent.

And here’s the post fight press conference. Check out the arms on Dana. Lolol.

I like what have Dana White said over Cyril Gane, That He is a Big Powerful Badass HeavyWeight that moves like a middleweight and completely Shut down Derrick Lewis, and that word was on Dana's account, so preferably I really think that Cyril Gane is really ready to face, Francis Ngannou.

And I think he really deserves it, and he is really ready for a Francis Ngannou fight,

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^ Lewis was outclassed. Cyril Gane is just too good. I wasn’t really that convinced at first cos he doesn’t have that much professional fights. But man, the guy is a talent.

And here’s the post fight press conference. Check out the arms on Dana. Lolol.

UFC 265: Post Fight Conference
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJKk5IUGm6o

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Like, I understand that Lewis doesn't throw much volume normally anyway, however what was that on the weekend? He threw like a couple of shots, and looked like he had ran a marathon. I'm not taking anything from Cyril Gane though, fully deserved, and now I've got to stand up, and actually take notice of him. I've always thought he might be a little over hyped, but he's proved me wrong yet again. I do still think Ngannou would make easy work of him in their current climate. I think he would do better to have a couple more fights to build his resume.

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Quote from: TopTort777 on August 09, 2021, 02:51:33 AM

Frankly, I was wrong about Lewis and expected more from him. Or perhaps I was only waiting for that one right killer punch from black beast.
Now lets wait for Gane Ngannou fight. I wonder how long do we need wait for that. Strange that Jones did not start to bark? He could test himself with Gane, if he wants to be a hw champ.

There are many that anticipated for Lewis to deliver that one shot KO on Gane, but the skill level is just too high for Derrick Lewis, right now the more visible advantage of Cyril Gane was his speed, you can see that Cyril Gane might be running away from Lewis, but I think this is just a defense mechanism, and when Lewis is fainting, Gane might be thinking that Derrick Lewis is going for that 1 hit KO, Cyril Gane is just cautious but is thinking while executing something against Lewis, I was really glad for the result I never thought that Gane could TKO/KO the black beast, I am really doubting his power, but after seeing this fight I think he is really ready for a Francis Ngannou fight,

And Speaking of Jon Jones, if he would test himself with Gane, I can say to Jon Jones is in his dreams to beat Cyril Gane, in that Bon Gaming performance VS The Black Beast I think he is way ahead with Skills and technique.

Quote from: Bttzed03 on August 09, 2021, 05:37:54 AM

Even if he doesn't have the Ngannou power, he's still a heavyweight. An exhausted Lewis taking many punches, kicks, and knees from a fresher Gane would pretty much end in a submission or a TKO. Gane simply decided to rain punches on him to end the fight.

Well, now I can say that Cyril Gane really has that punching power that he needed, that very fast jab was keeping Lewis the distance and pressuring him in the corner, we can see that Lewis's eye was really hurt from Gane's jabs, and that good combination, of heavy punches, and elbow have really secure that win.

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Quote from: YuginKadoya on August 08, 2021, 11:48:28 AM

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I am saying that he may win via Decision or a submission, but I didn't expect a TKO/KO win over Derrick Lewis, I have said that comparing the fight with Alexander Volkov fight that Cyril Gane doesn't have power with his strikes,

Even if he doesn't have the Ngannou power, he's still a heavyweight. An exhausted Lewis taking many punches, kicks, and knees from a fresher Gane would pretty much end in a submission or a TKO. Gane simply decided to rain punches on him to end the fight.

Quote from: TheNineClub on August 09, 2021, 02:47:09 AM

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Lewis always seems like he's on his back foot, and like he hasn't come in to fight. I think it's just his style. But so far he was able to prevail (more or less) with that.

Yeah it's been his style to wait and let opponents come near him. It's like a bait. He knows he could end the fight with one punch but Gane knows that all too well.

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Frankly, I was wrong about Lewis and expected more from him. Or perhaps I was only waiting for that one right killer punch from black beast.
Now lets wait for Gane Ngannou fight. I wonder how long do we need wait for that. Strange that Jones did not start to bark? He could test himself with Gane, if he wants to be a hw champ.

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Quote from: boltz on August 08, 2021, 09:23:30 AM

It seems that Ciryl came to fight last night and for sure he did as Lewis was only on his back foot , guarding and changing stances. Even if I back up Lewis , a fighter like him should not get a main event like this where he barely trow 1 punch per round. This is now what people expected to see but I'm glad we saw Ciryl in a great shape , doing whatever he wanted in that octagon and punched Lewis from all direction ...this takes a lot of native skills besides hard work.

Lewis always seems like he's on his back foot, and like he hasn't come in to fight. I think it's just his style. But so far he was able to prevail (more or less) with that. But regarding throwing few punches, I mean, it's HW, things like that happen all the time. Sure, some are bangers like Travis Browne and Arlovski but some go down like Big Country Roy Nelson.

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Quote from: KennyXBTC on August 08, 2021, 08:54:39 PM

from what i see is that Gane leg kicks really messed up Derrick Lewis strategy . and his team not really giving a good advice for the upcoming rounds ( R2 and R3 - still passive defence without any 'breakthrough' ) and Derrick just tanking all the leg kicks and ended it the match for him .

Good win for Gane and 3X Payout , thanks to Stake promo

its what made his crippled inside the cage and eventually just knelt. his gas tank just ain't enough to last and he either can't chase Gane. there are times that Gane actually face Derrik, if Derrik just hit a single punch tables could turn. i was waiting for it to happen, just on big hit from derrik at least. unfortunately Gane can move faster.

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from what i see is that Gane leg kicks really messed up Derrick Lewis strategy . and his team not really giving a good advice for the upcoming rounds ( R2 and R3 - still passive defence without any 'breakthrough' ) and Derrick just tanking all the leg kicks and ended it the match for him .

Good win for Gane and 3X Payout , thanks to Stake promo

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Quote from: boltz on August 08, 2021, 09:23:30 AM

It seems that Ciryl came to fight last night and for sure he did as Lewis was only on his back foot , guarding and changing stances. Even if I back up Lewis , a fighter like him should not get a main event like this where he barely trow 1 punch per round. This is now what people expected to see but I'm glad we saw Ciryl in a great shape , doing whatever he wanted in that octagon and punched Lewis from all direction ...this takes a lot of native skills besides hard work.

My pick was Cyril Gane and I am saying this always in my recent post even when he is fighting Volkov, that I am Cyril Gane all the way, that will never change even with a Francis Ngannou fight, Well actually I am shocked not with Cyril Gane's winning over Lewis but with Gane's performance he really outdid my expectation on what he can do inside the ring, I am saying that he may win via Decision or a submission, but I didn't expect a TKO/KO win over Derrick Lewis, I have said that comparing the fight with Alexander Volkov fight that Cyril Gane doesn't have power with his strikes, but it is proven wrong on this fight he really outdid my expectation, so you guys better ride the Gane's Hype because I am seeing Cyril Gane will surely win with a Francis Ngannou match.

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^ He was def outclassed. Lewis threw just 37 significant strikes for the whole match. At R1 11, R2 10 and R3 36.

You guys can see the stats here: http://www.ufcstats.com/fight-details/bf732e22055e8634

But what did we really expect. The better fighter won.

Oh and this card is a total disaster for me. Most of my picke were wrong. Rofl.

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It seems that Ciryl came to fight last night and for sure he did as Lewis was only on his back foot , guarding and changing stances. Even if I back up Lewis , a fighter like him should not get a main event like this where he barely trow 1 punch per round. This is now what people expected to see but I'm glad we saw Ciryl in a great shape , doing whatever he wanted in that octagon and punched Lewis from all direction ...this takes a lot of native skills besides hard work.

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since no one posted the full results, here it is.

well, the results make sense in the end. Finally, an HW fight were the clearly better fighter one, and it wasn't a one-punch KO that ended it all. Sad for Lewis tho, he's a character, but he just doesn't have the chops for winning the title. Not yet anyway.

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Quote from: Saint-loup on August 08, 2021, 01:02:57 AM

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LOL TopTort777 You really think the Bon Gamin could become tired before Derrick Lewis? Cheesy

You're kidding us, aren't you? Did you compare the shape of Cyril Gane and the one of Derrick Lewis? One could run a marathon, the other hardly 5000m obviously...
I think the exact opposite actually, Gane will defend and control during the 2 first rounds and in the middle of the third round he will accelerate and attack Lewis.

As expected the Bon Gamin followed the more logical game plan available like a good schoolboy and easily finished an exhausted "fat beast" in the middle of the 3rd round. I really appreciated how he steadily remained cautious, fleeing like a coward several times, despite all the audience against him. Grin

Dan Miragliotta has been very professional and he didn't let the exhausted beast catch his breath after having drop his mouthguard during the final assault of Gane.

What a great performance for Cyril Gane he surely delivers a dominating performance and what I like about it was Cyril Gane's Job controlling Lewis from the distance, and pinpointing Derrick Lewis eye, hurting Derrick Lewis, perfect performance for the Bon Gaming, Delivering an Elbow and uppercut that really stun Lewis to backup, and I think Cyril Gane really has the power to hurt Lewis, even though he didn't show this in Volkov's fight I was really amazing in what I have witnessed, and Derrick Lewis is not really catching up I could really see a skill gap between Derrick Lewis and Cyril Gane, and that Running away, is part of Gane's plan, just like what the Style Bender was doing, That When in doubt he is surely Running away, I really think this is not an act of cowardness but using his speed over Lewis.

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Quote from: notblox1 on August 08, 2021, 04:44:08 AM

If I had any doubts before about Cyril Gane than I don't have them anymore and he now fully deserved to fight for heavyweight belt with Francis Ngannou.
It is not easy to defeat Lewis with such KO style but he did it and France have new interim champion!
Ngannou sent him a message: See you soon boy, and Dana White confirmed this is perfect script for Francis Ngannou vs Ciryl Gane.

It was a great game plan by Ciryl Gane and it is a perfect match up against Francis Ngannou as the former coach of Francis Ngannou is the present coach of Ciryl Gane and what kind of game plan he will be using against him as they will be knowing his weakness and how Ngannou will be countering them..

Surprising performance was from Jose Aldo as i had no idea what kind of performance to expect from him but he clearly won the fight against Pedro Munhoz and the leg kicks of Aldo was paying dividends later on in the fight.

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If I had any doubts before about Cyril Gane than I don't have them anymore and he now fully deserved to fight for heavyweight belt with Francis Ngannou.
It is not easy to defeat Lewis with such KO style but he did it and France have new interim champion!
Ngannou sent him a message: See you soon boy, and Dana White confirmed this is perfect script for Francis Ngannou vs Ciryl Gane.

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