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Quote from: JanpriX on May 23, 2020, 02:49:05 AM

UFC Fight Night: WOODLEY VS BURNS
All 11 Fights for UFC on May 30

MAIN CARD
Main Event - Welterweight: Tyron Woodley (19-4-1) vs Gilbert Burns (18-3-0)
Co-Main - Heavyweight: Blagoy Ivanov (18-3-0, 1NC) vs Augusto Sakai (14-1-1)
Welterweight: Kevin Holland (17-5-0) vs Daniel Rodriguez (10-1-0)
Lightweight: Roosevelt Roberts (9-1-0) vs Brok Weaver (14-4-0)
Women Strawweight: Mackenzie Dern (7-1-0) vs Hannah Cifers (10-4-0)

PRELIMINARY CARD
Women Flyweight: Katlyn Chookagian (13-3-0) vs Antonina Shevchenko (8-1-0)
Catchweight: Billy Quarantillo (13-2-0) vs Spike Carlyle (9-1-0)
Light Heavyweight: Jamahal Hill (7-0-0) vs Klidson Farias de Abreu (15-4-0)
Flyweight: Tim Elliott (15-10-1) vs Brandon Royval (10-4-0)
Bantamweight: Louis Smolka (16-6-0) vs Casey Kenney (13-2-1)
Featherweight: Chris Gutierrez (14-4-0, 1NC) vs Vince Morales (9-4-0)

I expect to see great main event Woodley vs Burns,
and Antonina Shevchenko in women flyweight can be interesting to see.

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Quote from: 7788bitcoin on May 23, 2020, 06:59:54 PM

Quote from: Bttzed03 on May 22, 2020, 11:38:56 PM

1. Jones will slow down too if he's going to add more weight. His ever reliable cardio would be affected too.

Jon Jones walks around as a natural heavyweight and he does not need to cut any weight and that will be an advantage rather than a disadvantage and it will not affect his cardio as he is not trying to put any extra weight.

It's different when you are just walking around and chillin' as a heavyweight than actually fighting. He's been fighting as LHW for years and any recent change in weight class would definitely affect how he fights in the octagon. At LHW, he can last for five rounds or even more and if he'll use the same pace as a HW in the octagon, that's going to affect his cardio. Not to mention the power of natural HWs have in their punches, it's going to wear him down if he gets hit.

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Quote from: ene1980 on May 23, 2020, 04:59:14 PM

Jon Jones is making his intentions clear on moving to the heavyweight division and Dana White is not ready to compensate the demands and it might be mainly due to the lack of live gates but eventually we will see that fight.

There is no problem at all. Let'es just wait everything go back to normal so that Dana can make his pockets full once again and invest on such future mega fight Cheesy

. What is more important for now is that we are assured that he will move up to HW soon for him to prove us that he is not only good on sh*tty talks but can be a man of his words. I'm really getting excited for this, I can't wait to see if Jon can cope with the new division.

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Quote from: NavI_027 on May 22, 2020, 10:19:22 PM

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Heavyweight fighters are known for one shot one skill power punches and it ends at that, if the fight goes the distance they will slow down a lot and majority of the fighters know just to strike and have zero ground skills and if a fighter who is technically stronger can pose danger if they can avoid the power punches and moreover Jones is a great wrestler who has even taken down an Olympian like Daniel Cormier.

But take note, we need to consider the adjustments he will do. Of course, Jon will become bigger thus becoming slower. We can't conclude that he can have the same speed and cardio when he finally enter the HW division lol.

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Quote from: NavI_027 on May 22, 2020, 10:19:22 PM

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I don't think that strategy won't work well. Yeah you can run and run inside the octagon and throw jabs but there's a point that both fighters will clinch and brawl. And if that happens, Jon would be in a big trouble. Remember, HW fighters are well known for "one shot, one kill" plays and not sustainability Cheesy

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Heavyweight fighters are known for one shot one skill power punches and it ends at that, if the fight goes the distance they will slow down a lot and majority of the fighters know just to strike and have zero ground skills and if a fighter who is technically stronger can pose danger if they can avoid the power punches and moreover Jones is a great wrestler who has even taken down an Olympian like Daniel Cormier.

Quote from: Bttzed03 on May 22, 2020, 11:38:56 PM

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I wouldn't say "dominating" especially with the recent fights. There are also good competitions waiting for him. I would want him to have a rematch with Reyes to put all doubts from their first fight to rest.

Even i would like to see a rematch with Reyes because it was a really close fight and i thought the judges will go with him.

Quote from: Bttzed03 on May 22, 2020, 11:38:56 PM

1. Jones will slow down too if he's going to add more weight. His ever reliable cardio would be affected too.

Jon Jones walks around as a natural heavyweight and he does not need to cut any weight and that will be an advantage rather than a disadvantage and it will not affect his cardio as he is not trying to put any extra weight.

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on May 23, 2020, 12:43:07 AM

It appears uncle Dana does want this fight. It also appears that Jon Jones will not fight anyone on light heavyweight to defend the championship after Domimick Reyes.

Jon Jones is making his intentions clear on moving to the heavyweight division and Dana White is not ready to compensate the demands and it might be mainly due to the lack of live gates but eventually we will see that fight.

In one of his recent tweets he mentioned he will be facing Jan Blachowicz since Dana White is not willing to pay for a mega showdown with Francis Ngannou.

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UFC Fight Night: WOODLEY VS BURNS
All 11 Fights for UFC on May 30

MAIN CARD
Main Event - Welterweight: Tyron Woodley (19-4-1) vs Gilbert Burns (18-3-0)
Co-Main - Heavyweight: Blagoy Ivanov (18-3-0, 1NC) vs Augusto Sakai (14-1-1)
Welterweight: Kevin Holland (17-5-0) vs Daniel Rodriguez (10-1-0)
Lightweight: Roosevelt Roberts (9-1-0) vs Brok Weaver (14-4-0)
Women Strawweight: Mackenzie Dern (7-1-0) vs Hannah Cifers (10-4-0)

PRELIMINARY CARD
Women Flyweight: Katlyn Chookagian (13-3-0) vs Antonina Shevchenko (8-1-0)
Catchweight: Billy Quarantillo (13-2-0) vs Spike Carlyle (9-1-0)
Light Heavyweight: Jamahal Hill (7-0-0) vs Klidson Farias de Abreu (15-4-0)
Flyweight: Tim Elliott (15-10-1) vs Brandon Royval (10-4-0)
Bantamweight: Louis Smolka (16-6-0) vs Casey Kenney (13-2-1)
Featherweight: Chris Gutierrez (14-4-0, 1NC) vs Vince Morales (9-4-0)

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It appears uncle Dana does want this fight. It also appears that Jon Jones will not fight anyone on light heavyweight to defend the championship after Domimick Reyes.

While things were heating up between Jones and Ngannou, the UFC light heavyweight champion took to his Twitter account to reveal that the UFC won’t match his asking price.

Source https://www.mmanews.com/jon-jones-says-ufc-wont-meet-asking-price-for-francis-ngannou-bout/

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Quote from: Saint-loup on May 22, 2020, 11:32:56 AM

Who can imagine Jon Jones fighting in the Heavy Weight category? Even for a Light Heavy Weight fighter he looks slim. He's tall but skinny, so I really think he would be a bad HW fighter.

The guy comes from a family of athletes, he could always bulk up. I remember seeing a picture of him when he was first suspended, he looked huge at the time.

Quote from: 7788bitcoin on May 22, 2020, 04:15:53 PM

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Jon Jones is dominating all the fighters in Light Heavy Weight division and he proved everything and there is not much competition in the division

I wouldn't say "dominating" especially with the recent fights. There are also good competitions waiting for him. I would want him to have a rematch with Reyes to put all doubts from their first fight to rest.

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the light heavyweight division had some heavy knockout punchers and the reason for Jon Jones to move up is because he knows these fighters are really slow and if he could maintain the distance and with the speed advantage he can win.

I don't think that strategy won't work well. Yeah you can run and run inside the octagon and throw jabs but there's a point that both fighters will clinch and brawl. And if that happens, Jon would be in a big trouble. Remember, HW fighters are well known for "one shot, one kill" plays and not sustainability Cheesy

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1. Jones will slow down too if he's going to add more weight. His ever reliable cardio would be affected too.
2. I think we are forgetting is a wrestler and clinching is nothing new to him. In fact, it could be advantageous for him if they go to a clinch. He's a crafty/dirty fighter after all Grin

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Quote from: BChydro on May 22, 2020, 06:07:15 PM

I want to see the rubber match between Daniel Cormier and Stipe Miocic

Oh yeah! I like the series of events happening in there. Miocic vs Cormier 3 is good and if DC win then Ngannou should be the next in line. Hahaha I still remember the slight fear on DC's face the last time he witnessed how Predator punished Rozenstruik and I want to see the same emotion again Grin

. I also wonder if his wrestling skills would be effective for that massive guy.

Quote from: 7788bitcoin on May 22, 2020, 06:11:23 PM

the light heavyweight division had some heavy knockout punchers and the reason for Jon Jones to move up is because he knows these fighters are really slow and if he could maintain the distance and with the speed advantage he can win.

I don't think that strategy won't work well. Yeah you can run and run inside the octagon and throw jabs but there's a point that both fighters will clinch and brawl. And if that happens, Jon would be in a big trouble. Remember, HW fighters are well known for "one shot, one kill" plays and not sustainability Cheesy

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Quote from: Saint-loup on May 22, 2020, 04:57:37 PM

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In Heavyweight division strikes are way more violent and heavy, the HW division goes up to 265 lb, he wouldn't be able to apply the same game plan there. Moreover I'm not sure he has an enough good chin to compete in this category.

The reason Jon Jones was hesitant to move up was the huge weight difference but if i am not wrong Jon Jones walk around 220 to 230 pounds and he is cutting weight down to 205 pounds and so is the case with every other fighter in any competitive sport, the light heavyweight division had some heavy knockout punchers and the reason for Jon Jones to move up is because he knows these fighters are really slow and if he could maintain the distance and with the speed advantage he can win.

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Quote from: tokeweed on May 22, 2020, 11:15:27 AM

Dana White should just drop Cormier. Nobody wants to see him fight anymore. IMHO.

I want to see the rubber match between Daniel Cormier and Stipe Miocic because it will give a conclusive answer for the best heavyweight of this generation and it is not just a title fight but for the bragging rights for the best heavyweight fighter of the generation and so is the reason DC is patiently waiting for the fight even though he planned on retiring earlier.

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Quote from: 7788bitcoin on May 22, 2020, 04:15:53 PM

Quote from: Saint-loup on May 22, 2020, 11:32:56 AM

Who can imagine Jon Jones fighting in the Heavy Weight category? Even for a Light Heavy Weight fighter he looks slim. He's tall but skinny, so I really think he would be a bad HW fighter.

Jon Jones is dominating all the fighters in Light Heavy Weight division and he proved everything and there is not much competition in the division and Jones is teasing about a move to Heavy Weight division for a very long time and if he is able to move up and compete against much bigger fighters and take the belt then his legacy will be written in stone as the greatest of all time.

In Heavyweight division strikes are way more violent and heavy, the HW division goes up to 265 lb, he wouldn't be able to apply the same game plan there. Moreover I'm not sure he has an enough good chin to compete in this category.

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Quote from: Saint-loup on May 22, 2020, 11:32:56 AM

Who can imagine Jon Jones fighting in the Heavy Weight category? Even for a Light Heavy Weight fighter he looks slim. He's tall but skinny, so I really think he would be a bad HW fighter.

Jon Jones is dominating all the fighters in Light Heavy Weight division and he proved everything and there is not much competition in the division and Jones is teasing about a move to Heavy Weight division for a very long time and if he is able to move up and compete against much bigger fighters and take the belt then his legacy will be written in stone as the greatest of all time.

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on May 21, 2020, 09:51:11 PM

Jonny Bones will not stop hehehe.

I predict that Thiago Santos, Dominick Reyes and Israel desanya will certainly stop talking loudly about him if he wins versus the big fellow.

There is no doubt Jon Jones will move up to Heavyweight before retiring and i want to see him fight against the champion or the interim championship against Francis Ngannou rather than just moving up, if he wants to face anyone then Daniel Cormier at Heavyweight is another fight everyone wants to watch.

Quote from: tokeweed on May 22, 2020, 11:15:27 AM

Going for Miocic for the HW title could work too.
Dana White should just drop Cormier. Nobody wants to see him fight anymore. IMHO.

I want Jon Jones to fight the champion and Stipe Miocic and Jones had their spat in the past and it will be a huge fight and Francis Ngannou is waiting in the mix for a long time.

In my opinion, Jones have to rematch Dominick Reyes and if time permits Thiago Santos and by that the Heavyweight division will have some clarity and then move on to fight the champion.

Quote from: NavI_027 on May 22, 2020, 01:12:53 AM

He has a good point tho. If Jon is really not scared to brawl those people who get beef with then he only need to do is say 'Yes!' and Dana will do the rest. As simple as that.

The truth is everyone wants to see Jon Jones loose the fight and the only option is to have a flush lucky punch from a heavy puncher, skill wise he is far superior than everyone else.

I want to see Francis Ngannou getting another title opportunity and a fight against Jon Jones is not an easy task as Jones clearly knows how to avoid that heavy punch for the first two rounds and then control the fight till the end.

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Quote from: JanpriX on May 22, 2020, 06:57:49 AM

Quote from: tokeweed on May 22, 2020, 05:47:25 AM

^ ^ You know... It won't be a bad idea to have Jones vs Ngannou and Adesanya vs Costa in one event. And hoping that Jones and Adesanya win their bouts then fight each other next. Oooooo.

That's gonna be yuuuge.

Edit: YUUUUGE.

Really like that YUUUUGE comment. Grin

Well, even though the possibility of Jones vs Ngannou continues to excite the fans around the globe, it appears that UFC doesn't have the interest to make it happen. Ngannou took out his frustration in his Twitter post stating below.

Code: (TWEET)

https://twitter.com/francis_ngannou/status/1263637604823478272

Who can imagine Jon Jones fighting in the Heavy Weight category? Even for a Light Heavy Weight fighter he looks slim. He's tall but skinny, so I really think he would be a bad HW fighter.

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Quote from: JanpriX on May 22, 2020, 06:57:49 AM

Quote from: tokeweed on May 22, 2020, 05:47:25 AM

^ ^ You know... It won't be a bad idea to have Jones vs Ngannou and Adesanya vs Costa in one event. And hoping that Jones and Adesanya win their bouts then fight each other next. Oooooo.

That's gonna be yuuuge.

Edit: YUUUUGE.

Really like that YUUUUGE comment. Grin

Well, even though the possibility of Jones vs Ngannou continues to excite the fans around the globe, it appears that UFC doesn't have the interest to make it happen. Ngannou took out his frustration in his Twitter post stating below.

Code: (TWEET)

https://twitter.com/francis_ngannou/status/1263637604823478272

^ Yup. He's in Limbo and very frustrated... And bbc's right. The only way Jones gets back on track is to move up and fight the beast that is Ngannou, esp. after two poor matches and his recent DUI. Going for Miocic for the HW title could work too.

Dana White should just drop Cormier. Nobody wants to see him fight anymore. IMHO.

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Quote from: tokeweed on May 22, 2020, 05:47:25 AM

^ ^ You know... It won't be a bad idea to have Jones vs Ngannou and Adesanya vs Costa in one event. And hoping that Jones and Adesanya win their bouts then fight each other next. Oooooo.

That's gonna be yuuuge.

Edit: YUUUUGE.

Really like that YUUUUGE comment. Grin

Well, even though the possibility of Jones vs Ngannou continues to excite the fans around the globe, it appears that UFC doesn't have the interest to make it happen. Ngannou took out his frustration in his Twitter post stating below.

Code: (TWEET)

https://twitter.com/francis_ngannou/status/1263637604823478272

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^ ^ You know... It won't be a bad idea to have Jones vs Ngannou and Adesanya vs Costa in one event. And hoping that Jones and Adesanya win their bouts then fight each other next. Oooooo.

That's gonna be yuuuge.

Edit: YUUUUGE.

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Adesanya instead of the Internet talking should stop running from Paulo Costa. Costa's USADA suspension has ended long time ago.

Instead of doing a marathon with few kicks and punches in fight against Romero, Adesanya could have proved what he said he would do with Costa (“You know who’s next,” Adesanya said after the win. “I got this overly-inflated balloon animal. I have a heavy Ricky Martin wannabe next. ‘Borrachinha’ (Paulo Costa). This is my octagon.” I want to rearrange his face).

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on May 21, 2020, 09:51:11 PM

I predict that Thiago Santos, Dominick Reyes and Israel desanya will certainly stop talking loudly about him if he wins versus the big fellow.

Yeah! That's the only way for him to shut their mouth lol. But the question is if Bones will fight Ngannou for real Roll Eyes

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Take a look on Adesanya's comment via instagram.

He has a good point tho. If Jon is really not scared to brawl those people who get beef with then he only need to do is say 'Yes!' and Dana will do the rest. As simple as that.

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